President Obama's town hall in Shanghai (held around midnight East Coast time) was a highlight of his 8-day Asia trip. He'll be holding a press conference today in Beijing and also will see the Great Wall and Forbidden City.
He makes the diplomatic visit as he's considering whether to send a surge of up to 40,000 troops to Afghanistan, and the 300 Chinese students he spoke to at the town hall were well aware of the upcoming decision. A Fudan University student asked Obama if terrorism is still the greatest security concern for the United States, adding, "How do you assess the military actions in Afghanistan, or whether it will turn into another Iraqi war?"
His answer in full after the jump.
Obama said he thinks terrorist networks like al Qaeda remain the "greatest threat to United States' security" and said "they have no conscience when it comes to the destruction of innocent civilians."
He continued:
"Now, the reason we originally went into Afghanistan was because al Qaeda was in Afghanistan, being hosted by the Taliban. They have now moved over the border of Afghanistan and they are in Pakistan now, but they continue to have networks with other extremist organizations in that region. And I do believe that it is important for us to stabilize Afghanistan so that the people of Afghanistan can protect themselves, but they can also be a partner in reducing the power of these extremist networks.Now, obviously it is a very difficult thing -- one of the hardest things about my job is ordering young men and women into the battlefield. I often have to meet with the mothers and fathers of the fallen, those who do not come home. And it is a great weight on me. It gives me a heavy heart.
Obama said he thinks it's possible "working in a broader coalition with our allies in NATO and others that are contributing like Australia, to help train the Afghans so that they have a functioning government, that they have their own security forces, and then slowly we can begin to pull our troops out because there's no longer that vacuum that existed after the Taliban left."
He added:
But it's a difficult task. It's not easy. And ultimately I think in trying to defeat these terrorist extremists, it's important to understand it's not just a military exercise. We also have to think about what motivates young people to become terrorists, why would they become suicide bombers. And although there are obviously a lot of different reasons, including I think the perversion of religion, in thinking that somehow these kinds of violent acts are appropriate, part of what's happened in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan is these young people have no education, they have no opportunities, and so they see no way for them to move forward in life, and that leads them into thinking that this is their only option.And so part of what we want to do in Afghanistan is to find ways that we can train teachers and create schools and improve agriculture so that people have a greater sense of hope. That won't change the ideas of a Osama bin Laden who are very ideologically fixed on trying to strike at the West, but it will change the pool of young people who they can recruit from. And that is at least as important, if not more important over time, as whatever military actions that we can take.
Asked about winning the Nobel Peace Prize earlier this year, Obama said:
I don't believe necessarily that it's an honor I deserve, given the extraordinary history of people who have won the prize. All I can do is to, with great humility, accept the fact that I think the committee was inspired by the American people and the possibilities of changing not only America but also America's approach to the world. And so in some ways I think they gave me the prize but I was more just a symbol of the shift in our approach to world affairs that we are trying to promote.
The most interesting part of the town hall was when he talked about Twitter and used it as an example of a free society.
We clipped the whole town hall.

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mjshep
November 16, 2009 11:03 AM
After reading this I'm beginning to think Obama, for all his considered thought on this matter, is missing the point.
And I do believe in the tooth fairy. From all I see there is no Afghanistan, just a region composed of competing tribal groups and clans, some of which do not even share a common language, most of which are still mired in parochial, violent and archaic ways of thought and social organization, all of whom put together hardly compromise a "country" or a "government" that could be anyone's partner.
If his goal is:
Then we'll be there for literally decades, at an untold cost of life and money, before we realize we are no closer to this goal than Sisyphus when he was halfway up the mountain. He talks about how we can slowly begin to pull our troops out as the problem subsides when the troops themselves a part of the cause of the problem. And slowly might mean 20 years, at a cost of at least $50 billion a year. That's another trillion we don't have, Mr. President.
It all sounds so intelligent and well considered, and such a relief from the cowboy rhetoric of his predecessor, but Obama may just be, intelligently and thoughtfully, leading us into another disaster.
And that would be a tragedy.
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Goshen
November 16, 2009 11:08 AM
It seems to me that the foundation stone of jihadism -- which is just the Islamic term for a habit of mind that infests religions and cultures around the world -- is the stone of literalism. Fundamentalism is another word for it.
We have literalists/fundamentalists here in spades, ranging from evangelical pentacostal sects (which tend to be considered in the mainstream, if waaaay over on the right) and skinheads, who are clearly over the line, to the far left radicals of recent memory.
The fundamentalist mentality loves simplicity and a lack of ambiguity. Fear is a dominant emotion, and a sense that one is part of the "other", an alienated and victimized minority.
LIstening to the professional victims like Sara Palin and her evangelical running buddies, I hear the same frame of mind as alientated youth in Britain's islamic slums. "We are the Other; they hate us" they both say. One claims persecutuion because they are Christian (although that term is very loosly applied), and the other sends alienated young men to madrasas to learn how to hate and join a pan-national movement to fight back against those who they believe persecute them and their Muslim faith.
Alienation, and identity as a victim, and a burning sense of injustice and persecution for one's accidents of birth or belief.
This is an interesting look into the phenomenon in Britain, by someone who has lived in the life.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/renouncing-islamism-to-the-brink-and-back-again-1821215.html
The trigger for the appeal of
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tiowally
November 16, 2009 12:26 PM
Lighten your load, Barry. Pull the troops out now.
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inokeah
November 16, 2009 12:27 PM
President Stupidly is out in the world making a fool of himself and giving away every thing thousands of American died for in the past. For what?
He seems to be good at bowing. Get used to this pose !
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bluegeorgia
November 16, 2009 1:15 PM in reply to inokeah
Today the web is full of historic photos of that socialist Dwight Eisenhower (D-POTUS) bowing to almost every head of state and Pope that he met. The country has survived, even as burdened as it is with wingnut idiots.
Get over it.
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mjshep
November 16, 2009 2:28 PM in reply to bluegeorgia
But we all know that Eisenhower was a weakling and a fool, who never served and believed in appeasement.
What's that you say? He was a five star General who as Supreme Allied Commander in Europe successfully managed the largest military invasion in human history and then led his troops to a conclusive victory? Never mind.
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mjshep
November 16, 2009 2:31 PM in reply to inokeah
Unlike you, inokeah, who is making a fool of yourself right here on TPM.
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sisterkevin
November 16, 2009 4:32 PM
looks like TPM got infected with the knukle dragging virus. Just remember, you can't teach stupid. But aside from stupid and company, what's the Pres doing in Asia for a week or so except of course telling China what's acceptable and what's not. Meanwhile, at home here we have a giant cluster-fuck going on with no relief in sight. Will someone tell the President it's about jobs stupid! The world's stage will always be there and you'll have plenty of opportunities to make wonderful speeches. Yes, you look good, sound good, and have that elusive "wow" factor, but it's wearing real thin. The disappointment is setting in. Hate to admit it but I'm thinking maybe you're in over your head Mr. President. Don't like where this is going.
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