
I just got off a conference call with Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Jay Rockefeller (D-WV). They are confident -- very confident -- that health care reform will include a public option.
"The health care bill that is signed into law by the President will have a good, strong, robust public option," Schumer said.
How that will happen remains an open question. But the Senators assured reporters on the call that we're all going to get a taste of their passion and persuasiveness on this issue at the ongoing Senate Finance Committee hearings on Friday.
"I think it's a great idea," Rockefeller said of the public option. "Chuck Schumer thinks it's a great idea. And we're going to be all over it tomorrow."
Schumer said there will be a "full-blown debate" and that "even though the public option might be the underdog in the Senate Finance Committee, don't count it out."
"Tomorrow is the opening day in our big fight," he said.
Reporters tried to press on how, exactly, a public option would make its way out of the Senate Finance Committee, let alone make it to the President's desk. Will a public option amendment be tacked onto the Baucus bill? Will it be added on the Senate floor? How many votes do the Democrats have on a public health insurance option? Will they try to pass it through a 51-Senator reconciliation vote?
Rockefeller responded to TPM's question by saying "I think we have a good shot of getting it out of the Finance Committee."
He continued: "Don't rule it out. Don't fall victim to this feeling that it's not going to happen."
Schumer said that "a large majority of Democrats are for a public option" -- but that the ratio is higher in the House than the Senate, and higher in the Senate than in the Senate Finance Committee.
"I think we have a real good chance on the Senate floor," he said.
As for timelines: Rockefeller said the bill won't make it out of committee this week, but was hesitant to say anything more. Part of the problem, he said, is that Republicans have been "slow-walking this entire process" while offering "no useful legislating."
So get ready. Because at least two Senators are promising some fireworks on the public option Friday.
theone718
September 24, 2009 7:37 PM
Oh yea. I love the smell of change in the afternoon. Remember their names folks. These Senators are the ones FIGHTING FOR YOU and they are the ones you should support until the end
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neesy08
September 24, 2009 8:05 PM
God Bless you two!!! Get this done in Teddy's memory!!!
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LarsThorwald
September 24, 2009 8:43 PM
Rockefeller is fast becoming a favorite again.
I never thought I would live to say this: I am looking forward to listening to the mark-up live on C-Span.
Nerd out.
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Michael A
September 25, 2009 5:38 AM in reply to LarsThorwald
He's turning me around as well. I am still pissed about what happened with iraq and the nie though. He should have stood up and didn't and his intelligence committee findings were definitely weak at best.
However, on this healthcare issue, and some other issues that I cannot recall off hand right now, in the last couple of months he seems to have rediscovered his balls. Go Rock!
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JohnMcCSF
September 24, 2009 8:50 PM
Saw Rockefeller on Olbermann just now. Fineman followed and opined that while Rockefeller might be a bit optimistic, the public option was gaining momentum and would be a real live issue for the conference.
Fineman seemed to think that no bill with a public option could get 60 votes for cloture and that is probably true but that said, how can they stop Senator Rockefeller or Shumer from offering a public option amendment once the bill is up for Floor consideration?????
The Republicans are looking increasingly desperate.
All of this leaves me feeling pretty good...
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lousgirl84
September 25, 2009 9:35 AM in reply to JohnMcCSF
I dont much listen to anything Fineman has to say. If you notice, he never takes a stand. He always straddles the middle - a real wus IMO>
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JohnMcCSF
September 24, 2009 9:00 PM
FWIW
CBS/NyT
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synchronicity
September 24, 2009 9:12 PM
Is is just me or are these the guys with the cahones. Why is Reid still Majority leader? Why is Baucus still head of the finance committee? I hope that once they finish this work they revisit both of these positions
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AnswerFrog
September 24, 2009 9:17 PM
Bravo, gentlemen. The key is not to succumb to the pessimists and chickenlittles. Keep fighting.
The public option's benefits are compelling. Namely, it saves at least $150. That's $1000 per tax payer over a decade. Plus, it will likely save us more in overall costs, like health care premiums, since it will offer some needed competition to health care monopolies.
I think there is growing momentum.
The rightwing nuts can bang pots and pans, but they are clearly NOT winning the debate.
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AnswerFrog
September 24, 2009 9:19 PM in reply to AnswerFrog
= $150 Billion
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Indie Pro
September 25, 2009 9:34 AM in reply to AnswerFrog
hear, hear!
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Walter Mitty
September 24, 2009 9:31 PM
They're fighting for this now because they're going to fight the financial regulation reforms tooth and nail. Even if it ultimately fails because of the ConservaDems (which they probably know it will), they hope folks will see they put up the good fight. It's theater.
Just watch.
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jcd
September 25, 2009 1:21 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
If you're a progressive, there's only one thing to do now: Fight for the public option. Don't sit on your butt making pointless pessimistic predictions. Call your congressperson, help organize a march, contribute a few bucks to the America Can't Wait campaign. Make the future happen!
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cmpnwtr
September 24, 2009 9:32 PM
Schumer has been consistently firm and optimistic in the last two months. He should be majority leader. I like that kind of talk. Enough with the equivocation. Start kicking some ass and taking names of anyone who thinks they might filibuster.
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jcd
September 25, 2009 1:26 AM in reply to cmpnwtr
Exactly right. Reid has the soul of a backbencher--Schumer otoh was born to be ML. He's like Tom Delay with a conscience.
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xargaw
September 25, 2009 12:12 AM
These two guys are heros today. Let's hope they are able to keep up the fight. We have been disappointed by the DEMs so many times, it is really hard to maintain hope.
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acf_ma
September 25, 2009 12:26 AM
I'm not convinced that all the pessimists and chicken littles are expressing their true feelings about getting a bill with a public option, or are just trying to create a reality in which no plan with a public option can pass. In other words if they keep saying that a public plan is dead, or cannot pass, then that will become thee reality. It's part of the fight against reform.
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USgreentech
September 25, 2009 4:01 AM
I'm glad that it would pass.
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USgreentech
September 25, 2009 4:02 AM
Bill or Hilary Clinton has not done anything to help pass the legislation.
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Michael A
September 25, 2009 5:41 AM in reply to USgreentech
Well, I hate to defend the clintons, however, I must. Bill has been making speeches to the grass roots promoting healthcare reform. Hillary is sos, so she obviously has incredibly important foreign policy issues she is working on.
I actually think they are handling it appropriately and doing what obama wants them to do. He doesn't want the debate to circle around 94 and hillary care.
Damn. I hated making this post.
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impik
September 25, 2009 4:50 AM
New NYT poll: Obama's approval at 56%. And 65% in favr of PO ope to all. There will be PO in the bill. I'm sure about it.
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willia451
September 25, 2009 5:56 AM
Blue Dog opposition to the PO is crumbling in the House (even they are seeing the cost savings associated with the plan and how support for the PO has risen dramatically in their districts and nationally). NOT having a robust PO was not even in their top 4 priorities they listed yesterday. What WAS in there was mostly tied to keeping spending in check or moving faster than the Senate is moving on the Bills.
Pelosi has stated a robust PO WILL be in the House Bill, and a trigger is a simple excuse to do nothing.
The Progressive Caucus in the House is standing firm in NOT supporting reform, WITHOUT a robust PO.
Senate Progressives are beginning to get the word out about the PO. And press dem members to support any Senate Bill, whatever finally winds up in it, at least to the point of voting for cloture.
We have 60 dem Senators again.
So, bottom line, its looking better. However, I still believe the Senate will eventually have to pass something through reconciliation. That chamber is just too corrupt (even more so than the House) for me to believe otherwise. At least right now.
But still, the environment that would allow a robust PO to gain support and eventually be part of the legislation is MUCH better than it was; even a couple of weeks ago.
Good Job Progressives!!!
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JEP07
September 25, 2009 9:00 AM in reply to willia451
"That chamber is just too corrupt (even more so than the House) for me to believe otherwise."
At least we get to watch them sell their souls very publicly this time around. Any one of them who grovels at the altar of Big Insurance, when we all know their constituents possess a majority opinion to the contrary, grovels at their own detriment.
Progressives need to start putting on a full-court press.
Maybe it is time to challenge all our religious leaders to step up and voice their opinions about the humanitarian crisis underlying the whole issue, and how so much suffering is compounded by the insurance industry's abject greed.
Seriously, it is time for everyone who has the power of the pulpit to use it for the humanitarian purposes it should represent. Denying primary healthcare to our most vulnerable citizens only contributes to epidemics and enlarges the welfare rolls.
It is time for progressive preachers, monks, shamans, imams and ministers, of every faith and discipline, to raise their voices to their congregations, and urge them to act.
For the good of mankind and the well-being of their own mortal souls.
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willia451
September 25, 2009 6:30 AM
This just in from the AP:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9AU8FDO0
Looks like the PO amendment vote in the Finance Committee has been put off until next week. No word yet on why.
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dragnet
September 25, 2009 9:31 AM
Nice to hear, but we'll see what happens. And I still haven't forgotten that Rockefeller facilitated much of Bush's lawlessness with his illegal wiretapping.
But I really hope they can get the public option done, and the way they're talking about it they are laying themselves on the line.
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Powkat
September 25, 2009 12:57 PM in reply to dragnet
a bit of defense - Rockefeller wrote a letter by hand objecting to torture, because he couldn't tell anyone about the classified briefing. Not much, I agree, but he's the only one who did that much.
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Overreach THIS!
September 25, 2009 9:40 AM
I think the bad tide may really be turning.
Republicans are getting way too much media coverage on this issue for a party that has no ideas, no principles, only serves to shill for homicidal insurance fiends, and has the most inarticulate and idiotic adherents. Yelling isn't everything.
I'm serious. I think Americans have listened. Maybe thought these guys had something to day, but have now given them every chance. And Republicans have come up very, very short.
If anything, Republicans have strongly helped educate voters as to the point that they absolutely have nothing to offer. Cantor and DeMint were asked what they'd propose; they bloviated with astonishing vapidness. After months of supposedly informing themselves on this. If they have nothing to say, why are they so shrill? If not acting merely for monied interests?
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theWalrus
September 25, 2009 11:21 AM
As I watch today's hearing I can't help but think of Baucus as Milton Waddams from Office Space. Someone please tell Baucus the public option is right there, next to his stapler. I will be pleasantly surprised if it is included in the final bill.
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