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We'll be following today's proceedings live from the U.S. Capitol, gavel-to-gavel. Check in all day for breaking updates.


8:08 p.m.: The Senate votes 60-39 for cloture--and, by agreement, the motion to proceed itself, thus clearing the way for debate to begin next week.

7:55 p.m.: The vote is beginning.

7:49 p.m.: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is making the last statement of the night before the vote. Ten minutes to go.

7:48 p.m.: I just saw Robert Byrd enter the Capitol. All Democrats are on hand. That's 60.

7:17 p.m.: Here's Max Baucus, safely returned from Montana where he'd been staying with his ailing mother. Democrats can't afford a single absence, and there had been some question of whether he'd be able to return in time for the vote.

5:44 p.m.: A few minutes ago, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) called Medicaid a "medical ghetto"... hmmm....

4:18 p.m.: Here's the priceless moment from this morning, when Reid dissed David Broder.

3:28 p.m.: A Democratic Senate aide tells me people aren't too pleased that Schumer's been wheeling and dealing on the public option.

2:36 p.m.: Lincoln just went on quite a tear against the public option. "Let me be perfectly clear. I am opposed to a new government administered health care plan as a part of comprehensive health insurance reform, and I will not vote in favor of the proposal that has been introduced by Leader Reid as it is written.... I've already alerted the Leader and I'm promising my colleagues that I'm prepared to vote against moving to the next stage of consideration as long as a government-run public option is included."

2:26 p.m.: She's in.

2:20 p.m.: Lincoln takes the floor. Wait for it...

2:00 p.m.: Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) will take the floor in about 20 min. Assuming she announces her vote (and assuming that vote is 'yes') we can all relax until the vote at 8 p.m.

1:47 p.m.: Apologies for the silence. Some reporters and I tracked down Landrieu after her floor speech. She had some interesting things to say, including that she believes Reid will have to choose between a triggered public option and a health care bill, and that Sen. Chuck Schumer is at the heart of negotiations over that controversial compromise.

12:52 p.m.: "My vote today to move forward on this important debate should in no way be construed by the supporters of this current framework as an indication of how I might vote as this debate comes to an end," Landrieu said. "After a thorough review of the bill...I have decided that there are enough significant reforms and safeguards in this bill to move forward, but much more work needs to be done."

12:48 p.m.: Landrieu says Blanche Lincoln will come to the floor to discuss her views later...

12:45 p.m.: Here's Mary Landrieu to make it official.

12:31 p.m.: BREAKING: The Democrats' communication staff tweets that Landrieu will vote yes on the motion to proceed tonight.

12:16 p.m.: In his typically convincing way, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) makes the case for health care reform and the public option.

12:04 p.m.: BREAKING: Landrieu will speak on the floor at 12:25 p.m.

11:46 a.m.: Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) will not be voting for health care reform today. His Louisiana colleague Mary Landrieu on the other hand...

11:38 a.m.: Sen. John Thune (R-SD) is pointing to one of those graphs Republicans use, with a line shooting upward arbitrarily to show that the Democrats' _________ plan is very expensive. Science! Also, David Brooks thinks he's very, very handsome.

11:24 a.m.: Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) takes a break from filibustering judicial nominations so he can filibuster the health care bill. The emerging line of critique from Republicans is that Reid is hiding the cost of the bill by pushing back the start-date of the legislation, thus shrinking the subsidy burden the government will bear between today and 2019. They're basically right. But it's not as if they'd all vote for reform en masse if Reid reversed the gimmick.

11:21 a.m.: Bond cites insurance-industry study by PricewaterhouseCoopers to attack reform--like making the Exxon-case for climate change denialism.

11:10 a.m.: Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO) also does not much care for health care reform legislation.

11:00 a.m.: Remember when President Obama wanted Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) to be his Commerce Secretary? That was weird. Well, now he's on the floor railing against health care reform.

10:55 a.m.: Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM) stumping for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. [ASIDE: Clearly the best thing about this bill is that it doesn't have the words "defending" or "America" in its title.]

10:36 a.m.: In case you want to hear all about how choice is the answer to the health care crisis, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) is on the floor right now.

10:24 a.m.: Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) now speaking. In case you're not familiar, he looks like a smaller version of Evan Bayh.

10:15 a.m.: Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) starts it off for the Democrats, discussing the need for anti-trust laws to apply to the insurance industry. "Let's not hide under our desks because we're afraid to stand up and vote and debate."

10:00 a.m.: Gavel in!

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November 21, 2009 11:42 AM   

Sen. Kit Bond speaks as one who has the privilege of health-care benefits. If he's really serious about not revamping insurance accessibility. I believe he should show real fortitude and step aside from his position of power and stand in solidarity with those of his constituency who likewise do not have the insurance access to health-care.
I believe an amendment is in order: for those states that opt out of the public health option - their state senators/representatives/elected officials should likewise be taken out of the federal insurance pool - and they should have to go find health insurance on their own.
think they'll go for it?

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November 21, 2009 11:43 AM   

CNN will have a live camera focused on Oprah's bones to see if they rattle or moan at any time during today's 'debate'.

My ultra progressive rap nickname?
Fresh Sauté.

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November 21, 2009 12:11 PM   

"They're basically right. But it's not as if they'd all vote for reform en masse if Reid reversed the gimmick. "

- that's the stupidest comment yet from the pundits at TPM.

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November 21, 2009 2:53 PM    in reply to Lalo35adm

Yea should be But it's not as a single Repuke would vote for reform if Reid reversed the gimmick.

Good God I'm agreeing with Lalo

Somebody shoot me

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November 21, 2009 2:47 PM   

a good bribe goes a long way, doesn't it?

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November 21, 2009 2:51 PM   

Luv ya Blanche!

Blanche DuBois: Oh look, we have created enchantment.

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November 21, 2009 2:58 PM   

Bored watching CSPAN?

Join Lalo and me on CBS at 3:30 EDT.

We'll be protesting the decision to ban the singing of From Dixie with love along with our Patriot friends the Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan


Glory hallelujah the South will rise again!

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November 21, 2009 3:59 PM   

What you don't know about this bill could kill you!
national health care bill

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November 21, 2009 4:02 PM   

Pinch me. Is this really happening? As the healthcare debate is coming to a procedural head on the floor of the Senate tonight, news this week that the U.S. Postal Service lost money for the third year in a row—a staggering $3.8 billion, versus a loss of $2.8 billion last year—should give Middle America real concerns about government’s ability to effectively insert itself into individuals’ lives and deliver quality, affordable healthcare.

Government is not a bad thing. For those who think differently, view government as a necessary evil, whose purpose is to serve the people, not vice versa. As we were reminded by Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg Address in 1863, “. . . this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. . .” Like it or not, government belongs to the people and it is here to stay.

The speed with which politicians are moving to rush a 2074 page healthcare bill through Congress with little debate leads Middle America to ask the obvious question, “What’s the hurry on an issue of such great importance?”

Well, the hurry is that this week Middle America picked up the scent of the rationing of healthcare with confusion over when and what women should get mammograms and pap smears. As time drags on, Americans are becoming increasingly concerned about how healthcare might be rationed, which has Democrats are as nervous as long-tailed cats in a room full of rocking chairs.

If ever there was an issue that touched every American personally, healthcare is it. Clearly, something has to give—there has to be some sort of healthcare reform, like the ability to shop for healthcare across state lines, a prohibition against rejecting pre-existing conditions, a requirement that every American have health insurance, etc. However, the need to get healthcare reform right greatly exceeds the political demands to just get “something” done and declare victory.

Middle America has been betrayed in a way, since every word of every page of the 2074 page bill isn’t being discussed and publicly debated in great detail by this administration, which campaigned on “transparency.” Sound public policy requires a lucid and thorough examination of this legislation, but it appears that once again, sound public policy is being traded for political expediency.

Obama’s advisors and Democratic consultants know that time is their enemy—the longer Congress takes to pass healthcare legislation, the less political capital they have to pass anything at all, and the more likely Middle America will thoughtfully consider how it might impact its own mammograms, pap smears, and healthcare needs.

The honeymoon period typically extended to new presidents is now coming to an end, if it hasn’t already come and gone. Unfortunately for President Obama and Democrats, they campaigned on delivering “healthcare reform” and staked their political future on it.

Middle America is not naïve, and will not allow itself to be played like a Stradivarius violin. Making healthcare reform their lynchpin issue was a very calculated decision by Democrats, not done hastily, but after much polling and many focus groups. Democrats have made healthcare a political football and Middle America is increasingly concerned about it.

Understandably, Democrats exploited the issue of healthcare reform for maximum political value during the campaign, but now the campaign is over and the wolf is almost at the door. Democrats know they have to deliver something, and this “something” really needs to be thought through with great deliberation and debate. If given a choice, Middle America would be better served with nothing, rather than “something” hastily rammed through Congress.


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November 21, 2009 4:42 PM    in reply to AmericanMuser

Your conflating the postal service with health care is just plain stupid.

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November 21, 2009 5:13 PM    in reply to rbe1

And, ahem, the postal service (a) is specifically enumerated in the Constitution and (b) does not run on federal tax money.

It operates...drumroll...as a business! based on its sales receipts! Just like all those, um, failed banks, etc. that citizens had to bail out because they were so, um, efficient.

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November 21, 2009 4:43 PM    in reply to AmericanMuser

Middle America?

Ha ha...

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November 21, 2009 5:27 PM    in reply to kash79

:-)

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November 21, 2009 4:50 PM    in reply to AmericanMuser

In fact, tell you what. I live in Europe in a country where no one, that's NO ONE, is without health insurance. You can't live here without it. I have 100% coverage on all doctor and hospital care and 100 % on drug coverage, 80 % on dental, and my annual health care cost is around 4800 €, and it's a private policy. And guess what, the insurance industry is regulated in the same manner as are public utilities in many states in the US, insurance companies can't toss you when you develop an illness and they can't limit coverage. So what's so fucking great about the system in the US ?

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November 22, 2009 9:13 AM    in reply to rbe1

Just curious...what country? Each one has its own system, though they're all either single- or all-payer.

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November 21, 2009 5:26 PM    in reply to AmericanMuser

Who are you who claims to speak for "Middle America"? What does the even mean?

Oh, and you analysis is so facile and infantile that is doesn't even merit the effort of a point-by-point refutation, not that such a refutation would be difficult.

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November 21, 2009 4:40 PM   

Good, Lincoln has declared herself to be one of the dinosaurs. Now hopefully the democratic party can get rid of this dead weight next election cycle. Time for the democrats to be taking some lessons from the mafia, people.

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November 21, 2009 5:58 PM   

So, is a health care bill without a public option worse than nothing at all?

Looks like the public option will soon be history. And once it is gone, no more Stupak nonsense, right?

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November 21, 2009 6:44 PM   

A concern troll asks:

"The speed with which politicians are moving to rush a 2074 page healthcare bill through Congress with little debate leads Middle America to ask the obvious question, 'What’s the hurry on an issue of such great importance?'"

This about a bill that has been part of President Obama's agenda for two years, that was the subject of epic negotiations beginning in March, some eight months ago, that led to extended Senate special subcommittee negotiations all summer long, that was passed through the House before autumn hit....

Gosh, let's not rushthis through in a hurry, now!

REMEMBER: Please do not feed the concern trolls...

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November 21, 2009 8:03 PM    in reply to PQuincy

"Middle America"

Sounds like code for white conservatives.

Funny how they always define "real America" or "Middle America" as people who look and think like them. Even now that they are in the minority.

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November 22, 2009 9:16 AM    in reply to PQuincy

Doesn't quite match the speed with which we decided to ignore Hans Blix's reports and go to war, for, uh...well...why did we go to war? Oh, right. Oil.

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November 24, 2009 2:45 PM    in reply to PQuincy

Wow, you must be quite illuminated, having digested all 2074 pages already. This legislation has implications far beyond its exploitation throughout the campaign, by his holiness, Mr. Obama. To claim that this legislation has been properly vetted and subject to public review and input is insulting, just because it's been part of "Obama's agenda" for two years, which is irrelevant liberal spin.

If this legislation is good for America, then let its provisions be debated and let the sunshine in, unless of course empowering the public with knowledge of its provisions would create concern, which it very well might.

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November 22, 2009 1:37 AM   

The Dow Jones Industrial Average will "Skyrocket" this week because of health bill debates! read this shocking info: http://www.dowjonessecret.com/dowjones-skyrocket-nov2009.php

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