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Reid On Passing Health Care: 'I'm Not Using Reconciliation'

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Yesterday, I asked Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) what he and other moderates had heard from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid at an impromptu afternoon meeting about health care reform. Nelson said Reid "talked about process, procedure, discussion about reconciliation and a whole host of issues of that sort."

Reconciliation is a complicated legislative process that would allow Reid to pass some version of reform without having to contend with a filibuster. "Nobody's really jumping up and down to push for reconciliation," Nelson added, "he's not threatening that, but anybody can conclude that if you don't move something on to the floor, that is one of the possibilities."

Today, at an event celebrating the unveiling of his health care bill, I asked Reid what specifically he'd said to Nelson--along with Sens. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA)--about reconciliation. His answer left no wiggle room: "I'm not using reconciliation," he said.

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November 19, 2009 1:45 PM   

Sure, why should we leave any options on the table? I find the best way to negotiate is to rip up our best cards and then bend over and ask the other side to be gentle, if they'd like.

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November 19, 2009 2:08 PM    in reply to LuxVeritas

There's nothing in that statement to preclude changing his mind later. But closing the reconciliation option is one way to put pressure on the wavering Democrats to stay in line. They can't vote Nay with the expectation it's going to pass later by reconciliation. It's a strategically smart move.

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November 19, 2009 2:21 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Seconded

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November 19, 2009 3:28 PM    in reply to Darrius

Thirded.. Why would he say anything different? If he takes reconciliation off of the table, he puts pressure on the Blue (Cross) Dems. I'm pretty hard on Reid, but I'm not going to question him on this strategy.

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November 19, 2009 5:57 PM    in reply to RichM

Fourthted. Nuh-doy.

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November 20, 2009 1:37 PM    in reply to battlecobra90000

Depends on the what the definition of "I'm" ...is.

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November 19, 2009 5:42 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

This is largely a quote to pull in the 50+ in the caucus who are trying to get Lying Lieb, Ben-Ben, Blanche & Mary reeled in. The strategy is to have those 50+ think they have to take whatever minimum bill those for will vote for.

In turn, he's telling Those Four that he can only go so low (i.e. he can't blow up all of Healthcare) because he'd then be forced to go to reconciliation to get *something* on Healthcare passed, even a shell of it.

Bacisally a push to both sides from what's been drifting out in the past two days:

* towards Those Four to stop dragging their feet and come up with a clear Bottom Line of what they can support, not their ongoing, expanding wish list of things to gut on behalf of Big Health

* towards 50+ to lay the groundwork that they're still going to have to make givebacks from the Merged Bill

It's an "inside" game of power politics: a spot between the two trying to draw them together. Reid isn't especially good at that. But he's even worse at the "outside" game that we saw in the Bush Admin: taking a position, sticking to it, firing up the Noise Machine to spook and pressure everyone into voting for the exact thing they wanted. See FISA and Telecom Immunity.

On the other hand, it did seem to worry Ben-Ben yesterday that Reconciliation was on the table, and that he'd have to vote for colture on what ever ends up being his own Worst Case. And that we were now simply at the stage of getting to that final worst case.

Until there's the next worst case chance: playing games after Conference. ;)

John

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November 19, 2009 2:10 PM   

Reconciliation would be a mess. And leaving it on the table makes it look like the conservadems gave in to a threat, taking it off the table and still getting the 60 votes means they voted for the bill because they thought it was good enough.

Finally I don't think they have 50 votes to go the reconciliation route.

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November 19, 2009 2:39 PM   

What about Joementum? Has he changed his mind about voting against cloture?

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November 19, 2009 2:42 PM   

There's wiggle room.

"I'm not using reconcilation" is an accurate present tense statement that does not address what could happen in the future.

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November 19, 2009 4:28 PM    in reply to magster

Exactly. This is almost into Kremlinology territory, and is kinda funny how the word parsing is taken as newsworthy things by the media heathers (which alas, includes TPM writers all too often as well).

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November 19, 2009 3:07 PM   

Why does TPM insist on saying they need all 60 Democratic votes? The Dems DONT HAVE 60 Dem votes. They have 58, with a very loyal Indy. That last Indy, Lieberman, is NOT a reliable and dependable vote. Period.

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November 20, 2009 1:40 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Pardon the pun, but indeed, what the esteemed Independent Senator from Connecticut will end up doing is the elephant in the room.

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November 20, 2009 1:37 PM   

No, he knows (from closed door meetings) that he has 60. he is just giving them cover till the last minute

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