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Everybody knows the health care debate has become more and more contentious, and dominated by a Republican parliamentary effort to delay the debate. But an under-appreciated aspect of this whole controversy -- exceedingly rare, if not unprecedented -- is the fact that it's even affected defense spending, with Senate Republicans having worked to hold that up, too!

Late on Thursday night, the Senate voted 63-33 to break a Republican filibuster of the defense appropriations bill. Only three Republicans voted against this delay of military spending: Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX), Olympia Snowe (ME) and Susan Collins (ME). The filibuster was part of a Republican effort to further delay the health care bill.

So think for a second about what happened here. The Senate GOP sought to hold up military spending -- and not because of an argument with the defense appropriations bill itself or something in it that might have been offensive to them, but in an attempt to block a domestic political debate. It was an especially interesting position for a party that repeatedly accused then-Senator Barack Obama, during the 2008 campaign, of trying to "defund the troops" when he voted against a military funding bill because it didn't include a timeline to withdraw from Iraq.

Is there even a precedent for this sort of thing? We put that question to Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and also asked whether it would be accurate to look at this and say that funding for the military was being held hostage in a domestic political dispute.

"Let me put it this way. Strange things often happen at the end of congressional sessions, especially in the Senate," Mann said. "Those seeking to block action are even better positioned than usual. But I have never seen a Senate minority act in so unified and extreme (though ultimately unsuccessful) a fashion to deny the president a vote on his highest domestic priority. It is entirely accurate to say that troop-funding was being held hostage to a domestic political dispute. They gambled that a successful filibuster on the defense bill would force the Democrats to defer health reform until next year. They lost."

But what would have happened if there hadn't been 60 votes to cut off debate on the defense bill? Would defense spending have been held up? Mann said that in that case, Republicans would have ended their filibuster -- but only once it became clear that Democrats wouldn't be able to keep their Christmas-eve schedule on the health care bill. Another possibility could have been the use of short-term funding bills.

We asked Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell whether it was appropriate to hold up passage of a defense bill as part of a domestic political battle. McConnell spokesperson Jennifer Morris directed us to this statement by McConnell at a Friday press conference: "Now, the defense bill will pass; it just won't pass as quickly as he [Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid] would like for it to pass. But he's in charge of the schedule. He's got the debt ceiling hanging out there. He's got the defense bill to pass. And he's trying to jam the American people on this mysterious bill that no one has seen before Christmas."

The Democratic National Committee has signaled that Dems could use this to political advantage in 2010, with a national cable TV ad: "Republicans are so desperate to block health reform and protect their special interest friends that they delayed funding for our men and women in uniform. Then they voted against it. Tell Republicans to stop playing politics with health care. And to stop playing politics with our troops."

Let's see whether this one sticks in 2010, and whether the Democrats keep it up as a political attack.

Late Update: I just spoke to Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and he also didn't know of any prior example like this: "I've never seen anything like that one before."

"I've just not seen, and you almost never see, filibusters used against uncontroversial items to use as leverage against controversial items. It's one thing to filibuster an issue straight up. It's some other thing to use it in this way," said Ornstein.

"The caveat to that is, we've often seen instances where you're right at the end of the year and there's must-pass legislation, and individual Senators will hold them up as hostages to get things done," said Ornstein. "A pet issue or a state thing -- but a party to use a filibuster in this way, it's not anything I've seen."

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December 21, 2009 3:20 PM   

Why do Republicans hate America? Why do Republicans hate American soldiers? Why do Republicans want our soldiers to go unequipped, unfed, unarmed, in the war the Republicans started?

Inquiring minds (none of them Republican) want to know.

Starting with, which 4 Republican Senators didn't think this important enough to show up for?

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December 21, 2009 3:32 PM    in reply to Cal Damage

Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cornyn (R-TX)

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December 21, 2009 3:55 PM    in reply to geofu54

But those guys all suck!

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December 21, 2009 4:03 PM    in reply to OhioMan

I just answered Cal Damage's question of which four...

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December 21, 2009 4:20 PM    in reply to OhioMan

Seriously: Are there any Senate Republicans who don't suck? I mean, really? Even so-called "moderates" like Snowe and Collins have been voting in lock-step with what their leaders tell them to do. So the question is, which Republican Senators don't suck?

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December 21, 2009 4:24 PM    in reply to dougom

So the question is, which Republican Senators don't suck?

Um, you know the answer.

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December 21, 2009 5:21 PM    in reply to geofu54

Lar's back in Idaho. Get your mind out of the gutter.

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December 21, 2009 3:33 PM    in reply to Cal Damage

On the contrary, they thought it was too important to show up for.

Why did the chickens cross the road? Because if they hadn't, they'd have had to man up and choose between not supporting the troops or not supporting their leadership and their party's zealots.

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December 21, 2009 4:53 PM    in reply to Cal Damage

Why won't Republicans support the troops.

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December 21, 2009 5:22 PM    in reply to Darrius

Because they only care about getting and holding power.

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December 21, 2009 5:09 PM    in reply to Cal Damage

It's time for The Gloomy Opposition Party to go home and watch A Christmas Carol.
I'm still hoping they will see themselves as they truly are - Scrooge.

They are so fear driven that they finally have the reality they fear. They are becoming less important while We The People want something different. There are 40 Republicans, and a few conservative dems who need to visited by the Christmas ghosts.

The Christmas miracle will be the a Republican awakening to its Scrooge-like behavior. Remember, Scrooge mended his ways.

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December 21, 2009 9:49 PM    in reply to Cal Damage

Yes, after all their palaver about Democrats not supporting the troops, amazing that Republicans could care so little about the troops to delay the military funding bill. Then there is their obvious disregard for children as demonstrated by their impeding the vote on health care. So they pull a stunt about military funding to delay a vote on health care. These guys are totally corrupt and my own party makes me ashamed. As a Republican, I can only conclude that they are totally uncaring for both the military folks and their multiple deployments as well as for the sick adults and children throughout our country. What callous behavior of these desk heroes in our party. What will they stoop to next. The Republican brand is in the toilet now. One wonders if we will ever recover.

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December 21, 2009 3:21 PM   

Republicans voted against a defense appropriations bill in order to stymie passage of an industry-friendly health insurance bill. I found the liberals!

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December 21, 2009 3:40 PM    in reply to destor23

Rowdy Roddie Piper? Love the avitar...

It is interesting when progressive ends are being served by right wing ideologues. There's a kundaline-esque quality to it all...

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December 21, 2009 3:48 PM    in reply to ClosetLuddite

Rowdy Roddy Piper? I don't think so, HAHAHA!!! Get ready for a chair shot, I thought I just heard a...WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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December 21, 2009 3:29 PM   

Why do the Democrats hate the middle class?

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December 21, 2009 3:37 PM    in reply to rbeats

You still here? Aren't you supposed to be looking for another country?

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December 21, 2009 3:41 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Why do the Democrats hate the middle class?

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December 21, 2009 3:56 PM    in reply to rbeats

Why do trolls hate civil discourse?

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December 21, 2009 3:59 PM    in reply to rbeats

Why do Republicans love insane billionaires?

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December 21, 2009 3:43 PM    in reply to rbeats

After what Bush and company have done to the country, what middle class?

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December 21, 2009 4:49 PM    in reply to rbeats

Why are you so easily fooled?

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December 21, 2009 6:18 PM    in reply to rbeats

You're projecting again...You should really seek help for that.

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December 22, 2009 7:55 AM    in reply to rbeats

Dearest rbeats, democrats of course have never hated America. It is the meme pushed by wingers, who seemingly hate everyone and everything that isn't like them. (White, old, bald and male)
But to be an adequate troll you must at least be amusing, and yet you are not amusing, just a mocking bird, you know you repeat your one memorized line over and over again, and although I am sure Rush and Beck really appreciate your lack of creative analysis, I just find it sad. It is telling that you throw in with the weak anti-American one liners constantly fed to you from the overlords of Mordor. Those lines reveal you to be nothing more than another winger on the wrong side of the IQ bell curve. But no, I am so not surprised by this. Tell me rbeats, why is it you hate your fellow Americans, who don't believe the same things you do? Is it the authoritarian fuck buried deep within your warped personality that is alive in all wingers?
Yeah, that is exactly what I thought.
Yes, Yes I would surmise that it is.
Good day to you, sir.

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December 21, 2009 3:40 PM   

this was a bald face desperate hail mary by the repugs...and they failed miserably. I almost feel sorry for them. I would use this tactic in a political ad for every single democrat up for re-election in 2010. I hope the Dems do not forget, because I believe this blatant christmas tactic will be coming back to take a huge chunk out of some repugs behind in 2010

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December 21, 2009 3:40 PM   

DEM's are middle class.

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December 21, 2009 3:42 PM   

Why did he do what he did.

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December 21, 2009 3:45 PM   

Yes, I posted they should make an ad.

Where is my consulting fee?

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December 21, 2009 4:02 PM   

Birthers, teabaggers, radical right wing "christians", secessionist, healthcare anti-reformist,etc., are all the same core group of poor, uninformed ultra-conservative pawns tricked by the corporate masters and cheerleadered by AM conservative talk radio to get these people to believe and vote against their own self interest.

It isn't any wonder that the main weapon to keep the rank and file conservatives in check is fear. Conservatives fear that their guns are going to be taken away, they fear that U.S. will become socialist, they fear that health care reform will kill off the elderly, they fear that the president is a muslim, they fear that when minorities are in power that reverse racisms will run rampant, they fear that every nation under the sun wants to destroy the U.S. and on and on. This is the main message of Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, et al. to be afraid. After 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week conservatives literally become
brainwashed through the radio and then some on Fox news to be afraid and angry.

Conservatives don't even know what exactly they are trying to conserve. They speak of fair play and freedom but when a group other than their circumscribed group speaks about and want such things (i.e. gay rights, immigrants, minorities, the poor)these ideas suddenly become liberal pandering.

Conservatives don't realize that what they fear most is change. The changing of American society and of the world. Thus their behavior is not much different from other conservative movements around the world, i.e. Taliban, Al Qaida, Likud, Abadgaran. These groups want to maintain the status quo and use fear and sometimes violence to achieve their means. These groups target the same type of people to believe in their ideology. These are usually the poor, rural denizens who feel that the rest of society is moving too fast and that they are being excluded because the city centers are thriving and they are not.

It is this simple mind trick that has allowed the military-industrial complex to roll along unabated for so long. The very thing president Dwight Eisenhower,a Republican, warned against. However, it was only recently that Republicans were up in arms against the slashing of the military budget and discontinuance of the F-22. This is just another example of how twisted and convoluted conservatism/republicanism is. It contradicts one of their venerated leaders and ideals.

Unfortunately, contradiction and hypocrisy have become the norm for conservatives, so much so that entire shows are based on it and have become very popular (The Colbert Report, Countdown, The Daily show etc.). When conservatives are confronted with this, the usual retort is that it’s the “main stream media” distortion, wholly ignoring that “main stream” = normal or average, non-fringe. Again this is just fear working on these people, fear that their ideology is being pushed to the fringe creating the us vs them mentality.

“No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear.” Edmund Burke.


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December 21, 2009 5:20 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

The unreasoning fear of change that you describe goes beyond conservative; what you describe is what I would call reactionary.

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December 21, 2009 5:27 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

Don't forget the "Hollywood elite" mentioned by James Inhofe in Copenhagen when he was trying to find a scapegoat to justify his global warming denial.

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December 21, 2009 4:03 PM   

How can any true progressive Democrat call this current bill other than a sham? How can you consider; negotiating from universal/single payer to public option to medicare buy in to mandating persons to buy a product that is known to be inadequate for consumers with few legal protections and on top of that still have to buy overpriced drugs, a success for Americans?

This is exactly how the average democratic voter will view this and this is what the elected Democratic leadership is failing to realize who support this bill and who say in so many words “…it’s a start and at least something”. To the average democratic voter this looked like the negotiating skills of an 18 year old trying to buy his/her first car. No wonder it was easy for Bush to scam Democrats into the Iraq war. Voter apathy is the quickest way to lose a majority. Those who believed that some real change was going to happen will not come out in 2010 and possibly not even for 2012.

Progressives should begin to put these leaders to task if the Democrats cannot stand by their ideals.

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December 21, 2009 5:14 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

If this were the one and only chance for health care reform, I would agree with you.

But I think that if it passes, you will get a chance to fix it in 4 years or so when the initial problems become evident. On the other hand, if it fails to pass, it may not be revisited for a generation.

In politics, momentum is critical.

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December 21, 2009 10:01 PM    in reply to BillSoo

Yes, pass this one even with all Democrats voting for it and no Republican. Then, with it signed into law, it can be tinkered with. Incremental is better than none. Imagine who all those 33 million people who would then be covered will vote next time. Besides without reform, people will continue to die needless just because they have no money nor insurance that allows them medical care. Sorry to say, my own Republican party is on the wrong side of this issue.

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December 21, 2009 4:05 PM   

The recent tom-foolery in the Senat is further proof, that the jingoistic, uber-patriotic rhetoric by the republicans is just that, empty rhetoric. The republicans/conservatives don't care about human lives, concerning military operations nor domestic welfare. How can anyone support a party whose ultimate goal is political gamesmanship to keep the status quo? Democrats are not much better, being to spineless to hold up to their ideals. Negotiating like a bunch of dithering do-nothings.
People who support this type of buffoonary need to really look at what they are contributing too. This is the type of crap that makes government so inefficient, in particular the Senate. At least this debate on health care opens the eyes of the aveage lay person to realize how Senators have become the House of Lords and that this so-called aristocratic bunch believe they can play games while people are dying here and abroad. They have totally forgotten that they are supposed to be representatives of the people.
I suggest starting a movement for a total recall of the Senate of both Republicans and Democrats.

Progressives need to take these leaders to task.

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December 21, 2009 6:30 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

Pond scum is what they are.

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December 21, 2009 4:15 PM   

983 Billion. That is how much money is going to the Military in direct and indirect spending this year. That is more then Social Security, more then the 10 year projected cost of the shitty Health Care bill, more then the rest of the world combined. Why the fuck is that not being debated?

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December 21, 2009 9:09 PM    in reply to Saladin

with a name like saladin we allknow why you want a debate.

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December 21, 2009 9:09 PM    in reply to Saladin

with a name like saladin we all know why you want a debate.

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December 21, 2009 4:16 PM   

uh, yes I did know that happened.

Perhaps the fact that you're asking that to your audience is evidence of a complete failure on your part.

Why wasn't this frontline news when it happened?
Oh right, probably because you all were focusing on the small tea bagger protest outside of capital hill.

Ya'll need to get on message. You guys can't drive the message. Take it on.

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December 21, 2009 4:20 PM   

Filibustering the defense appropriations bill is probably the most idiotic thing they've done so far.

It's a political gift for the Democrats that will keep on giving for at least a year or two.

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December 21, 2009 4:38 PM    in reply to Icon

I would really hate to have to judge a contest to determine the most idiotic thing done by Republicans in any year. How could anything top having them all rush back to Washington, DC to vote to override the doctors who declared that woman in Florida to be utterly brain dead? How could anything top nominating GW Bush for president in 2000? Could anything conceivably top insulting a president in a joint session of congress on national TV? I think it would be easier to judge which grain of sugar in a 5 pound bag is the sweetest.

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December 21, 2009 5:03 PM   

Some news for those of you wanting a third party: We have one. They're called the Republicans. The only debate on this issue is happening between progressive and conservative Democrats. How embarrassing!

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December 21, 2009 5:23 PM   

your post shows the difference between the so-called republicans and democrats. you spent time trying to understand the nuance..."Is there even a precedent for this sort of thing?"...republicans would jump right for the jugular. hell, we were talking about this in the comments section of another post last week. pay attention!!!

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December 21, 2009 5:59 PM   

Those that screamed from the rooftops for a "straight up or down vote" and "support the troops" when it helped their position were quick to adopt the very means they previously condemned.

I know it's a bit dark, but it has been fun to watch these two bit hypocrites bet heavy on their own constituents really being that stupid.

And stupid they sure as h*ll are.

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December 21, 2009 6:01 PM   

I will bring this up every time a GOP chickenhawk whines about the Democrats being soft on Defense.

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December 21, 2009 6:28 PM   

Has anyone seen the MSM cover this story. I don't watch TV other than Rachel so I don't know if this story was covered.

The party in Washington has changed but the Media is still aligned with the thugs for sure.

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December 21, 2009 8:46 PM   

Remember the Waterloo thing? If Obama can't pass HCR, he will have met his Waterloo!!! Well, ... so, when will the GOPPERS surrender? ...now or waste their Christmas, too, in delaying, before they accept their Waterloo moment.

These guys are just so much toast!!!

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December 21, 2009 8:50 PM   

Also, is anyone working on the 2010 succeessor to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY)? he did a REALLY good job in 2009!! Yah! Let's keep him and Michael Steele around another year!! Lot's GOPPERS feel that way, I'll bet....

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December 22, 2009 11:21 AM   

Nice ad but with no legs. As usual the democrats sit silent. Where the hell is the outrage? Where are the press conferences? Where are the talking heads on the cable news shows? You would think by now the spineless democrats would know how this game is played. There is no messaging, no framing of the debate or controlling the news cycle and spin. The republicans are experts at the outrage and controversy game. The democrats are never prepared for this battle because they have no warriors. Hey Democrats it’s about supporting the troops remember

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December 22, 2009 11:23 AM   

No one in America knows about this shameful and horrid act because the democrats are not making this an issue. And they wonder why they lose every battle

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June 6, 2010 10:21 PM   

How can any true progressive Democrat call this current bill other than a sham? How can you consider; negotiating from universal/single payer to public option to medicare buy in to mandating persons to buy a product that is known to be inadequate for consumers with few legal protections and on top of that still have to buy overpriced drugs, a success for Americans?

This is exactly how the average democratic voter will view this and this is what the elected Democratic leadership is failing to realize who support this bill and who say in so many words “…it’s a start and at least something”. To the average democratic voter this looked like the negotiating skills of an 18 year old trying to buy his/her first car. No wonder it was easy for Bush to scam Democrats into the Iraq war. Voter apathy is the quickest way to lose a majority. Those who believed that some real change was going to happen will not come out in 2010 and possibly not even for 2012.

Progressives should begin to put these leaders to task if the Democrats cannot stand by their ideals.

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