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David Corn from Mother Jones read an incendiary quote from yesterday's Capitol Hill Tea Party to White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs this afternoon during the press briefing.

Gibbs used the question as an opportunity to lament the state of discourse in the U.S.

Here's the Gibbs exchange:

Corn: "Yesterday at the rally on Capitol Hill, Congressman Boehner said that he considers the health care bill to be, quote, 'the greatest threat to freedom he has ever seen.' I just was wondering what your response is to that.

Gibbs: "I think we can take up the better part of our afternoons and probably significantly into the weekend thinking of other conflicts that we've seen or read about throughout the history of the world that might be a greater threat to freedom than what Congressman Boehner was discussing."

"I will continue to say what I've said before. You hear in this debate, you hear analogies, you hear references to, you see pictures about and depictions of individuals that are truly stunning, and you hear it all the time. People -- imagine five years ago somebody comparing health care reform to 9/11. Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler. Hopefully we can get back to a discussion about the issues that are important in this country that we can do so without being personally disagreeable and set up comparisons to things that were so insidious in our history that anybody in any profession or walk of life would be well advised to compare nothing to those atrocities."

If you haven't seen the remark, from Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), watch TPMDC's highlight reel from the event. Corn had the remark a bit wrong - Boehner said it was "greatest threat" to freedom he'd seen in his 19 years in Congress.

Intern superstar Andrew Hymas (whose last day is today!) clipped the video:

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November 6, 2009 3:25 PM   

Excellent, lucid and rational response to utter insanity being promoted and fomented by the repukes. Keep it up Gibbs. Good job.

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November 6, 2009 3:29 PM    in reply to Michael A

I hope it is contagious, and the White House reporters start pointing out who truly crazy this kind of language is.

But I doubt Jake "Whiff of smoke" Tapper, Chip "Why didn't Reagan win the Nobel???? WHY???" Reid and Mark "Obama has played more golf than W" Knoller will get it.

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November 6, 2009 3:55 PM    in reply to CT Voter

W was man enough to quit golf in soldiarity with our troops.....will Obama show similar reverence and quit shooting hoops?

These are the important questions the WH press corps should be pursuing.

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November 6, 2009 4:02 PM    in reply to Dorn76

It's too bad W wasn't man enough to quit, altogether.

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November 6, 2009 4:04 PM    in reply to Dorn76

And whether Michelle Obama shows too much arm.

Or what kind of art they have on the walls.

Whether they should have dined alone in Paris.

Are they marketing their marriage?

Why aren't more women playing hoops?

blah, blah, blah. . .

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November 6, 2009 4:15 PM    in reply to Dorn76

Actually W only vowed to give up golf, he didn't really follow through. After the cameras left, W played through.

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November 6, 2009 4:37 PM    in reply to oskieoskie

Is vowing more important than follow through?

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November 6, 2009 6:22 PM    in reply to kash79

Absolutely. Just ask Mark Sanford, John Ensign, and the rest of the C Streeters.

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November 6, 2009 7:15 PM    in reply to kash79

Let's not get theological, here.

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November 6, 2009 4:04 PM    in reply to CT Voter

Hilarious take on those dopes.

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November 6, 2009 4:08 PM   

I actually disagree a bit with Gibbs. Not about the teabaggers, obviously, but about two aspects of this:

Hopefully we can get back to a discussion about the issues that are important in this country that we can do so without being personally disagreeable and set up comparisons to things that were so insidious in our history that anybody in any profession or walk of life would be well advised to compare nothing to those atrocities.

First, our political discourse has been "personally disagreeable" for centuries. Civility is an overrated political virtue. Pearlclutching over shrillness was wrong when Republicans were doing it during the Bush years; it's wrong now. The teabaggers should be taken to task for the ridiculous substance of their rants, not for their tone.

Second, I think the notion that some things are so awful that they should never be used as political analogies is, at best, silly and, at worst, dangerous. Again, what's wrong with the teabaggers isn't that they are using Nazism or 9/11 as analogies. I can imagine any number of circumstances in which these might be perfectly valid analogies. The problem is that they are comparing healthcare reform to these things.

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November 6, 2009 4:44 PM    in reply to Ben Alpers

I think in your excitement to make a realistic assessment you have taken the words of Gibbs too idealistically. I don't think WH looses a moment of sweat about the lack of civility in tea bagger protests and I don't think they mind the tea-bagging coalition or their language at all, because they make a easy to dismiss opposition.

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November 6, 2009 10:28 PM    in reply to Ben Alpers

Didn't Alan Grayson compare health care to the Holocaust at one point as well?

Of course, I also find it rather amusing that Gibbs seems to be unaware of the fact that yes, there were people "around with images of Hitler" five years ago, specifically comparing Bush to Hitler.

I'm not saying that I'm a fan of the current trend of people comparing Obama to Mao or the Joker. As far as I'm concerned, such a display does far more harm than good to your cause. But that said, I wasn't a fan back when it was done by liberals against a conservative president either. And I'm certainly not a fan of the 'holier-than-thou' hypocrisy and/or convenient amnesia which seems to be all the rage these days.

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November 6, 2009 4:14 PM   

It's hard to retain respect for elected officials who lead with hyperbole and not sense. If it is such a bad bill, tell me three things that are bad about it, and what might be done to fix it. If you don't like the idea of addressing the health care issue, just say so. If there is no problem with health care, say so and lead the agenda toward what you think is more important. Simply saying "this is the worst thing ever" lead by shaping public policy.

Have a better idea. That's how it is supposed to work.

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November 6, 2009 4:20 PM   

If there were Republicans who wanted to distance their party from the lunatics, they can't anymore. This has gone beyond a few Republican elected officials showing up at rallies or saying something supportive, and into most House members participating in a rally with Nazi images and repeating wingnut hyperbole. I realize most come from safe districts where this won't hurt them, but they can't all be safe. Minnesota Democrats are making a determined try to unseat Bachmann in the state's most conservative district. How about those of you in the states of these other demagogues?

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November 6, 2009 6:25 PM   

set up comparisons to things that were so insidious in our history
Anyone want to take bets on how long it is before the freepers and Malkinites jump on this to claim that Gibbs thinks Nazism was a stain on American history? And how long after that the MSM reports it as a bigger story than this press conference?

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November 7, 2009 12:46 AM   

The Weekly Standard -- Gibbs: Can You Imagine if, 5 Years Ago, People Had Protested With Hitler Pictures?!?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/11/gibbs_can_you_imagine_if_5_yea_1.asp
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Hot Air -- Gibbs: Can you imagine if, five years ago, protesters had compared our government to Hitler?
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/06/gibbs-can-you-imagine-if-five-years-ago-protesters-had-compared-our-government-to-hitler/

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November 7, 2009 11:05 AM    in reply to StewartIII

Hey Stewart and Ich... were those "moonbat" protests actually organized by the Dem party or Dem elected officials?

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November 7, 2009 1:06 PM    in reply to de TOQUEville

So it's fine to carry signs advocating the death of the president or comparing him to Hitler... as long as they only show up at "non-official" protests? I, personally, cannot say that I'm overly familiar with whether or not protests are organized by candidates or party officials, and would rather not get into an argument over grass-roots vs. astroturfing (as in, who's using which), simply because as far as I'm concerned, that's beside the point. The point is that supporters from both sides used/are using such posters, that both sides are wrong to do so, and that the Dems (both supporters and, apparently, Gibbs) seem to ignore/forget/make excuses for such behavior which went on during the Bush years.

Of course, I'm sure that if it happened the other way around (i.e. if it had been 8 years of a Dem with the signs showing up, and then a new GOP president) the GOP would likely be 'conveniently' forgetting their actions during that time.

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November 7, 2009 1:27 AM   

ROFL! I just love how all the liberals are shocked, yes shocked, that some people on the right resort to Nazi imagery, and then fall all over themselves to use it to condemn anyone/everyone who dares speak against liberal programs, *BUT*, conveniently "forget" about how awfully common it was for the left to accuse the right of being facists, akin to Hitler, etc. for the prior eight years during which, apparently, it meant nothing of significance nor reflected upon liberals on the whole, eh?

Judging from the kind of responses I'm seeing here ("repukes", etc.), I'll bet the folks most loudly using this as "proof" of insanity on the right were among the very same moonbats who were slinging around the "Bushitler" nonsense so freely.

Your double-standard hypocrisy speaks volumes!

Here's a little refresher course for all liberals with such "convenient" amnesia:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/11/gibbs_can_you_imagine_if_5_yea_1.asp

And:

http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2009/08/20/hitler-comparisons

Get back to me when you guys manage to apply your outrage in a less partisan manner, and out of actual ethical concern instead of as a cheap excuse to tar and feather anyone/everyone who dares disagree with the stampede towards the far left.

The funniest part is that in this very same attempt to demonize oppponents of the President's ill-conceived policies, Gibbs is himself acting in a way that lends credence to the more hyperbolic accusations. The propaganda war that the Administration has been waging on protestors and less than sympathetic news outlets (as well as trying to threaten and blackmail Democrats who appear on those news outlets) is exactly the kind of thing Goebbels would have been proud of. Irony is so ironic.


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November 8, 2009 8:10 AM    in reply to Ichneumon

Boy, that's a lot of words, Ich Man. Yet, you never address the foolishness of comparing the long-awaited improvement of America's broken health care system, to the benefit of all citizens, with Hitler's killing of millions of innocents in gas chambers. Of all the lunacy from the right, this is the craziest talking point since "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here."

republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, as they are on every issue. Always the wrong answer. Always. (* smacks head *)

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November 8, 2009 8:17 PM   

As long as the unemployment rate rises or stays the same, the Dems have about an ice cubes' chance in hell of surviving next fall.

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