Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) -- the man best known for saying that the Republican health care plan is for Americans who get to "die quickly," and for calling former Vice President Dick Cheney a vampire with blood dripping from his teeth -- may have gone a bit too far in one of his latest rhetorical excesses, calling lobbyist Linda Robertson, who used to advise Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, a "K Street whore."
The comments were made a month ago, when Grayson appeared on the radio show of right-wing talker Alex Jones, and was just discovered and circulated by the NRCC. "Here I am, the only Member of Congress who actually worked as an economist. And she's, this lobbyist, this K Street whore, is trying to teach me about economics," said Grayson.
Grayson spokesman Todd Jurkowski stood by the Congressman's comments, telling the Orlando Sentinel in an e-mail: "She attacked the Congressman and his efforts to promote a Republican bill to audit the Federal Reserve. She actually questioned his understanding of the difference between fiscal and monetary policy. This is [a] person who used to be the chief lobbyist for Enron attacking the intelligence and motives of a Congressman who used to be an economist."
The Politico reports that some of Grayson's House Democratic colleagues are creating some distance from him in light of this. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) called the comment "inappropriate and unfair" to Robertson. Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) was more blunt: "Is this news to you that this guy's one fry short of a Happy Meal?"
NRCC spokesman Andy Seré released this statement: "Alan Grayson is a vile and vulgar man whose behavior brings shame to Central Florida on a near-daily basis. His continued insistence on belittling an accomplished woman with such an insulting remark is final confirmation - as if it was needed - that he has no business near the United States Congress or any other position of public trust."

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FreeRider
October 27, 2009 9:57 AM
Grayson needs to install a filter between his brain and his mouth. Candor and guts are good things to have in a Congressman. A total lack of discipline is not.
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tiowally
October 27, 2009 10:06 AM in reply to FreeRider
I disagree. It's about time someone spoke the truth, in plain English, about these bastards. I, for one, hope it catches on nationwide.
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FreeRider
October 27, 2009 11:31 AM in reply to tiowally
Yeah, calling a woman a whore is a sure way to win votes.
Get a clue. This guy is outta control.
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EH
October 27, 2009 11:40 AM in reply to FreeRider
The "clue" may be that she actually is a whore.
I thought the point was to tell the truth, not just "be elected." For him to change his behavior just to get elected would be whorish indeed. Better he be a known quantity.
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JeffB
October 27, 2009 12:19 PM in reply to EH
Has Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) gone too far by calling Lobbyist 'K Street Whore'?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6372
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calgarr
October 27, 2009 1:57 PM in reply to JeffB
Looks like that poll is sitting at 84% saying he didn't go too far, and I agree. Lobbyists are parasites, nothing more. They sell every piece of morality and decency in exchange for enlarging someone's profit margin and getting a little 'trickle down' for their efforts. They perform dirty deeds for money...that sounds like a whore to me.
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Cy Guy
October 27, 2009 2:28 PM in reply to calgarr
I think a better word would have been pimp, because both a pimp and a lobbyist's primary job is marketing.
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calgarr
October 28, 2009 2:10 AM in reply to Cy Guy
Marketing...that's a brilliant way to put it. Honestly, it's a reflection of the state of our national discourse when more people care about the potentially offensive word choice than about the factual accuracy of the description. Bah!
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fsudirectory
October 27, 2009 12:01 PM in reply to FreeRider
A "whore" in the temrs of selling out to corporations via lobbying and insulting his intelligence in the process, is ok with me, may it be a man or woman.
She doesn't get a new label because shes a woman, a whore is a whore, regardless of their sex
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E. Puerco
October 27, 2009 12:01 PM in reply to FreeRider
What did you expect him to call her? A hooker. That would be so demeaning. "Whore" way classier and correct in all meanings possible. No equivocating.
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EH
October 27, 2009 12:17 PM in reply to E. Puerco
maybe it would have been more acceptable to call her a "k-street gigolo."
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Tim
October 27, 2009 11:39 AM in reply to tiowally
Agreed. A good cop is no good without a bad cop.
I'd like all, or 99% of Democrats to be a sliding scale between Al Franken and Al Grayson.
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musgrove
October 27, 2009 10:07 AM in reply to FreeRider
Meh its ok if the dems have at least 1 fire thrower on their side.
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jenzinoh
October 27, 2009 11:02 AM in reply to musgrove
Agreed... and the only necessary rebuttal to the RNCC is, well, I suppose if he was having sex with her behind closed doors, a la several Congressional Republicans, that would be okie doke.
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Lestatdelc
October 27, 2009 12:19 PM in reply to FreeRider
Yeah and you were so on the spot with how the elections go last year.
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Gopherit
October 27, 2009 12:52 PM in reply to FreeRider
I agree. More sternly worded memos, please.
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lexalexander
October 27, 2009 1:10 PM in reply to FreeRider
Strictly speaking, Grayson is wrong; the woman is not a whore. She's a john. The congresscritters who take her money and do her bidding are the whores.
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buck
October 27, 2009 9:20 PM in reply to FreeRider
Grayson should have offered a Republican style non-apology apology, "I am sorry that I called this woman a whore. It thought she was a man and calling a man a whore would not have been a problem."
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Steve LaBonne
October 27, 2009 10:12 AM
He needs to learn to put a sock in it sometimes, but I have little time for phony outrage over this when nobody seems to have any outrage to spare for the fact that Bernanke hired a former Enron shill to lobby against Fed transparency. I think that's a bit more important than Grayson's choice of words.
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Dave Adams
October 27, 2009 10:27 AM in reply to Steve LaBonne
If the subject of Grayson's metaphor was a former Enron Lobbyist, could someone please explain to me how Grayson's description was inaccuarate? I mean, did she apologize at some point for doing her part to screw over the entire state of California?
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Minne sconsin
October 27, 2009 10:50 AM in reply to Dave Adams
Exactly.
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lapdogs
October 27, 2009 11:15 AM in reply to Dave Adams
Nuf said!!
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Indie Pro
October 27, 2009 10:45 AM in reply to Steve LaBonne
or Obama placing Monsanto and CropLife officials in key agriculture posts
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PushMe-PullYou
October 28, 2009 12:27 PM in reply to Steve LaBonne
The phony outrage to Rep. Grayson's remark is in direct proportion to the remark's accuracy. Grayson is being demonized precisely because he tells the truth. In Washington that's considered a "gaffe." Telling the truth repeatedly embarrasses the rest of the political class and makes Grayson a target of their wrath -- especially the Republican's.
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madmatt
October 27, 2009 10:23 AM
Yes but what he said was true, Robertson is a K street whore and she was advising Bernanke when he was giving Goldman Sachs everything she wanted. To be fair, everyone on K street is a whore...Robertson is just an ignorant one.
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nellieh
October 27, 2009 11:20 AM in reply to madmatt
To the Republican complainers:YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
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superking
October 27, 2009 10:27 AM
I've said it a thousand times, the true function of "truthers" such as Alex Jones is to fatally detract the credibility of anyone who has the misfortune to associate with them. Interviewed with a truther, debate with a truther, say something true which a truther also said ("C.I.A. funded the Taliban" "OMG that guy must be a truther") whatever - any person or idea which comes into contact with trutherism is doomed to be blacklisted from national politics.
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de TOQUEville
October 27, 2009 10:53 AM in reply to superking
Agreed, superking -- what the heck was Grayson doing on that konspiracy kook's radio show?? Talk about kiss of death.
I've been loving Grayson's outbursts, but this 'whore' thing is a very poor choice of words.
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DA in LA
October 27, 2009 11:20 AM in reply to de TOQUEville
It's not though, because it's the term everyone outside of Washington uses to describe those in Washington.
Greyson knows this. He's been using the language of normal people, which is why his popularity has shot up. All that will happen, is this will cause Greyson to go on tv and radio and explain exactly why people like Robertson are whores. And that's another win.
In 1991 PJ O Rourke wrote a book called "Parliament of Whores." Not much outrage then.
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FreeRider
October 27, 2009 11:34 AM in reply to DA in LA
Grayson is a member of congress. He's not a normal person.
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superking
October 27, 2009 11:37 AM in reply to FreeRider
The thing about our system of government is that "normal people" get to serve in Congress. We don't have a superior ruling class, at least hypothetically.
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DA in LA
October 27, 2009 11:38 AM in reply to FreeRider
Oh. I'll tell that to the Founding Fathers, who used language exactly like this all the time.
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sharonsj
October 27, 2009 11:40 AM in reply to DA in LA
I'm with DA in LA. I read a ton of sites and comments and calling Congress "whores" is commonplace. The correct term, though, is "corporate whores." So if she's shilling for some corporation, then the term is applicable.
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thomas1
October 27, 2009 12:15 PM in reply to sharonsj
K Street whore, Corporate whore, same difference
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Pirate of the Caribbean
October 27, 2009 10:28 AM
Grayson should apologize - to whores for comparing them to lobbyists. Not to make light of the whole sex-industry issue, but at least prostitutes give something of value for the money. Can lobbyists say the same?
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:38 AM in reply to Pirate of the Caribbean
Agreed!
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calgarr
October 27, 2009 2:03 PM in reply to Pirate of the Caribbean
Best comment re this article. Had me rolling, but it's also true.
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superking
October 27, 2009 10:29 AM
Also, this is going to be portrayed as sexism by the RNC. If Grayson called a man a "whore" this story wouldn't have any legs whatsoever. I'm not usually one to cry "reverse-sexism" but...
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AJM
October 27, 2009 10:30 AM
Republicans always think everything is about sex. Grayson was talking about politics and is absolutely correct.
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Connor
October 27, 2009 10:31 AM
"May have gone too far."
Goddamnit. You think THIS is going too far? "K Street Whore" is a pretty apt description for this woman, and most everyone else on K Street. We should all use it more often. Shit's pretty bad out there if you haven't noticed. Largely the result of "K Street Whores."
God, liberals deserve all the 'wussy' name-calling they get.
What do you say to the Glenn Beck Brownshirts? "Why, I never!" "How beastly!"
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Tim
October 27, 2009 11:44 AM in reply to Connor
I'd like to see some news org do some in depth piece on her, and then, I wouldn't be surprise that they found out, that in fact, Grayson is right, metaphorically and otherwise,... she is a K street whore. Maybe someone from the Daily show could proposition her.
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Connor
October 27, 2009 10:33 AM
"May have gone too far."
Goddamnit. You think THIS is going too far? "K Street Whore" is a pretty apt description for this woman, and most everyone else on K Street. We should all use it more often. Shit's pretty bad out there if you haven't noticed. Largely the result of "K Street Whores."
God, liberals deserve all the 'wussy' name-calling they get.
What do you say to the Glenn Beck Brownshirts? "Why, I never!" "How beastly!"
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lousgirl84
October 27, 2009 10:39 AM in reply to Connor
Exactly. I don't think he should apologize. It's good to have someone like him on our side giving the other side a dose of their own medicine.
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Walter Mitty
October 27, 2009 10:36 AM
Grayson needs to specify that he calls all lobbyists K-Street Whores. The GOP is making issue with the fact he called a woman a whore here. Has Grayson ever called a male lobbyist a K-Street Whore? Is there footage of it?
He's in the process of a epic flame-out though, I think he's toast in 2010, but he doesn't seem to care or drastically overestimates the power of the progressive net-roots.
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Conrads Ghost
October 27, 2009 10:43 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
In what way is he "in the process of an epic flame out"?
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Minne sconsin
October 27, 2009 10:54 AM in reply to Conrads Ghost
Agreed. Jeez, Walter, it's nice to know that we can count on you for our daily dosage of doom-and-gloom.
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Walter Mitty
October 27, 2009 11:01 AM in reply to Conrads Ghost
He's upped his rhetoric to that of a raving loon. All the publicity has gone to his head, as is his reading all of his fan mail at Daily Kos. He has become the Dem. answer to Michele Bachmann - shows book him because they know he'll same something ridiculous, and he willingly plays the part.
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Minne sconsin
October 27, 2009 11:09 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
Oh yes - he's got fans at the Great Orange Satan, Daily Kos. Guilt by association - he's obviously up to no good.
I'm not sure if I'm more ticked that 1) you're willing to trash our fellow progressives, or 2) it just comes automatically - you don't even realize that you're doing it.
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kash79
October 27, 2009 11:10 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
I agree with you Walter, of course minus all the worry.
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tiowally
October 27, 2009 11:14 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
You cannot be serious. Everything — EVERYTHING! — Grayson has said has been factually true. Hell, it can't even be considered even mildly hyperbolic. More like, "Just the facts, ma'am."
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:41 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
Oh for goodness sakes! That Congressman Grayson must be crazy since he makes honest comments in public and doesn't act like it's okay to be an amoral whore for powerful interests! I think I feel the vapors coming on!
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kash79
October 27, 2009 10:36 AM
This reflect the political climate we live in:
Grayson and people like him, even if are making a rational point, have to use sensational and irrational language to gain attention and audience. On the flip side, it is their bytes taken out of context that are highlighted to flag them as illegitimate, bring them down.
I personally would not want to see any elected Dem use the word "whore" against any woman.
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DA in LA
October 27, 2009 11:51 AM in reply to kash79
And that's why Democrats, while having a huge majority, appear to be cowering abuse victims.
Keep playing nice, it gets us so very far.
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hollywood
October 27, 2009 3:33 PM in reply to kash79
A woman? Who cares? A whore is a whore is a whore! If she was the Enron-go-to-Bitch then the electric bill I pay at my home in California every month still includes some of the ENRON TAX that we all continue to pay here for the good work of this WHORE in years gone by.
The absolute trouble with liberals is they are afraid to FIGHT about anything important and that is why 45,000 people die every year in America for lack of decent health insurance. Rethuglicans will smear you with lies into the ground like an old shit stain but delicate sensitive Dems cannot even tell the truth about anyone without beating each other up over it.
SHE IS A WHORE! ENRON RAPED CALIFORNIA FOR BILLIONS AND I AM STILL PAYING OFF THE GODDAMN BILL! FUCKING WHORE!
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Conrads Ghost
October 27, 2009 10:40 AM
Fair or not (IOKIYAR) Grayson's gonna have to refine his firepower. Increased exposure brings increased responsibility. He can still say what he wants to say; he's just going to have to see, design, and utilize his statements as narrative incipits rather than one-off slams, re: the White House's dismantling of Fox News' cover of 'objectivity.' If he can pull it off, he has a bright future. And I gotta take issue with Weiner here - usually I love this guy's work but apparently he has a bad case of circular firing squad-itis. Mr. Weiner might instead take a moment and have a one-on-one in private with his teammate. What policy wonks like Mr. Weiner may not understand is the Democratic Party desperately needs folks like Grayson; there are a lot of folks (read: potential/independent voters) out there who connect with his approach. He just needs a little polish.
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BurningFeet
October 27, 2009 10:40 AM
No disputing the facts in this matter: Grayson worked as an economist; whores work on K Street. What? Did a Democrat call someone out? Oh NOES!
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superpuck
October 27, 2009 10:43 AM
He was responding to this woman's insult, not just pulling this comment out of the air. For christ's sake, sitting back and letting these people step all over you? This is appropriate? Could you get any more insipid?
Here's what's grossly inappropriate: another Dem calls him one fry shy of a Happy Meal. Right, he's crazy for responding with any force to one of the parasites eating away at our democracy.
Give me a break. As has already been said: let the party have it's one attack dog. You find Grayson offensive, just hold up that photo of Harry Reid and coo, then.
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Steve LaBonne
October 27, 2009 10:48 AM in reply to superpuck
Speaking of whores, Weiner and Grayson are both, let's face it, attention whores (which is just fine by me since they get attention for progressive ideas and not just for themselves.) There's generally not much love lost between such characters; they don't like sharing the spotlight.
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Bill From PA
October 27, 2009 10:51 AM
Bullshit to apologies, he was standing tall and in the right. If he ever does go too far afield that's OK too, it makes it easier for other Dems to fire off criticism and seem reasonable by comparison. It's about time one of ours starts to push the dialogue away from wingnuttery and in our direction.
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Connor
October 27, 2009 10:52 AM
Don't get me wrong: I love TPM. But you guys are getting a little...milquetoast lately.
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superpuck
October 27, 2009 10:52 AM
Whatever does that have to do with what I just wrote?
Have you ever thought about writing for Slate?
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superpuck
October 27, 2009 10:54 AM in reply to superpuck
this comment was intended for Steve LaBonne, above.
Thought it was strung to my original comment.
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Steve LaBonne
October 27, 2009 10:58 AM in reply to superpuck
I was explaining why Weiner felt motivated to attack Grayson. Since that attack was a major topic of your comment, I'm puzzled by your puzzlement.
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theWalrus
October 27, 2009 10:54 AM
In the first paragraph of this story who exactly is saying "...[Grayson] may have gone a bit too far in one of his latest rhetorical excesses..."
Eric Kleefeld? TPM? Someone else?
It was only a matter of time before the trashing and marginalizing of Grayson would go into full swing. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. I'm not at all surprised that fellow Dems are joining Rightwingers in this. Weiner's comments are particularly harsh and uncalled for. Shame on him.
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Eric Jaffa
October 27, 2009 10:58 AM in reply to theWalrus
Eric Kleefeld.
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dswx
October 27, 2009 11:09 AM in reply to Eric Jaffa
Why are we not surprised by the not so subtle editorializing?
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Schmed- ley
October 27, 2009 11:42 AM in reply to theWalrus
That's been my problem with the gutless Democrats. They're perfectly willing to let the Repubs piss all over their backs, but if one of them starts to piss back, they get all "holier than thou" and tell the offending upstart to apologize.
Politics is a blood sport -- always was and always will be. If the Democrats had any spine at all, they would have delivered the death blow to the GOP by now. Instead, they're pissing away their majority and not accomplishing a hell of a lot of anything.
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Clavis
October 27, 2009 12:18 PM in reply to Schmed- ley
Well put. Democrats and liberals generally aren't authoritarian. We aren't hypertribalists. It doesn't matter if we get crude or rough with our langauge, we're never going to ever truly sink to the level of "Some say [my opponent] has an illegitimate black baby" or "I'm afraid that [my opponent] doesn't see America the way you or I do..." We're just not capable of that kind of sociopathic in-group thinking...
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MJAN
October 27, 2009 10:55 AM
Does anyone else think he looks like Oliver Stone? He even has the gap in his two front teeth.
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Dorn76
October 27, 2009 10:55 AM
It's crude, but accurate.
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Why oh why
October 27, 2009 10:58 AM
Killing hundreds of thousands of people across the world and selling out the government to the highest bidder is fine for DC politicians, on the left and on the right, but calling a corporate prostitute a "whore" (or showing boobs on TV)? Watch them faint in horror!
Nothing is more important than reducing the role of lobbyists in Washington, so good for Grayson. Weiner should reflect on the influence of AIPAC whores instead of jumping in front of every camera he can find.
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Connor
October 27, 2009 11:01 AM in reply to Why oh why
Agreed 100%
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Eric Jaffa
October 27, 2009 11:02 AM
We have a Republican governor in MN because of the coverage of the Democratic candidate in the last election calling a guy who is a reporter "a Republican whore."
Personally, I have no problem with the term.
But strategically, it might be better for politicians to use the word "pawn" instead of "whore."
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SBG
October 27, 2009 11:14 AM in reply to Eric Jaffa
There we go. Pawn. And OMG, Pawlenty was going to go down until right at the end. Still pissed about that.
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GregorZap
October 27, 2009 11:32 AM in reply to SBG
The MSM may have painted a picture of his "Republican whore" comment as the deal breaker, but it was more then that, I'm sure.
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thomas1
October 27, 2009 12:29 PM in reply to Eric Jaffa
a pawn is a pawn, a whore is a whore. There's a BIG difference last time I checked. Perhaps we should consult Webster?
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lapdogs
October 27, 2009 11:04 AM
Sure hope Rep Grayson keeps that TRUTH rolling our of his mouth - loud and clear!!!
It's about time somebody with a "D" after their name HITS BACK HARD and tells it like it is.
K-STREET is nothing but a bunch of Overpaid Whores, that could care less about the laws put on the books from their lobbying - just as long as their pockets get filled with HARD, COLD CASH after their PORN ACT before a Rep or Senator.
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dave olson
October 27, 2009 11:12 AM in reply to lapdogs
You're getting a lot of emotional satisfaction out of Grayson's comments, but at what price? It doesn't help us become a more rational country. Do you really need a Democratic Hannity?
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Schmed- ley
October 27, 2009 11:45 AM in reply to dave olson
You don't get rationality by letting your child continue to spit at people in public. Sometimes, you have to smack him in the mouth to get his attention before you can begin the lecture on civil behavior.
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:48 AM in reply to dave olson
You prefer Harry Reid and his chorus of cowards who have compromised away every advance and lost every major battle on the Hill for decades? I simply do not understand people who think that when someone spits in your face it's most effective to go tell Mommy or show everyone what a good boy you are by not reacting. No. You let them have it so they know there's not going to be anymore free attacks without consequences.
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TheOtherWA
October 27, 2009 11:04 AM
If this lobbyist had been a man, everyone would have understood what Grayson was saying. It was an unfortunate choice of words, even if they are accurate. Most lobbyists are political whores.
He needs to leave the name calling to radio talk show hosts and stick to policies. If a radio person said Cheney had blood dripping from his teeth, I'd laugh. From a member of congress, not so much.
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Minne sconsin
October 27, 2009 11:05 AM
Meh. I don't see the problem. "K-Street whore"?
We need an attack dog. Grayson seems to be filling the role. The attack dog's role is to point out, sometimes in vulgar terms, some of the "deficiencies" of the opposition. And he/she must do this without the leadership being seen to hold the leash.
This gives the leadership and the rank-and-file plausible deniability and the opportunity to tut-tut and engage in mild public hand-wringing over the attack dog's behavior, while privately handing him a scooby-snack.
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gizmo
October 27, 2009 11:06 AM
I think Grayson is right on the money on the issues, and I appreciate the fact that we've finally got a Democrat who will stand and fight. But it's possible to be blunt and direct without going over the line into personal insults and political theatre that doesn't help. Grayson's behavior makes it too easy for the corporate media to marginalize him, and that is exactly what they will do, because they value civility over truth. Howard Dean is a better model, IMHO-- he doesn't mince words, and he is fearless when being interviewed.
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lamonth
October 27, 2009 11:06 AM
the lobbyist call me a socialist because i believe in limits and regulation on capital markets. maybe grayson knows something about the woman's social life
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dave olson
October 27, 2009 11:08 AM
Not good. Grayson is entertaining, but bad for Democrats. Thanks to Rush, Sean, etc., Republicans have been indecent in their rhetoric for years. Democrats should maintain a contrast. They need to be the adults in the room.
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kash79
October 27, 2009 11:14 AM in reply to dave olson
C'mon. He is not "bad for the Democrats," He ia the sideshow of smaller magnitude, if anything he will keep the left feel fiery which isn't all that.
I'm only a little sad for him.
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:50 AM in reply to dave olson
You mean the punching bag in the room don't you? John Kerry was "the adult in the room" in 2004 and refused to fight back. Look what that got him.
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kash79
October 27, 2009 11:08 AM
Not to mention Grayson is quickly exhausting his 15 minutes in the "mainstream." Whatever comes out of his mouth, despite the value of it, will be dismissed now as illegitimate and nonsense.
But probably his legacy will be the cult hero status among the left.
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hollywood
October 27, 2009 3:44 PM in reply to kash79
I think Grayson has a big big future! He is smart and gets to the point with a minimum of bullshit. I hope he runs for the US Senate. I would love to see him debate whatever lying shitbag the rethuglicans put up.
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GTFOOH
October 27, 2009 11:09 AM
What I love most, is the congressman's spokesman stood by his words! Not the usual "his word were taking out of context, he was misunderstood, he's been under a lot of stress and will soon be entering a conversational rehab."
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Steve LaBonne
October 27, 2009 11:13 AM in reply to GTFOOH
And the concern trolls greatly underestimate the hunger of voters for that kind of refusal to engage in the usual mealy-mouthed politician-speak.
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GTFOOH
October 27, 2009 11:18 AM in reply to Steve LaBonne
Exactly! I'll take your Michelle Bachmann and go FISH!
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Cool Blue Reason
October 27, 2009 11:10 AM
I'm confused. Is the epithet they are so worked up about voicing the words "K Street" or "whore"?
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lapdogs
October 27, 2009 11:11 AM
It's thanks to these K-Street Whores that every law on the books is sooooo convoluted.
They are the ones who convince Congress to screw a once simple law into being a 1,000+ Page Bill that nobody can understand and that brings good 'ol John Boner to start crying and slamming a bunch of paper he didn't read to the floor!!!
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flounder
October 27, 2009 11:13 AM
Here would be my suggested spin to any Dem asked to denounce Grayson:
The RNC is defending the honor of an Enron lobbyist who helped steal from grandmas all across the country.
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VivaAmerica!
October 27, 2009 11:14 AM
Sigh! Of course some of you don't see a problem with what he said. This is the way you all speak on the blogs and amongst friends. Grayson, however, is a politician (who is now being targeted by the Right) and he should watch his mouth. He could have said something else just as sharp without using the word "whore" when dissing a woman - and yes I know and the opposition knows what he meant, but the public won't.
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:54 AM in reply to VivaAmerica!
And that's where you're dead wrong. The public will know exactly what he meant unless he allows the Republicans and their hypocritical buddies in the media to portray this as something it wasn't. Of course, the cowardly Democrats like Hoyer will run like the rats they are hoping that the Republican move works since honesty like Grayon's threatens them just as much as it does the Republicans because it exposes their own hypocrisy and deceit.
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mikedrevguy
October 27, 2009 11:16 AM
If you think this through = calling her 'the K street whore' provides an incorrect analysis of her function. She's actually the one brokering the 'relationship' between the customer and the buyer - the seller and the buyer: she, as lobbyist, would actually function as the pimp. The 'John' would be represented by the corporate firms she represents - they are they ones coming up with the money, yes? And so the term'whore' would then be more accurately applicable by those residing in the K Street brothel - yes?
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CranialRectalLoopback
October 27, 2009 11:19 AM
If the dildo fits, wear it.
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Beagle
October 27, 2009 11:20 AM
Easy, big fella. Know when to strike and when to be quite. Choose your fight wisely.
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Whenwillthisnightmareend
October 27, 2009 11:21 AM
I feel a bit uncomfortable with Grayson, not because of what he says, but because of how much he's saying. This said, it's about time we had a dem. congressman who is not afraid to speak the truth for us, but by choosing carefully the issues he speaks to, his impact would be greater and offer less to the opposition to denigrate. Thanks for speaking, but be careful.
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cmaukonen
October 27, 2009 11:21 AM
All lobbyists are either whores or pimps. Just better paid than the other kind.
C
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:56 AM in reply to cmaukonen
And they ply their trade under color of law.
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astral66
October 27, 2009 11:21 AM
K Street lobbyists ARE a bunch of whores. How is this a story? Thank you Mr. Grayson for speaking truth to power and refusing to back down to the thugs that peddle stories like this.
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debbiedoesnothing
October 27, 2009 11:22 AM
I liked Grayson at first but his ego has overtaken his mouth. The last couple of appearances on Rachel Maddow and the name of his website convinced me that he's our version of Michele Bachmann and Steve King. He's an attention whore. It's fun to hear him spouting off but in the long run, it doesn't make us or our politics look good and he comes off looking stupid and mentally unbalanced.
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kash79
October 27, 2009 11:26 AM in reply to debbiedoesnothing
I kinda agree. I expect him to be a regular on Boll'O or Hannity- they love a liberal who sounds like a loon. In fact, why doesn't it surprise me he made the "K street whore" comments on a right wing talk radio?
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Rich
October 27, 2009 11:23 AM
What's the problem? K Street lobbyists are whores. they probably joke about this among themselves. This is hardly a novel observation. I'm happy to see Grayson amp up the rhetoric.
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Richardxx
October 27, 2009 11:31 AM
This is an interesting article in journalese. Eric reported the public conflicting statements, then added the explanation by Grayson's spokesman followed by two attacks on Grayson, one by the right-wing leaning Politico and the other by the NRCC. There's no hint where the accurate balance might lie.
But this is from Wikipedia about Grayson:
Grayson very probably knows what he is talking about. Linda Robinson was apparently a media flack ("whore") for Enron. That's a major strike against her. I'll take Grayson over Robertson and the right-wing press any day. Grayson seems to have it all together, and if there is a right-winger in America today who that can be said of, he or she damned sure isn't putting his head above ground in the current climate of right-wing idiocy.
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Plan 9 Studios
October 27, 2009 11:33 AM
He had me until we went misogynistic. Now it kind of seems like he's saying these things to be less true, just more shocking.
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 11:35 AM
Is it any surprise that the people who have been losing every important battle for the last 40 years on Capitol Hill are uncomfortable with a guy who showed up to the fight with every intention of winning? Nothing he said was inappropriate particularly when you find out this woman was Enron's lobbyist. Every single lobbyist for business in Washington is a whore. Grayson's direct, and honest comments make most Hill Democrats uncomfortable because they still want to play footsie with the wealthy and powerful whereas Grayson has no such intention.
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Leftist Pinko
October 27, 2009 11:38 AM
so, lobbyists AREN'T whores? that's a new one! strong language, sure - but right on the spot.
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Bademus
October 27, 2009 11:41 AM
Bottom line, she insulted his intelligence and he responded by calling her a whore. It sounds childish and petty to use that kind of language as an insult, particularly to a woman. There's just no getting around it.
You can call a man and a woman a corporate whore, but the sexual meaning of the word has a different impact when used against a woman than it does against a man. Bad choice of words this time.
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Richardxx
October 27, 2009 12:17 PM in reply to Bademus
He didn't "call" her a whore. He described her job as a PR person for Enron. That's not name-calling. That's an accurate description of her job.
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GregorZap
October 27, 2009 11:44 AM
It seems to me the rise of the Reich was brought about by the GOP posturing, to a great degree. People went with them because they appeared the stronger party. It has been shown that the drama of an interaction can be more effective in infuencing people then what is actually said. Can anyone explain how it is that so many people were unable to see what their best interests were and reelected Bush? I mean, he won the popularity contest in 2000, being the one with whom people wanted to share some beers, and in 2004, the tough guy. {Note: I'm not saying he actually won, but that it was close enough to steal.} So, I'm okay with Grayson posturing and primping for the folks who cannot see their own best interests through the smoke and mirrors. He identified her very plainly. He might have used a different word, but woud we be talking about her if we did? People really get it now. She did "tricks" for Enron. He spoke their language.
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oleeb
October 27, 2009 12:00 PM in reply to GregorZap
That is what Democratic elitists don't like about people like Grayson: he does speak the language of the people. That's the last thing the typical DC Democrat wants.
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Connor
October 27, 2009 11:46 AM
K Street Lobbyists prefer the term "sex worker."
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Why oh why
October 27, 2009 12:00 PM in reply to Connor
Honest sex workers don't want be associated with corrupt K-Street lobbyists though (unless they get paid, of course).
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ejg3
October 27, 2009 12:01 PM
I think his remarks are in the area of right church wrong pew. The lobbyists function more as pimps or enablers with the whores being members of Congress (as in P.J. O'Rourke's book)Also probably applicable to this exchange is the Ambrose Bierce Devil's Dictionary definition of honest politician being a politician who has been bought who stays bought which probably describes a large number of today's solons. Whoring is used as a descriptive term for much more than sex workers, including expert witnesses in litigation who play the game of you pay it and I'll say it or retained university reserarchers doing work for corporate interests.
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djohngo
October 27, 2009 12:09 PM
Hooray for Congressman Grayson! Hoyer and Weiner need to grow a pair. The NRCC, being experts on vile and vulgar, should just slither back under that rock, and save their breath for the next time they have to defend one of the kid-touchers they helped to put into office.
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punkdavid
October 27, 2009 12:10 PM
If this lobbyist were a man, nobody would have objected to his choice of words. Lobbyists ARE whores.
True gender equality (for all of those with their panties in a bunch over this, so to speak) is the ability to call a female whore a "whore" without being labeled a misogynist for doing so. Misogyny is hating women. Grayson just hates whores. Good on him for saying it.
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miguel
October 27, 2009 12:11 PM
Found Grayson's remarks about the lobyist on YouTube, starting at 2:30 on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRHZXgLMmw
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Clavis
October 27, 2009 12:16 PM
It's an insult to whores to compare them to lobbyists.
Grayson's language may have been over the top but he needs to say a thousand worse things than this to even equal the foulness of today's Republican Party.
Let me know when Grayson does what the Republicans do every day on every issue, which is to accuse their opponents of "wanting to take away our freedom and DESTROY AMERICA!!!"
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Lestatdelc
October 27, 2009 12:17 PM
According to who Eric?
Republicans feigning outrage?
Sex workers?
Corporate whores?
Liberal jellyfish who worry about what the media heathers and big-mean Republicans might say?
Who exactly thinks Grayson may have gone to far?
How many lives were ruined and destroyed by the actions of K-street whore and her clients over the years?
But somehow calling this lobbyist (aka corporate whore) is just a bridge too far?
Nice sense of proportion and perspective there Eric.
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dougjNJ
October 27, 2009 12:20 PM
Yes, let's all endorse casually referring to women as whores!
It doesn't matter if he would have used the same word referring to a man (which we don't know he would have), he actually used it referring to a woman. It seems that the fact that Grayson is considered a liberal means that he couldn't have had any sexist intent in his comment... he's one of the good guys! But there is a serious problem with proclaiming someone a liberal hero just because he says the Republican plan is to die quickly and Cheney is like a vampire. And it's not that Republicans might get offended, it's that we don't know who the guy is other than a bombthrower. Just because he aggressively mocks Republicans (which may be more of a political/media move than out of ideological conviction) doesn't mean he's incapable of sexism, or that he doesn't possess any other sundry negative qualities. The "defense" from his spokesman, which implies that it was appropriate to call her a whore because he perceived that she insulted his intelligence, doesn't instill a lot of confidence that he possesses much sensitivity on such issues.
People are putting way too much stock in this guy, and at some point, if we keep elevating him, he's going to make us look pretty bad. I'm glad to see other Dem members of Congress distancing themselves from him, and I'm afraid the more he speaks, the more other Dems will have to do the same.
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Lestatdelc
October 27, 2009 5:40 PM in reply to dougjNJ
What blather. The same line would be apropos if this was a male lobbyist. Your entire screed is sexist blather.
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dougjNJ
October 27, 2009 6:24 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
I agree that the same line would be apropos in reference to a male lobbyist. But context matters, he wasn't talking about a male lobbyist or lobbyists in general. I'm sure Republicans would consider it apropos to say McChrystal should put Obama in his place, but that doesn't mean it wasn't sexist when they said it about Pelosi. But I guess it's me who is sexist for thinking that "whore" could be seen as a gender based attack, after all, there are lots of male whores out there. My bad.
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dougjNJ
October 27, 2009 6:33 PM in reply to dougjNJ
And here's Grayson's apology:
I offer my sincere apology to Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke. I did not intend to use a term that is often, and correctly, seen as disrespectful of women.
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Rich in NJ
October 27, 2009 12:22 PM
It may be impolitic but it's not necessarily untrue.
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Richardxx
October 27, 2009 12:25 PM
In Texas and the Southwest she would be known as un sexoservidor paid to service the corrupt right-wing. The blunter anglo-saxon term is less descriptive but has a crisper emotional impact.
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Pete Bilderback
October 27, 2009 12:28 PM
Why was Grayson talking to Alex Jones in the first place? To call Jones a "right-wing talker" is an insult to folks like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Jones is a paranoid conspiracy freak, whose Anti-Semitic fantasies make Limbaugh and Hannity look like Edward R. Murrow in comparison.
No Democrat should be talking to Alex Jones. Period. No sane person should be talking to him. It's amusing to me that the same people who assail any Democrat goes on Fox News as a weakling, are now praising their new truth-telling hero for something he said on the Alex Jones show.
Keep in mind that Jones is someone--in addition to his multiple fraudulent 9/11 conspiracy claims--has a film out called "The Obama Deception" in which he claims that so-called banker "elites" engineered the 2008 Wall Street crash in order to install their "puppet" Barack Obama as President of the United States. The is the same paranoid Anti-Semitic bullshit the John Birch Society peddled years ago. Why in the hell would any good Democrat--an elected Democrat no less--be willing to lend legitimacy to that hateful freak show by appearing on it?
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Grackle
October 27, 2009 12:35 PM
Grayson needs to dial it back a bit. Just a bit. Overboard comments like this one and Cheney as a vampire dripping blood from his teeth will ruin how effective he can be. There's a big difference between trash talk and sharp wit.
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jarjarbush
October 27, 2009 12:40 PM
Truth sucks don't it Andy. Grayson was being kind.
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jarjarbush
October 27, 2009 12:44 PM
She's beyond whore. She's the Madam.
http://www.sovereignsociety.com/2009Archives1stHalf/060809FedBringsonEnronsLindaRobertson/tabid/5732/Default.aspx
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BrianSkuse
October 27, 2009 1:35 PM in reply to jarjarbush
Thank You, jarjar ! People need to know that his lobbyist actually is a disgusting corrupt slime ball with a solid record of disaster ... helping Phil Gramm pass the laws that lead to financial catastrophe ...
I suppose she tools around Washington being treated respectably by responsible people : and why is that, I ask you, colleagues ? How corrupt are things in that city ?
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sunnysteve
October 27, 2009 12:48 PM
Grayson has again served as a catalyst for a long discussion (above) primarily focused on good political strategies, when to be and not to be nice, misogyny and so on. Of course, what he really dares to speak to is the fact that people in positions of wealth and power deliberately kill other people every day in order to maintain or even enhance their wealth and power. Deliberately kill. Lots of layers erected between themselves and the actual dying, but they do it knowingly every day and without conscience or consequences. They employ others to do the actual dirty work. Calling these people out also is necessary to eventually bring down the entire mess. Kudos to Grayson. He will fall, but with honor, in my opinion.
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johnmccsf
October 27, 2009 12:51 PM
Anyone else still wondering why the GOP carpetbagged this district with an opponent?
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Lestatdelc
October 27, 2009 5:43 PM in reply to johnmccsf
What is funny is that I bet my last dollar Grayson will win it with even bigger margins this tim e. People like honest language (even if blunt). I hope the GOp sinks a ton of money in that race in the futile effort to beat Grayson. Less money in other races which will be close.
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Gopherit
October 27, 2009 12:51 PM
Sigh. Lobbyists, by definition, are the ones who have the money and lay out the terms. Grayson IS wrong here. She's not a whore......she's a John/Jill. The legislatures that listen to her are whores.
Other than that, way to call it close to the truth, Rep. Grayson.
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lizbensky
October 27, 2009 1:35 PM
It's good to see a Democrat spout a pair for a change. And this is fairly tame compared to Repugs. This will not hurt Grayson in the long run. Besides, that is the way I or anyone I know would describe lobbyists. It's real person talk. It's honest. What's he supposed to say as an apology - Sorry, I didn't mean that she was an actual prostitute as in sex for money?
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lizbensky
October 27, 2009 1:39 PM in reply to lizbensky
sprout a pair
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TTN
October 27, 2009 2:06 PM
His calling that lobbyist a whore reminds me of the story about Heidi DeJong Barsuglia who is a lobbyist for an energy firm in California and had an affair with Republican congressman Duvall. It's a strong and offensive word, but it fits.
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MT from CC
October 27, 2009 2:19 PM
I dunno - when major players who lead and/or are associated with the opposition party regularly call the sitting President a communist, fascist, Nazi, socialist, liar, cheater, and many other grievously insulting names (e.g., shouting out "liar" during a national address before a joint session of Congress, and then defending it after the fact, almost immediately after a half-assed apology, to the daily load of propaganda from Faux News), getting this worked up over somebody calling a former Enron bigwig who makes her living on K Street as an hourly rate "public face" [hit man? hit person?] for companies or people who have hired her to work the political system and media for their financial benefit a "K Street Whore" seems a little oversensitive. K Street Whore is, incidentally, an expression that has been out there for years, and has been used much more commonly to describe males than females, largely because males still dominate the K Street lobbying world. But to apologize because some douchebag (or several douchebags) in the GOP and the corporate media get their panties in a wad (sorry for the sexist metaphor) is a classic reflection of what a bunch of total pussies the democrats have become.
Thankfully, Grayson doesn't seem to give a $hit. I hope he keeps it up, making the idiots and a-holes on the right squirm, and helping the pussies who call themselves "Democratic party leaders" in the center-left to grow a pair. Sheesh.
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traunch
October 27, 2009 6:09 PM
A rose is a rose...She's a player in a very high stakes dirty business (if this is an authentic memo from her Enron days [snagged from a Ron Paul site http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=194860]):
Quote:
To: Ken Lay and Steve Kean
From: Enron governmental affairs executive Linda Robertson
Date: June 1, 2001
Subject: The President's Dinner, A Congressional Salute Honoring President Bush and Vice President Cheney, June 7, 2001, in Washington, DC
...The President's Dinner is a joint fundraising effort by the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC). We contacted both Congressman Tom DeLay and the House Senate Dinner committee to ensure that Enron could fully participate in The President's Dinner and receive credit for money we have already committed to the Committees earlier this year.
With the assistance of Congressman Tom DeLay, we were able to apply our previously contributed soft money toward this dinner. Consequently, we will be credited as giving $250,000 to this event, even though we are being asked to give only $50,000 in new soft money. Our earlier contributions of $100,000 each to the NRCC and NRSC will make up the remaining money. You will be listed as Co-Chair of the event, the highest level of giving. We will be crediting Congressmen DeLay, Armey, Barton and Tauzin for raising the $100,000 allocation for the NRCC. As for $100,000 we earlier gave the NRSC, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison has requested that Enron give her some credit for raising the money. We would like to split it among several other Senators.
In addition, Congressman Tom DeLay has asked Enron to contribute $100,000 to his leadership committee, ARMPAC, through a combination of corporate and personal money from Enron's executives. ARMPAC funds will be used to assist other House Members as well as the redistricting effort in Texas. We will be meeting this request over the course of this calendar year...
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gjoh
October 28, 2009 3:55 PM
"Grayson Calls Lobbyist 'K Street Whore'"
OK, and I should be offended by this, why....?
If the lobbyist quacks like a duck, walks like a duck....
Well, you get my meaning.
Grayson is not afraid to stand up to bullies. I support that.
Next distraction please.
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