
President Obama completed his ninth and what is expected to be final meeting of the War Council last night, and all signs suggest he'll be announcing the decision in a primetime address next week.
The meeting ran just shy of two hours, with Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag was present in the Situation Room for the first time.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs released a statement:
"After completing a rigorous final meeting, President Obama has the information he wants and needs to make his decision and he will announce that decision within days."
Several reports this morning say Obama will tell the nation his decision Dec. 1. His top general and U.S. commander in the field also have been told to prepare to testify on Capitol Hill next week.
Odel Roo
November 24, 2009 8:00 AM
About dayum time!
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shooter242
November 24, 2009 8:16 AM
It's time to leave. Afghans didn't hit the towers and OBL is either dead or gone.
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dswx
November 24, 2009 8:35 AM in reply to shooter242
"...OBL is either dead or gone."
For the umpteenth time you post with absolutely no objective proof at all to back up your comment. Did you ever learn critical thinking and analysis as opposed to simple wishing something to be so? Seriously. How in the world can you post crap with little or no basis in reality? You've become a poster child for the way Republicans fail to think.
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gonzo
November 24, 2009 9:44 AM in reply to shooter242
Unfortunately UBL is likely still around thanks to your little Iraq Detour. You dumbfucks can't even get a good old-fashioned punitive expedition right. And yeah, none of the hijackers were prove. Afghanis, so your Fux News-fueled snark hit epic faildom.
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Dorn76
November 24, 2009 10:25 AM in reply to shooter242
You two are a match made in Heaven.
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eggroll
November 24, 2009 10:43 AM in reply to shooter242
Path of least resistance. Demobilizing military is political poison for Obama at the moment with the economy still losing jobs. Chalk the problem up in part to eight years of war inertia. From the Pentagon's view, plenty of weapons still need to get used, especially those still in development such as robotic drones and space-based hyperkinetic projectiles. Unfortunately, Obama will alienate his liberal base with this cave-in to the hawks. It will be sad to watch the Democratic base stay away from the polls in droves in next year's mid-term elections, because it means we will likely miss out on a knock-down drag-out battle royale on Pentagon spending.
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thecrow
November 24, 2009 8:53 AM
"Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public’s sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization."
"The momentum of Asia’s economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea."
- Zbigniew Brzezinski, The Grand Chessboard, 1997
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/the-gas-must-flow/
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lousgirl84
November 24, 2009 9:30 AM
Here we go again. It's a Done Deal but yet he hasn't announced his decision yet. WTF?????? Why these non-stories? This isn't a story until he announces what he's doing.
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Steaming Pile
November 24, 2009 9:54 AM in reply to lousgirl84
It's a story because he has made a decision. People have been screaming for him to make this decision for weeks. It has taken this long because the President absolutely does...not...want...to...fuck...this...up. We're talking about people's lives, after all. I am actually encouraged by the fact that unlike his predecessor, President Obama isn't just going along with whatever the generals tell him, and demands that they do their homework.
So hold your WTF until you see the plan. Be happy that there is a plan. My guess is we'll take whatever lessons learned from Iraq and apply them to Afghanistan in some way. The bottom line is that we can't just leave the place to rot; that's how we got al Qaida setting up shop there in the first place.
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Xantar
November 24, 2009 9:57 AM in reply to Steaming Pile
I think you misread lousgirl's post. She isn't complaining that Obama took a long time to make his decision. She's complaining about all the news coverage of Obama making his decision with no substance or information about what he's actually deciding. This story is another case of, "Nothing new to report here."
I agree, incidentally, that Obama has taken the right approach to this and has given me confidence that his plan will be thoroughly thought out.
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lousgirl84
November 24, 2009 10:12 AM in reply to Xantar
Thanks Xantar. That's exactly what I meant. Words just don't translate well in posts
And I am in concert with this President. I like that he's taking his time. I wish he were in a position to say ENOUGH. NO MORE TROOPS but I know we just can't pull out like that.
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gharlane
November 24, 2009 11:42 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Words just don't translate well in posts
Actually, they do, provided two conditions are met:
1) There is a connection between brain, fingers and keyboard;
2) A functioning brain exists, as a prerequisite to (1).
In the present case, I'm not sure either condition is met... the organism involved seems more like a collection of hormones that insists on treating a politician as if he's one of the Jonas Brothers.
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lousgirl84
November 24, 2009 10:13 AM in reply to Steaming Pile
You misunderstood my post. See mine and Xantar's response.
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LindyLou
November 24, 2009 2:15 PM in reply to Steaming Pile
President Obama isn't just going along with his generals, and he isn't just going along with his gut, like his incurious unintelligent predecessor did.
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CharlesSmith
November 24, 2009 9:55 AM
President Barack Obama is expected to address the nation Tuesday on his new Afghanistan policy.......
For more information
http://www.35energy.com/news/Obama-to-address-nation-next-week.html
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CranialRectalLoopback
November 24, 2009 10:06 AM
If the President is going to ask for 34K, just ask for the damn 40K and be done with it. Clearly there is no intent on quitting this war.
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lousgirl84
November 24, 2009 10:11 AM
Thanks Xantar. That's exactly what I meant. Words just don't translate well in posts
And I am in concert with this President. I like that he's taking his time. I wish he were in a position to say ENOUGH. NO MORE TROOPS but I know we just can't pull out like that.
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Why oh why
November 24, 2009 10:15 AM
Finally Obama is brave enough to take on the powerful hippy-peacenick lobby and boldly chooses more war, more drones, more assassinations!
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Dorn76
November 24, 2009 10:30 AM in reply to Why oh why
If only there were a hippie peacenik lobby.
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ru4862
November 24, 2009 10:50 AM
Those of us who supported the president when he was a candidate were well aware of his focus on Afghanistan. So his decision to increase troop levels should not come as a surprise--period. That said, i believe he was wrong then and he is wrong Today. He is making a dangerous mistaking by putting all the focus on Afghanistan and ignoring rising extremist activities in Yemen and North Africa.
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Steve Gilpatrick
November 24, 2009 10:51 AM
So, Zbig says its about the oil.
Oil. Its all about the oil.
That's what Zbig says.
Oil and war.
This has sort of a nice ring to it. Oil and war.
Like an Emily Dickenson poem.
Tightly phrased for maximum affect.
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Indie Pro
November 24, 2009 11:10 AM in reply to Steve Gilpatrick
if it was a dickinson poem, there'd be more bees ;)
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theWalrus
November 24, 2009 12:41 PM
Word is he's going to send about 35K troops with a Friedman Unit (6-month) trigger for evaluation.
Obama may have inherited this disaster known as "the war on terror" but he's about to own it and will be blamed for its (inevitable) failure.
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Morbo
November 24, 2009 1:30 PM
Yeah, let's spend another few hundred billion more making more enemies and terrorists. We truly never learn.
Who will be the last troop killed for this mistake?
How many trillions can we waste on 2 useless wars while 120 of our people die every single day from lack of healthcare? We have no shame that over a hundred of our fellow citizens die needlessly every day. Every 3 months, its another 9/11's worth of dead uninsured people. We shrug our shoulders.
We've spent trillions avenging the 3,500 9/11 victims, but won't spend 10 billion a year covering the 352,000 dead from lack of healthcare since 2001. We're truly a bloodthirsty, warmongering people with little in the way of morals.
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