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NY-23 Update: Owens Maintains Lead, As Absentees Begin To Be Counted

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Here's a quick update on the NY-23 special election, in which Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative Doug Hoffman, and was sworn into office after Hoffman conceded, only to have Hoffman recently un-concede after late results showed him narrowing Owens' lead from around 5,000 votes to 3,000.

According to the Watertown Daily Times, the most up-to-date totals with partial absentee-ballot counts have Owens still ahead by 2,940 votes, with 5,570 absentees yet to be counted. If this were strictly a two-way race, Hoffman would need to take over 75% of the absentees to win -- and this is not a two-way race, and Hoffman is highly unlikely to get the margin he would need.

An important factor here is that Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava dropped out of the race and endorsed Owens, the weekend before the election. However, this was after the vast majority of absentee ballots would been sent in, and a significant number of absentees are for her. Out of 1,849 absentee ballots counted so far, Hoffman has picked up 833 votes, Owens 597, and Scozzafava 419 votes. Every vote for Scozzafava is effectively a wasted vote for our purposes, and has the effect of shrinking the available pool of votes for Hoffman.

Earlier today, Hoffman spokesman Rob Ryan told us: "We're monitoring the situation at all the Boards of Elections. It's a faint glimmer of light in the distance, but it's way in the distance."

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November 17, 2009 6:16 PM   

OT. Aren't those polls on obama's popularity a hoot. Every one is 52 or more approving to 42 or less disapproving. Except, . . . . Ratsmussen. Now, who ya going to believe?

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November 17, 2009 9:04 PM   

How close does the vote have to be, however, to force a recount (or does that even apply in this election)?

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November 18, 2009 12:11 AM    in reply to Nebton

Hoffman has conceded. Recounts cost money.

The vote would have to be damned close for the voting administrators to consider wasting the money on a recount.

I doubt there even exists a process for unconceding.

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November 18, 2009 12:34 AM   

To put in perspective, Minnesota's senate recount happened with a difference of a few hundred votes out of two million. Proportionately, I think this race would have to get into a margin of tens to be the same. I say this having no idea about New York's laws on recounts. The standard of requiring recounts when the difference is within half a percent is just Minnesota, so far as I know.

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November 18, 2009 3:48 AM    in reply to ericf

dems have the advantage. Rednecks don't go anywhere. They stay home and would vote. Dems are more wordly and likely to be someplace else like Paris, London, New York, Munich, Everybody talkin bout Pop Music. Nothing to see here.

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November 18, 2009 7:47 AM   

Well isn't that a shocker. A close race was Scott Murphy vs. Jump Shot Jim Tedisco in the 20th congressional district. That was a couple of weeks worth of recounts and came down to a few hundred votes.

Owen's is ahead by nearly three thousand and over half of the absentee ballots have been counted. No chance for a recount because it won't be anywhere near close.

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