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Harkin, Again, Hints At Consequences For Off-The-Reservation Chairmen

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Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)--chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee is rare among senior Senate Democrats. Whereas many in the party view seniority as akin to tenure, Harkin thinks it should come with responsibility. And when powerful chairmen stray, he doesn't keep quiet.

"[Lieberman] still wants to be a part of the Democratic Party although he is a registered independent," Harkin said. "He wants to caucus with us and, of course, he enjoys his chairmanship of the [Homeland Security] committee because of the indulgence of the Democratic Caucus. So, I'm sure all of those things will cross his mind before the final vote."

Lieberman suggested this week that he'll filibuster health care reform legislation if it includes a public option.

That's even more explicit than his warning, two months ago, that Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) might face repercussions for dragging out the health care reform process for months as chairman of the Finance Committee.

"Every two years the caucus could have a secret ballot on whether a chairman should continue, yes or no," Harkin said. "If the 'no's win, [the chairman's] out.

Of course, the question is, How many Democrats feel the same way?

(H/T: Washington Independent)

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October 30, 2009 9:48 AM   

Great! Someone's got a pair. Squeeze Traitor Joe like a pimple 'til he pops.

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October 30, 2009 10:06 AM   

Fuck two years. If he sides with the filibuster on HCR, along with his comments about stumping for Repukes - bounce his ass immediately. I know the Dems aren't fans of strict party discipline, but letting him keep his chairmanship after that would be akin to refusing to spank your kid after he's burned the house down and spent all the insurance money on blackjack and hookers.

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October 30, 2009 10:18 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

As a progressive, I just don't believe in spanking. Somewhere along the line I must have failed my kid as a parent. I just know I should be able to reason with him -- just as soon as he lets me back in the hotel room (he's locked himself in there again with a hooker). Thankfully the insurance company pays for the hotel room directly...

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October 30, 2009 10:27 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Blackjack and hookers are OK. As long as the money isn't spent foolishly.

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October 30, 2009 10:31 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Absolutely right. If he votes against cloture, strip of his chairmanship the next morning.

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October 30, 2009 10:08 AM   

Joe the Lieberman is my favorite democrat Senator. I could just kiss him! Harkin won't dare mess with Joe.

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October 30, 2009 10:12 AM   

Bounce. Bounce Bounce.

If Lieberman filibusters the party's most significant accomplishment since LBJ, we need to bounce him.

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October 30, 2009 12:47 PM    in reply to Mateo123

As I recall, the Constitution leaves to the several states the right and obligation to establish for themselves precisely how a sitting Congressperson can be removed from office and subsequently replaced.

I know we've got some folks here from the fine state of Connecticut ... have any of you any idea what is in state law at this time, and whether there is any activity to use or establish any law that could recall Joe?

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October 30, 2009 12:52 PM    in reply to kenga

Sorry, it's a federal issue and there is no recall option

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October 30, 2009 11:35 AM   

Oh, please, spare me the impotent bluster from yet another gutless Democrat. None of these nutless wonders—including Obama, and first and foremost Harry Reid—have the spine to do anything about Lieberman, and he knows it.

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October 30, 2009 11:46 AM    in reply to bluestatedon

So says an unelected, unidentified, unaccountable know-nicht on the Internet....

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October 30, 2009 11:40 AM   

Good for Harkin. Why even have a caucus if supporting it on important votes isn’t a qualification for membership?

Not that I think Holy Joe has a conscience, but if conscience dictates that one can’t vote for the health care bill then don’t vote for it. However, as a member of the caucus you don’t stand in the way of a majority vote by joining a filibuster.

If Lieberman joins a filibuster on HCR I want to see him get the political death penalty: loses his chairmanship and committee assignments, out of the caucus, and the DNC and Obama support his Democratic opponent in 2012.

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October 30, 2009 12:25 PM   

Like I said before, these old geezers will be dying off soon and there'll be new blood in office

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October 30, 2009 2:19 PM    in reply to hologram5

I suppose you've heard of Robert Byrd?

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October 30, 2009 12:30 PM   

I suppose "hints" from a fellow committee chair and not Leadership is the strongest warning shot that can be launched Lieberman's direction at this point since it's a given that anything stronger will simply provoke a 7-year-old's tantrum out of him and he'd join a filibuster purely out of spite.

But it appears that Lamont will run against him again in '12 and would probably appreciate an early endorsement from some of the heavies in the Party at this point....

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October 30, 2009 12:40 PM   

From Iowa... Thank you Senator Harkin. Good to see your name mentioned instead of the steady media stream of Grassley.

Now is the time to take action. I would suggest that after the HCR vote, considering Joe Lieberman's statements today, he should be booted from the caucuas [and his chairmanship] no matter how he votes. Would the Republicans take him into thier caucus or would he have to caucus by himself?

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October 30, 2009 12:57 PM   

Here's some news. Even though Holy Joe is (I-CT) for his Senate seat, he is, in fact registered to vote as a DEM in his home town of Stamford. There was an effort by the CT DEM party to strip him of that, but the issue came down to the local registrar of voters in Stamford. They declined to take action.

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October 30, 2009 1:16 PM   

Politicians won't bitch slap this traitor, for fear they might need him on a future vote. It's time for the electorate to bitch slap him. 68% of people from CT support a public option. Maybe they should be looking at ways to recall his ass.

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October 30, 2009 2:30 PM   

I don't think CT voters have any power to force a recall election for a sitting US Senator. It's a federal office.

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October 30, 2009 2:31 PM   

To me it's simple. If refuses to be the critical sixtieth vote, he is of no use to the caucus and he should be stripped of his chairmanship and cast out to wander the halls of Congress looking for a new home. Someone needs to call him out as an arrogant, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing pompous ass. I'd love to call him out for his clear conflict of interest on health care legislation, but then I would have to call out Bayh, Landrieu, Baucus, Conrad and any other Dem who has received millions in campaign contributions or whose spouse has worked for the health industry.

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November 2, 2009 2:19 AM   

Holy Joe what a whore!

The man who sucks in more insurance and drug money than anyone comes out in favor of insurance and drug corporations. The opinions of the good people of Connecticut are completely ignored.

Why the hell isn't this guy in jail? What the Fuck is wrong with this country?

America is seriously starting to creep me out ........

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