AP: Nelson Says New Abortion Compromise Ain't Good Enough

For the life of me, I don't understand why a member of the Democratic Party would filibuster his own party's health care bill. Vote against it on the floor, fine. But preventing your own Senate majority from even holding a vote on it in the first place -- especially when a majority of senators support the bill? Really?

There's no point worrying about killing the bill. Nelson is looking for the poison pill and he's found it.

Well done, Ben. You'll be rewarded handsomely for your obstruction. Gibbs and Axelrod are getting ready to scorch anyone who dares utter an unkind word about you for holding the nation's health care reform hostage, so don't you worry about it.

So much for the "momentum" this site claimed this bill had.

Why not? The Obama Administration gives Lieberscum exactly what he wanted when he threatened to filibuster. Nelson knows the White House is desperate to get a bill now, so is at maximum leverege.

Anybody voting against cloture should be kicked out fo the caucus. I don't care if you vote against the bill, but to threaten to filibuster with your cloture vote is too much. All these folks are worried about getting re-elected? How long do they think they'd last in a Republican Primary?

Third PARTY TIME! Sorry, but I can't stand this anymore. Our elected representatives are K streetwalkers, and religious fanatics. I do not care what their imaginary being whispers in their scriptures. Mark Twain had it right: they will cut your throat if your theology ain't right.

I want Health Insurance for all, but not if it makes me complicit in abortions.
I'd rather not risk my immortal soul for peace of mind or health.
I'm going to die someday, No health insurance in the world is going to change that.
Others may not have faith, but I do and I will NEVER agree to have my tax dollars go to abortions. Period.
If I could settle it with a duel, if I could risk my life to achieve it I would; for there are fates far worse than death.
Start your own abortion fund that you can donate to, but don’t force me to participate.

When laws permitted slavery, they were wrong. President Obama said eloquently, It is time for change. The real change issue is abortion. History shows lofty words of the Constitution, its Amendments and the Supreme Court are all right to say, but one must remember that sometimes they bear no fruit. When laws permitted slavery, they were wrong. When laws permitted child labor, they were wrong. When laws permitted a lack of suffrage to women, they were wrong. When laws allowed domestic violence they were wrong. Each of those wrongs had to be addressed through strong and forceful means. Americans will not stand aside and allow the laws of this land to run rampant over the rights of innocent unborn people. When the holocaust used power to kill innocent Jewish and Slavic people, it was wrong. Abortion is wrong. American people do not want to fund abortion as part of healthcare. It is time to put personal preferences and voting histories aside and vote to prevent abortion funding as part of healthcare reform. Abortion may be legal but it is still wrong.

Doesn't say men aren't stakeholders - but they don't get to make the final choice.

And what Gloria meant is demonstrated that insurance companies cover Viagra, but had to be coerced into covering birth control for women. Or that there is still no effective non-barrier type of birth control for males. Or that the hormone based birth control for women comes with serious side effects STILL, after 50 years. And that the response of extreme Christianity to abortion is based in the Paulist tradition of misogyny (that is a fancy word for sexist.)

Most women who are aborted would, given the option, choose their life.

Most women, if you talk to them, going through an abortion are either desperate or abused. A few may be selfish.

What about the rights of the unborn, innocent women who is being aborted? Who speaks for her?

Keep in mind that the Church makes a distinction between disciplines and doctrines. The disciplines are temporal and used to help the Church deal in the environment it is in; sometimes an environment hostile to woman.
There is an all too often, under-considered, concept of men and woman having their own roles. A young person will want to adopt a role that will help him or her identify with being a man or a woman. Our society needs to teach that Men and Women are equal but not interchangeable. If we don’t do this, there will be no pride of being of one or the other sex. There will be a loss of meaning and purpose and a desire to reflect on other aspects of sexuality and an attempt to give it meaning. This can lead to some strange things and confusion.
A man with pride and proud to be a man would defend his wife and never hurt her. He would identify manhood with fidelity to a spouse. By redefining roles, all bets are off. This is dangerous territory.

Now you prove my point about misogyny. I'll quote Florence Kennedy, "The only two sex linked jobs are sperm donor and wet nurse."

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