The concept that reform will reduce the deficit is one that the average American educated in the forty year trainwreck that is our public educational system cannot get his or her head around without help. People are always screamin' that Obama needs to do this or needs to do that, and they're almost always wrong in my virtually meaningless opinion, but providing that help is one thing the guy with the bully pulpit is uniquely suited to do.

It is the biggest problem we have with left getting buy-in from the indies.

Thus in short Luntz is telling Republicans to continue with Lies and Fear mongering.

The (Republicans, Conservatives, Southern Racists, etc.) know that Obamacare is going to pass and that will make President Obama one the biggest Presidents in history because the term "Obamacare" will stick and Americans will forever associate him with there loved one's healthcare.

What I've long noticed about Luntz is he sees nothign wrong with what he does. It seems to me that when he talks to a liberal audience, he tells the truth about political strategy. That strategy, however, can include lies. So he's not saying the things he tells Republicans to say are true, but that those lies will work. He tells the truth about what lies should be told.

I'm actually glad he's not on our side, because he might talk Democrats into telling ridiculous lies and we'd be where the Republicans are right now.

Luntz is laughing all the way to the bank, but he's still a craven slug.

I really like this TPM feature, with its brilliantly simple formula: throw em a bone, sit back and read the repetitive whining and bitching. Works without fail (although a smallish group of whiners is clearly setting the tone).

Perhaps TPM Whine-Fest is a better name for it than TPMDC. And it's way more consistent than the Cafe; you do find occasional piece of serious thinking there.