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Ned Lamont, the man who made Joe Lieberman an Independent, said today that Democrats in Connecticut are fuming about Lieberman's public option posturing in the same way they were about the Iraq war back in 2006. That was the year Lamont soundly defeated Lieberman for the Democratic senate nomination, only to lose to him when Lieberman reentered the race as an Independent.

"National Democrats said [our race] was all about the war in Iraq," Lamont told TPMDC this morning. "They said that except for that, Joe was a good Democrat."

But with the health care vote and other matters, Lamont said, Lieberman has "not been working hard with Democrats to get universal health care as he promised. He's been sort of obstructionist."

In 2006, national Democrats figured prominently in the Connecticut senate race, but mostly on the side of Lieberman. During the primary, prominent Democrats, including Reid, encouraged Lamont not to run and stumped for Leiberman. Their claim was that Leiberman was a strong Democrat, despite his unpopular support for the war in Iraq.

Two years later, he was giving a speech at the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis on behalf of the GOP's presidential nominee, John McCain. Lieberman strongly endorsed McCain and was said to be his first choice for runningmate. Lamont said that Democrats in Connecticut haven't forgotten it, despite Liberman's causing with Democrats and his renewed promises to be a Democratic ally after McCain lost the '08 race.

"I would think so, yes," Lamont said when asked if Lieberman will face a strong challenge from his former party after his health care posturing.

For the record, Lamont said, had things gone differently in 2006, the Senator from Connecticut would not be standing in the way of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's health care reform proposal. Though he remains an advocate of universal coverage, he said that health care proponents "can't afford" to squander the chance at reform offered by Reid.

"Everybody would do things differently [if they were there,]" Lamont said, "But I think it's a big step forward. I would vote for it, yes."

As for the motivations behind Lieberman's threats to stop the Reid bill if it is not significantly changed, Lamont wouldn't speculate.

"Your guess is as good as mine," he said. "But I would have thought that after all that transpired in the last year, he would have shared his concerns in private, rather than making all the public pronouncements against the bill."

Correction: This post originally stated that President Obama stumped for Lieberman during the general election. That is false. Obama supported Lamont with at an email and public statements during the general. It is true that before and during Lamont's run in the primary, he was seen as running against the wishes of the establishment Democratic party.

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October 28, 2009 2:35 PM   

Actually, most Democrats, including Obama and Clinton, supported Lamont in the general election.

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October 28, 2009 2:37 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Wow, I thought you just omitted to mention that, but this part of the article is 100% false:

Instead most, including then-Senator Obama, stood on stage with Lieberman who told voters he'd be a strong Democratic ally if reelected as an independent.

Again, Obama (along with most Dems) supported Lamont when he won the nomination and opposed Lieberman's independent wrong.

What's happened to TPM's fact-checking? First the Chuck Todd nonsense, now this.

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October 28, 2009 2:38 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Independent wrong should be independent "run," but it really works both ways.

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October 28, 2009 2:51 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Very true. And didn't Obama let Uncle Joe keep his leadership?

So how long until Republicans start comparing Tea Baggers to the freedom loving protesters in Afghanistan also wanting their country back???

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October 28, 2009 5:18 PM    in reply to Chris

Obama has nothing to do with who keeps what chairs . He's not in the senate anymore. Also, and if Obama did support Lamont he wasn't President then and supported Lamont in his capacity as a senator

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October 28, 2009 5:03 PM    in reply to Stroszek

The myth that Obama campaigned for Lieberman in the general election is common among Hamsherites. Fits so neatly into their corporate-shill sellout narrative that there's no shaking it out of them. Great to see TPM add some Google fuel to it.

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October 28, 2009 5:28 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

It's like dealing with birthers.

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October 28, 2009 11:00 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

The only thing is that Obama didn't campaign very hard for Lamont. At one point, Obama had campaign stops in Boston and New York, with the better part of the day available for a stop-over in CT to attend a rally for Lamont. Lamont could have used the help in particular in the Norwalk-Bridgeport axis, which might have had the benefit of electing Dianne Farrell in her campaign against Chris Shays. Obama turned down the opportunity. The turnout in Stamford-Norwalk-Bridgeport was very low, which helped fuel Lieberman's margin in that area. Farrell lost as well, in part because of the low turnout. This sequence of events accounts for the persistent feeling that Obama didn't support Lamont in the general election.

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October 28, 2009 3:25 PM    in reply to Tom Betz

No, it is true. Obama endorsed Lamont for the general election. He did not advocate for electing Lieberman as an independent.

These are facts.

Lamont's campaign manager may have felt that Obama could have contributed more to Lamont's campaign, but that doesn't change the fact that Obama did endorse him and did oppose Lieberman's independent run.

Sorry, it doesn't matter if you felt Obama's support wasn't intense enough, you can't just change the facts. That is still lying.

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October 28, 2009 3:32 PM    in reply to Stroszek

You have a link, right, to where Obama endorsed Lamont?

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October 28, 2009 4:00 PM    in reply to wilsonjm2003

Hmmmmm . . . don't see the word "endorse" in there anywhere.

And don't reporters and editors inevitably use the word "endorse" in characterizing "endorsements?"

They certainly did when characterizing Lamont's support for Obama.

Where are the dozens, score, and hundreds of web references to Obama endorsing Lamont . . .

Still looking . . .

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October 28, 2009 5:15 PM    in reply to Dilirius

Don't be disingenuous:

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, a vocal defender of Sen. Joe Lieberman earlier this year, is urging Connecticut voters to rally behind his rival, Ned Lamont.

The Illinois senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate sent an e-mail message Thursday praising Lamont.

"Ned Lamont has waged an impressive grass-roots campaign to give the people of Connecticut a choice in the November Senate election," Obama wrote. "Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign."

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October 28, 2009 5:21 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Obama wasn't President when Lamont ran against Lieberman. That was in 2006. Obama was barely a senator himself so I can't imagine his endorsement at that time was so crucial. Obama had not even thought about (or admitted) he was running for President until late in 2007. Are you sure about all this?????

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October 28, 2009 3:38 PM    in reply to Tom Betz

You know, "Lamont endorses Obama" produces a lot of Google results showing Lamont endorsed Obama, but I can't seem to find a single Google result that shows Obama endorsing Lamont.

Must have not been much of an endorsement, if there even was one, if one has to work that hard to find it.

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October 28, 2009 5:32 PM    in reply to Dilirius

Refer to my posts below for your pwning.

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October 28, 2009 5:50 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Dilirius/Nobama is a self-pwning organism.

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October 28, 2009 3:42 PM    in reply to Tom Betz

"Obama opposes Lieberman" doesn't seem to produce anything either.

Maybe some folks just have different definitions for "support," "endorse," and "oppose" than other folks.

One thing is certainly true, fabricated definitions are as unacceptable as fabricated details.

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October 28, 2009 5:24 PM    in reply to Dilirius

Here is Ned Lamont's campaign highlighting Obama's support on their blog: http://web.archive.org/web/20061130061724/http://nedlamont.com/blog/1976/barack-obama-writes-emails

One thing is certainly true, fabricated definitions are as unacceptable as fabricated details.

Well, you've certainly made an ass of yourself.

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October 28, 2009 5:32 PM    in reply to Dilirius

Here is an article noting how Obama's PAC sent money to Lamont after Lieberman's defeat: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=2291430&page=1&page=1

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October 28, 2009 5:36 PM    in reply to Dilirius

Ah, I see from your profile that you are, in fact, Nobama posting under a new alias.

How's the PUMA movement going? Ever find that Whitey Tape?

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October 28, 2009 4:37 PM    in reply to Tom Betz

Lieberman won by 10 points. That's not "squeaking by".

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October 28, 2009 2:40 PM   

Nuance has not been a strongpoint around here of late.

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October 28, 2009 2:50 PM    in reply to Dorn76

Nuance I can live without, but fabricating details is unacceptable.

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October 28, 2009 2:45 PM   

FYI, here's the weakass response I got from Sen. Lieberman's office today...

Thank you for contacting me to express your opinion regarding health care reform efforts. I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me, and I want you to know that I hear and understand your concerns. Americans today are faced with great uncertainty about their health care coverage and insurance. These concerns focus around rising medical costs, access to coverage, and quality of care. With more than 45 million uninsured Americans and health care spending levels that exceed any in the world, our current health care system is unsustainable. Too often, we reward quantity over quality. The need for health care reform is clear. We must begin to provide Americans with the high-quality, affordable health care they need.

As you may know, various health plans have begun to emerge from both houses of Congress. These initial plans outline key objectives that President Obama has stressed as essential elements to any health care reform plan, including cost reduction, preventive care, health systems modernization, and long-term care and services.

I will continue to work with my colleagues and the Obama Administration on a bipartisan basis to resolve the remaining aspects that are key to reaching an agreement. A broad coalition is needed when addressing an issue as large, and as important for our nation's citizens, as health care reform. I do feel strongly that any health care reform legislation that I support must not only be budget neutral, but also reduce health care costs over the long term for individuals, groups, and businesses and for the federal government. That is the primary reason why I oppose a public option. It would be better to first sustain the long-term solvency of Medicare and Medicaid before creating a new government-run health insurance program.

I am hopeful that Senators on both sides of the aisle will come together to achieve meaningful health care reform that expands coverage, reduces costs, and improves the quality of care for everyone.

Please rest assured that I will continue to keep your concerns and suggestions in mind as the health care reform debate continues to play out and as we move forward on this important issue. I hope you will continue to visit my website at http://lieberman.senate.gov for updated news about my work on behalf of Connecticut and the nation. Please contact me if you have any additional questions or comments about our work in Congress.

Sincerely,


Joseph I. Lieberman
UNITED STATES SENATOR

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October 28, 2009 7:26 PM    in reply to Dorn76

Is it OK to say that Lieberman is just a dick. Is there some other word for such self-serving people?

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October 28, 2009 3:20 PM   

I'd be curious to know how much money Lieberman is getting from the health care industry.

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October 28, 2009 5:09 PM    in reply to Steve Garrett

His wife works for them.

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October 28, 2009 3:25 PM   

Nice job, Connecticut Voters. What part of "We told you so" did you not understand?

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October 28, 2009 3:29 PM    in reply to traitorjoe

I'm a CT voter, and though I voted for Lamont, I still hang my head in shame.

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October 28, 2009 4:57 PM    in reply to Dorn76

You shouldn't. Liebermann got elected by Connecticut Republicans, not Connecticut Democrats. Kicking him out of the party was the next best thing to kicking him out of the Senate, altogether.

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October 28, 2009 6:21 PM    in reply to agio

Still, it's embarrassing.

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October 28, 2009 3:58 PM   

The democrats blew it big time in 2006 with Lieberman. Because of senatorial courtesy or other reasons, (maybe they were afraid he'd caucus with the GOP if elected,) Lieberman was not punished for running as an independent and the support for Lamont was weak. They should have made it absolutely clear that he would not be welcome in the caucus should he run as an independent, sending CT voters the right message. But they were so hungry for the majority in 2006 (which was kind of useless, given how narrow it was, especially with Bush in the white house) that they went soft on Joe.

And now they're paying for it.

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October 28, 2009 5:07 PM    in reply to Stan A

Definitely. I appreciate they were trying to play nice and act inclusive, but with the way Lieberman has been behaving for many years now, they should have just cut him off at the first chance they had.

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October 28, 2009 4:16 PM   

Joe the Lieberman loves America! He is my favorite democrat!

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October 28, 2009 5:56 PM    in reply to The Decider

Thanks for weighing in, Decider!

=D

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October 28, 2009 4:23 PM   

A wonderful reminder of the great electorate of CT.

Sigh.

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October 28, 2009 6:31 PM    in reply to sherifffruitfly

Thankfully I never voted for the guy, but give us a break, we're not mind-readers. He flat-out lied. He supported the PO in a debate with Lamont in '06 and may I remind you he was the Dem VP nominee in '04. My fellow Nutmeggers may have unleashed this snake amongst you, but we aren't the only ones who have been taken in, and then kicked in the gut by Lieberman over the years.

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October 28, 2009 5:23 PM   

Lamont blew it. After he won in the primary, he did nothing but sit on his hands and that's how Joe got his momentum back.

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October 29, 2009 6:51 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

He sounds like a genius too ... at saying the obvious. Where did the DNC find this guy?

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October 29, 2009 10:00 AM    in reply to CharlesBrown

First, Lamont wasn't "found" by the DNC. In fact, if you knew anything at all about CT politics at the time, you would have known that the DNC did not want Lamont to challenge Lieberman at all. It was the CT Democratic party rabble (I use that word - and proudly too I might say - because the CT party apparatchiks didn't want him to run) who supported Lamont's campaign. After the primary, the party apparatus persuaded Lamont to stand down while they tried to talk Lieberman into not pursuing an independent run. They failed, the media in CT savaged Lamont for the next two months and the national party did nada, zip, zilch to try to help Lamont regain any momentum. I know because I was there volunteering for the campaign on the ground.

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October 29, 2009 1:20 PM    in reply to BohemianBill

The CT Democratic Party did a pretty shameful job at not encouraging democracy in their own state.

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October 29, 2009 1:02 AM   

Joe is a douchebag and will get what he deserves next election. We are done with him.

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