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GOP Compiles List Of Democrat 'No' Votes
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
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Republicans already let the world know they will unanimously oppose the health care bill tonight, but now they are mocking Democratic divisions as more members of the majority party announce they can't support the plan in its current form.
(Watch the debate live here.)
Staffers in Minority Whip Eric Cantor's office are having some fun today, and are sending reporters updates when Democrats announce their plans to vote "No."
Cantor says: "There will be one bipartisan vote today, and that is against Speaker Pelosi's overhaul of health care. There will not be a bipartisan vote for this bill."
Here's the list they compiled of Democrats who won't back the bill, as of 6:30 p.m. (Updated.)
Rep. John Adler (NJ)
Rep. Brian Baird (WA)
Rep. John Barrow (GA)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Rep. Rick Boucher (VA)
Rep. Allen Boyd (FL)
Rep. Bobby Bright (AL)
Rep. Travis Childers (MS)
Rep. Artur Davis (AL)
Rep. Lincoln Davis (TN)
Rep. Chet Edwards (TX)
Rep. Bart Gordon (TN)
Rep. Parker Griffith (AL)
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD)
Rep. Tim Holden (PA)
Rep. Larry Kissell (NC)
Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (FL)
Rep. Frank Kratovil (MD)
Rep. Daniel Lipinski (IL)
Rep. Jim Marshall (GA)
Rep. Eric Massa (NY)
Rep. Jim Matheson(UT)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC)
Rep. Michael McMahon (NY)
Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA)
Rep. Walt Minnick (ID)
Rep. Glenn Nye (VA)
Rep. Collin Peterson (MN)
Rep. Mike Ross (AR)
Rep. Ike Skelton (MO)
Rep. John Tanner (TN)
Rep. Gene Taylor (MS)
Rep. Harry Teague (NM)
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kash79
November 7, 2009 3:29 PM
Thanks to our own divisions, Republicans may emerge as winners tonight. All they have done is sit on the sidelines, and to use President's analogy mocked us as we clean their mess.
It is just to super easy to be a republican in congress these days, no responsibility whatsoever.
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seashell
November 7, 2009 3:42 PM in reply to kash79
Why do we need a second party, when we have so much diversity within the Democratic one? We could get rid of the Republicans and still have 5 hour debates that end up with compromises and amendments.
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TheraP
November 7, 2009 3:48 PM in reply to seashell
;)
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kash79
November 7, 2009 3:49 PM in reply to seashell
Its not the comprises that bothers me. IMO, the overplay or ihe underplay of what we're compromising may hurt the chances of passing the bill.
The bill has to pass, otherwise it will be decades of democratic exile and add few more years to those decades before we see HRC on the floor house.
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Beetlejuice
November 7, 2009 10:31 PM in reply to kash79
Unfortunately, in its' current form - laden with republican IED tweaks - we're going to be handed an abortion which will be a prime target for republicans to bash as government waste and useless government intervention. I'd prefer Congress work it for 2 more years. That way as the cost of medical insurance and procedures rise at their current astronomical rates by 2011 I think even the more die-hard republican in Congress as well was their tea-bagging base would be ready to cooperate and work hard at a cooperative bipartisan legislation that services the needs of the public over the profits of the industry. They may even soften their reject on single payer given time especially if the industry jacks up costs and denial of services.
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CT Voter
November 7, 2009 3:54 PM
Sorry. I'm not impressed. Republican aides also claimed that Bill Owens was going to vote against it.
Right before he announced he was voting for it.
And I seriously doubt Pelosi and Hoyer would have brought the bill to the floor without the votes.
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Walter Mitty
November 7, 2009 4:11 PM
And Dems should rebut the point by saying they allow differing opinions in their caucus - unlike the Republican Party.
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loria
November 7, 2009 4:18 PM
If there are no more no's, the bill passes. Perhaps some of these dems have been given the okay to vote no because they come from conservative districts.
They have to know that they have the votes to pass the bill.
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midnight rambler
November 7, 2009 4:18 PM
It's made a lot less impressive by the fact that there are only 29 Reps on the list, and it would require 40 defections to defeat it. It was always expected to be close, so it's not like it's a revelation that some Dems weren't going to vote for it.
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loria
November 7, 2009 4:22 PM in reply to midnight rambler
For some reason my subtraction failed me, and I was thinking only 30 defections were needed. Thankfully, you are right, and 29 doesn't cut it.
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geofu54
November 7, 2009 4:57 PM in reply to loria
But still, I'm biting my nails.
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Kuyleh
November 7, 2009 6:06 PM in reply to geofu54
Same. >.
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TheraP
November 7, 2009 8:52 PM in reply to geofu54
Watch out! That could be a "medical offense" - under heath care!
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Walter Mitty
November 7, 2009 4:25 PM
His "No" list doesn't take into account the Stupak amendment - Will progressives vote down the bill with that amendment added to it? And if the amendment is voted down some how (Stupak is saying he has 225 votes for it), then would Stupak and others vote down the bill?
This bill is a huge win for the anti-choicers.
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vamonticello
November 7, 2009 4:28 PM in reply to Walter Mitty
Stupak claims he has 40 votes for the bill if his amendment passes
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Walter Mitty
November 7, 2009 4:31 PM in reply to vamonticello
Maybe I misunderstood, I thought he meant he had 40 votes from the Dem side, that along with all Republicans would give him enough votes to get his amendment added.
Otherwise if he had 40 votes over and above the know "yes" votes, it means he'd have to get some Republican votes for the bill. I don't think that is the case.
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GayIthacan
November 7, 2009 4:57 PM
This is how the GOP spends their time?
And they wonder why their approval rating is below 30%.
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LFO
November 7, 2009 5:03 PM
Democrat? Democrat? So now TPM is using total Rep language? Why do I even bother checking here anymore?
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Walter Mitty
November 7, 2009 5:06 PM
I don't find anything wrong with "Democrat" unless it's "Democrat Party", I mean what are you supposed to call singular members of the Democratic Party? It's shortform...
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LFO
November 7, 2009 5:12 PM in reply to Walter Mitty
sorry the title of the piece sounds exactly like democrat party. GOP counts democrat no votes? come on! this is exactly the kind of use that reps have been using for years.
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midnight rambler
November 7, 2009 6:10 PM in reply to LFO
It's counting Democrats who are 'no' votes. Not the same as "Democrat Party 'no' votes". You're being pedantic.
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unabogie
November 7, 2009 6:10 PM in reply to LFO
I was just going to comment on this. We can count, say, "Republican convicted felons", or we could count "Democratic no votes". Anything else is poor grammar and you'd think the PTB at TPM would know this.
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LFO
November 7, 2009 6:18 PM in reply to unabogie
exactly my point. It is not pedantic, as someone says above, it is of a trend here to use the republican frame to report everything.
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CVille Dem
November 7, 2009 7:35 PM in reply to LFO
Agree completely. "Democrat" as an adjective is purely a Newt Gingrich, disrespectful term. TPM should know better.
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TheraP
November 7, 2009 7:42 PM in reply to CVille Dem
It bothered me too. Just goes to show how the repubs have infiltrated language! They're doing a number on logic too.
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geofu54
November 7, 2009 8:24 PM in reply to TheraP
Hey, but who knows? "Democrat 'No' Votes" may actually be the file name of the GOP's list.
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CVille Dem
November 7, 2009 8:48 PM in reply to geofu54
Now I have a major headache! (Or is it an upper gas pain?)
Oh, we need to get this passed! What is the opposite of freedom? Oppression? So providing health care to American citizens = oppression! Now, talk about BULLSHIT!
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TheraP
November 7, 2009 8:51 PM in reply to CVille Dem
All citizens will be "subjected" (let me be clear - SUBJECTED!) to physicals and other indignities! Under the guise of health care!
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TheraP
November 7, 2009 8:49 PM in reply to geofu54
You have a point.
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Jay
November 7, 2009 5:24 PM
I wonder how many are effected by the Joint Tax Committee Memo:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15141066/You-Will-Go-To-Jail-Under-the-Pelosi-Health-Care-Bill-If-You-Dont-Buy-The-Government-Option
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GayIthacan
November 7, 2009 6:06 PM
I wonder if they will check it twice. You know, to find out who is being naughty or nice.
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JohnMcCSF
November 7, 2009 6:46 PM
Waxed!
-- Michael Muskal(LAT)
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kash79
November 7, 2009 6:53 PM
I had been paying attention to the debate on and off for the past floor- how intellectually bankrupt are the GOP?
Five talking points, this bill:
1) kills freedom
2) makes you a criminal
3) is a government takeover
4) kills jobs
4) increases taxes.
The same unsubstantiated shit over and over again. I'm already concerned for that baby by the way. The greatest threat to that bad is not healthcare but that old piece of shit who used him as a prop.
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TheraP
November 7, 2009 6:56 PM in reply to kash79
I thought it was gonna ruin the economy too... ;)
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geofu54
November 7, 2009 7:06 PM in reply to kash79
And it's mind-boggling if we remember that's one of the two major national parties.
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agio
November 7, 2009 8:54 PM in reply to kash79
The next time I hear a Republican get misty eyed about how unfair it is to give our children a huge national debt I think I might puke.
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DanielFBoone
November 7, 2009 7:03 PM
Rep Brian Baird, D-WA, supported the bill until the teabaggers showed up in his district and scared Hell out of him.
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geofu54
November 7, 2009 8:09 PM
Apparently, they think this will play so well with female voters.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/07/gop-gone-wild/
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geofu54
November 7, 2009 11:11 PM
219! Whew!
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geofu54
November 7, 2009 11:13 PM in reply to geofu54
And 220. And it's a "bipartisan" bill, dammit!
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Andreams
November 7, 2009 11:43 PM
Wooooeeeee!
Got it! The blue scum who "represents" me voted no and he's the loser. He will pay at the polls.
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Jackster
November 7, 2009 11:43 PM
Remove the Southern DINO's and the perspective changes a bunch. Now those blue balls will have to answer to the majority voice of their Democratic constituents.
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neesy08
November 7, 2009 11:53 PM
the divisiveness does not bother me. the differenced between the gop nd the dems is the dems think for themselves. the gop act like zombies: what one does the others do as well.
cao had to vote with the dems, he represents a african-american district, who strongly support obama and this bill. as long as the dems get the work done, the split does not bother me
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baltimore
November 8, 2009 6:56 AM
Kucinich also voted against the bill!
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CVille Dem
November 8, 2009 2:30 PM in reply to baltimore
I saw that. I was wondering if he did it in protest because it was so watered-down, or because of the "Stupid" Amendment.
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patmcgrowen
November 8, 2009 12:33 PM
Cantor says: "There will be one bipartisan vote today, and that is against Speaker Pelosi's overhaul of health care. There will not be a bipartisan vote for this bill."
Thanks, Rep Cao for making Cantor a liar. Priceless.
I'm proud that the democrat party is not just a rubber stamp brigade. As long as they represent their constituents, it's fine. The dem party has a big tent. They are no doubt the party of diversity, as is this nation. The Purity Party is a minority party.
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