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Word on Capitol Hill today is that a public option may end up in the final Senate health care bill after all, but Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) doesn't sound like she likes it very much.

During an interview with NPR's "Tell Me More" today, Landrieu described the public option as a "government-run, taxpayer subsidized, national insurance plan."

Opining on the polls showing support for public option, she said it was all about the phrasing of the question.

"I think if you asked, 'Do you want a public option but it would force the government to go bankrupt,' people would say 'No,'" she said.

The Hill caught the NPR bit earlier. Listen to the full piece here.

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October 22, 2009 3:39 PM   

I was under the assumption that it wouldn't be tax payer subsidized, but rather run solely on the premiums it brought in, with the idea being that since it wouldn't have to spend money on lobbying, bribing politicians, advertising, paying out-of-whack executive compensation packages and worry about about stock dividends that it could offer a competitive to private company packages that would be roughly 15% cheaper.

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October 22, 2009 4:24 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

I suppose that means your impression was formed from the wording of every single public option proposal. Whereas hers was formed from her imagination of what might sound good to Louisiana voters now that New Orleans has been decimated and the state's a wingnut paradise.

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October 22, 2009 3:39 PM   

No offense to anyone who lives there, but Louisiana politicians really do suck!

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October 22, 2009 3:43 PM    in reply to ttarleton

Better or worse than what South Carolina offers? How about Oklahoma?

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October 22, 2009 3:47 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

With Lieberman, Connecticut has the honor of outsucking them all.

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October 22, 2009 4:00 PM    in reply to AdAbsurdum

Sadly, this Native of CT must agree with you.

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October 22, 2009 4:02 PM    in reply to AdAbsurdum

You comments show that Texas is so wacked that that its a given and didn't even make the top 3.

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October 22, 2009 4:14 PM    in reply to AdAbsurdum

But you have Dodd for balance in CT. LA gives us Landrieu and Vitter.

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October 22, 2009 4:17 PM    in reply to Dogger

South Carolina has Sanford, DeMint, Graham and Rep. Joe Wilson...

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October 22, 2009 4:19 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

And the GOP chairmen who made derogatory comments about Jews...

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October 22, 2009 5:59 PM    in reply to charlie8080

I would still have to give the nod to Oklahoma. That is the arm pit of political thought!

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October 22, 2009 3:47 PM   

Would she even have a job if her last name was Smith? I accepted years ago that I'm brighter than most of the current congress, but the stupid really does seem to grow exponentially.

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October 22, 2009 4:02 PM    in reply to Powkat

It seems a French sounding surname helps, but a resemblence to Alfred E. Neumann has also shown results.

http://bumzaway.blogspot.com/2008/11/alfred-e-newman-and-bobby-jindal.html

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October 22, 2009 3:55 PM   

Does LA have any future dems to go and primary her out of the Senate? There dumb and there is dim!

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October 22, 2009 3:57 PM   

It is a false choice. Of course we don't want the government to go bankrupt. Instead of trying to court republicans and unwilling democrats if all of that energy had been focused on 'how' to pay for it in an acceptable, responsible way she wouldn't even be able to try to make this false argument.

Based on her recent comments, I consider this woman an idiot.

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October 22, 2009 3:58 PM   

Every time she opens her mouth, buckets of stupid fall out.

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October 22, 2009 4:00 PM    in reply to Leftist Pinko

What's worse is that I get the impression that someone else tells her what to think.

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October 22, 2009 4:00 PM   

Mary is making funny here. She's ignoring that the people going into the PO would be covered by subsidies if they can't get insurance. Without the PO, that money would still be spent, but on Insurance Coverage. At a higher rate than Medicare + 5%.

I think she knows this, but the Insurance Money in her pockets means that she'll shill for Big Health.

John

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October 22, 2009 4:01 PM   

She, along with the other Blue Dogs and Lieberscum remind me why I don't answer the phone anymore when the DNC calls.

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October 22, 2009 4:05 PM    in reply to BrianInMKE

Just to remind YOU...it is the DSCC and DCCC that fund Blue Dogs...very little from the DNC

Wanna make sure you hang up on them too

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October 22, 2009 4:17 PM    in reply to BrianInMKE

You should answer the phone, and tell them why they'll get no more money from you.

I do that, politely BTW, and it feels great!

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October 22, 2009 4:21 PM    in reply to Dogger

PS: I politley tell them I'm still contributing through ActBlue, directly to progressives like Alan Grayson, and also to any Democrat who challenges weaklings like Harry Reid in their primaries.

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October 22, 2009 4:04 PM   

Ok Ok she's not the swiftest pirogue in the fleet, but consider Moon Unit's competition in the Great State

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October 22, 2009 4:05 PM   

Except that the public option isn't taxpayer-subsidized. Did the NPR reporter point that out to her? Or that the public option would SAVE the government money, not "bankrupt" it?

Nitwits like her need to be called on their lies. I liked her when she first got elected in 2002, but she certainly hasn't distinguished herself as a public servant.

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October 22, 2009 4:07 PM   

She right, Phrasing is Key.

If the question was..
"Do you support HCR if it included money to gather up DNA of all the worst dictators in history, combine it with a snakes DNA and create an evil Emperor to run a Terrorist Organization?"

People would say no...

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October 22, 2009 6:07 PM    in reply to _jonny_5_

Shorter Landrieu: "No fair not loading the question!"

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October 22, 2009 4:09 PM   

Who is feeding her this crap?!

She keeps giving weak rationalizations for opposing a public option. She sounds like she's trying to BS a bunch of ignorant people. How is it in her best interest--nevermind her constituents'--to keep coming up with lame excuses for trying to kill a public option?

Even if she has no idea what she's talking about, and I don't doubt that a bit, what is driving her to come up with or repeat this bogus bullshit?

Mary, pay attention now. WE ARE SUBSIDIZING health care for the uninsured right now. They go to the emergency rooms, long after the less costly preventive measures might have helped, and they get treated with taxpayers footing the bill. Get a clue or STFU. Please.

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October 22, 2009 4:15 PM    in reply to chimpale

"How is it in her best interest--nevermind her constituents'--to keep coming up with lame excuses for trying to kill a public option?"

Because most of her constituents - like Blanche Lincoln's - want that colored boy in the WH to fail, even if that means they don't get something that may actually help them. I will agree that the race card gets played a bit too often but in states like Louisiana and Arkansas is definitely comes into play...big time. It wasn't that long ago that Louisiana - and, of course, Arkansas - voted to put Bill Clinton into the White House...twice. I don't think Landrieu believes this BS herself...she's saying it for the benefit of her constituency.

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October 22, 2009 4:10 PM   

Skunk dumb

There is dumb.
And there is DUMB.
And then there is SKUNK-DUMB...
A dumb so dumb that not even tomato juice can wash it off.

I mean really:

A politician from New Orleans that has taken billions of taxpayer dollars to rebuild it's primary city? That's a national insurance plan. "We the people" give "you our fellow citizens" money to rebuild. And yes you are supposed to say: Thank you very much. Because it is a hand-out and a hand-up. Show some humility and respect please. It is the right thing to do.

But the public option?
Individuals have to pay to play.

I mean really...
More better Louisiana "poll-cats" please...


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October 22, 2009 4:12 PM   

Congratulations. You understand more about it than a sitting US Senator.

...Landrieu described the public option as a "government-run, taxpayer subsidized, national insurance plan."

At least she got two out of three right.

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October 22, 2009 4:14 PM   

I discovered how much Mary Landrieu sickens me during her last campaign when she did her darnedest to be more Republican than her Republican opponent. And she succeeded.

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October 22, 2009 11:06 PM    in reply to chimpale

She's the democrats Sarah Palin, and that has to be the worse thing one could be.

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October 22, 2009 4:15 PM   

I can't stand this cow! Didn't she read the CBO scoring of the bill with the public option and as Bob Cesca just pointed out in his article today, didn't she and the other blue dogs just vote for a single payer government run healtcare program for veterans today? Is she suggesting that we all join the army to get healthcare? I can't stand this bitch and judging by her girth, she probably won't be around much longer. I'm guessing she's got heart disease buried under all that whale blubber she's carrying.

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October 22, 2009 4:32 PM    in reply to roxanne

First.. Watch it w/ the Cow talk. I eat cow for chrissakes.

Second... it's not that she didn't read the CBO scoring, its that she thinks her constituents won't understand it because it's not a 30 second sound bite.

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October 22, 2009 8:58 PM    in reply to roxanne

She may well be suggesting that we all join the military to get good health care! Back in July, Bill Kristol was on The Daily Show, and Jon Stewart got him to admit that (1) the government-run system of military health care was first class; and (2) that he didn't think the American people as a whole deserved to have the same system -- that it should be reserved for just the military.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-july-27-2009/bill-kristol

That part of the conversation starts at about 5:50 into the clip.

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October 22, 2009 4:18 PM   

"I think if you asked, 'Do you want a public option but it would force the government to go bankrupt,' people would say 'No,'" she said.

This from a senator who voted for the Iraq without questioning how we would pay for the war. What a hypocrite!

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October 22, 2009 4:26 PM   

"Do you want a public option but it would force the government to go bankrupt."

Where are the facts to back up this claim. She doesn't have them...because she's talking out of her ass. Even Ben Nelson doesn't say crap like this...he just basically says, "I don't have a huge problem with it but my constituents do." He also whips out the "we don't have the votes" line without admitting that the reason they don't have the votes is because he - along with others - might not vote for cloture on a bill that includes a public option. But I've never heard Nelson or Conrad or Blanche Lincoln make a ludicrous statement like this.

Congrats, Mary. The anti-miscengenation crowd in your home state will applaud you for this ridiculous statement.

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October 22, 2009 4:27 PM   

Thanks, Senator. Can I play too?

"Do you want a public option if it would force the government to turn citizens into flesh eating zombies?"

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October 22, 2009 4:37 PM    in reply to Bleacher Creature

How about...

"Do you want a public option if it would force the government to kill one puppy for every enrollment?"

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October 22, 2009 5:04 PM    in reply to Bleacher Creature

How about...

"Do you want a public option, but it would require each citizen get a color-coded crystal implant in their palm, and at the age of 30 the crystal would turn black and in an a quasi-religious extermination ceremony, all bearers of black crystals would be thrown into a pit of fire?

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October 22, 2009 5:33 PM    in reply to DaddyD

Geek reference FTW!

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October 22, 2009 4:33 PM   

Good job correcting this disgusting pig, NPR. I'll be withholding my donation this year.

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October 22, 2009 4:40 PM   

What an outrageous remark! This does not bode well for a vote for cloture. She has basically just voiced her adherence to GOP talking points. I am not sure how to reconcile her remarks and the rumors that the senate bill will include a PO. It appears that Reid again has failed in bringing everyone into the fold, but that they are marching forward in high-stakes floor vote without knowing ahead of time whether they have the votes for cloture.... If this is the case, we can only pressure Landrieu, Lincoln etc- but I see no hope there unless people in their state start protesting en masse. I think a bill with PO goes to the floor and fails. Then, a second bill without PO, or with a trigger is finally submitted, and passes. Then, Reid can just shrug and say that he did his best and failed. What a pathetic party!

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October 22, 2009 4:49 PM   

I am just thinking I don't want the government run taxpayer subsidized flood control program either. Oh, wait what did you say there, Senator Landrieu? Are you mumbling something about how itzawunnderfulbiggubmintprogram? I don't care Senator, I don't want a government run taxpayer subsidized flood control that helps your cronies.

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October 22, 2009 4:51 PM   

Some politicians, though dumb, pretend to be dumber than they really are because they think the hicks back home suspicion politicians with a buncha fancy book larnin.' (Ben Nelson) Some are really that damn dumb. (Inhofe).

And then there's Mary Landrieu, who thinks she's playing dumb but is, in fact, every bit as stupid as she thinks she's pretending to be.

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October 22, 2009 4:58 PM   

WTF? You can reword any question to sound as crazy as you want to make it, but that doesn’t make your dishonesty on the matter a reality.

"I think if you asked, 'Do you want a public option but it would force the government to detonate a nuclear weapon in every major city in the United States,' people would say 'No.”

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA)

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October 22, 2009 5:06 PM   

There are two ways to spell Landrieu:

M-O-R-O-N and S-T-U-P-I-D.

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October 22, 2009 5:31 PM   

Sen. Mary Landrieu is a 'chicken-shit' who represents one of the poorest states in the union. There is no excuse for her opposition to a robust public option. Most of her constituent support comes from the black community in New Orleans, Shreverport and southern portion of the states, and they will stand to gain from a health care reform bill with a robust choice.

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October 22, 2009 5:50 PM   

Outside three years when she sold real estate when she graduated college, she has always been on the government employee health plan. First though Daddy, and then on her own.

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October 22, 2009 11:00 PM   

Why not ask her if she supports continuing the war in Afghanistan if it means bankrupting the country.

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October 23, 2009 1:03 AM   



Hmmm . . .

Why is it that I have a suspicion that Karen Ignagni and AHIP (see PBS Online Newshour video @ 8min30sec) are stuffing copious amounts of $100 bills up Mary's asteroid-orifice?

~OGD~

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October 23, 2009 12:33 PM   

Landrieu is stuck in the insurance exchange

July 29 2009
Landrieu Leads Senate Fight To Improve Health Care For Small Businesses
WASHINGTON – US Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship Chair Mary Landrieu, D-La., joined Dick Durbin and Senators Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., today to discuss the effects skyrocketing health care costs are having on small businesses....

“As Chair of the Senate Small Business Committee, I have heard one primary concern over and over again from small businesses – health care costs are spiraling out of control and they are hurting our small firms,” Sen. Landrieu said. “Because of skyrocketing premiums, when owners are faced with the choice of cutting employees or cutting health insurance, the insurance is the first to go. This hurts small businesses’ ability to compete with big businesses for top talent and affects their bottom line.”

Skyrocketing premiums are crushing small businesses as they face yearly premium increases of as much as 20 percent for the past four years. Without action, millions more jobs will be lost, and in the next 15 years, $5.5 trillion more a year will be spent on healthcare.

Senator Landrieu laid out the need for:

An effective insurance exchange system to give small business employees more choices and stability for less money;
Tax equity, including a tax credit for businesses that provide insurance to help ease the burden;
And, insurance mandates that don’t penalize small firms that want to provide health insurance but can’t.

"Our small businesses need a quality, affordable health insurance option, stable costs, secure choices and an organized marketplace that works for everyone,” the senator said. “While we have made some progress, there is still more work to do as we take an appropriate pause. I look forward to working with my Senate colleagues to improve existing proposals to ensure the right kind of reform for our small businesses.”

http://tinyurl.com/mckrbf

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