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In an interview with the Politico, former Vice President Dick Cheney attacked President Obama over Afghanistan -- and also insisted that the Bush administration is not responsible for the situation in that country:

But Cheney rejected any suggestion that Obama had to decide on a new strategy for Afghanistan because the one employed by the previous administration failed.

Cheney was asked if he thinks the Bush administration bears any responsibility for the disintegration of Afghanistan because of the attention and resources that were diverted to Iraq. "I basically don't," he replied without elaborating.

As Spencer Ackerman points out, Cheney's statement comes right on the heels of a Senate report saying that the United States missed an opportunity to capture Osama bin Laden in December 2001, in Tora Bora. And even without that relevant piece of news, the fact remains that the Bush Administration handed off the Afghanistan situation to Obama in the eighth year of the conflict.

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December 1, 2009 10:07 AM   

Yep, "I basically don't take responsibility for the last 8 years."

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December 1, 2009 12:32 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

amazing, isn't it? who does he think is responsible if not the bush administration?

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December 1, 2009 12:47 PM    in reply to neesy08

Why can't we say no elected president in American history has ever inherited two ongoing endless wars tripled by economic collapse? Why can't that be enough to force the media to shut these people up?

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December 1, 2009 12:57 PM    in reply to Chris

Would require media heads to push back and not worry about future interviews

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December 1, 2009 12:58 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

Sounds like an 8th grader: I didn't do it, and besides you can't prove it.

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December 1, 2009 10:19 AM   

If only the Republican Party had really been in charge for the last eight years, instead of only holding the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the government in an iron fist clenched to destroy all that did not kneel before us.

Why, if they had really been in control, we wouldn't have any of these problems!

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December 1, 2009 10:56 AM    in reply to Jonnan

Probably had something to do with trial lawyers or an imaginary Senate filibuster.

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December 1, 2009 11:03 AM    in reply to Jonnan

Yeah and what about those spineless dumbocrats? Where were they as a party of resistance?

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December 1, 2009 11:08 AM    in reply to T Groan

So smart guy, are the Democrats at fault when they are in power, or when they aren't, or both, or what?

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December 1, 2009 11:10 AM    in reply to Dorn76

It depends if they are being spineless or not.

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December 1, 2009 11:43 AM    in reply to Jonnan

Except they didn't manage to destroy anyone anyway.

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December 2, 2009 12:28 AM    in reply to Jonnan

The GOP for the last 8 years fought the terrorists and the Dems which they loathe equally. It's what they do.

What Cheney is trying to say is they went into Afghanistan and abandoned the troops completely so whatever happened after they went into Iraq was on their own heads, not Cheney. Dick is admitting they had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with that? It's probably the most honest statement he ever made.

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December 1, 2009 10:22 AM   

One of the maxims attributed to Napoleon is that one should never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence. Nonetheless, when one considers the likelihood that public tolorance for the Iraq war and the general fearmongering that was the main prop for their power would have abated had they not let OBL and Mullah Omar escape, and combines that with how utterly diseased this man's mind is (along with those of Rove, Addison, Libbey, and the rest of their cabal), it's hard not to conclude the decision was deliberate.

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December 1, 2009 10:36 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Agreed. They have never explained why they denied the requests from military officials for more troops/resources when it was believed that OBL was holed up in Tora Bora.

If someone's "wanted dead or alive," one would think that you would make every effort possible to catch them. (Well, assuming that you actually want to catch them.)

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December 1, 2009 11:43 AM    in reply to hewhohasnoname

We even have a whole frakking division, the 10th Mountain, trained and equipped to do just exactly what needed doing at Tora Bora. This all could have been over in 2002. Leaves you feeling empty and sick, especially given how the Beltway MSM continues to fawn and drool over them.

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December 1, 2009 1:07 PM    in reply to hewhohasnoname

Cheney and company must have been working very hard instead on improving health care, education, America's infrastructure, our country's standing in the world, and making our economy sound and robust for the 21st century. They could not be distracted from making the promise of the American Dream a reality. After all they had control for all those Bush years so they working on that stuff, weren't they? Anyone? Anyone?

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December 1, 2009 10:28 AM   

This guy is basically an ass.

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December 1, 2009 12:25 PM    in reply to mike from Arlington

Omit "basically."

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December 1, 2009 10:33 AM   

I have an ass. My ass does something useful.

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December 1, 2009 10:58 AM    in reply to Jonnan

ROFLMAO

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December 1, 2009 10:35 AM   

Dick Cheney: "I basically don't" think.

There. Fixed.

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December 1, 2009 11:02 AM    in reply to FlownOver

Omit "basically."

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December 1, 2009 10:39 AM   

Cheney was asked if he thinks the Bush administration bears any responsibility for the disintegration of Afghanistan because of the attention and resources that were diverted to Iraq. "I basically don't," he replied without elaborating.

But Man if he would have elaborated he would have really...ummm... really...what's the phrase ? Oh yeah I've got it now... totally made an ass of his pathetic self? Yeah that's it.

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December 1, 2009 10:40 AM   

I believe Cheney is suffering some kind of mental deterioration -- maybe alzheimers disease. The kindest thing we -- and the media-- can do is to ignore him.

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December 1, 2009 10:59 AM    in reply to DeeCee

You are far too kind.

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December 1, 2009 12:36 PM    in reply to Cool Blue Reason

I believe Cheney is suffering some kind of personality disorder -- maybe sociopathy. The kindest thing we -- and the justice department-- can do is try, convict and incarcerate him.

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December 1, 2009 10:44 AM   

Why is the reaction by the interviewer never "Really? Why the fuck not?" when interviewing members of the GOP?

Your 'liberal' media at work.

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December 1, 2009 10:52 AM    in reply to Jonnan

Um, as Steve Benen just noted re this story, Politico is doing nothing but reprinting Cheney's attacks on President Obama, and has been doing so for the past year. I think he said they should just give Cheney his own blog and eliminate the need for quotation marks.
And there's nothing "liberal" about Politico whatsoever. It's run by Republicans and promotes GOP talking points.

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December 1, 2009 1:41 PM    in reply to Jonnan

Why is the reaction by the interviewer never "Really? Why the fuck not?" when interviewing members of the GOP?

This is left up to Jon Stewart.

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December 1, 2009 10:49 AM   

http://cursor.org/stories/binladenforgotten.htm

‘The goal has never been to get bin Laden’, said General Richard Myers, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, on 6 April 2002. President George W Bush might have declared on 17 September 2001 that bin Laden was ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive’ – but Myers told CNN that a far more important aim than bin Laden’s head on a platter was the ‘capture, killing and scattering’ of ‘mid-level al-Qaeda operatives’ . ‘The goal [in Afghanistan] was never after specific individuals’, he claimed .
But four days later, on 10 April 2002, army secretary Thomas White said that one of America’s ‘strategic objectives’ in Afghanistan is ‘to get bin Laden…and we are pursuing that’ 3. Asked if the war on terror could only be hailed a success once bin Laden was found, White said yes – claiming that ‘no one said it was going to be easy’ .
‘I truly am not that concerned about him’, said President George W Bush on 13 March 2002, after being asked the million-dollar question ‘where is bin Laden?’ once too often . ‘Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he’s alive at all’, said Bush, brushing bin Laden off as ‘a person who has now been marginalized’ .
But a week later, on 21 March 2002, US commanders claimed that bin Laden and co are ‘still a threat in the new Afghanistan’. Major-general Frank Hagenbeck warned that ‘there are al-Qaeda operatives in Paktia right now, who are going to great lengths to regroup’ 7 – while CIA director George Tenet claimed that bin Laden remains an ‘immediate and serious threat’
On 8 April 2002, US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld said bin Laden’s threat had been ‘neutralized’. ‘Our goal was to stop terrorism to the extent that we could’, said Rumsfeld – claiming that ‘enough pressure’ had been applied to al-Qaeda leaders to make them ‘so busy surviving’ and ‘moving from place to place’ that they no longer have time to plot terrorist attacks.

Per Myers explicitly and Bush implicitly it was never about tracking down the specific planners of 9/11, who after all wouldn't include "mid-level al-Qaeda operators", it was all about green-lighting perma-war under guise of some War on Terror. Not this is less than six months from "Wanted Dead or Alive".

Damned from their own mouths.

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December 1, 2009 12:06 PM    in reply to Bruce Webb

None of this matters to Cheney now. His mission is and has always been to derail anything a Democrat does. He was ab-solutely sure that everything he, Rumsfeld and Bush did was the right thing.
When we were supposed to be getting a "peace dividend" after the Soviets collapsed, as SecDef he closed some military bases, but only in Democrats' districts. There was no way he was going to make Republicans pay the price.
Cheney is more partisan than Rove but less charismatic, if that's possible.

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December 1, 2009 10:54 AM   

Had 2008 turned out differently, what do you think are the odds that this guy would have set up shop in Palin's office of the VP (as opposed to just hiding out with elements of the CIA government-in-waiting)?

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December 1, 2009 10:55 AM   

If they had caught OBL so early in the game, the justification for Iraq would have faded. In turn the billions of American tax dollars would not have been handed over to so many worthy defense cronies. Halliburton would have had to make an "honest" living. Keeping OBL alive helps to continue the fear mongering and high alert levels so W could be re-selected.

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December 1, 2009 11:02 AM   

It's really unfair of Dick to keep Satan waiting so long to collect his soul, considering how good he's been to him.

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December 1, 2009 11:29 AM    in reply to Peter Principle

Satan already has the soul, he allows the corpse to continue on in order to infect/inflict even more evil.

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December 1, 2009 11:11 AM   

If we could only see the REAL bubble over Dickhead's head:
http://satiricalpolitical.com/2009/11/29/cheney-senate-report-capturing-bin-laden/

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December 1, 2009 12:49 PM    in reply to DonDavis

spammer

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December 1, 2009 11:12 AM   

I think that Dick is channeling Otter in his immortal quote to Flounder in Animal House:

Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You fucked up - you trusted us!

So, you see it's really our fault, not theirs.

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December 1, 2009 11:20 AM   

"Blow the dust off the clock. Your watches are behind the times. Throw open the heavy curtains which are so dear to you — you do not even suspect that the day has already dawned outside."

- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"Do the orders still stand", Mr. Cheney?

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/clock-stoppers/

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December 1, 2009 11:21 AM   

Don't expect to get a straight answer out of that crooked mouth.

Seriously, what do you expect from a guy who talks like a character in a 30s gangster movie?

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December 1, 2009 12:47 PM    in reply to chimpale

God, that would make all of this something approaching tolerable.

"It's not our fault, see? Blame it on the new guy - you know, the secret arab. Doll, make yourself useful and go shake me up a sidecar... Dames."

Wait, no. That sounds about right.

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December 1, 2009 1:45 PM    in reply to chimpale

He reminds me more of The Penguin.

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December 1, 2009 4:35 PM    in reply to WaitWut?

Damn, you're right. He looks just LIKE the Penguin. That SO explains 2001-2009

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December 1, 2009 4:50 PM    in reply to WaitWut?

Damn, you're right. He looks just LIKE the Penguin. That SO explains 2001-2009

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December 1, 2009 11:26 AM   

So the cowardly, draft-dodging, drunken face-shooting, wrong about everything, hiding in his bunker like a pussy Cheney isn't man enough to take responsibility for his mess?

I'm shocked.

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December 1, 2009 11:30 AM   

I am just amazed at the level of stupidity coming out of the senate as well as the white house. They have no idea what the average American citizen wants. They are so out of touch with reality it isn't funny. This guy is the epitome of ignorance and arrogance.

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December 1, 2009 11:31 AM   

SOP for the Bush/Cheney Administration:
(1) We never made a mistake.
(2) We never lie & we're always right.
(3) Propaganda Outlets (Weekly Std; FOX, POLITICO, et alia) repeat, lather, repeat.

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December 1, 2009 11:43 AM   

Folks, even if OBL had been captured soon after 9/11, I have no doubt that the Bushies would have still pushed for the occupation of Iraq. Bush brought up 'regime change' several times during the 2000 campaign, outta nowhere.

I cannot believe that Myers or Bush thought OBL to be unimportant, or that they would intentionally let OBL get away... too big of a feather-in-the-cap. OBL's importance was downplayed in those quotes above, only to justify the failure to catch him.

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December 1, 2009 12:17 PM    in reply to de TOQUEville

Wasn't it useful for them to have an elusive enemy they could use to scare us into accepting anything they wanted? They lost their big Cold War bugaboo when the Soviets fell. It was useful to have a new one.

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December 1, 2009 2:19 PM    in reply to jeffgee

True. Except now the prime bogeyman is Obama. How the hell did we get to a point where a significant portion of the population is scared to death of our duly elected Commander in Chief?

Not difference of opinion, or dislike due to policy choices, but plain, straight terror.

And not even for good reason, but because they're told to by the likes of Rush and Beck and Savage.

Just another legacy of the Bush 43 administration. Xenophobia as a way of life.

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December 1, 2009 11:53 AM   

Of course, the last eight years is was Clinton's fault, and the next eight years will be Obama's fault. Repukes are never at fault ... that is, they never effect change, whether they are in or out of power. Since only Democrats can effect change, good or bad, just elect them permanently so the blame is clear.

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December 1, 2009 11:59 AM   

Of course not. It's ACORN's fault.

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December 1, 2009 12:24 PM   

fuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoudiediediediediediedie

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December 1, 2009 12:37 PM    in reply to SOS ICEBERG

I couldn't find the words.

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December 1, 2009 12:32 PM   

One word: Halliburton. Cheney is a war monger and a war profiteer... plain and simple.

dick cheney involvement in iraq

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December 1, 2009 12:56 PM    in reply to jeebus

Dude, I agree about the profiteer and warmonger thing, but your tinfoil hat is out of tune. A plane hit the Pentagon.

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December 1, 2009 1:04 PM   

Dick Cheney...Breaking new ground for verbal tip-toe artists like Moosie, Tiger and the Salahis.

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December 1, 2009 1:09 PM   

What amazes me is anyone anywhere would ever vote for any republican again. That is truly mind boggling.

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December 1, 2009 1:13 PM   

Deny, deflect, and blame someone else...

Dick Cheney's mindset 'I am always right. If you disagree with me, you are always wrong'. That's about all there is to it.

It is clear that they let Osama go so that they could move forward with the war in Iraq. They never gave a damn about Afghanistan or catching Osama.

Dick Cheney belongs behind bars, he should not be having his psychotic opinions validated by news organizations.

He should be begging for forgiveness from every American and people all over the world for what he has done... instead he coasts along with his sick deviant behavior.

When is someone besides the comedians going to hold the psychos being allowed to run rampant in our government and politics accountable???!!!

Seriously!!

The fact that Cheney is giving his political opinion to news organizations and being given credibility every day is a HUGE reflection of an equal but opposite disease on the left.

Some sort of abused wife syndrome that tolerates and accommodates as much bull shit as the right wants to dish out.

We need some serious psychological intervention in our politics

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December 1, 2009 1:30 PM   

Dick Cheney gives me indigestion. Shouldn't he just be exercising his right to remain silent in preparation for his war crimes trial?

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December 1, 2009 1:52 PM   

This man is insane.

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December 1, 2009 1:57 PM   

Georgie: I don’t think we can win this thing in Afghanistan. That bin Laden guy is scary and I think he knows my address.
Dicky: FUCK ‘EM!!!
Georgie: No really, I don’t wanna be President if we lose a war.
Dicky: FUCK ‘EM!!! We’ll invade IRAQ!!! They have WMDs!!!
Georgie: Do they, really?!
Dicky: FUCK ‘EM!!! Who the hell cares? No one will know the difference! INVADE IRAQ!!! They’ll lose FOR SURE!!!
Georgie: Okay...I guess. I can haz banner?
Dicky: Yes, Georgie...now finish your ice cream then we’ll INVADE!!!! WMDs!!! PROFIT!!! TORTURE!!! It’ll be just like Medieval Times!!!
Georgie: I can haz SWORDS?
Dicky: Jesus.

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December 1, 2009 9:36 PM    in reply to WaitWut?

Thank you for making me laugh so hard I almost choked. I needed that.

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December 1, 2009 2:03 PM   

They are all completely mad...did you hear that bubble-head Dana Perino say "there were no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil while Bush Administration was in the White House....not that there are any eye-witnesses, video, recording devices of all kinds, actual time and date, video footage of those events (no wonder Republicans don't believe in science....it contradicts their version of the story)...you have to wait at least a hundred years for all eye-witnesses to be dead and buried and to be sure you have destroyed all the contradictory evidence)...before you revise history...Dana, Uncle Darth, (you "alternate universe" numb skulls)

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December 1, 2009 2:09 PM   

Put pressure on Obama, Holder and our Congress to prosecute them for the WMD Lies, the Afghan Failures, and especially the Conspiracy To Torture.

SIGN the PETITION
calling for prosecution at

ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

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December 1, 2009 3:23 PM   

Shut the hell up, dick.

What you are doing is, in your own words, "totally unworthy of national leaders in time of war."

From "I Sniff Some Politics" by Howard Fineman, Newsweek, 05/27/02:

"Soon after Bush's chesty Mansfield Room talk, Team Bush gathered itself, and fought back hard--"whacking the rats," as the aide put it. They dispatched Vice President Dick Cheney to wave the patriotic flag at a political dinner in New York, where he warned critics not to make "incendiary comments" that are "totally unworthy of national leaders in time of war." The Bushies even took the unprecedented step of wheeling out Laura Bush to defend her husband. Traveling in Budapest, Hungary, Mrs. Bush stayed up late to watch a Condi Rice briefing. The next morning the First Lady volunteered to reporters that it was "very sad that people would play upon the victims' families' emotions, or all Americans' emotions."

Wonder if little Jimmy VandeHei or Mikey Allen asked Cheney about his hypocrisy and doing the "unworthy?"

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December 1, 2009 4:06 PM   

In the sentence, "I basically don't" what is the purpose or implication of the word "basically"?

How is this sentence different from "I don't"?

Your rhetoric quiz for today.

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December 1, 2009 4:14 PM    in reply to Cal Gal

That is Cheney struggling to buy his own cart of road apples.

It's proof that he's being totally disingenuous. If he firmly believed the previous administration wasn't at fault, not only would the word 'basically' have been absent from that sentence, but he would have elaborated to make his point.

If recent months have proven anything, it's that the Cheney family isn't afraid to talk so long as they think someone will believe them.

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December 1, 2009 4:51 PM    in reply to Forrest

Very good, Forrest. You get an A ;-)

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December 1, 2009 4:17 PM   

He could have stopped at "I basically don't think..."

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December 1, 2009 5:36 PM   

He seems to be using the media as a blanket to fan smoke everywhere just hoping the fact that he was running a private contractor assassination company out of the WHITE HOUSE gets lost in the murkyness.

WHAT IS IT WITH RIGHT WINGERS ALWAYS HAVING TO HAVE A DEATH SQUAD? AND IT'S ALWAYS THE RIGHT WING DOING THESE EVIL DIRTY DEEDS, TO BAD HE COULD'NT DO IT DIRT CHEAP.

oh when you rule of law haters go after the above, we only have the phrase "right wing death squads" to go with here, there ain't no centurist death squads or left or liberal or progressive etc.etc.etc.

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December 1, 2009 11:30 PM   

Wow scary

ER
www.web-anonymity.de.tc

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December 2, 2009 2:29 AM   

Cheney has been wrong about everything. He knows foreign policy the same way the Detroit Lions know football.

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December 2, 2009 11:30 AM   

I'm no psychologist but Cheney just seems to be insane. He can not accept that he made any mistakes. It all seems "clear" in his mind. Yet, he's been wrong and made the wrong moves on everything. He just blusters through with this (yes) insane confidence.

Why he is in the public more now:

Uninformed people will simply respond to the unflinching confidence, he gets that feedback, and that creates an unbroken loop of self-supported delusion.

So, he uses the feedback (from the public) to fight the internal struggle with reality.

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December 2, 2009 2:43 PM   

Why does the press constantly give this troll and his pig-faced daughter a free pass? Oh I know. Because they're too chickenshit to go against any real opposition other than the asswipes they'll talk to.

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December 2, 2009 10:13 PM   

He has such lovely teeth...

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June 6, 2010 6:05 AM   

The GOP for the last 8 years fought the terrorists and the Dems which they loathe equally. It's what they do.

What Cheney is trying to say is they went into Afghanistan and abandoned the troops completely so whatever happened after they went into Iraq was on their own heads, not Cheney. Dick is admitting they had nothing to do with it. What's wrong with that? It's probably the most honest statement he ever made.

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