In the immediate wake of President Obama being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, a lot of right-wingers have simply gone nuts over it.
To be very clear, we're not talking about any old criticism or disagreement. Reasonable people can believe this award was not deserved and that Obama has not at this time demonstrated the true accomplishments required. (Unreasonable people can do it, too -- Glenn Beck's got a pretty good joke about it.) We're talking about real over the top invective.
Bill Kristol likens Obama receiving the prize to Mikhail Gorbachev, the former leader of the Soviet Union -- except that Kristol thinks the Communist leader was more impressive:
Mikhail Gorbachev won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1990. A year later, he was out of power and the Soviet Union had dissolved.
I don't mean to compare Barack Obama to Gorbachev, who was, whatever his faults, a truly historic and courageous figure. But let's hope the parallel extends this far: that a year from now the Democrats suffer a major electoral repudiation, and that the New Liberalism goes the way of Reform Communism. And that, beginning in 2013, Obama will have lots of free time to spend hobnobbing with Gorbachev on the international celebrity circuit.
Kristol also suggested that a different American get it: "We could note that, if the Norwegians wanted to give the Nobel Peace Prize to an American, it would have been been better to give it to Sen. John McCain for having the guts to push through the surge in Iraq, which has brought relative peace to that country. But that would be overkill." If you buy into the theory that this award is really a celebration of George W. Bush and his policies being gone from the international sphere, then Kristol has really missed the boat.
Rep. Gresham Barrett (R-SC) had this to say: "Congratulations to President Obama on his prize. I'm not sure what the international community loved best; his waffling on Afghanistan, pulling defense missiles out of Eastern Europe, turning his back on freedom fighters in Honduras, coddling Castro, siding with Palestinians against Israel, or almost getting tough on Iran. The world may love it, but following in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter is not where America needs to go. Hopefully, this surprise award will give the President cause to reevaluate his current course."
Rush Limbaugh declared: "They love a weakened, neutered U.S and this is their way of promoting that concept. I think God has a great sense of humor, too."
Michael Goldfarb fired back at the DNC for saying that the Republican Party had thrown in its lot with the terrorists in opposing the award: "It's not Republicans that are throwing their lot in with terrorists -- it's the White House."
Mona Charen says Obama is now in the company of Yasser Arafat: "Here is a list of Nobel Peace Prize winners since 1980. There are some worthy recipients -- Lech Walesa, Shirin Ebadi, Mohammed Yunus. But most Nobel Peace Peace prizes go to conventional left-wing types popular with European elites -- Kofi Annan, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Mikhail Gorbachev. Before they break out the champagne at the White House, they may want to pause over the fact that Obama now shares this honor with Mohammed el-Baradei, Yasser Arafat, and flagrant liar Rigoberta Menchu Tum."
Hugh Hewitt calls on Obama to think of this award and send more troops to Afghanistan, rather than listen to his advisers who want to appease the Taliban:
Now as he nears a critical decision on whether or not to provide the troops his commander in the theater is pressing for even as appeasers in his inner circle council appeasement of the Taliban, he is awarded the world's most prestigious prize.
Hope and pray that the award puts some steel in his spine and impresses on him the prospect of looking at his medal through the years if as a consequence of his decisions in the next few weeks, another many generations of Afghan women are condemned to remain in their burqas without benefit of education or medical care even as their husbands plot unmolested to strike America again.
Erick Erickson decided that the intuitive attacks on the award (European wimps, Obama hasn't accomplished anything, etc.) just weren't good enough for him, and gave a racial angle to the whole thing: "I did not realize the Nobel Peace Prize had an affirmative action quota for it, but that is the only thing I can think of for this news. There is no way Barack Obama earned it in the nominations period."
Last and certainly not least, Andy McCarthy has possibly the most overheated response out there, declaring that the award is, on its face, a trophy of anti-Americanism -- and Obama has earned it:
I'm not all for Americans winning international prizes, especially the Nobel Peace Prize. In fact, I'm vigorously against it. The transnational progressives who pass out these accolades believe America is the problem in the world, the main threat to peace, the impediment to "progress," etc. The award is a symbolic statement of opposition to American exceptionalism, American might, American capitalism, American self-determinism, and American pursuit of America's interests in the world. That is why Obama could win it based on only ten days in office -- merely by capturing the White House and the levers of power, he stands to do more for the Left's "knock America off its pedestal" program than any figure in history.
After a number of years, the NFL renamed its Super Bowl trophy after its most fitting recipient -- it's now called the Vince Lombardi Trophy. I'd like to see the Nobel Foundation follow suit. If today's headlines said, "Barack Obama Wins Yasser Arafat Prize," that would be perfect.
VivaAmerica!
October 9, 2009 12:48 PM
More of this please. The Hateration makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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3star2nr
October 9, 2009 1:38 PM in reply to VivaAmerica!
I FUCKING LOVE THIS
Achievement Unlocked: Conservatives Obliterated
Cheer up guys at least the Taliban agrees with you on this point
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JNagarya
October 9, 2009 6:04 PM in reply to 3star2nr
Rush Limbaugh declared: "They love a weakened, neutered U.S and this is their way of promoting that concept. I think God has a great sense of humor, too."
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That comment from war hero Butt Boil causes me to fall silent long enough to remove my hat and place it over my heart.
Oops -- I'm not wearing a hat.
And as for his "thinking": not if he believes he knows the nature of Hypothetical-Called-God, and can guage at what Hypo.-Called-God considers a joke. As I recall, Hypo.'s Son is called Prince of Peace.
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wattpuppy
October 9, 2009 7:25 PM in reply to 3star2nr
Enjoy your cool-aide. Your country has been cheapened yet again by this affirmative action president.
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sagesource
October 9, 2009 8:22 PM in reply to wattpuppy
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Damn, he's having you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Must suck to be shown up as a petty ass in front of the whole world, eh?
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AhTrini1
October 10, 2009 11:29 PM in reply to 3star2nr
Anything that gets the hatetriots' panties in a tizzy works for moi....
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Chris
October 9, 2009 4:11 PM in reply to VivaAmerica!
They all can suck my truck nuts.
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Overreach THIS!
October 9, 2009 12:48 PM
Woodrow Wilson won, and guess what?
Now he's DEAD!!
EVEN WORSE THAN BUFFOON GORBACHEV! How about that?!
Ah, it's funny to see these public enemies squirming as historians continue to methodically pen their legacy of cataclysmic failure! =D
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Indie Pro
October 9, 2009 12:49 PM
this should be the story in the MSM. The disgrace that these people bring us.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
October 9, 2009 12:52 PM in reply to Indie Pro
Can't. They're too busy contributing to it.
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jerryfatheart
October 9, 2009 12:50 PM
All I have to say is:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha.
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Minne sconsin
October 9, 2009 1:01 PM in reply to jerryfatheart
MWAAHAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAA (SNORT)
I'm with ya. These exploding heads are just too much.
An American has just won the Nobel Prize. Why do conservatives hate America?
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kenga
October 9, 2009 1:16 PM in reply to Minne sconsin
Has any other sitting US President won a Nobel, or another even remotely as prestigious?
I'd like to know when Obama was put into consideration and why ... was it around the time of the Security Council meeting?
The one that he gaveled to order, as the first US President to actually sit at such a meeting?
And then proceeded to talk up not non-proliferation, but total nuclear disarmament? (At a fucking UN Security Council meeting? Jeanne Kirkpatrick and John Bolton must be damn-near apoplectic.) It occurs to me that that would fit pretty well under the "Peace" rubric contained in the prize's title.
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CT Voter
October 9, 2009 1:20 PM in reply to kenga
I believe Wilson was still president when he won, although I'm not sure.
In any event, he was nominated very early in his presidency. But the deliberations probably were helped by the UN activity.
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BlindBat
October 9, 2009 1:34 PM in reply to CT Voter
Yes, Wilson was in office at the time, as was Theodore Roosevelt when it was awarded to him.
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CT Voter
October 9, 2009 1:35 PM in reply to CT Voter
And I should clarify the "very early" part: I think it was only a couple of weeks after having been inaugurated...
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Redwood Rhiadra
October 9, 2009 1:30 PM in reply to kenga
Obama is the *third* sitting President to win the Peace Prize, after Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
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whiterosebuddy
October 10, 2009 12:53 AM in reply to kenga
You are absolutely precisely correct. The NobelPeacePrize committee..sends out invites to the nominators in one year prior to announcing the award..so last Sept the invites were sent out. In Feb the nominations closed. However, the vote occurs in Sept.
On Sept24 President Obama was the first American President to chair the UN Security Council. His leadership resuled in an unanimous resolution on nuclear disarment by all 15 world leaders. This was an astonishing and significant global achievement...Noted by the rest of the world but not America.
The rest of the world knew how significant this was. President Obama's administration was just nine months old..yet he brokered this resolution and negotiated unanimity.
Unheard of.
But all the US Press focused on was Moamar Quaddfi..and how he gave such a long rambling speech, they speculated on whether President Obama would have to sit near him..and they focused on Quaddfi welcoming the Lockerbie Bomber to Libya.
Never once did the American press laud our own President for his significant global achievement.
The rest of the world was watching...they understood that it was a historical shift from confrontation and conflict to collaboration and cooperation between nations of the world.
So, all we are treated to on the day the sitting President wins the most prestitious award in the world...is how it is an albatross? How he should turn it down?
Unbelievable.
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kenner
October 10, 2009 5:02 AM in reply to whiterosebuddy
Thank you.
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wattpuppy
October 9, 2009 7:28 PM in reply to Minne sconsin
We don't hate America. We just don't love the european image of what America should be, nimrod.
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sagesource
October 9, 2009 8:25 PM in reply to wattpuppy
If it's only Europeans, you should have no difficulty winning every election. As far as I can recall, Europeans can't vote for an American president.
But keep trying. You amuse us.
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Stroszek
October 9, 2009 12:52 PM
Right wingers? What about the traditional media?
What about David "This is a liberal award" Gregory?
What about Chip "Why didn't Reagan win?" Reid?
What about Jake "I guess ASU has higher standards" Tapper?
What about Brian "This is bizarre" Williams?
Frankly, I'm surprised how sloppy they've been in restraining their personal biases. It's a testament to how pissed they truly are.
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CT Voter
October 9, 2009 12:57 PM in reply to Stroszek
NPR was pretty skeptical this morning, as well.
Liberal media, my ass.
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kenga
October 9, 2009 1:22 PM in reply to CT Voter
Nice Polite Republicans ?
That train left the station circa 1996.
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gdunn45
October 9, 2009 2:35 PM in reply to kenga
I have to disagree with you on Public Radio. It left shortly after Reagan was elected in 1980. The Reagan Administration didn't like its "biases" (reporting factual stories) and threatened and did cut funding. NPR (which I call National Propaganda Radio)understand and started promoting the right wing meme back then.
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dpabowen
October 9, 2009 1:41 PM in reply to CT Voter
You all are are making the mistake of conflating Obama and liberalism as if they are indelibly intertwined. They are not. I am a liberal, and I support Obama because he most closely represents my beliefs. This award strikes me as absurd at this point, since he hasn't really done much at this point to advance peace.
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UTMark
October 9, 2009 1:53 PM in reply to dpabowen
So I'm thinking Obama's Nobel Peace Prize was really a meant to be shared by the American voting public. Perhaps for this year it should really be named the 2009 "Given All the Daunting and Frightening Problems the World Faces
We Are Just Beside Ourselves With Relief That George W. Bush Is Gone and You Idiot Americans Elected a Reasonable, Intelligent, and Pragmatic Guy Rather Than Another Arrogant, Clueless Disaster-Mongering Jerkwad As Your President" award.
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SchrodingersCat
October 9, 2009 3:06 PM in reply to UTMark
Totally agree. That was my first reaction when I heard the news.
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bluesplashy
October 9, 2009 9:48 PM in reply to UTMark
Yep.
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AhTrini1
October 10, 2009 11:37 PM in reply to UTMark
LMAO
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CT Voter
October 9, 2009 1:56 PM in reply to dpabowen
Um, I'm not conflating the "liberal" in "liberal media" with Obama at all.
Were Obama to be awarded this three years from now, NPR would still couch the story in terms of why that's a problem for Obama. Same with any other MSM source.
Equivalent to the New York Times story last year about why increased majorities in Congress pose a risk for Democrats. Were it Republicans contemplating that state of affairs, the story would have been about all that Republicans were anticipating on doing with those increase majorities.
The default position in MSM is essentially that Republicans are the norm, and anything the Dems do is an aberration.
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UTMark
October 9, 2009 2:13 PM in reply to CT Voter
Agreed.
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commie atheist
October 9, 2009 12:58 PM in reply to Stroszek
Ah yes, the "so-called liberal media," totally in the bag for their "boy," Obama. May they all be found dead in hotel rooms wearing multiple wet suits, with dildos up their butts.
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fbacon2
October 9, 2009 2:17 PM in reply to Stroszek
My first reaction to all the commentary--right, left, and mainstream establishment--was that we quickly forget how much Obama's presence on the national and world stage has rattled everybody's view of the world. Remembering Obama's highlights, from his victory in Iowa, to his election and inauguration, to his first speech before Congress, he moves deliberately and slowly, but has breakout moments that send seismic vibrations around the political universe.
He challenges people to reexamine old assumptions and their standards of behavior. The chaos we've seen in response from the opposition is a direct result of the pull of gravity from Obama. These are times of great potential and great peril, and it's hard for folks like network news anchors to process.
Remember, his code name is Renegade.
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TaraV
October 9, 2009 2:35 PM in reply to fbacon2
Very well made point.
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sagesource
October 9, 2009 8:30 PM in reply to fbacon2
Shorter fbacon2: the adults are back in charge. Just in time, too.
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TaraV
October 9, 2009 2:33 PM in reply to Stroszek
I actually liked the Tapper joke...I took it to mean that ASU was stupid not that they were right.
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fbacon2
October 9, 2009 2:41 PM in reply to TaraV
I took it the opposite way. Tapper relishes the petty--a typical Beltway symptom.
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JNagarya
October 9, 2009 6:08 PM in reply to Stroszek
Bloody-handed keep-the-war-going-for-electoral-purposes Kissinger was a Liberal?
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JNagarya
October 9, 2009 6:13 PM in reply to JNagarya
Gorbachev was a Liberal?
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LBJs Brain
October 9, 2009 12:57 PM
Wait, McCain was gracious. Why does McCain hate America?
Seriously, how *dare* the rest of the world see things differently than us. They must not be human.
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chthonic
October 9, 2009 12:58 PM
Wait; what? "Right wingers have gone nuts over it"? Oh, I see; it's an infinite regress. Pass the popcorn, please.
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Dave Bowman
October 9, 2009 12:59 PM
Eric, you forgot to include that Taliban's response. It fits right in with these America-hating assclowns.
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Minne sconsin
October 9, 2009 1:02 PM in reply to Dave Bowman
Yeah. Let's get the Taliban included in this list. And make sure to include a picture of their spokesperson. In fact, I want to see it right next to Billy Kristol's picture.
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Overreach THIS!
October 9, 2009 3:19 PM in reply to Minne sconsin
Optimal would be to arrange a joint Taliban-Kristol statement, of course.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
October 9, 2009 1:01 PM
My response, in the exact order it occurred to me, in the first five seconds after I saw it on Kos this morning:
1. "WTF? Is this a joke about how crazy it would drive the wingnuts if it happened?"
2. "No, wait, it's true. WTF? This has to be seen as a major bitchslap at Bush-Cheney, pure and simple."
3. "Holy crap! Coming after their glee over our loss of the 2016 Olympics, The wingnuts are going to go crazier than a bunch of angry, scared shit-flinging monkeys!"
4. "Wait, they gave it to Gore in '07. Wow, this is a major bitchslap at Bush, Cheney and everything the Neocon nuts stood for."
5. "Holy crap! The wingnuts are going to go absolutely batshit mouth-foaming, carpet-chewing, aneurism-bursting crazy!"
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Minne sconsin
October 9, 2009 1:05 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
You're much quicker than I. I saw it on my email from CNN and it took me five minutes to get past "WTF?" in your number 1.
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slb
October 9, 2009 3:39 PM in reply to Minne sconsin
I have my bedside clock set so that the radio comes on 30 minutes before the alarm actually goes off, mostly because I hate to be jangled awake by an alarm, and having the radio come on starts waking me up slowly, so that I'm usually almost completely awake before the alarm actually sounds. But that means that I hear a lot of the morning news when I'm half asleep, and sometimes in that state I tend to conflate stories into rather bizzare near-dreams.
And that's what I thought it was when I first became conscious of this story, that I had heard the Nobel Peace Prize announcement just before or just after a news story about Obama and had conflated them. When I realized that no, I had indeed understood the story correctly, my next thought was, "Wait, is it April 1st?" because NPR will usually slip in a bogus story on April Fool's Day, and I have become reflexively skeptical of stories that seem to come out of the blue.
It took me a while to take in that no, Obama really had won the Nobel Peace Prize. I was happy for the endorsement that the Nobel Committee was giving to Obama's ideas and the current direction of American foreign policy, but my next thought was, "Wow, this is really a big burden for a sitting president to carry." Imagine trying to make a decision about troop levels in Afghanistan with the rest of the world expecting you to be Mahatma Ghandi.
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VivaAmerica!
October 9, 2009 2:51 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
I saw the announcement on my local news and had to re-read the heading over and over and very slowly to make sure I was catching every word.
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MooseShady
October 9, 2009 6:20 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
5. "Holy crap! The wingnuts are going to go absolutely batshit mouth-foaming, carpet-chewing, aneurism-bursting crazy!"
Sound like came out of a Daffy Duck cartoon when Hitler went ape-shit and he chew on the carpet. Man you can't make this shit up!
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Clavis
October 9, 2009 1:05 PM
Republicans are assholes.
Situations like this simply make it easier to notice that they're assholes.
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UTMark
October 9, 2009 1:56 PM in reply to Clavis
And it's already so, so, so easy to notice.
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JNagarya
October 9, 2009 6:18 PM in reply to UTMark
That's because they never miss a situa -- opportunity to reveal themselves as being assholes. And not merely assholes:
PROFESSIONAL assholes.
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wattpuppy
October 9, 2009 7:33 PM in reply to Clavis
And you are an ass clown. Isn't this productive?
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Savannah Evans
October 9, 2009 1:06 PM
Your modern GOP: Got hate?
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CT Voter
October 9, 2009 1:09 PM in reply to Savannah Evans
Sweet!
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RedMolly
October 9, 2009 2:55 PM in reply to CT Voter
Yes, I'd like that on a t-shirt, with a picture of Limbaugh. (Not that I would wear anything with a picture of Limbaugh...)
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The Old Grouch
October 9, 2009 1:13 PM
I love it when Republicans are angry and frustrated. They prove yet again - as though it is necessary - that they truly hate America and Americans, other than the uber-wealthy and their corporate chums.
These people are insane, and evil, too. It does my heart good to see them suffer.
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UTMark
October 9, 2009 1:58 PM in reply to The Old Grouch
Mine too.
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NobleCommentDecider
October 9, 2009 2:58 PM in reply to The Old Grouch
The Uber-Wealthy need wars to get even more wealthy! Where are the no-bid contracts and the profit in peace and international cooperation?
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Doofus
October 9, 2009 1:14 PM
Participate in this WaPo poll: http://views.washingtonpost.com/post-user-polls/2009/10/obamas-nobel-prize.html?hpid=talkbox1
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lousgirl84
October 9, 2009 1:35 PM in reply to Doofus
Done. So far the Nays are winning
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Powkat
October 9, 2009 3:42 PM in reply to Doofus
Done. From the comments page it seems that not only famous right wingers are frothing at the mouth. Does my heart good, it does.
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Lestatdelc
October 9, 2009 1:16 PM
Did you hear about the new Obama t-shirt?
“I went to Scandinavia to win the Olympics for Chicago, and all I got was this lousy Nobel Peace Prize!” ;-)
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screaminmeme
October 9, 2009 1:38 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
Very good. I'll take 200 million in assorted sizes, please.
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SleepinJeezus
October 10, 2009 12:58 PM in reply to screaminmeme
Can I present the first t-shirt to Rush, please? He IS our "21st Century Schizoid Man, no?" (Love the avatar!)
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Spider
October 9, 2009 1:17 PM
Right-wing response = Kanye West. What a world!
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traitorjoe
October 9, 2009 1:19 PM
Did we complain when Bush won the Nuremberg Award for War?
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JNagarya
October 9, 2009 6:22 PM in reply to traitorjoe
You left out "Crimes" --
Nuremberg Award for War Crimes.
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JEP07
October 10, 2009 2:16 AM in reply to JNagarya
So, I s'pose the wingnuts will want to charge Obama with "peace crimes?"
I think Peace is illegal in some red states...
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GTFOOH
October 9, 2009 1:22 PM
Now there's a group of people you do not want to be stuck in an elevator with!
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traitorjoe
October 9, 2009 1:23 PM in reply to GTFOOH
You don't want to be between them and the buffet line either.
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GTFOOH
October 9, 2009 2:39 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Now, now! Don't you know Republicans are sensitive to fat jokes? Haven't you been watching how Christie is crying foul, because Corzine talked about him throwing his weight around? Like nobody will notice that fat bastard is calorically challenged!
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jolly ranchero
October 9, 2009 1:22 PM
You guys probably didnt know this, but winning the NPP was the worst thing that could have happened to Obama. Time tells me so.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1929395,00.html
Unfreakinbelievable.
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franzi
October 9, 2009 1:23 PM
Wait, so their rationale is:
1. This is a worthless prize anyways.
2. This is a lefty, worthless prize.
3. It's a disgrace to America and a symbol of surrender!
4. Reagan should have won it!!!!
How can they talk out of both sides of their mouths on this?
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CT Voter
October 9, 2009 1:34 PM in reply to franzi
And John McCain, too!
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lousgirl84
October 9, 2009 1:50 PM in reply to franzi
Fucking amazing isn't it? I'm with you! Confounding!!!
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UTMark
October 9, 2009 2:00 PM in reply to franzi
Umm, it's not their mouths they're talking out of.
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mikedrevguy
October 10, 2009 11:38 AM in reply to franzi
'How can they speak out of both sides of their mouth?'
have you not been paying much attention to the news over the past, oh, 20+ years?
but I have to agree - the ability to not only hold but carry on two opposingly contradictory conversations without batting an eye or in any way balking is, well, strikingly miraculous. Almost as miraculous as feeding the 5000 from only a few loaves and fish (or is it fishes?) - for which, mind you, the modern Nobel Prize academy would likely award a prize - which would just as likely have garnered an equally outrageous "Holy crap! The wingnuts are going to go absolutely batshit mouth-foaming, carpet-chewing, aneurism-bursting crazy!"
Annas and Caiaphas had similar response back in the day. (mind you only making comparison of reactions, not in anyway casting messianic aspirations upon one BHO- just setting THAT record straight. )
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nfbloch
October 9, 2009 1:23 PM
Watching them freak out has just made my day. If they're not careful their heads will explode, some may suffer heart attacks at this rate. Oh what a wonderful, wonderful shot at the neoCONS!
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RadioNumber
October 9, 2009 1:25 PM
When Chicago lost the bid for the Olympics, Rush quickly said that this was the world rejecting Obama. The Nobel prize could be seen as a commendation from the global community. Even though to point out the contradictions of the right wing lunatic fringe is an exercise in futility, I, none the less find it indicative of our absurdest media culture grasping at ideological phantoms.
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LeeJo
October 9, 2009 1:26 PM
Why does the right hate the United States? Last week they cheered an American loss when Chicago lost their Olympics bid. This week they are whining and whimpering while they beg for failure in American policy. Then to top it off this week they are complaining about an American win. The Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to our President and they complain. Why do they hate the United States?
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Reefdancer
October 9, 2009 1:28 PM
What a bunch of douchebags
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SleepinJeezus
October 9, 2009 1:29 PM
Can't wait to hear Dick Cheney's response. Shoulders hunched. Grave voice. Jowls set. Letting us know that the latest intelligence estimate warned that Obama would get the Nobel Prize, and that we must now be concerned that it may result in a terrorist striking somewhere in the US because of it. He closes by demanding Norway be added to the Axis of Evil and also calls for the extraordinary rendition of the next Norwegian passerby outside the U.S. Embassy in Oslo.
I was amazed to learn the news this morning about the prize, but was pleased to read the comments from the Nobel committee and understood their intent and justification. It IS their award to give, after all, and sometimes clearing an oppressive and long term stink from a scene is a pretty good foundation upon which to celebrate a change for the future.
It is now Obama's responsibility to live up to the words and the promise of his candidacy by realizing them as the policy of the "post neo-con" United States of America, and let Bill Kristol and the others be damned.
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seashell
October 9, 2009 1:39 PM in reply to SleepinJeezus
Actually, SJ, Cheney is trying to decide whether to invade Kenya or Hawaii. Or both.
:-)
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SleepinJeezus
October 9, 2009 2:09 PM in reply to seashell
Truthfully, seashell, my biggest fear regarding this man is that his incredibly malignant legacy remains unchallenged by either the POTUS or Congress to any effective degree. No Hearings. No Reports. No accounting for the extra-Constitutional activities that were undertaken and no community sense of outrage establishing that these are aberrations; that these are not acceptable practices; that, in fact, Cheney and Co. are conspirators in a criminal enterprise that is engaged in undermining our Constitution and our closest-held principles.
And so his legacy lays like a tumor within the body politic, and it threatens to metastasize through the introduction of his demon spawn Liz into the U.S. Senate where she can continue redefining what it is to be a "patriot" in these United States while providing encouragement to the whacko right wing of the GOP.
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LeeJo
October 9, 2009 1:29 PM
Why does the right hate the United States? Last week they cheered an American loss when Chicago lost their Olympics bid. This week they are whining and whimpering while they beg for failure in American policy. Then to top it off this week they are complaining about an American win. The Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to our President and they complain. Why do they hate the United States?
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_jonny_5_
October 9, 2009 1:30 PM
"After a number of years, the NFL renamed its Super Bowl trophy after its most fitting recipient -- it's now called the Vince Lombardi Trophy. I'd like to see the Nobel Foundation follow suit. If today's headlines said, "Barack Obama Wins Yasser Arafat Prize," that would be perfect." -Andy McCarthy
So Arafat was the most Fitting Recipient?
I Guess the DNC statement wasn't that over the top at all was it?
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_jonny_5_
October 9, 2009 1:34 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
So according to McCarthy, Araftat beats out MLK and Mother Theresa....
What a Class act.
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UTMark
October 9, 2009 3:32 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Yes, what an Ass hat.
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traitorjoe
October 9, 2009 1:37 PM
When Independents are on the fence and close the curtain on the voting booth, please let them consider the Right's actions today. Please.
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DBB
October 9, 2009 1:41 PM
Who cares what a bunch of old white guys (and gals, though Mona C looks kind of ambiguous) think? Stop assuming that pundits are experts in anything...
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traitorjoe
October 9, 2009 1:42 PM in reply to DBB
Give them some credit, these pundits were right about Iraq planning the 9-11 attacks with Al Qaeda, weren't they? They said the war would be over in 6 days or 6 weeks, tops.
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SleepinJeezus
October 9, 2009 2:29 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Iraqi oil would pay for it all, too! And we'd be welcomed as liberators!
Just a few minor details that would seem to indicate that Kristol, Feith, et.al., are not the most trustworthy of experts when it comes to ways in which to project our power in this New American Century, eh? I'd dare say they pretty well f*cked it up right out of the gate, and we can't afford any second chances here.
Please, Mr. Kristol. Step away from the microphone. You've sponsored enough murder and mayhem for specious reasons, and you're credibility could not be more compromised in any issues regarding our "national security."
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ru4862
October 9, 2009 1:42 PM
Conservadicks heads are popping...lol. What a difference a week makes.
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LJG
October 9, 2009 1:46 PM
Andy McCarthy said, "The transnational progressives who pass out these accolades believe America is the problem in the world, the main threat to peace, the impediment to "progress," etc." This is not exactly correct. They believe America WAS, for a period of time, the problem. The fact that this is no longer true is the very reason for this award.
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Christov
October 9, 2009 1:50 PM
I'm confused. The rejection of the Chicago olympics was proof that the world rejected Obama, despite his craven attempts to be liked, according to the wingers. So now they must be backpeddling and saying they were wrong and the world likes Obama after all. Right?
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commie atheist
October 9, 2009 2:55 PM in reply to Christov
Take it away, Goerge Orwell:
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Dave Bowman
October 9, 2009 1:50 PM
It's also funny that NRO nobody Mona Charen tries to smear Obama by placing him with the likes of Mohamed alBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
You know, the guy who was right about Saddam not having nukes.
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Ann Arbor
October 9, 2009 2:11 PM in reply to Dave Bowman
Yes, and Al Gore, whose two decades of sounding the alarm on global warming now appear likely to have underestimated the magnitude of the crisis.
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nicteis
October 9, 2009 2:39 PM in reply to Dave Bowman
Well, alBaredei has a position at the United Nations. In the minds of Mona and her readers, that pegs him as objectively pro-terrorist right there. Throw in the fact that he's got an Arab sounding name - not just his *middle* name, even - and he's obviously a villain.
That much once having become obvious, we can safely assume that he was lying about Saddam's nukes, and knows exactly where in Syria they are hidden. If only that wimp in the White House had the gonads to have alBaredei waterboarded a couple hundred times, the guy would come clean and tell us where to look.
(When they weren't there, that would of course prove that they've since been moved to Qom.)
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ejg3
October 9, 2009 1:51 PM
Obama gets the Nobel. And the Republicans keep clanging the NO bell. They have a full program of no, which includes no compassion, no grace and no shame along with no ideas.
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mans_best_friend
October 9, 2009 1:56 PM
The small continue to get smaller.
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Orlando
October 9, 2009 2:00 PM
It's a little weird that the President won the prize. But the almost schadenfreudish glee I feel watching conservatives go bonkers is simply delicious.
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RuperttheBear
October 9, 2009 2:01 PM
You know that sound.
That popping sound, like popcorn.
The sound of victory.
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mstar57
October 9, 2009 2:04 PM
This doesn't surprise me in the least. Obama is NOT the only war criminal to get this faux price! They gave it to Kissinger didn't they?...
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Lucidity
October 9, 2009 2:09 PM
Al Gore would have been the third sitting American president to have won the Nobel Prize for Peace, except for the judicial coup conducted by an activist right-wing Supreme Court.
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xargaw
October 9, 2009 2:17 PM
The GOP is naturally going nuts this morning because they HATE Obama, all the Democrats and the fact that they are in the minority after swaggering and bullying through the last eight years. Many in the MSM seem to be detracting from the honor as well buying into the "it's too soon" thinking. Now, it's Obamas fault for being so honored. He gets trashed for being awarded one of the highest honors in the land. Once again, people abroad have shown they are smarter, more forward looking and more appreciative of the efforts of the President than the second guessing, far less acheiving, small minds in America.
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virginiacynic
October 9, 2009 2:20 PM
I can't decide whether the congressman from SC wins or if Erikson from redstate w/ the affirmative action remark has edged him out.
the blatant racism of erikson almost sways me but the completeness of the congressman's remarks and my bias for SC politicians (because I know racism goes without their having to overtly state it) convinces me.
Gresham Barrett , the big winner.
but I do think that he has violated a cardinal rule of the South : do not embarrass the family.
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mcc
October 9, 2009 2:20 PM
Fox News is really, really angry. This was at the top of the Google News pile last I looked:
They've got several headlines like this, all noticeably unlike the tone taken by other news organizations.
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fbacon2
October 9, 2009 2:51 PM in reply to mcc
"Fox News is Angry"
That should be a permanent graphic on the network.
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wbgonne
October 9, 2009 3:04 PM in reply to mcc
Here's my current FOXY favorite:
"Some Analysts Warn Obama's Nobel Peace Prize Complicates War Efforts"
You can't make this shit up.
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JNagarya
October 9, 2009 6:42 PM in reply to wbgonne
But FOX can.
Which shouldn't surprise: they have some of the best fictional comedies on TeeVee.
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wbgonne
October 9, 2009 2:20 PM
"Right Wingers Pitch Fits Over Nobel Peace Prize"
How about some discussion of the Left-Wing Loonies who are doing the same?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
The Lefty-Loonies have mind-melded with the WingNuts, brought together by their abiding hatred for Obama and America.
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AnswerFrog
October 9, 2009 2:51 PM in reply to wbgonne
Greenwald is a bit of a dick, isn't he. But more importantly, he's a total (useful) idiot about politics. When "our" side has something good happen, he's a tiresome scold pretending to be "evenhanded". I guess he misses the point that there is no even-handed -- there's only a rightwing-meme infested media culture that continually promotes conservative talking points and frames. We don't need Greenwald's 'dissent' -- we have about hundreds of angry rightwing haters dominating every single debate.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
October 9, 2009 5:02 PM in reply to AnswerFrog
I put him in the "that prize is rightfully mine!!!!" category.
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Peter Principle
October 9, 2009 6:39 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
More like: "Musn't let him have the precious!"
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runfastandwin
October 9, 2009 2:55 PM
This is the greatest thing ever in history. Suck it redstate you racist POS.
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3star2nr
October 9, 2009 3:02 PM in reply to runfastandwin
yup definitely affirmative action since Mandela was white
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Bnad
October 9, 2009 3:13 PM
Why is nobody mentioning that the Norwegians should have given it to Sarah Palin?!?
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Overreach THIS!
October 9, 2009 3:21 PM in reply to Bnad
Silly comment! They need the Taliban to sign off on something like that! =D
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Anonymous Bosch
October 9, 2009 3:17 PM
Paraphrasing Secretary Clinton,
"If Obama walked on water [the GOP] would say he couldn't swim."
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public.takeover
October 9, 2009 3:18 PM
Let's all call up Bill Kristol and congratulate him on NOT winning the Nobel Peace Prize, since he sees it as such a liability. By the way, "the New Liberalism" is only being called such by the neo-conservatives whose rich supporters bought up the media outlets and bribed Michael Powell into letting them consolidate to keep the Old Liberals off the air.
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LeeJo
October 9, 2009 4:38 PM in reply to public.takeover
Let us not forget that Billy Kristol’s father once said that he, the father, got Billy into the good schools and got him his jobs in government and got him his position as a pundit.
So much for achievement through merit... Billy looks like an affirmative action baby to me.
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Minne sconsin
October 9, 2009 6:23 PM in reply to LeeJo
No, Billy, like Dubya is a legacy baby. That's the child of a white person who's very well off who gets special consideration because of their mummy & daddy.
Legacy good. Affirmative action bad.
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dswx
October 9, 2009 3:21 PM
All of these hateful comments by the Republicans must be brought back to the forefront in the 2012 elections.
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Overreach THIS!
October 9, 2009 3:25 PM in reply to dswx
Absolutely. They hated Chicago's chances of winning the Olympics and they hated the President's chance of winning the Nobel!
I'm sure they have great explanations; we need to give them a chance to air them.
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kash79
October 9, 2009 3:37 PM
I wonder how stupid one must be to religously follow these crazy wingers as opinion leaders.
Last week, they declared "World Rejects Obama" for loosing Chicago bid and today World is blindly in love with him and since he is approved all over the world, it is bad news for America.
IQ levels of people who believe in these ass hats must be lower than the IQs of these asshats themeselves- and that's just astounding.
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toney
October 9, 2009 4:13 PM
TOO BAD THESE RIGHT WINGERS CANT USE THEIR STAR POWER FOR ANYTHING GOOD..ALL I SEE AND HAVE SEEN FROM THEM IS NOTHING..OH,THEY CAN MAKE GOBS OF MONEY..BUT THEY SURE AS SH7T DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THIS COUNTRY,AND YOU BETTER NOT BE POOR,ELDERLY,OR OF COLOR.........
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Peter Principle
October 9, 2009 4:16 PM
Andrew McCarthy: The award is a symbolic statement of opposition to American exceptionalism, American might, American capitalism, American self-determinism, and American pursuit of America's interests in the world.
McCarthy doesn't get (or I dunno, maybe he does) that the award was a symbolic statement of oppostion to quasi-fascist, nut job warmongers like him and the rest of the crew at the National Review.
The basic message to the American right is that they've become like the old apartheid Afrikaaners in South Africa: Everybody else in the world pretty much despises them.
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AndiAngel
October 9, 2009 4:34 PM
Checking on the cable news channels this morning, most were discussing this matter. Fox, meanwhile, spent a couple of hours reporting on more relevant news: a car chase in Dallas.
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TheraP
October 9, 2009 4:44 PM
I predict this is the gift that will keep on giving.
We have lots of time here before Dec. 10. Then the actual prize. And the speech. And the videos of the speech. And all the essays calling him US president and winner of Nobel Peace prize.
The right will be in seizure mode by the time this runs its course!
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sagesource
October 9, 2009 8:27 PM in reply to TheraP
Great timing with the prize. Every Thug seizure over this drains a bit of the energy they might otherwise use trying to derail health care, climate legislation, and immigration reform.
I love it. Nothing like seeing a deserved meltdown.
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glblank
October 9, 2009 5:16 PM
It is quite enjoyable to witness a collective Conservative Deep Throat of Obama's Nobel. Almost as funny as John McCain showing up at a Biker rally only to have the crowd implore Cindy to show them hers as Miss Cow Chip. Ewwww!
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billp
October 9, 2009 5:43 PM
While I think it's ridiculous at this point to award the President the Nobel Peace Prize, I am also struck by:
1. When the US lost the 2016 Olympics last week, the GOP cheered.
2. When the US President wins a Nobel Prize this week, the GOP boos.
Do the Republican Party love America? I guess only when they are in charge.
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fpie
October 9, 2009 6:48 PM
Hey, where are Lalo and Shooter? It's just not a party with out the local fuck-ups. Come on Lalo, let's see that smile. Come on Shooter let's... uh... Heh. I know guys. Those Skadauhuvians are just low life Commie Nazis anyways. Those grapes are just sour.
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barryashe
October 9, 2009 6:57 PM
I am waiting
I am waiting
I am waiting...
for the American eagle
to straighten up
and fly right.
Ferlinghetti
Well, I is We and We is the World, as the famous song put it, more or less. (I can see the whole spread of pop culture from Michael Jackson to Bob Dylan before my mind's eye this minute belting it out - there really is no business like show business!)
The whole world was waiting, impatient, frustrated, often despairing that America, beacon of hope for the whole world, the world's country with its tumultuous mix of every creed and color imaginable, seemed unable to assume its destined role as world leader, but, finally, someone comes along to give them the chance, the reason, to show their real feelings about the most powerful and popular country on earth.
They love us! This is a love letter to America from the rest of the world. Everyone now has taken advantage of the President's positive and open embrace of internationalism - respect for all nations - and rejection of small-minded, narrow nationalism to signal their enthusiastic and relieved approval of what they knew was there in us all along, but often not in evidence in our actions.
Discussion of the small-minded legalisms of the nomination period and process are beside the point - they could not help themselves! This flowed out from the heart of the world in a great gushing unstoppable stream of emotion that simply swept the committee along with it.
The award is for the President just being there, being who he is. It is to encourage us to stay on this course of peaceful involvement in the world, for the future continuation of this positive style of American leadership. It is a heartfelt thank you from the world for the whole administration and for the whole nation, each and every one of us Americans.
Most of all it is an expression of hope. It is an expression of how much the world needs to have faith in America, how much the world wants to believe in America. Now we have to live up to the responsibility they have given us.
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kfdan
October 9, 2009 11:43 PM
The only thing you can expect from Billy Kristol is a smirk and dig! It's his style and it clearly shows that he is a clown!
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calguy
October 10, 2009 6:16 AM
On the minor league RWNJ side there is Scott Baio. Chachi loves Rushie and Beckie apparently. He tweets at @thescottbaio. These are some of his choice tweets:
Oh, and his wife, the one who called Obama "shitfuck"? This is what Scottie had to say about her:
Obviously, she aced the SAT on vocabulary.
Some twitter pals are speculating whether the erstwhile Chachi has sufficient self awareness to identify the most obvious common feature between Mike Vick and Barack Obama, and I wonder if he has enough knowledge of projection to recognize that in his own use of "loser".
And of course what is truly sad in a sad day in America is that someone like Baio can move in an orbit where it is ok to simply toss off that the POTUS is a "shitfuck" and lump him with Michael Vick, a convicted felon, and someone who went for fortune to support anti-social habits, quite the opposite of Obama (I will praise Vick for serving his time and apparently seeing the error in his ways).
That is very sad.
I would urge those who want to give Chachi some "love" on twitter.
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NH Bob
October 10, 2009 9:29 AM
No, Rush, No! What proves God's sense of humor is the fact that you are still alive!
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100x
October 10, 2009 11:02 AM
If Obama cured world hunger they would blame him for over population.
Rep. Alan Grayson.
Kind of say's it all.
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mjclare
October 10, 2009 11:29 AM
This Nobel controversy can really be seen as the complete failure of the right wing press and blogosphere to make its case. If you look back at the full spectrum of the press coverage of Mr. Obama since before he was elected you can't help but notice that his loudest critics seem to doubling down on stories that can be objectively described as being long on dogmatic conclusions and short on facts. To someone from outside the country that is trying to make sense of the complicated and swirling political currents of our political dialog this lack of intellectual rigor demonstrated by the loudest voices from the right must be completely obvious. In the modern world, where objective truth is only revealed by an energetic, articulate and informed debate, it does not serve the right’s cause to institutionalize the dumbing down of its argument.
And now… rather than attempt to absorb and learn from this latest (implied) criticism of their belief system they have chosen to gin up their propaganda machine and spin faster than ever throwing out ever more outlandish conspiracy theories. In bygone days this approach might have worked but, in the internet age what we used to call the judgment of history has been promoted to a real time exercise. To those that are carefully watching the ebb and flow of current events, the paucity of the right’s arguments and by extension their argument style is becoming increasingly less and less effective outside the isolated slice of the population that is currently serving as their feedback loop. As a consequence it comes as a shock to their system when a big story like this breaches the walls around their information island and demonstrates that reasonable, articulate and thoughtful people not only disagree with their conclusions but also completely reject their arguments.
The current right wing outrage is not really about President Obama; it is a panicked reaction to the scary reflection of themselves that they are seeing in their mirror.
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Leftflank
October 10, 2009 9:27 PM
Another peace prize for the left & another ridiculuos response from the clowns on the right. How sad for the neo-right to be recognized internationally as well as by the majority of America as the evil, mean & wicked party. And what a slam to them also that they are proven wrong yet again. They were never even in the running.
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bobregl
October 12, 2009 10:31 AM
I see that the uber-wingnuts that define today’s Republican Party have their shorts in a wad because President Obama was recognized with the most prestigious award of its kind in the world, the Nobel Peace Prize.
Schadenfreude is a German term for pleasure derived from the misery of another; Glückschmerz is jealous anguish at the good fortune of another.
As for President Obama’s award I must confess to feelings of Schadenfreude at Republican Glückschmerz.
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Ace
October 12, 2009 11:37 AM in reply to bobregl
This what Kristol said:"We could note that, if the Norwegians wanted to give the Nobel Peace Prize to an American, it would have been been better to give it to Sen. John McCain"
This is what I say to Kristol: Giving the prize to John McCain for supporting the troops surge in Iraq is like fucking a girl to enhance her virginity. Isn't it counter-intuitive?
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Joe Markowitz
October 12, 2009 6:08 PM
The people who are criticizing this award are mainly people who do not believe in peace. Has anyone noticed this? These are people who think that the only legitimate way to achieve peace is through force of arms. They have no patience with anyone who wants to find common ground with our adversaries. If they believed in that kind of peace process, they would recognize that Barack Obama has done more for peace than anyone else you can think of, because he has caused Americans to view the world in a less belligerent way, and that has caused the rest of the world to admire instead of fear America. But the people who would rather have this country get its way by muscling everyone else around are not happy about this development. And they are not happy that the Nobel committee also believes that talking to your adversaries is a better way to promote peace than bullying your adversaries.
http://www.hopeandchange.net
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