This is a terrible bill. I hope it fails to pass. Without a Robust Medicare style PO it has absolutely no cost containment and worse the Forced mandate will just herd people into over priced lousy Private Monopoly plans. The Dems. IMO have totally sold us all out to the very same Big Health mafia Corps. that are already sucking the life out of our society. The Dems. have twisted health Care reform into a another huge Wall st. bail out here.

I feel bad for Congressman Dingell having to listen to this nonsense from the Repubs...

I predict that the Dems who voted against health Insurance reform will be taking credit for its passage in elections to come.

WTF? So, there'll be a floor vote on abortion, but not on Medicare +5? Even though some of the anti-choicers have said they'd support Med +5?

That's crap. Progressive Caucus should demand a floor vote. We're outlawing abortion coverage and getting nothing in return!

I predict that Health Care Reform is now substantially dead. Blue Dogs have managed to insidiously and duplicitously polarize this on a whole different level with abortion.
Thank you Obama for your cowardly leadership. This would never have come to ahead had you taken any initiative in this. It was entirely foreseeable (and hence avoidable) that Stupak blue dogs would exploit this issue... Progressives will not VOTE for a de facto reduction in pro-choice rights. (see forceful Planned Parenthood release). What happens now?
1.Stupak amendment passes
2.Progressives + Republicans block final bill
3.Bill is redrafted; exchanges removed, public option removed entirely.
4.minor health insurance law reform passed.
I can only congratulate Obama and Democrats with expending all their political capital on a bill that John McCain could have passed.
The greatest blame goes to Obama on this for his lack of leadership behind the scenes. He has lost all sway and clout, when a New Jersey first term representative dismisses the White House overtures to support the bill!!!
This Presidency is over here and now.

In the unlikely scenario, that the anti-abortion Health Reform Plan does pass, it may bode even worse for the future of Obama reforms: capitulate on hard-fought progressive rights in exchange for a facade of new reform.

I just hope all the progressive blogs are keeping track of who maneuvered to weaken reform, who was a hero holding the line, and how every member voted. Then we need a calendar so we get reminders when their primary and general elections approach. I can't keep track of so many players, but I would like the opportunity to support the heroes and those who challenge the villains.

Over the long haul, we need to improve the mix of Democrats we have to work with so that once this bill is law, we can improve it over the decades to come.