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Poll: Specter Barely Leads Sestak In Dem Primary

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The new Rasmussen poll of Pennsylvania finds Sen. Arlen Specter just barely ahead of his Democratic primary challenger, Rep. Joe Sestak.

The numbers: Specter 46%, Sestak 42%, with a ±3% margin of error. In early August, Specter had been ahead by 47%-34%. Sestak has been challenging Specter -- who switched form the Republicans to the Democrats in order to avoid certain defeat in the GOP primary -- on the grounds that he's not a real Democrat, and both of them have been moving noticeably to the left (though Specter has logically taken a greater journey, given his starting point as a moderate Republican).

In the general election match-ups, Republican former Rep. Pat Toomey leads Specter by 45%-40%, while Sestak edges out Toomey 38%-37%, with a ±3% margin of error.

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October 15, 2009 10:28 AM   

This sounds closer than reality. Other polls have a much bigger spread. Also, Sestak's name recognition cannot be that high. I wish this were accurate, as I am a big Sestak supporter. However, I think this poll might better reflect Scott Rassmussen's assessment of who would be an easier opponent for Pat Toomey than the reality.

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October 15, 2009 11:46 AM    in reply to El Puerco

Perhaps, but remember that PA is a closed primary and that primary voters tend to be the party faithful. That may help Sestak even though Specter has formal support from the party bigwigs like Rendell. Sestak has been working very hard below the radar to court the county-level party machinery across the Commonwealth, which could help him considerably on primary day when county party "sample ballots" are handed out at polling places.

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October 15, 2009 10:36 AM   

This poll sounds suspect. I don't trust Rassmussen. Although if I lived in the PA I'd take my chances with Sestak

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October 15, 2009 1:10 PM    in reply to shevas01

I was born and raised in PA, but don't live there anymore. I'm donating to Sestak. I think once the real campaigning starts and people get to know him better, he'll defeat Specter.

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October 15, 2009 10:39 AM   

Ras is playing favorites here. I still think Sestak with machine backing would be unbeatable, but the Obama Administration, the DSCC and the Rendell Machine are all in for Specter.

I think the Dems might be making a huge mistake here and in Florida and the GOP Caucus could add Toomey and Rubio come 2010.

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October 15, 2009 10:56 AM    in reply to Walter Mitty

If Sestak wins the primary, don't you think the Obama Administration, the DSCC and the Rendell Machine will be all in for Sestak? I'm amazed at how frequently you find concern where there are clear reasons for encouragement. Sestak, with low name recognition, is clearly building a brand and mounting a serious challenge to the well-backed Specter candidacy. That's a good thing regardless of who wins the primary, but if Sestak can pull it off, that only serves to strengthen him in the general.

And what mistake are the Dems making in Florida? I haven't seen anything that would give me the impression that Rubio is going to thump Crist, so I don't really see where there's room for a huge mistake that involves Rubio coming to Washington. Who else is challenging Meek? If there's a better candidate, let that person run and let the primary voters decide.

I see the handwringing, I just can't trace it back to its source...

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October 15, 2009 11:13 AM    in reply to ondioline

I see the handwringing, I just can't trace it back to its source...

Here's a hint.

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October 15, 2009 11:40 AM    in reply to ondioline

The Obama and Rendell Machines will be enough for Specter to beat Sestak in the primary. And Toomey could beat Specter come the general.

Looking to Florida, Rubio is closing the gap on Crist and has some power players backing him. Looking at Meek - he has never faced an election challenger in the four elections since he took over his mothers safe seat when she retired. Either the Dems have a weak bench, or the big names are sitting out because they think Crist is a lock for the GOP nomination and the senate seat.

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October 15, 2009 10:43 AM   

What I don't understand is - why does a 79 year old man who has no discernable political principles and has already served 28 years in the Senate care so much about getting another term that he is willing to do ANYTHING to get re-elected.

Surely he doesn't need the money - he could probably make more out of office. Isn't his resume strong enough already? He's got plenty to go on his gravestone. Why are these people so addicted to their political sinecures?

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October 15, 2009 11:14 AM    in reply to Virginia

Exactly! And that question applies accross party and philisophical lines. Most of these geezers don't need the money.... Is it a matter of they cannot stand to be out of the limelight, or out of "power" if they retired?

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October 15, 2009 6:16 PM    in reply to Virginia

Virginia,

he's been there so long that's all he knows.

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October 15, 2009 11:01 AM   

People don't like party switchers. And Arlen Specter's been around forever. While these numbers seem suspiciously close, I'm not all that surprised.

I just wish some Birther-Deather-Republican would run against Toomey and force Toomey way to the right during the primary season.

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October 15, 2009 11:05 AM   

This is excellent news. Specter simply cannot be trusted---it's time to end him once and for all.

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October 15, 2009 11:41 AM   

Oh come on TPM, you know better than to trumpet a single poll, a year otu from an election. And from Rasmussen? Gosh, could they have any agenda here?

How accurate were the polls in 2007? Nice how that Guiliani vs. Hillary election worked out.

I think there is a lot of HCR noise right now.I'd like to see numbers once this contentious debate settles down.

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October 15, 2009 11:48 AM   

TPM should not publish a single Foxmussen poll, ever, without linking to a detailed disclaimer article showing the history of Foxmussen polling and its rather poor record of reflecting reality.

To do otherwise is wasting our time and wasting TPM resources in efforts which will inevitably mislead TPM readers—and serve Foxmussen's interests and the interests of its patrons.

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October 15, 2009 2:46 PM    in reply to jfields

AMEN! JUST LIKE POSTING A FIXED NEWS POLL.

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October 15, 2009 11:48 AM   

When you switch for votes........are you really anything at all?
Look at how faithful good'ol joe leaderboard has become.
Jokers. Full deck of jokers and wild cards.
All paid for by mic and mic.
Total joke.
Somebody pull the plug!

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October 15, 2009 11:53 AM   

Don't ever quote Rasmussen and act like its credible. Evidence of their bias is easy to find. For example, take a look at this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

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October 15, 2009 12:32 PM   

It is very early and Sestak has a lot of time to become better known in PA. His resume is extremely impressive which should be a big asset to him. Spectar is likely to turn off a lot DEMs despite his backing from the Party because his becoming a DEM was so transparently phony and self-serving. Frankly, Obama, Rendall and the DSCC heavily backing Spectar is a sleazy political move that reflects badly on the integrity of the Party.

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October 15, 2009 12:45 PM   

"The new Rasmussen poll of Pennsylvania finds Sen. Arlen Specter just barely ahead of his Democratic primary challenger, Rep. Joe Sestak.

The numbers: Specter 46%, Sestak 42%, with a ±3% margin of error."

Ummm, that means the new Rasmussen poll found them *statistically tied.*

The published MOE is the MOE **of each estimate**, not the MOE **of a difference**.

If the estimates are independent (which they're not, here), the MOE of the difference would be roughly (square root of 2)*(MOE of each estimate). But if they're strongly negatively correlated (i.e. when one goes up, the other goes down, which is the case here), then the MOE of the difference is nearly double the MOE of the estimate.

So we're looking at an MOE of the difference of ~5%. In the Rasmussen sample, Specter leads by 4%. So we don't know who's ahead in the population as a whole, based on this sample.

Why pollsters never explain this stuff, I have no idea.

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October 15, 2009 2:19 PM   

Well, if he loses he can always pull a Lieberman and run as an Independent.

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October 15, 2009 2:45 PM   

ANYTHING REPUBLICAN STINKS. DIRTY FILTY SPECTICLE.

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October 15, 2009 4:45 PM   

Go Joe Go!

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