beach front property in Arizona going for cut-rate prices as well, I hear

The Baucus bill is a joke

No public option
Lower subsidies for the poor
Protections for the insurance industry
No employer mandate
No taxpayer funding for abortion services
Double, extra restrictions on illegal’s
Unfair changes to Medicaid
No real incentives to curb costs

Ugh, 'moderate Dems' must be dog whistle for 'DINO.' If Joe Lieberman supports it, then you can bet the farm it's a bad idea.

I wonder why anyone is surprised. Except for a half dozen or so representatives and senators, the offices on the Hill are just satellites of various lobbying firms. I said during the election campaign that we were witnessing the end of the Republican party. And, whad'dya know, all that's left is a loose collection of dimwits, liars, hypocrites, carnival barkers, used car salesment, and war criminals and profiteers. (By the way, over the years I've voted for probably as many Republicans as Democrats.) Here's what I'm saying now: We're in the final decades of anything resembling either a republic or a democracy. "W" did so much damage that it is unlikely anyone can repair it. "America" is now little more than an enormous corporation. Stop fighting. It's useless. Enjoy the final days.

America: Too Dumb to Survive

If Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson are for it, that tells you all you need to know.

Apart from heading off a filibuster, I don't understand the need for bi-partisanship. What will Obama gain if one or two Republicans vote with him on this? The Republican attack machine won't be any less vicious.

Health care reform 'mandate' tax burden on the middle class = Obamafail.

I seriously hope this is not how the bill ends up, but if a $700 a month bill gets handed to middle class workers say goodbye to said middle class and hello to your fully incorporated corporation of a society.

Wouldn't that just be SO perfect democracy???

This is pretty predictable. Lying Lieb & Snowe & Co. know that as harshly is the Wellpoint/Baucus Plan is getting tarred that it's about as far to the right as they can get out of committee. Once out of committee, they (and their friends like Bayh who are laying low in the weeds for fear of too much attention) then can attack it with amendments on the floor to pull it further to the right while screaming loud enough to try to prevent the Progressives from pulling it towards the HELP Bill. Then, once they have something far closer to the Baucuse Bill (and likely even more watered down to help Big Health) passed through the Senate, they'll join hands with as many Senate ConservaDems as they can round up to refuse to vote for it if the Conference version drifts towards the House's Tri-Com Bill, while at the same time the Blue Dogs in the House will latch onto the Senate Bill as the version they can support.

We all know where this is headed.

To get an idea of how Big Health and the Wealthy are being protected:

http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/16/voodoo-cost-savings

I just wrote Sen. McCaskill office to tell her of my displeasure. I am from Missouri and everyone I know wants a public option. I told her I will do everything in my power to get her primaried and will never vote for her again if she passes this. If this does pass, I don't think the majority of Americans will stand for a 700 dollar a month bill. Our society is very similar to a Brave New World, but when people start feeling pain that's when people will rise up I believe.

Ugh!

the commenters here are correct that mccaskill only looks good when compared to previous republicans from her state like bond and talent.

however, she is just as worthless.

the game is rigged.

there are no longer any meaningful choices left to the american voter as we are continuously lied to and manipulated by our corporate masters and wealthy elite.

america no longer belongs to americans.

Now we have to follow these 4 turds like we did Baucus, Grassley, Conrad, and Enzi? ARRRGGGGHHHHH! Please shoot me.

Even the kids in Maryland University knows that this is a crappy bill.

Wow, a bill that Snowe, Lieberman, McCaskill, & Nelson support?

It must suck.

we expected that, didn't we? Barring some hard bargaining, they won't change their minds.

In other UNEXPECTED NEWS:
BILL O'REILLY SUPPORTS THE PUBLIC OPTION-NO JOKE
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/17/oreilly-public-option/
DID HE UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID TODAY?

I'm sorry, I didn't see any MODERATE Democrats mentioned. LIEberman isn't a Democrat, and the rest are CONSERVATIVE Democrats.