
The Florida Republican Party organization is now in the midst of a civil war, with the latest shoe to drop being that embattled party chairman Jim Greer has called for a special executive committee meeting, in response to a request that he be ousted as chairman -- but at the same time, he's telling his enemies that the motion itself isn't allowed under the party rules.
Greer, an ally of moderate Gov. Charlie Crist, has come under fire by intra-party critics who accuse him of mismanaging the state GOP's finances. For his part, Greer is putting the blame for this controversy on allies of former state House Speaker Marco Rubio, the more conservative challenger against Crist in the Senate primary. And Greer has accused these critics of "slander," "libel," and even "treason" against the Republican Party!
Now Greer has sent out his new letter (available after the jump) calling the meeting, but declaring its raison d'etre of ousting him to be against the party's rules. "Chairman Greer is agreeing to call the special meeting in conjunction with the already-scheduled annual meeting to discuss a variety of issues the board has expressed interest in discussing -- one of which is to rescind his election as Chairman," Florida GOP press secretary Katie Gordon Betta explained to us. "By this letter, the Chairman is pro-actively informing the members that one of their intended motions is not permitted under party rules, in order to avoid confusion at the meeting in January."
Yes, this letter should probably help to avoid confusion, and will clear a lot of things up. But that's not all. Crist has also lost the support of some key GOP Congressmen in his Senate bid -- but nobody is exactly sure why.
Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart and Lincoln Diaz-Balart, who are leading figures in the Cuban-American GOP political community, have rescinded their endorsements of Crist. Lincoln Diaz-Balart wouldn't elaborate on the reason, except to give this cryptic comment: "We take our endorsements seriously, but the governor knows why we withdrew and he left us with no alternative."
The Miami Herald speculates that this might have happened because Crist snubbed the Diaz-Balarts in their attempt to have a friend of Lincoln's son appointed as a judge, instead picking a different candidate. Could something this picayune have led to a retraction of a Senate campaign endorsement?
Meanwhile, Greer's view of parliamentary procedure isn't actually shared by his detractors. Party vice-chairman Allen Cox, who is part of the anti-Greer movement, told the Orlando Sentinel: "This is the poorest example of constitutional and Robert's Rules logic I have ever seen. It's going to be challenged just as quickly as we can have our legal counsel develop a response."
Here's Greer's letter:
December 22, 2009
Dear Committee Members:
Pursuant to Article IX, Section 2 of the Constitution of the State Republican Executive Committee of Florida, and at the written request of a sufficient number of State Committee members, I am calling a special meeting of the State Executive Committee. The special meeting will be held in conjunction with the previously scheduled annual meeting of the State Executive Committee on January 9, 2010 at 9:00 a.m., at the Rosen Plaza Hotel in Orlando, Florida.
The stated purpose of the special meeting as set forth in the request is "to submit to the State Committee members for vote by secret ballot to: Rescind the January, 2009, election of the Chairman, Jim Greer, for charges and cause as stated [in the request]." The RPOF Constitution and Rules do not permit consideration of a motion to rescind the election of an officer.
Article IV, section 3 of the RPOF Constitution provides in relevant part that "[a]ll officers of the State Committee and Congressional District Chairmen shall be elected to a term of two (2) years." Article XI of the RPOF Constitution provides that "[t]he rules contained in Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised shall govern the State Committee in all cases to which they are applicable and in which they are not inconsistent with this Constitution of the State Committee." Chapter XX, section 61 of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised provides in relevant part that if "the bylaws provide that officers shall serve only a fixed term, such as "for two years," [as opposed to "two years or until their successors are elected"] . . . an officer can be deposed from office only by following the procedures for dealing with offenses by members outside a meeting."
Therefore, because the RPOF Constitution specifies fixed two year terms, rather than two years "or until their successors are elected," the
procedures for dealing with offenses by members outside a meeting as set forth in Rule 22 of the RPOF Rules of Procedure govern such disciplinary matters. Rule 22 does not provide for consideration of the motion described in the request for special meeting.
For these reasons, the stated purpose of the requested special meeting is not permitted under the RPOF Constitution and Rules.
Sincerely,
James A. Greer
Chairman
NobleCommentDecider
December 22, 2009 7:33 PM
'As the Teabagger Armies fell back in defeat and disarry, pressed on all fronts, there was an even fiercer competition for field leadership, with eminent commanders being abruptly stripped of power and heaped with disgrace. The goal being to gain some fleeting advantage as the Party's power dissolved'.
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MNPundit
December 22, 2009 7:43 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
You do realize Rubio can probably beat Meek, right?
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Just me again
December 22, 2009 9:49 PM in reply to MNPundit
I could beat Meek and I'm not even a Republican
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afterthought313
December 22, 2009 11:54 PM in reply to MNPundit
In a vacuum, you are most likely right that Rubio can beat Meek. Floridians are incredibly stupid and their politics is trivial and corrupt (I've lived in Miami for 3 years now).
BUT, there are a couple of scenarios that could totally change the dynamics of the race:
[1] Crist loses primary, runs as Indy
This, I think, would be handing Meek the election. Crist has a lot of money saved up and he's surprisingly popular given how bad Florida's been hit by the housing crash. He'd pull a good bit of the right and center. Meek would get the left and the back vote. Rubio would get the Cubans and the Fascists. I'm pretty sure the odds would favor Meek here.
[2] Crist pulls a Specter, runs as Dem
Crist might be able to take the D nomination over Meek, but I doubt it. If he did, he'd def. have the upper hand on Rubio. Although the hard-right is probably the most powerful political faction in Florida, it's not stronger than the center and left combined. Again, Crist is surprisingly popular.
If Crist went this route, Repubs would probably go after him for being gay (everyone knows he's gay, but Florida Rs don't seem to care so long as he pretends not to be).
[3] Rubio's imminent victory lures a stronger D into the mix
I'm not even sure what Dem could emerge. Maybe Alex Sink could switch from Gov to Senate race (not sure about Fla election laws).
Any of these 3 things happening would give the Dems an advantage, IMO.
Moreover, with Rubio running, I think the RSCC has to pour some money in to Florida, because Rubio is a hard right ideologue. You've got to spray some perfume on that turd, and it's expensive.
Ultimately, I'd like to re-emphasize how retarded Floridians are and how corrupt their politicians are. It's a terribly run state. The infrastructure sucks (probably because there is no income tax), and rich people generally do whatever the hell they want. Most of FL is going to be underwater in a couple decades anyways. Until then we're going to have to put up with their 'informed' voters.
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NobleCommentDecider
December 23, 2009 12:05 AM in reply to afterthought313
Nice summary.
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baldheadeddork
December 23, 2009 1:51 AM in reply to afterthought313
Write it down: Charlie Crist will not become a Democrat or run as an independent. Crist is both patient and smart, and unlike Arlen Specter he might have a twenty year career still ahead of him. He'll wait for the teabaggers to finish running the GOP into the ground and come in afterwards, maybe to get on a presidential ticket in 2012 or run against Bill Nelson in 2014.
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JEP07
December 23, 2009 3:12 AM in reply to baldheadeddork
"He'll wait for the teabaggers to finish running the GOP into the ground and come in afterwards,"
"Come in" to what?
Which Republican derivative will he partake of?
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JEP07
December 23, 2009 3:15 AM in reply to JEP07
And this isn't just a split, it is a fracture, with more than two new offshoot offspring spawned by this division.
There might be four or five totally different, identifiable entities that might rise from the Republican ashes.
Not likely they will want to work together, so don't expect a new majority any time soon, if ever again.
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Atropos
December 23, 2009 7:38 AM in reply to afterthought313
Gee, I'm shocked you choose to remain here in FL among the corrupt retards that turned the state purple and helped elect Barack Obama president. GTFO then.
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baldheadeddork
December 23, 2009 1:45 AM in reply to MNPundit
I wouldn't go so far as to say "probably". I lived in Fort Lauderdale from 2004 through 2007, and I think Meek has some advantages against Rubio that aren't showing up in the polls - yet.
The big one is immigration. The teabaggers want nothing to do with amnesty, and the state Republicans from outside of South Florida are in that camp, too. But it's suicide to run on that in Palm Beach, Broward or Miami-Dade if you want the Cubans to turn out for you. Rubio can't count on big support from the Cuban community unless he runs against the Republican and teabag party line on immigration, and his support from them will falter if he does present himself as a moderate. Remember, Mel Martinez would be running as an incumbent if immigration reform wasn't a big fracture point between the national conservative movement and Cuban Republicans - and that was before the rise of the teabaggers.
The second point is money. The teabagger movement is pushing a lot of people into Republican nominations with no history of being able to raise a lot of money for a statewide election, and Florida is going to be one of the most expensive states in the 2010 cycle. I don't see the grass roots organization from the teabaggers to raise money for a bunch of different races. If Meek can win the money battle by a substantial margin, I think he's got a real chance to pull this out.
The third thing is that Rubio has never been in this kind of spotlight. Never been in anything close to this. He's going to make mistakes and he's going to be put into uncomfortable situations he's not going to know how to handle. It's going to be made worse because he's going to get peppered constantly about endorsing the lunacy from the teabagger movement and that's going to be really hard to balance. (This is going to be true for a lot of the teabagger candidates in statewide races if they get the Republican nomination.)
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MNPundit
December 23, 2009 7:48 PM in reply to baldheadeddork
Oh. I thought the Cubans hated all the hispanics who weren't Cubans?
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FebM
December 23, 2009 7:15 AM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
Wolf said something on KO yesterday, When Obama won VA and Indiana it was a wake up call to the powers that be in this country, those stronger than the GOP, and they decided he must be stopped at whatever cost to the country.
And there you have it it does not matter what agenda he pursues, it will be No! No! until he is unpalatable especially to middle America.
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Maineblackbear
December 22, 2009 7:50 PM
the deal is, absent some massive party registration and turnout by the poor, that the Rs and the Libertarians outnumber the D's in this country. Charlie Crist is toast. Period. However, Rubio will be exposed as a right wing fruitcake by the D. In the long run, the best strategy for D's is to contribute money to far right lunatics, defeat reasonable ones and elect Democrats. It is unlikely that those of us on the left are organized enough to do so . . .
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Andreams
December 22, 2009 7:53 PM
After what Greer had to say about President Obama speaking to school children, I'd say this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. To me, he fits right in with the tea baggers; they're equal in their nastiness. I'd like to see him get his - especially since I'm a Florida liberal.
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Cal Damage
December 22, 2009 8:06 PM
The Collier County (FL)Democratic Club is meeting right now. I'm sure they'll be enjoying themselves.
The best moment of the '08 campaign was, long after they'd called the election for Obama, they called Florida for Obama. THAT was the BIG celebration down here.
Too bad FL hasn't got any movie stars. We could sure use some Schwarzenegger-fication to bury the Republican brand once and for all.
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Seraph
December 22, 2009 8:29 PM
This is why I'm less worried than I otherwise might be about 2010. As hard as the Dems are working to lose it (and as much as historical precedent is against them), the Repubs are trying even harder.
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CityGuy
December 22, 2009 9:11 PM in reply to Seraph
That seems about right. All the reactionary elements in the GOP are now in the drivers seat, swerving further and further to the right. The most outlandish rhetoric is now standard fare in that party. And as for its standard bearers? Right-wing jokes, all of them! To sum it up, the Dems are shooting themselves in A foot. But the Repukes are shooting themselves in BOTH feet.
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Ethan
December 22, 2009 8:44 PM
Greer was that guy who started the conspiracy theory in late August that the president's address to schoolchildren was being done with the intent to brainwash them.
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W T F
December 22, 2009 10:51 PM
Jeb's been a busy little Santa's helper this holiday season, hasn't he?
Feliz Navidad!
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FebM
December 22, 2009 11:04 PM
In other news....
How do I know China wrecked the Copenhagen deal? I was in the room
As recriminations fly post-Copenhagen, one writer offers a fly-on-the-wall account of how talks failed
The truth is this: China wrecked the talks, intentionally humiliated Barack Obama, and insisted on an awful "deal" so western leaders would walk away carrying the blame. How do I know this? Because I was in the room and saw it happen.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas
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SaintGenesius
December 22, 2009 11:07 PM
I have to say, the Democrats have made errors, all of them logical in their own way. I am personally disappointed by the lack of a public option in the healthcare reform legislatin in the Senate.
But all this doom-saying about the Democratic Party and its leadership is a bit odd. Frankly, considering everything, the Democrats are doing a pretty good job. They might want to sell it a bit more --but they are fixing the disaster that was the Bush years and actually moving the nation forward. All this in the face of unrelenting criticism from fanatics on the right and a nation of voters who have the patience of a gnat.
Let's enjoy the progress for a moment. I would like to see the Democrats point the gun at the GOP, but I believe that will come.
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afterthought313
December 23, 2009 12:04 AM in reply to SaintGenesius
I think this comment is basically right. The Dems have been too cautious and too corrupt, but they've still done a reasonable job (again, we have to recognize that collective action is incredibly difficult and that our political system is essentially broken).
However, I'm not sure the D leadership/consultant class can break away from the beltway group think enough to really 'point the gun' at Republicans. This would require some faith in progressive principles, and I think that the leadership has no principles.
Although the health care bill kinda illustrates this point, it is ultimately a massive expansion of social insurance with subsidies to poor people. It's a huge piece of policy and I'll be happy when it passes. All this public option stuff was more or less symbolic (the one Harry Reid proposed would have covered only like 6 million people).
Anyhow, the Dems will muddle through. Hopefully, the fear that this country will literally collapse under teaparty rule will motivate them to stay in power. If not, god help us all.
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OceanDog
December 23, 2009 1:05 AM
"One of these things is not like the other..." re: the photo collage. Four white guys and one orange dude. Any orange person should not be allowed to run for office.
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william
December 23, 2009 7:46 AM
Same old story, extremist demand ideological purity eventually turn on pragmatist.
The Republician party just keeps shrinking their base.
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