
Republicans on Capitol Hill were overjoyed today by a new Department of Health and Human Services audit of the Democratic health care reform bill in the Senate they say shows the reforms will weaken America's health care system rather than strengthen it.
"This report should put the dagger in the heart of the Reid bill," Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) told reporters this afternoon.
But the Democrats and the White House say Republicans are just reading the report wrong to further their plans to scuttle the bill.
Details on the report from CBS News:
The actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), part of the Department of Health and Human Services, said in its report that spending from 2010 through 2019 would increase by 0.7 percent, primarily because of the "greater utilization of health care service by individuals becoming newly covered."An additional 33 million would be insured under the bill, the report said.
McCain was joined by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and other GOP leaders at the press conference where the group heralded the report as finally telling the truth about the Democratic reform package.
"This report confirms what we've long known," McConnell said. "The Democrat plan will increase costs, raise premiums, and slash Medicare. That's not reform. This analysis speaks for itself."
But Democrats argued the report said something very different. From a White House blog post on the report published this afternoon:
So how did reform's opponents manage to use this report to claim that costs will increase? They cherry-picked total expenditures at a singular, fixed point in time - ignoring the overall rate of cost growth, the impact on Medicare and America's seniors, and the fact that millions of more Americans will be covered.It's the kind of claim folks here in Washington love. It might be technically "true" but it hardly explains the truth.
This evening, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had a similar take. From his statement:
"Senate Democrats are edging closer to delivering reform to America's broken health system. Today's report from the CMS actuary confirms that our bill will extend the Medicare Trust Fund's solvency by nine years and reduce seniors' premiums by $300 per couple per year by 2019. We are continuing to strengthen this bill on the Senate floor, and we're already closer than ever to delivering historic reform to our broken health care system."
Read more about McCain's role in the health care debate here.
calchala
December 11, 2009 7:06 PM
I really, really, really hate John McCain. He needs to apologize for Palin. Plain and simple.
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tiowally
December 11, 2009 7:19 PM in reply to calchala
He needs to do more than that. He needs to take a "dagger to his heart." However I'd settle for a simple act of seppuku if he has trouble finding his heart, which he no doubt will.
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FreeRider
December 11, 2009 7:31 PM in reply to calchala
He's as bad as Palin. Why should he apologize?
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Langx
December 13, 2009 1:16 AM in reply to calchala
Palin? The Entire Republican party needs to apologize for Bush. They destroyed our country.
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Ethan
December 11, 2009 7:45 PM
Actually, that's not that bad. It means that the bill will significantly stem the rate at which the costs are rising.
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sunnysteve
December 11, 2009 7:51 PM
Senator McCain: On that new car you ordered? First of all, we're giving every member of your family the same car. Secondly, each one will have better radios, 100,00 mile tires, free servicing for the first 200,000 miles, and stop in for a free wash and vacuum any time you wish. Your total bill will, or course, increase a bit, we think about 0.7 per cent.
What!?! That's a price increase! Do you think I'm stupid or something?
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10000cranes
December 11, 2009 7:59 PM
"... reduce seniors' premiums by $300 per couple per year by 2019."
Wait a minute ... that's $25 a month ... by 2019, that, by current trends should be worth about 25¢ a month. And that's for a couple. For a single person, that would account for a savings of 12¢ a month. McCain could be right if that's true. (He'd be right for the wrong reason. I'm no McCain fan by any stretch)
That's a ridiculous claim from Mr. Reid for "... edging closer to delivering reform to America's broken health system. " (I'm not presupposing that their won't be other benefits as well.)
Just my 2¢ worth.
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dnegri
December 11, 2009 10:34 PM in reply to 10000cranes
Is that 2 cents in today's dollar or 2019?
But I think you're overdoing your belittling of any reductions to seniors. Anytime one can pay less for something 10 years from now should be applauded. Even if mildly,
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jollyroger
December 12, 2009 12:07 AM in reply to 10000cranes
2¢ worth.
Considering how far off the mark your inflation prediction is, two cents would appear to be an unconscionably inflated price for your thoughts...
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slb
December 12, 2009 7:16 PM in reply to jollyroger
He is apparently using Karl Rove's math.
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jollyroger
December 12, 2009 8:26 PM in reply to slb
You have been misled into thinking that Karl said "I have the math"--actually, he had been hanging out with Flush Rimjob too long, and caught that damn *lisp. Karl actually said "I have the mass, referencing his corpulence. This was misheard (perhaps intentionally by evilmeaning biased media types) as "math", and the rest is history.
*I would pay to hear Flush say "suffering succotash..."
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chartreuse dog
December 14, 2009 5:51 AM in reply to 10000cranes
Seniors are currently paying around $100 a month for Medicare, so saving $25 per month for a couple would be over 10% savings. I wouldn't mind saving 10% on my Medicare premium.
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Maritza
December 11, 2009 8:21 PM
CBO has the final word on anything. CMS said the same thing about the House bill yet they passed it.
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Ethan
December 11, 2009 8:47 PM in reply to Maritza
Yes, that's true.
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masanf
December 12, 2009 11:13 AM in reply to Maritza
Is that all you have to say about anything is "wait till the CBO report comes out". This bill is done for, period.
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Stroszek
December 12, 2009 11:56 AM in reply to masanf
No, it's really not.
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Jyrinx
December 11, 2009 9:01 PM
Of course, this is all before factoring in whatever God-awful compromise they're coming up with …
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ilovebacon
December 11, 2009 9:15 PM
Republicans are NOT voting for health reform anyway. Who the hell is McDick trying to sway?
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cwnidog
December 11, 2009 9:48 PM in reply to ilovebacon
They're laying the groundwork for 2010 and 2012. It takes a lot of time to try and make covering an additional 10% of the population for a 0.7% increase in cost (caused mainly by those 10% actually getting treatment and improving their health) as a bad thing.
I'm not sure I could do it. But then I've always been handicapped by not being a money-grubbing right wing whore. I didn't say "K Street whore", so I'm OK.
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dnegri
December 11, 2009 10:31 PM
Good old John. Hollering about cuts to Medicare that are nowhere near the size of those that he advocated on the campaign trail. Good old John. Railing against cap and trade when he himself has co-sponsored legislation in the same vein.
Good old John. Still the phony. John first, Party second, Country third
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hollywood
December 12, 2009 9:18 PM in reply to dnegri
John first, party second, country third. Exactly.
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dnegri
December 11, 2009 10:36 PM
And of course both the CMS and the CBO are restricted from factoring in possible cost reductions in delivery of health care.
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nova voter
December 11, 2009 10:57 PM
john mccain doesn't like daggers to the heart. he prefers to stick them in the back. just ask his first wife.
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jollyroger
December 12, 2009 8:09 PM in reply to nova voter
first wife
You mean the one who waited prayerfully for her flyboy to come home?--Hey! She shoulda' stayed out of the way of that car accident--can't expect a war hero to walk around with a cripple on his arm...Not when there's a big money babe available for nothing down ( with the trade-in.)
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msbadger
December 13, 2009 4:05 AM in reply to jollyroger
No kidding. That alone is enough to make me detest him. I surely hope he fails in whatever endeavors he attempts in the future. He deserved the Palin Fail. Thank God the country wasn't fooled.
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Stroszek
December 11, 2009 11:06 PM
So basically, the nation as a whole will spend more on health care because more people will have access to health care. I suppose that would be horrible from the Republican point of view.
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Stroszek
December 11, 2009 11:08 PM in reply to Stroszek
Ah, and I see the AP's report on this is basically just a stenographed RNC memo. Nice!
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Dan Blaker
December 11, 2009 11:09 PM
According to the most recent HHS Historical Report (PDF), the National Healthcare Expenditures DOUBLED from 1997-2007. That's an increase of 100% over a decade. And McCain is jumping on a report that NHE will increase by 0.7% in the next decade?
RIP, GOP.
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mk3872
December 11, 2009 11:50 PM
McCain's take is actually the same way it is being reported in the press, too.
Why is the DNC unable to get their message out instead of always the negative "Party of NO" message ??
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ericf
December 12, 2009 1:28 AM
So Republicans say it's going to increase costs and cut Medicare at the same time. Democrats must be clever. Or Republicans are irrational.
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SleepinJeezus
December 12, 2009 6:40 AM
Oh, he's so cute when he gets all mavericky and stuff. Kinda' like Grandpa when he complains about not enough raisins in his oatmeal and then screams "Where's my gun! I'll get the bastards responsible for this!"
Cut the guy some slack. Dementia - when combined with soullessness - is a pretty tough hand to play. Give him credit for at least keeping his clattering teeth in his mouth as he sputters nonsense like this.
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Moloko+
December 12, 2009 8:18 AM
This is an ideological fight. Cooperative methods of deploying healthcare can not be allowed to succeed no matter what. Billionaires know that they can not allow a cooperative model to be seen as a viable alternative to competition. The problem is that the healthcare debate shines a light on a serious ethical problem. If you want competition then you have to admit that leaving out millions of people is just fine as long as the billionaires continue to obscenely profit. The healthcare debate shines a light on these people and provides an opportunity for all Americans to ask themselves - is this who we are? Is there not a better way?
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hollywood
December 12, 2009 9:32 PM in reply to Moloko+
Wow that is a great concise analysis of the heart of this matter. Thanks.
I absolutely believe that without the endless greed and lies of the insurance profiteers, the basic goodness of the American people would win out in this and we would insure everyone. It is so sad to realize now at the endgame of 'reform' that the moneyfuckers have won. America is not a democracy. The rules are written to favor the rich and to the harm of everyone else. It does not matter what most people want or believe is fair. Public Option anyone? We are an evil empire.
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sbv
December 12, 2009 10:08 AM
this is the mess we the american people find ourselves in when congress, taking single payer medicare for all off the table, tries to reconcile two irreconcilable interests - health care reform and the health insurance industry's engorged profits.
frankly the mess the country is in, in its entirety from health care reform to wall street reform to energy independence, can not be resolved while those we have elected to do the public good are only interested in doing their own good.
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ilovebacon
December 12, 2009 10:20 AM
The stall tactic is more chilling than we think (and a bit ironic): Sen. Robert Byrd is extremely old and in frail health. Does it really behoove the imagination to conclude that the GOP has decided to wait it out till he passes, depriving Democrats of one more precious vote?
The ironic part? Old Man Mac is not exactly is the prime of youth. He's become--dare I say it--more senile and bumbling than just last year. Dementia, at minimum, seems to have set in.
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LBJs Brain
December 12, 2009 11:00 AM
Talking about missing the forest for the trees. Sorry, John: /fail.
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pmb50
December 12, 2009 11:13 AM
At least McCain and the republicans can sell. Do you here one democrat touting the CBO postitive score of their healthcare plan. Hey Johnny where the fuck is your plan. Thats the real daggar asshole.
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masanf
December 12, 2009 11:27 AM
This is two straight reports from the guy who runs Medicare indicating explicitly that the proposed Medicare cuts will lead to decreases in service while the overall bill will do nothing to decrease costs, and the Democrats have ignored both. The CMS reports also indicated TWENTY PERCENT of hospitals would be hurt by the Medicare cuts. And tens of millions would still be left uninsured by the bill.
There is no way this report can be spun as good news.
How many nails does this terrible bill need in its coffin?
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Stroszek
December 12, 2009 11:55 AM in reply to masanf
Actually, it says about 7 million will be uninsured, but since you Republicans have been ridiculous hypocrites every step of the way, I won't be surprised if you start bitching about how the bill doesn't cover all the undocumented immigrants.
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Jeronimo Dan
December 12, 2009 11:30 AM
John's almost as good at health care as he is with economics, after all he shut down his presidential campaign to go back to Washington to straight out this mess and we all know how well that turned out.
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Winski
December 12, 2009 12:07 PM
Multiple equations arise out of McSame and McConell's comments...
GOP=Stupid...GOP=LAME...GOP=CAN'T READ....GOP=TANNING SPRAY CAN... GOP=Limberger ... GOP=sister... GOP = DOA.
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ilovebacon
December 12, 2009 2:04 PM
GOP= "Grab, oppress, plunder" (Harry Truman)
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Rich in NJ
December 12, 2009 7:24 PM
Few men have gotten such a free ride for basically failing in life like McCain.
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ilovebacon
December 12, 2009 8:02 PM in reply to Rich in NJ
Remember when McCain promised to be "President Obama's partner"? That was a year ago, wasn't it?
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hollywood
December 12, 2009 9:38 PM in reply to Rich in NJ
Yes few men have gotten such a free ride for basically failing in life like McCain ..... George w Bush comes to mind as another.
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Rich in NJ
December 13, 2009 12:13 AM in reply to hollywood
The difference is that most people know that Bush is a failure. McCain is still fooling most people.
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CranialRectalLoopback
December 12, 2009 9:37 PM
Good. Now let's use Reconciliation for a one-liner: "Medicare for all".
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hollywood
December 12, 2009 9:40 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
YES!
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Langx
December 13, 2009 1:17 AM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
Palin? I'm still waiting for the entire Republican to apologize for Bush. They destroyed our country.
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Langx
December 13, 2009 1:17 AM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
Palin? I'm still waiting for the entire Republican party to apologize for Bush. They destroyed our country.
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Tanjaoui
December 13, 2009 10:31 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
THAT'S what I'm talking about...They have to get the CBO to do an analysis of single payer. A simple score, looking at cost to the Federal gov't. makes it look bad. A CBO analysis, looking at total expense (to the economy: consumers and gov't) will show it saves money big time compared to every other plan. And the public favors it. I called my Sens asking them to support Sanders' Amendment, Senate Amendment 2837, co-sponsored by Sherrod Brown and Roland Burris, replacing the current bill with a single payer, Medicare for All. It could pass if they just decided to debate it. If not: might as well hang for a horse as for a mule. Using reconciliation, I don't know if its chances would be any worse than this bill. Anything that effects the budget using reconciliation sunsets, but I'd like to see Republicans try to take Medicare for All away from the public once it got started. At the very least, they should pass legislation allowing states to try single payer plans (i.e. qualify for an automatic ERISA waiver).
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runfastandwin
December 12, 2009 10:56 PM
"We are continuing to strengthen this bill on the Senate floor, and we're already closer than ever to delivering historic reform to our broken health care system."
Sounds like Senator Reid knows something.
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grtpyrmd
December 13, 2009 10:22 AM
You're done, John. You are Captain Queeg channeling Captain Ahab, and trying to pass yourself off as Captain America.
You allowed W, Rove and Cheney to savage your family in a despicable manner in 2000 in S Carolina. Then you kissed their feet. You were a bad pilot, a pampered party-animal son and grandson of admirals. Yes, you suffered in captivity. But you used a former POW status to lead a corrupt and scandal-ridden public life. Now you are irrelevant, and thrash about. Your choice of Caribou Barbie was cynical, yes, but beyond cynicism, it revealed a stunning lack of judgement. Keep ranting, Senator.
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