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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will schedule a formal Senate roll call vote on the nomination of Erroll Southers to be administrator of the Transportation Security Administration as soon as Congress returns from break.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley told TPMDC that Reid will file a cloture motion as soon as the Senate reconvenes the week of Jan. 19. He said it's a necessary step to overcome Sen. Jim DeMint's hold on the nomination.

"In light of recent incidents TSA deserves to have its leadership in place," Manley said. "It is long past time for Senator DeMint to stop trying to score cheap political points."

Confirmations rarely are subject to roll call votes - several passed the Senate by unanimous consent the day they adjourned.

Democrats are furious that DeMint (R-SC) blocked the confirmation over a question of whether Southers would allow collective bargaining for TSA screeners. They believe that if Democrats had delayed a national security nominee under a Republican president, their party would be excoriated.

Democrats also compared the move to the Republicans blocking funding for troops for political purposes.

As we reported earlier, DeMint blamed Reid for not allowing lawmakers to debate the nomination before adjourning.

Even Republicans who oppose the nomination believe Southers would be confirmed, and sources tell TPMDC he is highly qualified on counterterrorism issues and would have been useful had he been in place before the Christmas terror attempt.

Manley called DeMint "disgraceful."

Southers, nominated in September, passed out of two committees this fall.

A spokeswoman for Sen. Joe Lieberman's Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, which approved the nomination in November, said today that Lieberman believes the hold is "contrary to the public interest."

"The head of TSA is a key player in the government's efforts to safeguard the American people from terrorism," said the committee spokeswoman Leslie Phillips.

DeMint's concern is over the unionization issue, a topic that Southers would not give a clear answer to during his confirmation hearings.

A Senate source told TPMDC that Southers has maintained he is not not prepared to say he'll support or oppose unionization efforts "until he's confirmed, in place and hearing from stakeholders about the issue."

DeMint won't lift his hold, a Senate aide told TPMDC earlier today.

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) told his colleagues Dec. 22 that it was "irresponsible" the Southers nomination was being held.

"Unfortunately, without Chief Southers in the position he has been nominated to, TSA is without the leadership necessary to move forward," Durbin said on the Senate floor. "At the same time Senate Republicans are insisting on expanding the role and responsibility of TSA by requiring guns to be allowed on Amtrak, they block and delay the permanent leadership necessary to implement these new policies."

He added, "In the midst of the heaviest travel period of the year, it is irresponsible that the Senate has left this post unfilled."

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December 29, 2009 12:42 PM   

Good move.
A better move would have been to do it about 6 months ago and then monthly from then on until there was enough votes.
Not just politically, but practically. Good governance is often good politics.
What other nominations need a roll call vote right now?

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December 29, 2009 12:45 PM   

Ok, how on earth would he "have been useful had he been in place before the Christmas terror attempt"? That is beyond absurd. Unless he was flying to Detroit from Amsterdam and was on the GD plane, he is irrelevant. What a freaking joke. What's the term being used? American Terrorism Theater.

These people have got to stop playing politics with terrorism and just pursue and put the bad guys away. Just stop it already.

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December 29, 2009 1:00 PM    in reply to Michael A

It probably wouldn't have made any difference, but for the National Security Party™ that the GOP claims to be, putting politics and party first by leaving leaderless what they claim to care so much about, is shameful.

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December 29, 2009 3:14 PM    in reply to Michael A

How do you know anything about anything? Perhaps he had an idea to put a program in place to review any complaint made by the parent of a suspect. Perhaps he would have inspired an employee to check on activity in Yemen. There are any number of things that might have happened, had he been in his office, that might have prevented this.

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December 29, 2009 3:30 PM    in reply to runfastandwin

Uh, he is supposed to be in charge of TSA, that's it. He is not supposed to be in charge of the CIA or some sort of anti-terrorism task force.

I have another idea. Maybe he would have put in place a requirement for all passengers to strip down and remove their underwear after they remove their shoes because of Reid and dump their water bottles after the fools in England.

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December 29, 2009 5:32 PM    in reply to runfastandwin

Uh, he is supposed to be in charge of TSA, that's it. He is not supposed to be in charge of the CIA or some sort of anti-terrorism task force.

I have another idea. Maybe he would have put in place a requirement for all passengers to strip down and remove their underwear after they remove their shoes because of Reid and dump their water bottles after the fools in England.

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December 29, 2009 5:53 PM    in reply to Michael A

Yep, he's in charge of TSA. The precise agency that was in responsible for the no-fly and watch lists that have become the central issue in the Detroit terror retrospective. So yeah, given that everyone says TSA dropped the ball here, actually having someone in charge of TSA couldn't possibly have made any difference. Anyone who thinks it would have must believe that putting smart, capable people in charge of the government makes it run better. What a bunch of fools...didn't George W. Bush prove that mediocrity works so much better?

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December 29, 2009 3:47 PM    in reply to Michael A

Good luck with that

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December 29, 2009 1:10 PM   

DeMint and Gang always put party before country. Notice how they blame Obama for his negligence as the crew and passengers stopped the Nigerian from blowing up the plane?

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December 29, 2009 4:05 PM    in reply to traitorjoe

No, they don't put party before country. It's just that, being one-party totalitarians at heart, they don't see any difference.

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December 29, 2009 1:17 PM   

I'm glad to see the strong language from DeMint. Perhaps if more senators called each other "disgraceful," stupid ideas of comity that always result in Republicans taking advantage of Democrats would die out.

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December 29, 2009 1:17 PM    in reply to dal20402

Ugh... by "DeMint" I meant Manley, of course... where is the edit feature?

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December 30, 2009 11:52 AM    in reply to dal20402

Good luck with that...

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December 29, 2009 2:08 PM    in reply to dal20402

Comity is hardly a "stupid idea" -- for most of two centuries, it was the grease that made the Senate run smoothly. The death of the idea of comity is the reason that you now need 60 votes even to decide when to break for lunch, and the reason that so many nominations are being blocked or slow-walked.

Comity allowed Senators on different sides of the aisle to work together to craft legislation that both sides could support. Without comity, you get the circus that we saw with health care, and the sorts of outrageous concessions to get the votes for passage that you saw given to Lieberman and Nelson.

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December 29, 2009 2:54 PM    in reply to slb

Comity is what enables the undemocratic rules of the Senate to stay in place. Without hollow comity, Senate reform would become much easier (in addition to the obvious fact that there wouldn't be so much deception and lying in the Senate).

We need to encourage reform that helps our leaders to take honest positions, rather than acquiescing to Beltway conventional wisdom for the sake of "comity" or "civility."

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December 29, 2009 4:07 PM    in reply to dal20402

You're talking past each other. If we still had comity, we wouldn't need to reform the Senate rules. The inability to acknowledge that it's dead is what's keeping some Democrats from doing it.

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December 30, 2009 9:20 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

The question behind a filibuster is when should a minority which feels strongly be able to block the actions of the majority? And how large a proportion of the country's voters should that minority of Senators have to represent?

Clearly, the ability of one Senator to delay matters in secret should go.

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December 30, 2009 11:53 AM    in reply to slb

"the grease that made the Senate run smoothly."

I thought that was corporate campaign contributions?

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December 29, 2009 1:44 PM   

Keel haul that dirtball

Do it for Max Cleland

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December 29, 2009 1:46 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Yes agreed! Why does DeMint hate America?

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December 29, 2009 1:48 PM   

Nobody should play politics with the appointment of the TSA head, and DeMint's behavior is reprehensible. He should just explain his views on the floor of the Senate and state his opposition by voting 'no' on the confirmation --and be done with it. Placing a hold on the nomination does not make anyone safer.
Having said that, there is a point to be made for TSA workers not to unionize: the fear is that by letting TSA workers unionize, they will be impossible to lay off when technology enables their replacement. I don't want tax dollars to go to pay for twenty TSA workers that are doing the work that could be better done by a state-of-the-art wave scanning machine. What's worse, the government is not going to spend millions of dollars buying the new equipment knowing that no savings are possible through layoffs because the unions won't allow the TSA scanner positions to be eliminated. As a result, unionization of TSA workers may well result in a severe slowdown in the adoption of the equipment (which could more effectively and efficiently prevent attacks).
In short: since I help pay for the TSA, I'd rather invest in new machines and get rid of unnecessary workers than allow the workers to unionize and continue paying for all their salaries once their positions have been made obsolete by new technology. In any case, DeMint is even preventing this debate from taking place at all, so shame on him.

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December 29, 2009 2:00 PM    in reply to pittprof

Ask members of the United Autoworkers and United Steelworkers if being unionized helped them avoid being laid off.

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December 29, 2009 2:09 PM    in reply to Pragmatic

Word.

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December 29, 2009 2:30 PM    in reply to Pragmatic

No, the relevant question is whether the big 3 would have behaved any differently by, say, switching to a more automtized, less labor-intensive production had those workers not been unionized. Most likely, the big 3 would have adopted something closer to the Korean model to fight off increased foreign competition, and they would have done that starting back in the 1980s, but the rate at which they could make those changes was slowed down because of the unions. Unions were great before globalization, but after globization they hurt more than they help --and when they help, it's only by delaying the inevitable, which causes bigger problems in the long run.

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December 29, 2009 5:38 PM    in reply to pittprof

"the rate at which they could make those changes was slowed down because of the unions."

And how did the unions slow down the rate of this change, exactly?

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December 29, 2009 2:55 PM    in reply to pittprof

Wait, you're worried that they might walk off the job because they would be replaced by machines? Wouldn't that make the transition to new technology easier?

Union bashing is pretty weak, especially since the flight crew who helped prevent this attempted terrorist attack are unionized. Not to mention the cops and firefighters who ran into the towers on 9/11.

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December 29, 2009 3:01 PM    in reply to Joshua the Teacher

No, you are clearly not understanding me. I'm worried that unionized TSA workers will fight tooth and nail for their jobs even as new technology have rendered them obsolete.

And I'll be the first to recognize the bravery and patriotism of the flight crew, cops and firefighters who have ever worked hard to prevent, or deal with the consequences of, any attack. But to think those people would not have acted the same admirable way had they not been unionized is simply ludicrous.

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December 29, 2009 3:54 PM    in reply to pittprof

No, what's ludicrous is thinking that professionals who bargain for a living wage and decent benefits are going to put our national security at risk to keep their jobs.

And btw, many military contractors aren't unionized, and they've been doing a bang-up job (Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, etc.).

Ultimately, making collective bargaining an issue when discussing national security is completely pointless. As far as I can tell, whether a group has been unionized or not hasn't been related to any attempted or successful terror attacks. Ever.

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December 30, 2009 11:51 AM    in reply to Joshua the Teacher

"And btw, many military contractors aren't unionized, and they've been doing a bang-up job (Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, etc.)."

Careful, Josh, I know this is snark, but some might thing you mean it.

Good point, though, and considering what some employees ('scuse me, contractors) have suffered at the hands of the no-bidders' and their litigation legal loopholes, it might be worth the effort for them to form or join a union, to protect them from these predatory "employers."

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December 29, 2009 2:13 PM   

DeMint's argument is typical dishonest right-wing crap. All their arguments translate to "we won't allow X because X will or could somehow lead to Y and nobody likes Y". We can't allow gay marriage because it'll lead to bestiality. We can't allow legalization of pot because it'll lead to surgeons being on LSD during operations. We can't allow a public option because it'll lead to the destruction of America. (Actually, ALL Republican arguments translate to "X will lead to the destruction of America"...)

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December 29, 2009 2:43 PM    in reply to Clavis

That's a tell-tale sign of a conservative: Conservatives use slippery-slope arguments to defend nearly every one of their positions. I think it reveals their psychology: they use slippery-slope arguments because in their minds there is nothing more terrifying than the prospect that things could ever actually (gasp!) change!

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December 29, 2009 4:02 PM   

Democrats are furious that DeMint (R-SC) blocked the confirmation over a question of whether Southers would allow collective bargaining for TSA screeners. They believe that if Democrats had delayed a national security nominee under a Republican president, their party would be excoriated.

Yea, except the Democrats never got on CNN and MSNBC excoriating DeMint for this hold until the attempted Christmas attack. The Democrats need to get much, much better and more vocal about calling out nonsense like this, the hold on Dawn Johnsen, etc. Unless and until they do they will continue to face obstruction. Shoot, if Harry Reid could've long ago called a cloture vote on the nomination, he should have, just as he should on any other nominee that has a hold from a solitary Senator on his or her nomination.

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December 30, 2009 9:55 AM   

What "cheap political points" is DeMint scoring? And with whom?

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December 30, 2009 11:46 AM    in reply to wishIwuz2

DUH!

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December 30, 2009 1:19 PM   

Republican hypocrisy is always entertaining:

http://bit.ly/85PdvK

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June 6, 2010 10:44 PM   

Comity is hardly a "stupid idea" -- for most of two centuries, it was the grease that made the Senate run smoothly. The death of the idea of comity is the reason that you now need 60 votes even to decide when to break for lunch, and the reason that so many nominations are being blocked or slow-walked.

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