Obama Calls For Revision In Stupak Amendment
President Obama said yesterday that the Stupak Amendment should be revised, in the hopes that neither pro-choicers nor pro-lifers feel "betrayed" by any change in the status quo. "I want to make sure that the provision that emerges meets that test," said Obama, "that we are not in some way sneaking in funding for abortions, but, on the other hand, that we're not restricting women's insurance choices."
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Clavis
November 10, 2009 9:21 AM
Democrats face a dilemma of juggling ideology, with the hard demands of the party's base, against the pragmatism of governing and maintaining a large majority.
What a preposterously false dichotomy. What a crock. The correct choice is to legislate based upon principles of liberalism, not to reward your corporate benefactors. Guess what? That'll keep you in the Majority. Remember?
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Stroszek
November 10, 2009 9:28 AM in reply to Clavis
Not at all. Your characterization makes it out as if the liberals in Congress could simply legislate their whims if they felt like it. They can't, and that is Miller's point. The dichotomy mentioned is between legislating at all and simply making speeches about how you refuse to pass bills because they can't match your ideals. Miller has been around long enough to know that there's plenty of time for noble rhetoric when you're in the minority.
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Indie Pro
November 10, 2009 10:05 AM in reply to Stroszek
this from the person who saw nothing wrong with the Stupak amendment. Wasn't it in yesterday's roundup when you implied people were wrong to be against it?
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Indie Pro
November 10, 2009 10:08 AM in reply to Indie Pro
Up.
My bad, it seems you were accuding people of lying:
"So who is telling the truth here?" is your quote.
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Clavis
November 10, 2009 6:24 PM in reply to Stroszek
It's not about "whims". Is the concept of American principles so foreign to you that you call them "whims"?
Maybe if we paid more attention to what was right instead of focusing on sausage-making and compromises with bad-faith actors, we wouldn't have a team of performers so willing to give in every time the right characterizes a debate in "our side is on the side of morality" terms.
The Republicans always make sure that the debate is pre-framed so that they appear to be the only side that actually cares about anything, while the Dems just come off like a hapless melange of special interests all just looking for their own measly weasly handouts.
My point is that Democrats proudly legislating like Democrats means, among other things, that they'd stop being afraid to tout liberalism. The debate on many issues would shift to the left if we seemed even half as proud of our principles as the idiot right does.
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howie
November 10, 2009 9:26 AM
My God! Does Barack Obama stand for ANYTHING? This whole "let's just call it a tie" thing is wearing really thin.
Either he favors the amendment sponsored by the C Street cult member or he doesn't.
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Stroszek
November 10, 2009 9:35 AM in reply to howie
Huh? He thinks Stupak goes beyond the bounds of the Hyde Amendment and needs to be altered to ensure that it's not more restrictive than the current status quo. Compliance with Hyde has been part of every iteration of health care reform since the start of this process.
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howie
November 10, 2009 10:59 AM in reply to Stroszek
Then he should say so instead of this mealy mouthed attempt to make sure no one goes away mad.
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matyra
November 10, 2009 12:24 PM in reply to howie
But he did say exactly that.
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VivaAmerica!
November 10, 2009 11:40 AM in reply to howie
He wants nothing to change regarding federal funding for abortions. Isn't that what status quo means? It's also clear that since both sides are threatening to sink the bill, he doesn't want to set anyone off more than they already are. I think you guys fail to remember that the President and any politician has to be careful about what they say. Like it or not. The hyperventilating that has occurred over the past several months proves that.
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Obama1st
November 10, 2009 9:37 AM
I agree that Obama is coming closer to edge of standing for "whatever" rather than standing for key isssues and positions. He is presiding over a dysfunctional Senate that proects its own and can not move forward. Obama must lead or jeopordize his agenda. Has he not learned that working with the GOP is killing hope and change and his own political future?
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Stroszek
November 10, 2009 10:00 AM in reply to Obama1st
That's more than a bit of a strawman. This is about Blue Dogs and conservative Dems, not the GOP. Have you not learned that not working with 20% of the Democratic Party would guarantee the death of hope, change, and the party's political future?
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howie
November 10, 2009 11:02 AM in reply to Stroszek
Yeah, work with but don't cave to. There comes a time when you have to actually stand for something. I suspect this guy will be in for four years and we'll still have no indication of any core beliefs. Well, except that he thinks the left side of his party should be seen voting, but not heard.
Just give him a bill he can sign (i.e. any bill at all)...
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dhatch999
November 10, 2009 11:27 AM
I'm afraid I don't read Obama's remarks the same way Eric does and I don't think they sustain his headline that Obama wants to "revise" Stupak's amendment.
The president says: "And I want to make sure that the provision that emerges meets that test -- that we are not in some way sneaking in funding for abortions, but, on the other hand, that we're not restricting women's insurance choices, because one of the pledges I made in that same speech was to say that if you're happy and satisfied with the insurance that you have, that it's not going to change."
The "provision" he is talking about certainly seems to be the health care reform package as a whole, not the Stupak amendment. While there is sufficient ambiguity for Eric to interpret it another way, I don't think you can make the claim that Obama wants to revise Stupak without a more explicit statement on his part. And it isn't there.
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fkaZk0sm0
November 10, 2009 12:15 PM
if you expand the quote even further, the context (and kleefeld's reading) becomes clear:
TAPPER: Here’s a question a lot of Senate Democrats want to know. You said, when you gave your joint address to Congress, that under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions. This amendment passed Saturday night which not only prohibits abortion coverage in the public option, but also prohibits women who receive subsidies from taking out plans that — that provide abortion coverage. Does that meet the promise that you set out or does it over reach, does it go too far?
OBAMA: You know, I laid out a very simple principle, which is this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill. And we’re not looking to change what is the principle that has been in place for a very long time, which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions. And I want to make sure that the provision that emerges meets that test — that we are not in some way sneaking in funding for abortions, but, on the other hand, that we’re not restricting women’s insurance choices, because one of the pledges I made in that same speech was to say that if you’re happy and satisfied with the insurance that you have, that it’s not going to change. So, you know, this is going to be a complex set of negotiations. I’m confident that we can actually arrive at this place where neither side feels that it’s being betrayed. But it’s going to take some time.
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dhatch999
November 10, 2009 12:23 PM in reply to fkaZk0sm0
I still don't think it's strong enough to sustain Eric's reading.
And where there are several ways to read it, picking one yourself is what we in the news business call "editorializing." The solution, of course, is to seek clarification from the White House.
My impression is that Obama doesn't want the Stupak amendment in the bill at all -- and since the Hyde Rule issues are addressed in many places throughout the existing language, that would make sense.
Too often we have seen people reading things into Obama's statements and White House statements that aren't really there -- and a stream of hysterical invective pours forth. It reduces the signal-to-noise ratio dramatically.
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xargaw
November 10, 2009 2:33 PM
Obama is looking more and more like the kindergarten teacher that makes sure every kid in class gets a trophy simply for showing up no matter how they preform. Leadership is fighting for the right choices and getting rid of the bad stuff. This guy, more and more, seems incapable of standing for anything. He is supposed to lead, not be the social director on a cruise ship. Leadership means not everyone gets their own way and some people walk away angry.
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