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Hoyer: Probably More Votes For Less-Robust Public Option In House

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House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) told reporters this morning the House may unveil its health care bill by the end of the week, but he also said that the Democratic leaders probably have more votes for a more modest public option than they do for the public option preferred by most liberals.

"It's possible... that would be our objective, and it's our objective because we want to consider this bill next week, and we pledged to give 72 hours notice so we need to roll out the bill this week. So it's very possible that we're going to have a meeting right after this meeting and I think we'll have some better feel for where we are on that."

That will likely please anxious reformers, but it may not all be good news. Asked what type of public option the House bill would likely include, Hoyer suggested that a public option with negotiated rates probably has more votes than does a more robust measure. Though the robust public option has a great deal of support among Democrats, Hoyer asks rhetorically "What additional numbers can you add by going to negotiated rates?...[W]e don't have that exact number. But certainly there are people who want the negotiated rates who would add themselves to the number [that support a robust public option] that is anywhere between 200 and 218 at this point in time."

The difference is key to reformers, and will be key to the House's bargaining position with the Senate when it comes time to turn the two chambers' bills into one. A 'robust' public option--which sets reimbursement rates just above what Medicare pays doctors and hospitals--saves much more money, and has more potential to drive private insurers' premiums down than does a public option that negotiates rates with providers. That's why reformers like it. And given that the Senate's public option proposal is itself based on negotiated rates, if the House endorses something similar, then it will almost certainly mean reformers don't get the public option that they've been demanding all along.

Hoyer also became the first member of House leadership to weigh in on yesterday's momentous news that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had decided to include a public option with an opt-out clause in his health care bill.

"I think we have much stronger support for a public option here in the House, so I think that our bill will be somewhat different on public option," Hoyer said, adding positively: "But we're very pleased that Senator Reid is now talking about including a form of public option so that that will be available for us in conference."

So does the fact that the Senate's public option will be based on negotiated rates have any bearing on what will come out of the House? Hoyer says it's possible.

"There are some members of the House, obviously, who are very concerned about what the Senate does, and they're very concerned about what the Senate does because they want to vote for something that can pass," Hoyer said.

On the other hand there are a whole lot of people in the House--the great majority of the Democrats in the House--who want to see a health reform bill pass in the fashion that we believe is justified and important. And I think the overwhelming majority of Democrats are in favor of a public option. And as a result, my view is, what the Senate does or does not do, does it have an impact? Certainly on individual members. Will individual members have an impact on us in terms of what we can get 218 votes for? Yes that's possible.

There is a third version of the public option under consideration in the House--one that would use negotiated rates at first, but would allow Medicare rates to kick in unless sufficient savings were realized. Hoyer didn't address that option. But nonetheless, those are some very candid, on the record suggestions that the House bill is likely to include a less-than-maximal public option.

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October 27, 2009 11:52 AM   

The spectacle of all the old, rich white guys deciding which crumbs to dole out to the masses is appalling and disgusting. Hoyer is a tool's tool. I remember him from years in Maryland. In any event, these people have no idea how most of us live and are only sealing their own doom by not working for the people instead of their corporate masters.

In the very near future, they will all be gone, taken by elections or the reaper, and if there are any of us left, we'll get something better for the people of the only developed nation on earth where one is left to die for lack of money. In the meantime, thousands will perish from lack of timely care, families will be bankrupted and destroyed, and the rich will go their merry way as long as the currency is still worth something.

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October 27, 2009 12:01 PM   

Hoyer has been anti-PO from the start. I am more interested in what Pelosi has to say. Like her or not, she has been on the side of the left and most Americans through the entire debate.

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October 27, 2009 1:51 PM    in reply to xargaw

Agreed. This is Steny going to bat for his Blue Dogs and trying to give them cover to "stay strong".

After Harry's announcement yesterday, we're seeing the full court press by the Blue Dogs and ConservaDems to water down and already watered down PO. In the Senate, we're hearing that the "real compromise" might end up being an Opt-In, which is "good luck" even in a state like CA. In the House, we're seeing the push to cling to a Less Robust PO, even though it's fiscally *worse* policy.

Typical Steny. I wish someone would primary his ass out of town.

John

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October 27, 2009 12:03 PM   

Hoyer, another K-Street whore.

(I apologize in advance if I offended any honest, hard-working sex worker.)

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October 27, 2009 12:29 PM   

As long as the more robust version passes, I could care less what the vote count ends up at.

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October 27, 2009 1:34 PM   

Keep calling your reps, everyone!

And Hoyer can bite me. Let's see, a choice between passing a better bill by a narrower margin or a worse bill by a bigger margin, which would be better for the country and for Democrats politically? What are voters going to care about in a year, how well the program works or how many votes it got?

Unless we're talking about the difference between passing and not passing, weakening it once again to get a higher vote margin is just pandering to the insurance lobby at our expense.

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October 27, 2009 4:58 PM   

I am fine with negotiated rates. I think the House should go with a robust option though so they can be PULLED TO THE RIGHT and end up with negotiated rates.

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