On a conference call with reporters moments ago, Senate Finance Committee chairman Max Baucus said that the public option is still alive, adding, in a familiar refrain, that the question for Democrats now is what kind of public option can get 60 votes.
The goal, Baucus said, was to include something in the bill that keeps premiums down and keeps insurance companies honest. "We just need to find ways to help reach that goal, in addition to the provisions in the bill," Baucus said.
Baucus cited several permutations of public option proposals under discussion, including what he described as "Medicare light [the robust public option], even playing field [proposed by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), there's co-ops--that's private, not public--there's opt in, opt out," Baucus said.
"It's alive," Baucus said. "We're trying to see what makes the most sense."
The admission is a fairly candid one for Baucus, who typically demurs at the mention of the public option, and pivots to the idea that the priority for Democrats ought to be a bill that can get 60 votes.
And he did ultimately hit that point, casting doubt on the idea that a health care bill that includes a public option that pays hospitals and doctors at Medicare-like rates, could overcome a filibuster. "I don't know if there's 60 votes for the more pure kind of public option, maybe for the less pure kinds," Baucus said.
But he declined to elaborate on just which compromises might succeed. "It's just It's too early to tell. We met, our group...last, I guess it was Thursday. We're meeting again today....There are a lot of meetings going on, to try to determine the answer to that question," Baucus said. "Maybe none, maybe one of them."

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Overreach THIS!
October 19, 2009 2:57 PM
In this photo, he looks like a refugee from a 1960s sci-fi show.
Or is that off-topic?
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Schmed- ley
October 19, 2009 3:02 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Not at all! That's exactly what I was moved to comment on. I can only imagine the kind of cars that expression has moved off the lot!
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Overreach THIS!
October 19, 2009 4:26 PM in reply to Schmed- ley
Oh, GOD, that is rich! Thanks!!
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Tanjaoui
October 20, 2009 6:14 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
The look says: 'Public option? Baby have I got a public option for you!' (heh-heh...catastrophic policy with a $10,000 deductible at the low low price of $700/month)
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Schmed- ley
October 20, 2009 10:37 AM in reply to Tanjaoui
Right on the money!
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SkippyFlipjack
October 19, 2009 3:18 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
In that regard he has company -- the head of the Chamber of Commerce, as seen in another TPM story today
http://bit.ly/3kCviq
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Overreach THIS!
October 19, 2009 4:29 PM in reply to SkippyFlipjack
Ah, yes! The CHAMBER! How about that for some SMOOTHIES!!
Ha-hah! You betcha!!
-- OT
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Indie Pro
October 19, 2009 3:19 PM
"I don't know if there's 60 votes for the more pure kind of public option, maybe for the less pure kinds,"
So which Democrats are joining the republicans for a bi-partisan filibuster?
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
October 19, 2009 3:43 PM in reply to Indie Pro
Damn if I didn't log on to make that same point. We now know a robust option has 52 votes. That's all it needs, unless one of the remaining eight want to join with the Republicans in opposing cloture.
. . . or, God forbid, unless Robert Byrd doesn't make it to the floor the day of the cloture vote.
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Andreams
October 19, 2009 3:31 PM
If there are federal penalties, there had better be federal insurance. If I can't opt out of a penalty, why should my state be able to opt out of affordable coverage?
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Moose49
October 19, 2009 3:41 PM
In other news, Max Baucus has a brain . . . we're just not sure whether it's in his head or up his ass.
There shouldn't have to be 60 votes because every member of the Caucus should be required to vote for filibuster on penalty of losing their chairmanships and the privileges of being members of the majority. All they should need is 51 votes (or 50 plus Biden).
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Moose49
October 19, 2009 3:48 PM in reply to Moose49
CHANGE THE ABOVE TO "vote for cloture"
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Tanjaoui
October 19, 2009 4:51 PM in reply to Moose49
And I would add: No strong public option? No cloture.
Opt out (default in) is the only possible bargaining chip. It should be like Medicare.
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rbeats
October 19, 2009 3:56 PM
Hey did you read about the new shenanigans some of these right wing nut job Senators are trying to inject into the bill?
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willia451
October 19, 2009 4:40 PM
This guy is living in fantasy land. Healthcare reform cannot pass Congress without a strong PO. Something along the lines of the Rockefeller or Schumer amendments that were defeated (by Democrats) in the Finance Committee markup.
Progressives WILL kill the bill if its not included.
Check out Darcy Burner on Top Line:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/10/top-line-would-liberals-sink-health-care-reform.html
That about says it all.
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amabo666
October 19, 2009 5:50 PM
I'm glad I am retired and getting my social security and free medical (relatively).
Those of you in your 30's - 50's will be taxed to death (in one way or another), there will be no social security, medical will be costly and after a certain age virtually non existent due to the magic PO.
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MasonMcD
October 19, 2009 9:16 PM in reply to amabo666
What makes you think Medicare and Social Security are safe, if dems can't be bothered to remain united for something most of the country wants?
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theone718
October 19, 2009 5:51 PM
I could go along with the Schumer PO. As long as we HAVE a PO it is something we can build on. I would also go along with an opt out.
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