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Is Charlie Crist The Next Moderate GOPer On Right-Wing Hit List?

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No matter what the final outcome, the NY-23 race has changed the game for Republican primaries. Conservatives across the country are now in a search for the next Dede Scozzafava, the establishment GOP nominee Conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman was able to defeat by convincing rank-and-file Republicans to leave the candidate their party's leaders had chosen.

In Florida, Marco Rubio's campaign says conservatives have found their new Dede in Gov. Charlie Crist.

Gov. Charlie Crist was expected to walk away with the race when he declared his intentions to run for the state's open Senate seat earlier this year. The popular Crist has a broad base in Florida that extends to some Democrats, and his fundraising prowess is unmatched.

For a national GOP looking for an easy win in a state that went for President Obama, on paper Crist was perfect. And in due course, the national GOP signed on. NRSC chair John Cornyn actually recruited Crist to run, and immediately backed his bid when he finally did. Crist lived up to the expectations -- he broke all past Florida fundraising records in his first quarter as a candidate and built up big leads over likely Democratic nominee, Rep. Kendrick Meek, in early polls.

Throughout the summer the fly in the national GOP's ointment in the race was Marco Rubio, a former state House speaker with well-established conservative credentials who entered the Republican primary a couple of weeks before Crist got in. Rubio picked at Crist's public support for Obama's stimulus and earned some national support from elements of the party's right wing, like Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC). But large conservative groups like the Club For Growth stayed away, citing Rubio's low fundraising numbers and poor showing in polls.

That started to change in the past few months, after Rubio raised over $1 million and local activists started handing him victories over Crist in county GOP straw polls across Florida. Polls began to tighten in the GOP primary as well, with Rubio closing to within striking distance of the once-untouchable Crist. Rubio earned more public support, too, singing Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) to his side, and he grabbed headlines and national media appearances as Crist's once-legendary support appeared to be more fragile than most national observers originally thought.

Rubio officials expect that support from national activists will ramp up now that conservatives have NY-23 under their belts.

"What you'll find tomorrow is a lot of conservatives will look around and say, and say 'where else is this happening?'" Rubio spokesperson Alex Burgos said in an interview today. "A lot came together essentially at the last minute in New York 23. In our case, it doesn't have to be that way. This is a campaign and a candidate that conservatives can get behind early and have an effect."

Rubio has already benefited from the example set by the Hoffman campaign. Rep. Jeff Miller (R-FL) called out Cornyn yesterday on Facebook, claiming the NRSC chair's support for Hoffman but not Rubio was "kind of ironic." Rush Limbaugh is on the air these days making the connection between NY-23 and the Florida Senate race, too.

What's more, Rubio already has the backing of Dick Armey, the former House Republican Majority Leader who played a big role in Hoffman's campaign in New York. Armey was among Rubio's earliest national supporters and it's likely he'll turn his attentions back to Rubio now that the Hoffman bid is done.

And more big name national conservatives are signing on. Earlier today Erick Erickson at RedState.com said that he's ready to bring the "conservative revolution" in northern New York to the warmer climes of Florida. "#NY23 is our Lexington," he tweeted. "And FL-SEN is Concord."

Burgos says it's not certain that Crist will be the conservative movement's next Scozzafava, but he said Rubio forces have been "excited" by the NY-23 race and expect that whatever happens there tonight will give Rubio a big national boost. The campaign has a new website aimed at reminding national conservatives of Crist's past support for Obama's stimulus, featuring the pair in what appears to be close conversation. The site, CharlieAndObama.com, launched today -- just as conservatives began looking for their new NY-23.

"That photo is symbolic of not just Crist's willingness to embrace the stimulus," Burgos said. "It's also a willingness to embrace a number of Obama's policies conservatives have a problem with." Burgos said the list included cap and trade and "higher taxes."

"I wouldn't call it vindication," Burgos said when asked if NY-23 made him want t give an "I told you so" to all the national party leaders who rejected Rubio's bid. "But it shows we're not alone in this. [NY-23] is a pretty prominent race where a conservative has stuck to his guns and done well. It's the same way with Marco. A lot of people left him for dead but he never lost sight of his conscience."

"We're hoping that once the job is finished in NY 23 folks will look to this race as the next stop," Burgos added.

As for Crist, even Democrats are saying he's in real trouble in the state he was once expected to win handily.

"It's very possible that Charlie Crist will lose the Senate nomination in Florida," former DNC chair Howard Dean said in an interview with TPMDC today. "Actually I think it's likely."

The Crist campaign did not respond to a request for comment on this story.

Late Update: Crist campaign adviser Eric Eikenberg called TPMDC after our story posted. Here's what he said in response to conservatives preparing to land in Florida:

Comparing NY-23 and the Florida Senate race is "apples and oranges," he said. "They're reaching a little too far on this one."

Scozzafava "is pro-choice, pro-gay rights and a liberal fiscally," he added. "Crist's record is a conservative record. It's a lot about nothing when they try to make the comparison."

Eikenberg said that when national conservatives get a good look at Rubio, they'll see he's no Doug Hoffman. "I'm not sure they're aware of his record," he said. "The issue for us is that it needs to be explained."

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November 3, 2009 3:52 PM   

Finally. the Republicans are eating their own.

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November 3, 2009 9:26 PM    in reply to Publishermike

Their own? Skuzzyfuzzy isn't a bit conservative. What a hoot.

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November 4, 2009 10:12 AM    in reply to ShawninMo

so one has to be a "conservative" in order to be a republican? no room for more moderate viewpoints? not very welcoming.

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November 5, 2009 12:21 AM    in reply to otis

Exactly how many views does someone need to hare with others to be a member of a party? According to the left, none. What in the world is the point? Pro-choice, big government and pro-gay marriage are just a few of the bigger ones and she shares none of them. So along comes someone who does share those views and republicans are the bad guys? Hell, dems kicked out poor Joe lieberman for only being for the war on terror.

And the right is hypocritical.

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November 4, 2009 1:04 PM    in reply to ShawninMo

But the teabagger managed to turn a sure-thing into a defeat....in a district that hasn't been Dem in over 150 years, the same district where the last R had a ginormous margin of victory. So it boggles the mind how this is some sort of good thing for the ultra right wing. However, if they want to apply the lessons of NY-23 to other races, I'm more than happy to take the additional D victories.

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November 3, 2009 3:56 PM   

Charlie Crist isn't necessarily the enemy of the right cuz he's "moderate"...though that doesn't help him.

He's going cuz he's gay. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/outrage/trailer

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November 3, 2009 3:57 PM   

Charlie Crist isn't necessarily the enemy of the right cuz he's "moderate"...though that doesn't help him.

He's going cuz he's gay. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/outrage/trailer

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November 3, 2009 4:07 PM   

Delaware's Mike Castle is only moderate because hates the unborn. (e.g. pushed for stem cell research) You would think that would get under the skin of a the "real" patriotic Republican Americans.

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November 3, 2009 4:19 PM    in reply to Delaware330

They haven't found an 'electable' carpetbagger yet. Give them some more time.

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November 4, 2009 8:18 AM    in reply to Delaware330

He voted for cap & trade too.

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November 3, 2009 4:21 PM   

The R's created their own monster. The religious, racist, and greedy (three distinct groups by the way, not necessarily one) got juiced on the propaganda developed by Republican think-tanks, and now the R party begins to reap what it sowed. Instead of defeating Democrats, they're defeating themselves, being run out of their own party by the extremists they recruited (because, of course, they never really believed the crap they spouted off to the wingers, and now they're getting called on it). R's gave the fringe a home, losing their own in the process.

While some progressives/liberals may think this is a good thing, I'm not so sure. Wingers enjoy more power than ever, now that they're fully behind the wheels of a Party most Americans still believe is legitimate. Who knows what comes next, but I wouldn't underestimate the ability of the wingnuts to seriously damage the country again in the next 6-10 years.

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November 3, 2009 4:29 PM   

Ah, this really is a shame. Crist actually is pretty good for a republican. It really is scary how wacky the repukes are getting. These fools shouldn't be in power. How is it possible? I definitely don't want one party rule and everyone knows the dems will screw up and we will wind up with another wacko in the white house. That is frightening.

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November 3, 2009 4:42 PM    in reply to Michael A

Don't lament excessive Democratic successes till you see today's poll results.

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November 3, 2009 4:43 PM    in reply to Michael A

Kinda what I was getting at. 2nd.

Then again, maybe this will usher in a new 3rd Party, and we could get away from this bipolar political system which is itself a huge problem.

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November 3, 2009 4:43 PM   

I don't believe Meek could beat Rubio. I say make Crist a "Specter offer", and get Sen. Lemieux to be the 60th vote for HCR.

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November 3, 2009 4:50 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

All the easier if his party forsakes him. But I don't think it will go that far. Scozzafava was a nobody. Harder to dump a big name (and money-raiser) like Crist. But the wingers will try, and those who oppose them (by supporting Crist) will soon find themselves in the winger's crosshairs. Boy, it's gotta suck to be a Republican right now.

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November 3, 2009 5:15 PM   

Yeah, it's become crazy-time, and Steele and the national GOP should have seen this coming. By endorsing Hoffman, they put every moderate GOP'er ("moderate" meaning being to the left of Rushus Obesious) in the crosshairs.

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November 3, 2009 5:36 PM   

Pass the popcorn! This is going to be fun!

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November 3, 2009 5:44 PM   

It's not going to stop at Florida. Illinois, New Hampshire, Colorado, and California all have Republican primaries where the establishment candidate is relatively centrist and has NRSC backing but are being challenged by a wingnut contender (and PA would be on the list too had Specter not switched). I think come 2010 a lot of these folks will be blindsided out the nomination, but to the ill effect of the GOP. There's a reason why the NRSC endorsed these guys - they knew that only relatively moderate Republicans who take on a conciliatory tone could win in Obama states. NY-23 is not the rest of the nation but I don't think the teabaggers see that. All this will lead to is an increased chance for an Obama landslide in 2012, which I honestly think is the only way to shut these people up. That or they will form a third party that would forever destroy the Republican Party.

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November 3, 2009 5:54 PM   

Minneso is absolutely right. Even here in Texas, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, who is nobody's idea of a moderate, is likely to lose the primary for governor to Rick Perry, the far-right nutjob incumbent who is stroking the base for all it's worth.

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November 3, 2009 5:56 PM   

Evanto: "Is Charlie Crist The Next Moderate GOPer On Right-Wing Hit List?"

Otter: "Next?"

Boon: "Forget it, he's rolling."


John, thinking Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son...

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November 3, 2009 5:58 PM   

It's Florida.....that says it all.

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November 3, 2009 6:10 PM   

Why is he orange? Does it come off when he swims?

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November 3, 2009 6:21 PM   

RINO bestiality

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November 3, 2009 6:52 PM   

I didn't know Crist was considered a moderate. Oh well.

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November 3, 2009 7:21 PM    in reply to Cheryl44

Crist is so moderate that I almost like him, and I oppose any Republican on principle.

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November 3, 2009 7:14 PM   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Crist

As attorney general, he was noted for his efforts to expand the authority of his office to prosecute civil rights violations and protect the environment, as well as his involvement in the Terri Schiavo case, where he broke with governor Jeb Bush on pursuing legal options to preserve her life.

That's slightly moderate.

He was elected governor in 2006 with 52.4% of the vote (against opponent Jim Davis), and has taken conservative positions on a broad range of social issues, including support for bans on gay marriage, gay adoption, gun rights, and capital punishment.

Pretty straight up conservative there.

He has diverged from Republican orthodoxy on fiscal management and environmental policy, particularly while working with the Obama administration on the federal stimulus package, opposing some forms of offshore oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and using state funds to purchase land in an effort to restore the Florida Everglades.

One suspect that's where the wingnuts think he's a screaming liberal: he's not a teabagging Grover type.

On the other hand, one would suspect that Charlie's fiscal ideas fit in very well with ConservaDems in the Senate and Blue Dogs. He's only "moderate" relative to the extreme direction the GOP has taken, and that much of the Dem party has drifted over into being "moderate" (i.e. really conservative in the 70s) from the 90s on forward.

I don't think anyone would argue that Crist is a 1970s Moderate Republican like Howard Baker. That species is dead, as both "moderate" Republicans like Snowe and "centerist" Dems like Ben Nelson are quite far to the *right* of where Baker had been.

John

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November 4, 2009 10:51 AM   

I love that Newsmax is sending out a typically fulsome, odious email about the conservative "sweep" - fricking idiots! Hoffman lost, and the only reason the wingnuts didn't try to do something similar in New Jersey is that they didn't think of it in time. Christie is a brainless screw-up, but if the wingnuts want to claim him as one of their own - please, by all means, do so. He's not, but the more they try to insist he is, the even bigger disastrous catastrophe he'll become.

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