Obviously, they aren't going to vote until they have the votes...no way Pelosi let's this get defeated on the floor. Won't happen.

Thrown the anti-choicers their bone and move on. It's not worth delaying this thing any longer over that argument. Ditto the immigrant stuff. Those are other fights better handled outside of the healthcare bill. (although that criticism is best directed at those who are trying to make this about abortion and immigration)

The third party Blue Dog Democrats are giving us trouble, and I pray that every one of them is primaried in 2010.

Just vote and pass this damn thing and move on. There are a thousand other things that need to be done pronto and we are dithering on this. Financial regulation, more stimulus to generate jobs, lobbying reform, cap and trade, etc., etc., etc. There are only a few months left before congress will shut down because of the 2010 elections. Move it people, move it.

I think the Democrats should first hold a vote to have all the republican representatives locked in the basement for the next two months, and then proceed with the business at hand.

They can they do that, right?

I read earlier that thwe Hispanic caucus was threatening to vote no if some of their immigration concerns were not addressed.

People need to get around this stuff. I remember when the ERA was making the rounds in all the state legislatures. One after another was passing it, and it looked like a shoe-in. That is until it got to the Illinois legislature, where the black caucus voted no to push some political point they just had to make. Illinois normally would have passed this and it would have gone on to passage. Except the momentum was broken here.
I often wonder if the ERA would have been useful to black women over the intervening years. This is the point of unity.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the bill passes due to votes from Garamendi and especially Owens?

I am quite surprised that every member of Congress is not opposed to abortion since their mothers chose not to abort them.