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Owens Leads In NY-23 As Democrats Have One Chance To Avoid Full Sweep
Christina Bellantoni | November 3, 2009, 10:31PM
NY-23 Candidates Bill Owens (D) and Doug Hoffman (Conservative)
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Democrat Bill Owens leads conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman by 51-44 percent with one-third of precincts reporting.
If Owens hangs onto that margin, New York's 23rd Congressional district will be the only bright spot on the map for Democrats tonight.
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Michael A
November 3, 2009 10:32 PM
Yeah! Owens seems like a good candidate by the way and Hoffman is a carpetbagging goof. In the end, its about the candidate.
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LFO
November 3, 2009 10:45 PM
Um hello, is the California election to be ignored because it does not fit the MSM narrative of a Rep comeback? God I expected better from TPM.
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MKSinSA
November 4, 2009 10:19 AM in reply to LFO
Same here. The only national implication of yesterday is that Obama just got additional troops in his battle against the Party of No. State races are important in other ways but don't speak to the President. The only direct referenda on his policies were CA-10 and NY-23.
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David
November 3, 2009 10:47 PM
Er, um, California 10???
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fafner1
November 3, 2009 10:51 PM
Re only bright spot for D's - don't forget Washington State which is set to approve "everything but marriage" unions. And don't forget CA #10. I know the west coast is a long way from the beltway, but we are still solidly blue.
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November 3, 2009 11:16 PM in reply to fafner1
The votes on gay rights in Washington and Maine are only tangentially connected to the Democrats.
The underlying movements in public opinion are certainly not something to ignore, but just because people believe in same-sex marriage (or at leats giving gay couples equal benefits) does not mean they have faith in (and will consistently vote for) members of the Democratic party.
They're more likely to, but I wouldn't claim it as a victory for the Dems as a party if people can wake up tomorrow in Maine and get married (or in Washington and get domestic-partnered). I'd say both are victories for people who believe in equality, which transcends partisan standing.
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Dogger
November 3, 2009 11:07 PM
There is good news in VA: Democrats can learn how to avoid losing elections if they pay attention to what really happened there. History suggests they won't.
Deeds started out with a slight deficit, which he addressed by moving to the right. That made his numbers worse. Every time Deeds got bad poll news, he moved further right. Each move further demoralized his base, and perpetuated his death spiral.
The dismal turnout for Democrats killed Deeds's campaign. The nutwings weren't fooled, and the left stopped caring. You can't win elections without independents, but you still need your base to succeed.
There is a lesson for all Democrats, especially the corporate appeasers who are selling out the base on Health Care Reform.
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Joe Buck
November 3, 2009 11:07 PM
Yes, it's really disappointing how many East Coast progressives are ignoring everything outside the Eastern time zone. Garamendi's well to the left of Tauscher, so CA-10 is moving left. And it's bogus for Republican spinners to answer that this is an expected Dem win, when NY-23 has been Republican since the Civil War.
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geofu54
November 3, 2009 11:29 PM
http://www.thealbanyproject.com/
Went there from Nate's twitting.
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DavidW in SF
November 3, 2009 11:40 PM
CA-10 results can be found here
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elect-results/cd10-results.htm
With 9.x% reporting, Garamendi is substantially ahead. I'll be very glad to have him as a replacement for Tauscher.
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acf_ma
November 3, 2009 11:40 PM
Well, Deeds was a disaster as a candidate who deserved to lose to a stronger candidate who ran a much better race, Corzine was a hated governor in a high tax state, yet almost pulled it out, and for Owens to even be close in NY 23, a district that has never voted Democratic in the lifetime of anyone living today, is remarkable. For him to pull out a win is stunning, more so than the R wins in VA & NJ, and a testament to the mind boggling interference in a local race by national conservatives.
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fafner1
November 3, 2009 11:53 PM
The Republicans oppose gay rights almost unanimously; the D's overwhelmingly support them. Scozzafava drew overwhelming rejection from the national Republican party in large part because of her support of gay rights. How can you say gay rights are not at this point in our country's history a partisan issue? It should be an issue that transcends partisanship, but clearly it does not. I will certainly view it as a victory for Democratic values if Washington's domestic partnership referendum passes.
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