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Dem Leaders Say Health Care Bill Will Pass Next Week, Give No Details On What's In It

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid emerged from tonight's Democratic caucus meeting all smiles as he approached waiting microphones with several caucus leaders in tow. But in a short press conference where he took no questions, Reid and the other Democrats gave little information about what was accomplished in the emergency party meeting.

"This is like a steeplechase race with a couple of hurdles left," Reid said. "Democrats are not going to let the American people down."

Reid said a health care bill will pass the Senate next week, but he didn't say what would be in it. Neither did anyone else who spoke.

When Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) took the microphone, he expressed the same optimism about passing a bill. But he suggested the reforms he says will pass next week won't be the ones many health care reform advocates were hoping for.

"It's always easier to envision the bill you want than it is to pass the bill you want," Dodd said.

Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) highlighted what could be the new talking point about the Democratic reform bill. "This is the biggest tax cut since 2001," he said, referring to the tax credits and subsidies included in the legislation. He too was confident that something related to health care reform will pass soon.

"I know we're going to pass health care insurance reform for all Americans," Baucus said.

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December 14, 2009 7:54 PM   

Still not clear-- was Lieberman actually present at this meeting?

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December 14, 2009 8:05 PM    in reply to mcc

I think he's too busy writing the bill they're going to pass.

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December 14, 2009 8:54 PM    in reply to bluebell

Don't talk about President Lieberman that way!

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December 14, 2009 8:24 PM    in reply to mcc

Yes, he was.

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December 14, 2009 8:03 PM   

Kiss your majority goodbye dems. This is just ridiculous.

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December 14, 2009 8:06 PM   

Dodd and Reid will lose their seats in 2010, as will Lincoln. Reid has no guts and his seat loss will be addition by subtraction. He should have made Lieberscum filibuster rather than putting on his knee pads whenever Lieberman gave the indication that he will filibuster.

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December 14, 2009 8:07 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

Amen!

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December 14, 2009 8:06 PM   

If Reid says it'll pass next week, there's absolutely no chance of reconciliation, right?
Stupid Lieberman...

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December 14, 2009 8:42 PM   

If one more member of congress talks about tax cuts, I swear I'm flying to Washington and setting off stink bombs in the corridors of all the office buildings.

Tax cuts. God give me strength. We don't need tax cuts Baucus, you unmitigated tool; we need affordable health care. Good lord what an ass.

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December 14, 2009 8:42 PM   

"This is like a steeplechase race with a couple of hurdles left," Reid said. "Democrats are not going to let the American people down."

What the fuck do you think today was?

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December 14, 2009 8:56 PM   

Bulletin to all Americans who don't have health insurance:

Watch you mailbox for a lump of coal.

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December 14, 2009 9:02 PM   

The biggest tax cut since 2001? Yeah, maybe if you ignore the huge tax increases in the bill. But hey, I will be able to pay those taxes because I bet a bunch of people liberals in the Senate would cave on the public option.

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December 14, 2009 9:03 PM   

They know it's true because Joe Lieberman said he would back it!

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December 14, 2009 9:03 PM   

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Democratic Party just spend the better part of eight years attacking those 2001 tax cuts?

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December 14, 2009 9:06 PM   

Obama did run as a uniter. He has managed to unite the left and right in agreement that this is a shitty bill.

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December 14, 2009 9:14 PM    in reply to masanf

stop trying to be cute mansaf. If he passes ANYTHING, and he will, he'll be the 1st US president to ever do so.

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December 14, 2009 9:20 PM    in reply to ilovebacon

You say that like its a good thing???

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December 15, 2009 12:15 PM    in reply to henk

it IS a good thing. clinton got nowhere with his bill.

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December 14, 2009 9:47 PM    in reply to ilovebacon

Does Medicare not exist?

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December 14, 2009 9:20 PM   

Goodbye Democratic majority. Or, I should say, "Democratic majority," since it's anything but. Spineless, contemptible and inept.

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December 14, 2009 9:44 PM   

Bill or no Bill, when premiums continue to rise and insurance companies keep calling the shots, the Democrats can crow reform all they want, the voters will no be fooled. Unless and until they pass meaningful reform (which this does not look like at all) the Democrats are going to suffer at the polls because it doesn't take very long to spot bait and switch.

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December 14, 2009 10:05 PM    in reply to xargaw

Yep, that's the "gritty reality" that Rahm Emanuel apparently doesn't get, for all of his self-righteous "hardheaded pragmatism" and hatred for base progressives.

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December 15, 2009 6:37 AM    in reply to xargaw

If that happens, voters will rightly be angry and we'll be screwed in the midterms. Which will be totally fair.

But I don't think it will. The early effects of the bill will all be to make life a lot harder for insurance companies, and a lot better for the average consumer. That's because the way the billl is structured the health insurance regulation takes place immediately. So in the first couple of years, consumers will see nothing but improvement - not enough, but some.

And you know what? This is a good bill. Even without the public option it would be a good bill. In fact, it's a better bill than what Howard Dean was running on in 2004 - and THAT was considered insanely progressive legislation. I'm glad the goalposts have moved, and that we can now expect much more progressive legislation to get through. And I definitely think Joe Lieberman is being a schmuck.

http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2009/12/in-which-i-throw-up-my-hands-and-shout.html

But let's not ignore the very real improvements that this bill would make to the daily lives of Americans. It's easy to talk about rejectign anythign without the public option. It's another thing to tell someone with cancer who's just been rejected from her fifth insurer because she has a pre-existing condition that we could have fixed her problem but we decided not to.

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December 15, 2009 8:46 AM    in reply to KarinJR

Co-sign. Very well said. Thank you for putting it so clearly.

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December 15, 2009 8:48 AM    in reply to KarinJR

Except I think the word "schmuck" is far, far too kind ...

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December 14, 2009 10:39 PM   

This is the last straw. I have tried my best to believe in a big tent but when that big tent allows 2 or 3 dems to destroy reform, it's unforgivable in my eyes. I supported dems, campaigned for them, contributed money I didn't have, and believed in change. The next thing we hear will be that Nelson's abortion language will be included. This is not reform, this is a gift to rethugs and a punch to the gut of dems. I am 60 years old and this bill will destroy me. My employer will drop health insurance because, at my age, any policy will be a "cadillac" plan.

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December 15, 2009 12:10 AM   

Honestly people, the posts here are ludicrous. Do you think the GOP got their agenda that has driven us into the ground done in one election cycle? It started with Goldwater and took 20 years to gain any traction. It continued to develop from Reagan through Bush 2. We need to turn things around and it isn't going to happen in 1 year or even 10 years. This is a long fight.

This is a first step. You need to continue to fight. You need to push for a progressive agenda. The people in the WH and Capitol Hill got what they thought was legitimately possible. But we have to keep pushing, not throw in the F'in towel. If the GOP gets control again, it will be more Roberts and Alito on the Bench, it will be Health exchanges replaced with Health Insurance Tax Credits (aka everyman for himself), it will be Drill Baby Drill instead of investment in Green Energy. The GOP got what they did over the last 30 years because of persistence. Everyone here acts like getting this health care bill without a Public Option is the end of the world. I got news for you. It's not unless all you losers just give up now. Grow up people!!!!

This is not to say that I am hoping beyond hope that they will pass this without the PO and will come back next Spring or Summer (After Jobs Bill, Cap and Trade, EFCA, etc) and pass a Medicare for all buy in into the Exchange through reconciliation to get the base pumped up before the election. It probably won't happen, but it has no hope if everyone just gives up. Get to work people!!!!!

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December 15, 2009 2:12 AM   

Man, I sure hope the progressives in the House draw a line in the sand and stop this trainwreck. (I'm betting against it, BTW). They will fold, as usual...

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December 15, 2009 7:42 AM   

"Dem Leaders Say Health Care Bill Will Pass Next Week, Give No Details On What's In It"

That's because the White House doesn't care what's in it. Obama would sign a piece of soiled toilet paper and call it a great accomplishment.

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December 15, 2009 8:27 AM   

WE'LL PASS THE BILL THAT MAKES THE INSURANCE COMPANIES RICH!!! Screw you, working-class stiff with a family. We've got ours, and thanks for paying for it, we really appreciate that. Suckers.

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