Limbaugh, On Obama's Visit To West Point: 'Will They Detain Him? Hopefully'

dswx

November 25, 2009 3:16 PM

And yet radio stations let him get away with it. Can you imagine if the same thing was said about Reagan??

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LisB

November 25, 2009 3:38 PM in reply to dswx

Well said. Excellent point.

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jeffgee

November 25, 2009 5:24 PM in reply to dswx

Nixon would have called his pal J. Edgar Hoover to start wiretapping.

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Overreach THIS!

November 25, 2009 5:44 PM in reply to dswx

Didn't Eric just let him get away with it?? I'm confused, if not.

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kaylaspop

November 25, 2009 6:03 PM in reply to dswx

Or, heaven forbid, Dumbya.

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tonigo

November 25, 2009 8:44 PM in reply to kaylaspop

Not that I'm defending what Rush said by any means, but there was a film out a few years ago called "The Assassination of George W. Bush". The Left can get nasty too.

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:44 PM in reply to tonigo

That film was made in Britian, ass.

But it's no wonder you jerks have to come up with irrelevancies: you don't have anything legitimate to offer or say.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 3:54 PM in reply to JNagarya

one more equivocation invocation...

We're getting a lot of this "Yeah well, so's your mother.." kind of debate these days, just words intended to provoke hostility, not thought.

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JNagarya

November 26, 2009 8:20 PM in reply to JEP07

His mother wears combat boots.

And rides shotgun on a garbage truck.

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tonigo

November 27, 2009 10:11 AM in reply to JNagarya

Oh that's right, there is no Left in Britain. How foolish of me.

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JNagarya

November 27, 2009 11:04 PM in reply to tonigo

We can be relieveed, of course, that the Bushit criminal enterprise wasn't Left; it was far-RIGHT. The "Left" -- as you hope -- made a film which hurt no one: such freedom of speech should be outlawed.

But the saintly Bushit criminal enterprise, because torture is wrong, turtured ALLEGED torturers in order to reduce the incidence of torture.

And over 100 of those tortured -- without the bother of finding them guilty of anything -- died as consequence, a number of those found to be MURDER.

But let's wring our hands, weep, and whine about a film made in Britain.

And while we're at it, let's be intellectually dishonest, also, by condemning Clinon for being not guilty of perjury.

ANYTHING to distract from the commission of war crimes by the thugs you admire and defend on the most depraved of grounds.

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Overreach THIS!

November 26, 2009 7:34 PM in reply to tonigo

That's funny, though, because it looks 100% like you are defending what the fat, drug-addict, ignoramus said. So if you hadn't informed, one might have thought you were engaged in what you appeared exactly to be doing.

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tonigo

November 27, 2009 10:09 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!

Then you woefully misunderstood my point, which is that either side is capable of gross insults and offensive behavior.

So nice to see my fellow "progressives" are capable or civil debate and self-reflection.

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shooter242

November 25, 2009 8:08 PM in reply to dswx

Reagan wouldn't be dissing the military so that potential analogy fails. The liberal equivalent would be hoping Regan be detained by Sen. Pat Schroeder's vagina. ("I have a vagina and I know how to use it.")

But as always context is everything. Just before the joke was a segment where a caller described the White House fury at the snipers killing the pirates to save the captured Captain, and retaliating by charging Seals who just captured the guy who killed and mutilated the four Blackwater employees in Fallujah. The charge is giving the terrorist a fat lip in the process of capture.
Limbaugh's joke is nothing compared to that travesty.

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:46 PM in reply to shooter242

It's a joke?

Limbaugh is a joke. And I've never heard of the joke being the comedian.

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Armageddon T. Thunderbird

November 26, 2009 5:50 AM in reply to shooter242

Reagan, the senile loser who quadrupled the National debt and never submitted a single balanced budget? That Reagan? The one who looted the treasury so he could bribe all the billionaires to support him? That Reagan. The Reagan who's wife used to bring Satanic astrologers into the White House? That Reagan?

By the way - what did Reagan do during World War II? I'll tell you...he acted in the movie "Bedtime for Bonzo".

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Captain Dan

November 26, 2009 8:16 AM in reply to shooter242

You are the travesty! See you in the Tahaddi ring!

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wellstone

November 26, 2009 10:01 AM in reply to shooter242

As usual, Shooter shooting blanks, paintballs filled with smear.

You ASSCLOWN, it's not "The White House", it's the MILITARY who properly charged the Seals with breaking MILITARY rules. They will be

But don't let the facts stop you: They never have yet.

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Signalman

November 26, 2009 1:22 PM in reply to shooter242

Cadets attempting to "detain" the President would certainly earn adverse UCMJ action under Articles 81, 88, 91, 94, 97 and most likely Articles 133 and 134 as well.

Only a blind and willful partisan could characterize incitement to such action as a "joke." But it is certainly understandable that such comments would come from people who lack the courage of their own convictions and will not act thereon, and instead attempt to induce others to do their dirty work for them.

Translation: Limbaugh and Shooter haven't got the nuts to do it themselves, so they express a wish for others to do it for them.

If "patriots" of that sort had been the rule in 1770s North America, we'd be watching cricket and drinking tea today, not watching football and drinking beer.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 2:42 PM in reply to shooter242

Hooter's back!

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 2:47 PM in reply to JEP07

It is always nice to be apprised of the wingnuts' wingiest take on the latest Rove talking points. I find old' Hooster to be a wealth of information, almost invariably his posts simply parrot what the Drudges and Malkins are spewing.

Seriously, Hooter's a reliable source of information about the "other side" and he's he's about as far to that end as they can get and still know how to string a coherent sentence together.

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howie

November 27, 2009 9:44 AM in reply to shooter242

Are you claiming soemthing that is obviously false-that the President is dissing the military despite the constant attention and acknowledgment he gives them-or are you claiming something ludicrous-that Reagan was sleeping with Pat Schroeder?

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howie

November 27, 2009 9:46 AM in reply to shooter242

...or did I stupidly have my snark detector turned off? (I hate when that happens.)

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toxophilite

November 25, 2009 3:40 PM

He and his ilk used to say the same thing about Clinton. They used to suggest that if Clinton was shot by a patriotic soldier, well, what could you expect?

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thomas1

November 25, 2009 3:45 PM in reply to toxophilite

that was Jessie Helms, a F'ing US Senator!

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Stiggs

November 26, 2009 1:07 AM in reply to thomas1

Oh, Jesse. (The photo you want is #8. OT, I know but damn thats good.)

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holyhandgrenaid

November 25, 2009 3:45 PM

Will someone euthanize* Limbaugh with an axe? Hopefully.

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jeffgee

November 25, 2009 5:26 PM in reply to holyhandgrenaid

A stroke, on the air, followed by aphasia would be ironic karma for the Palm Beach Windbag.

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UTMark

November 25, 2009 6:42 PM in reply to jeffgee

Yeah, I was just joking about Rush having a blocked coronary artery when he visits his doctor next week.

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MollyNYC

November 25, 2009 8:22 PM in reply to jeffgee

He did something close: all that oxycontin destroyed his hearing--and this is a guy who works in radio. He has a cochlear implant.

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MollyNYC

November 25, 2009 8:41 PM in reply to MollyNYC

← Jackass.

Oops.

I'm no particular fan of Limbaugh's, but I just looked around and realized that all the information suggesting that oxycodone causes deafness comes from Wikipedia. There doesn't seem to be anything in the ENT literature to suggest this relationship.

My apologies, y'all.

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ejg3

November 25, 2009 4:10 PM

I would say that Rush was channeling Benedict Arnold except that Arnold had a military record.

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SOS ICEBERG

November 25, 2009 4:30 PM in reply to ejg3

...and lacked erectile dysfunction and drug addiction, as far as we know.

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:47 PM in reply to SOS ICEBERG

And was a patriot before he turned against his country.

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rayboat

November 25, 2009 4:46 PM

Fuck that lily livered drug addict chicken shit

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Hussein Stemper

November 25, 2009 5:16 PM in reply to rayboat

+1

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:50 PM in reply to rayboat

Hey, watch it: the guy suffers from a pimple on his ass.

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Armageddon T. Thunderbird

November 26, 2009 5:52 AM in reply to JNagarya

For him that's a brain tumor.

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mfarmer

November 25, 2009 5:00 PM

My son is a cadet at West Point. That comment is an insult to him and to the honor of every soldier in the United States military.

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Overreach THIS!

November 25, 2009 5:46 PM in reply to mfarmer

And you are right, I'm sorry to say, Mfarmer.

Thank you deeply to your son and your family for his service.

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chuck DC

November 25, 2009 6:05 PM in reply to mfarmer

I am a grad and want to choke that fat bastard for this disrespect.

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slb

November 25, 2009 6:43 PM in reply to mfarmer

I agree with you. It's an insult not just to the cadets, but to every professional military man and woman. One of the deepest traditions of the United States military is subordination to civilian authority, and I know that the true professionals take that very seriously.

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MoCrash

November 25, 2009 6:56 PM in reply to slb

Since he never served in the military, Limbaugh would know nothing about its standards of duty and honor.

Of course, he probably believes that MacArthur was right to defy Truman in Korea. Conservatives at the time did.

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:54 PM in reply to MoCrash

Limbaugh doesn't, either, have any sense of honor, respect, dignity, or decency from his experience outside the military as a professional chickenhawk.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 3:30 PM in reply to JNagarya

Here's a challenge!

Lets put The Lump and Obama out on the West Point obstacle course for a mano-e-mano test! Cameras rolling, both of them wired for sound...

I'd bet the odds in London betting parlors, against The Lump finishing the first fifty yards, would be pretty high. All the oxy's in the world couldn't propel that tub of lard over the first hurdle.

It would certainly be a worldwide viewed event!

But then we'd have to see ol' Lump in gym shorts, it might be too much to handle...

Trivial, yes...
Childish, of course,
Likely? Not likely...
But wouldn't it be great!

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JNagarya

November 26, 2009 8:16 PM in reply to JEP07

I'd suggest they go head-to-head in a b-ball shoot, but I think we know why Minburger would decline.

It's the era of reality TeeVee, anyway.

I don't watch "reality" TeeVee, but I'd skim the news reports about it.

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ilovebacon

November 25, 2009 5:00 PM

Haha! Limbaugh looks like he's in terrible health (as do Lou Dobbs and Cock Cheney). They're nearing the end.

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acf_ma

November 25, 2009 5:12 PM

Are these photos, headlines, and articles designed to inform, or keep the readers suitably agitated against the likes of Limbaugh and his Republican acolytes? I think TPM should lean more to reporting and less to agitating and show more restraint in headline writing. BTW, Limbaugh and his supporters are what he looks like, pork.

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Lalo35adm

November 25, 2009 5:49 PM in reply to acf_ma

"designed to inform, or keep the readers suitably agitated"?

If you noticed a significant decline in rec's and participation in the TPM Cafe, you'd know the answer by now.

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runfastandwin

November 25, 2009 5:57 PM in reply to Lalo35adm

Lalo, mehtinks you spend too much time "noticing" what goes on in TPM cafe.

acf_ma, it's called "headline" for a reason. So people will read it and, hopefully, the article.

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:56 PM in reply to runfastandwin

LaLa hasn't anything of value to contribute. He's a waste of skin.

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acf_ma

November 26, 2009 12:03 AM in reply to runfastandwin

We have a paper, here in Boston, called the Herald. It's a Rupert Murdoch style tabloid that resorts to those kind of headlines to attract passersby to buy their rag. The paper depends on single issue sales, not subscriptions, so the otherwise uninterested need a sharp hook to get them to pick up the paper. Before I consider reading a TPM article, I have already made the decision and effort to go to the TPM page. I am an interested reader, and don't need that hook to get me to read their writing.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 2:54 PM in reply to acf_ma

for the first time, I think Ll35's a bit thick in the brick...

Can't imagine why one of the top political blogs on the web would lose traffic after the biggest election in history is over?

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LisB

November 25, 2009 5:52 PM in reply to acf_ma

The only time I get agitated is when I sit on top of a washing machine during its spin cycle.

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Lalo35adm

November 25, 2009 5:57 PM in reply to LisB

You're pretty funny tonight, Ms Mellow. :-)

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LisB

November 25, 2009 6:34 PM in reply to Lalo35adm

Yeah, well, don't get used to it. I still want that hat...

;)

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barrelhse

November 25, 2009 7:00 PM in reply to LisB

Tie me up and call me Maytag!

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Observerinvancouver

November 25, 2009 6:30 PM in reply to acf_ma

Didn't Sun Tzu say something like needing to know the enemy in order to defeat him?

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MoCrash

November 25, 2009 6:58 PM in reply to acf_ma

Since he never served in the military, Limbaugh would know nothing about its standards of duty and honor.

Of course, he probably believes that MacArthur was right to defy Truman in Korea. Conservatives at the time did.

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MoCrash

November 25, 2009 7:01 PM in reply to acf_ma

acf ma, you must be new in town. I've followed TPM since its earliest days, and the only thing substantially different now is the expansion of its scope (along with its staff, which didn't exist when Josh was blogging solo).

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 9:58 PM in reply to MoCrash

Correct.

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acf_ma

November 25, 2009 11:53 PM in reply to MoCrash

I've been here since the original TPM site appeared, before the rest of the TPM family of sites was developed. I've lived through all the software update tribulations. It may be that my tolerance of the style is wearing thin, even though I generally share the point of view presented. This is not a TPM problem, it's just where I happened to mention it.

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eric the red

November 25, 2009 9:42 PM in reply to acf_ma

Politics and those that follow it are like sports and those that follow a sport. One can watch, comment, scream, celebrate during a game. Similarly, you can follow an election or issue as it is going on. In either case, you can check in when the game/controversial issue or election is over and see what happened. In either case do the fans/politicos make a difference? No. But it is what people want to do.

I could be agitated about the next NFL game or the health care debate but probably have the same ability to affect either. Yet, I come here, read, and comment from time to time. I find it interesting and even intellectually stimulating at times. Maybe the latter part IS different from sports. Also, I am informed at cocktail parties.

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mistersnrub

November 25, 2009 6:10 PM

Limbaugh talks a big game but he is a straight-up coward and he knows it. His self-loathing is as palpable as his flop-sweat. He has all the money in the world, but he will die alone and miserable, and he will be judged by history as another Father Coughlin.

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Shoto

November 25, 2009 6:44 PM in reply to mistersnrub

Typical bully mentality. If he was ever presented with a real challenge to his vile rhetoric, he'd run screaming to his mommy with his tail between his legs...

There's a reason why he almost never shows up as a contributor to a legitimate roundtable. Hell, he's too much of a pussy to even show up on Meet the Press...

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Armageddon T. Thunderbird

November 26, 2009 6:01 AM in reply to Shoto

He's not a bully...he's a traitor and a coward....the trouble is...he thinks the fine young men & women at USMA are traitors and cowards too - just like him

But they are the totally opposite.
First of all, Limbaugh is a chickenhawk. They are not.
Second - Limbaugh is a loser college dropout - they are not.
Third Limbaugh is a synthetic heroin addict, Cadets are not junkies.
Cadets walk the talk....Limbaugh is a verbal sewer pipe.
Cadets support Americans and America....Limbaugh is a piece of shit shill for billionaires.

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Kuyleh

November 25, 2009 6:17 PM

Former Soldier here volunteering to go "detain" Limbaugh...I do not claim responsibility for what happens to him afterward.

Fucking scum.

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FebM

November 25, 2009 6:17 PM

I think Rush is really afraid and you know what? He has a reason, Obama is the most powerful guy on the planet, and for the first time he does not fit in the little box Rush defines of who SHOULD be in that position.

So to Rush, it will be a long 8yrs....

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 3:37 PM in reply to FebM

"I think Rush is really afraid"

Agreed. Something or SOMEONE has The Lump scared, and he's desperate, doubling down, and dodging around like a trapped lemming.

If he is ever indicted for some act of perversion, or another drug crime, no matter how egregious, he'll holler "political persecution."

Sounds like he's already gearing up for that now.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 3:59 PM in reply to JEP07

Does The Lump suspect all those records about his personal indiscretions that were gathered under the Bush administraton under the Patriot Axe might be leaked by the Obama Administration?

Just food for thought...

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MyMy

November 25, 2009 6:33 PM

I do think Limbaugh's escalation in rhetoric, bordering on treason, is prompted by some real panic on his part that the rest of us aren't seeing the reason for.

He's not just into grabbing headlines--his vile statements are really prayers for some kind of overthrow of this government, as he cannot see any democratic method of ousting them from power (his real dream). He's just hoping someone will catch his drift and act on it.

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Shoto

November 25, 2009 6:38 PM in reply to MyMy

"He's just hoping someone will catch his drift and act on it."

Same as for Glenn Beck, etal...

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mass_murdock

November 25, 2009 6:53 PM in reply to MyMy

"... the rest of us aren't seeing the reason for." You said it. The gap is so wide that we (and they) just don't get each other. We can only speculate on each other's motivations, and analyze what our opponents do and say with real wonder. How could Obama get elected in the first place? How could Palin be so stupid? How come the USA has not already risen up in violent revolution? How could anyone listen to Limbaugh without a gun to their head?

You can call it left/right, or GOP/dem, or smart/dumbass, or crazy/sane, but that's not right, we don't have a name for this. But when we say "fat, dumbass, treasonous teabagging kooks" and they say "islamo-fascist terrorist-hugging traitors" we all seem to know who we are talking about. Did you ever think you would miss Goldwater's brand of republicanism? Or even Nixon's? It's quaint. An honest desire for small government, on it's own merits? What Nixon thought of as a dirty trick? And what he got busted for? It's a far cry from where they are headed now.

TPM is the home of snark, clucking and head shaking, but this is serious stuff, and I'm afraid we are going to wish someday that we took them more seriously.

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Scott in PacNW

November 25, 2009 7:21 PM in reply to mass_murdock

Did you ever think you would miss Goldwater's brand of republicanism? Or even Nixon's? It's quaint. An honest desire for small government, on it's own merits?

Goldwater had principle. Nixon none. Huge difference.

They think they're sunny Reagan optimists, but today's rump GOP 26 percenters are the Nixon/Strom GOP. Backward, underhanded, fearmongering, paranoid & unlovable.

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Apphouse50

November 25, 2009 9:43 PM

I wonder how Rush And The Dittohedz would like themselves to be the subject of the question: "Will they detain them? Hopefully."

I know some of the teabaggers are already recognizing the possibility that the same prying eyes launched under Bush may now be trained on them, and some of them are cautioning others to watch what they say. Rush, evidently, feels no such inclination toward reticence. I wonder why.

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JNagarya

November 25, 2009 10:03 PM in reply to Apphouse50

Rush, evidently, feels no such inclination toward reticence. I wonder why.
_____

Becasue he's a loud-mouthed asshole.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 3:04 PM in reply to JNagarya

...who mistakes his own ignorant prejudice for personal conviction, and incites even worse prejudice in others.

(Sorry, JN, your comment seemed somehow incomplete.)

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margoharris

November 25, 2009 9:51 PM

They are trying to stir-up racial unrest and political chaos. It has been a travesty since Jan 20th.

"Republican's are the party that say that government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it."---PJ O'Rourke

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Bert Chadick

November 26, 2009 12:25 AM

I think this comment encouraging mutiny would be a good reason to kick the his sorry ass off Armed Forces Radio.

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andyfrombrooklyn

November 26, 2009 7:37 AM in reply to Bert Chadick

no! he can't be still on armed forces radio. unbelievable.

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 2:40 PM in reply to andyfrombrooklyn

smells like shadow government...

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andyfrombrooklyn

November 26, 2009 7:35 AM

and remember ..bush had this guy programmed to the troops in iraq for years. i wonder when that stopped...has it?

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11A7E

November 26, 2009 9:40 AM

Isn't what Limbaugh said an incictment to commit an act of treason?

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 2:38 PM in reply to 11A7E

an incictment to commit an act of treason?

It would seem the law must read
"Only under a Republican President..yada yad yada..."

Limpbaugh's rhetoric tends to match the mood of his worst wingnut listeners, who foment loudly on the air while the rest of the dittoheads watch like willing witnesses to a public beating by a bunch of bullies.

Obama's popularity remains very strong among his core base, any erosion has occurred around the edges, and that's not enough for the likes of The Lump.

Makes you wonder if there's some crazy General out there in dittoland, obsessed with precious bodily fluids, who might take The Lump seriously.

I agree, this is something that would have at least got his name tattooed on the no-fly list, under Bush. And might have spawned a "visit" by men in trenchcoats and sunglasses.

When does infotainment become incitement?

Similarly, when does infotainment break the rules of free speech?

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JEP07

November 26, 2009 3:11 PM

Here's a question for all the students of the Civil War who might want to participate in a little thought provocation;

What would Gen. Tecumseh Sherman have thought of the likes of The Lump?

Some available quotes..
“If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.”

They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast.”

My favorite, especially considering the likes of Cheney, Rove and The Lump, even W...

“It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.”

“In our Country . . . one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.”

And as for these wingnuts literally hijacking the Republican Party;
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

Let em' have it!

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ilovebacon

November 27, 2009 11:32 AM

Did anyone else see that PBS documentary, in the late 90s, about Limbaugh? It revealed that he experimented with homosexuality in his teenage years. I can't seem to locate a copy of that doc. But I wish someone would revisit that part of his life. It's only fair that a gay-basher who experimented with gay sex should be disclosed, no?

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