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Neither rain, nor sleet nor snow could keep a crowd of about 500 from Sarah Palin in Northern Virgina this afternoon. Perhaps due to the horrible weather conditions (bitterly cold with the first snowfall of the season) or perhaps due to the fact that this was the part of Virginia famously dubbed "fake" by Nancy Pfotenhauer last year, the crowd for Palin's booksigning at a BJ's Wholesale in Fairfax didn't resemble that of earlier stops on Palin's book tour in either size or sheer enthusiasm.
Which is not to say Palin didn't get a warm welcome. Conservative Virginians in the crowd were excited to see the Republican rockstar a month after they turned the state red again in statewide elections.
"The tables have turned," one said when asked if he thought Palin would win a 2012 rematch with President Obama in Virginia. "If she chooses to run, this is Sarah country now."
It certainly didn't feel like the Fairfax County Virginia Democrats have come to know as the blue heart of a purple state. Four anti-Palin protestors were there, shunned to a "free speech zone" about 400 yards from the crowd waiting to meet Palin outside BJ's Wholesale. Two were Trig doubters, showing off what they said was evidence that Palin isn't the birth mother of the youngest member of the Palin clan. There was a decided tea partyesque vibe to their conspiracy rhetoric. "Why is the media afraid to report this story?" one asked. Had they been talking about ACORN, they would have been right at home on the national mall last 9/12.
The other two protestors were just generally upset by the whole proceeding unfolding around them. They said they thought they had dealt with her last year and didn't like having to do it again. "Virginia voted to send Sarah back to Alaska," one said. "I wanted to make sure she got that message when she came out here today." Neither pair could figure out what to do with Palin. They called her "dangerous" and claimed she appealed to the ugliest side of American conservatism. But they acknowledged her star power and seemingly limitless appeal to her base. They thought Palin was more than just a passing fad, but they couldn't see a world in which Democrats could reach out to the voters Palin energizes.
As for the folks on line for the book signing, they knew exactly what to do with Palin. "She's got my vote," was a familiar refrain. But Palin was just one of many fantasy presidential tickets on the minds of the crowd, clearly still giddy from Gov.-elect Bob McDonnell's sweeping win a month ago. Rep. Mike Pence (IN), Rudy Giuliani and Sen. Jim DeMint (SC) were all on the shortlist. Exuberance was in abundance. Numerous people spoke of how Virginia was waking up to the "lies" Obama had spun on the campaign trail and said that the McDonnell victory proved things were "getting back to normal" in the state.
"We're not purple anymore," one man in a sweatshirt that parodied Obama's 2008 campaign logo and "Nope: Keep The Change" said. "[Virginia] is red again."
Northern Virginia is unique in that many of the people that live there go to work for the federal government the day after they vote. The direct contact with the sausage making machinery means there's a certain detachment from the celebrity of politics that manifested itself in the crowd at BJ's. They felt Palin was a driving force in a conservative renaissance they say is just around the corner. The enthusiasm was less about Palin herself, surprisingly, than it was the shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later style of politics Palin represents.
"I just want to thank her," one young woman with a group of recent James Madison University graduates said when asked what she would do when she met Palin face to face. "I just want to wish her well after all she's done for us [conservatives]. I'm not here to worship her."
Late Update: Other news outlets reported larger crowds than my estimate. It should be noted that no reporters, other than photographers or videographers, were not allowed inside the large section of the BJ's where Palin was signing books. All my reporting for this story was conducted in the parking lot outside the event.
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CT Voter
December 5, 2009 2:03 PM
The mind reels.
All she's done for conservatives? Hello? McDonnell didn't run as a conservative. He tried to camouflage is conservatism. This is good, according to conservatives?
And Rudy Giuliani is a favored candidate? Hello? Are they just willing to ignore his moderate position on social issues? Or worse, if he flip-flops, will they think that's ok?
Thank you Evan for being out there in the crappy weather and getting such interesting comments.
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ilovebacon
December 5, 2009 4:18 PM in reply to CT Voter
Rudy will NEVER get anywhere. Pleeeeease. We hate him in the NYC area. Republicans hate him, too. It's why he did so poorly in the primaries. He's still trying to milk the teat of 9/11, but the nipple's chaffed. Time for Rudy to go cry in his Sangria.
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rex
August 17, 2010 7:50 AM in reply to ilovebacon
yeahBest Buy ISA
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JNagarya
December 6, 2009 3:55 AM in reply to CT Voter
"McDonnell didn't run as a conservative. He tried to camouflage is conservatism. This is good, according to conservatives?"
Of course. Stealth, lie, deceit -- they're all for any or all because all that matters is triumphing over truth and reality.
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sunnysteve
December 5, 2009 2:25 PM
BJ's Wholesale? That would draw a crowd in most any kind of weather.
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CityGuy
December 5, 2009 3:26 PM in reply to sunnysteve
Agreed. But maybe they thought that Sarah would be giving them. Explains the smaller than hoped-for turnout.
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ilovebacon
December 5, 2009 4:11 PM in reply to CityGuy
Hahaha.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
December 5, 2009 6:32 PM in reply to CityGuy
Were they teabaggers?
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JNagarya
December 7, 2009 3:40 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Was Palin red-faced?
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kaylaspop
December 5, 2009 3:55 PM in reply to sunnysteve
How 'bout BJs at cost?
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tiowally
December 5, 2009 4:52 PM in reply to sunnysteve
Since she's no longer in Minnesota I presume there is no prohibition against asking: ¿Ella mordaza y escupir o tragar?
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robertecrump
December 5, 2009 2:34 PM
The editors blog title has to be in the top ten all-time in snark. Thanks for that this morning.
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Xantar
December 5, 2009 2:51 PM
In what world has Virginia turned red? Yeah, a Republican was elected Governor. It still has two Democratic senators and six out of the eleven representatives are also Democrats. The state is purple, but I guess that's too far back for Palinites to remember.
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JEP07
December 5, 2009 2:58 PM
"There was a decided tea partyesque vibe to their conspiracy rhetoric. "Why is the media afraid to report this story?" one asked. Had they been talking about ACORN, they would have been right at home on the national mall last 9/12."
A 'bagger backlash?
Sounds like a plan...
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asdf
December 5, 2009 3:23 PM
She was dressed in faux Che Guevara garb today. Probably the creepiest she has ever been seen. Her followers don't do subtlety.
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pol
December 5, 2009 3:55 PM in reply to asdf
Are you kidding? Really?
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asdf
December 5, 2009 5:44 PM in reply to pol
It's true.
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JNagarya
December 6, 2009 3:58 AM in reply to asdf
So she's a closet leftist-Commie!
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asdf
December 5, 2009 9:21 PM in reply to pol
Here she is in all her
Revolutionary Glory.
Credit to Bree Palin
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CityGuy
December 6, 2009 5:05 PM in reply to asdf
Absurd! Next you'll claim that she has joined the Symbionese Liberation Army. It's just something that "Red Sarah" might do after all.
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robertecrump
December 5, 2009 3:50 PM
"I just want to thank her," one young woman with a group of recent James Madison University graduates said when asked what she would do when she met Palin face to face. "I just want to wish her well after all she's done for us [conservatives]
On behalf of the reality based opposition I would like to thank her as well. We could only be so fortunate to face her in 2012.
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the true enduring majority
December 5, 2009 3:59 PM
I don't know which is worse.
That Sarah Palin is a complete and utter hypocrite and a fake, cynically peddling an image of being a "real 'murikan" (wink!) ie evangelical, church going, pro-life, goes hunting, nuclear family, white, rural etc. to a fanbase of roughly 20% of this country that eats it right up; or that 20% of our country fanatically believes in the values she represents.
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Quintin Jordon
December 5, 2009 4:08 PM
Are we still paying attention to Palin? Must be, I am commenting on paying attention to Palin.
The Democratic Party can only wish that she runs in 2012; however, she still has to make it past the Republican Primary. I can hardly wait to see that happening.
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CVille Dem
December 5, 2009 5:10 PM in reply to Quintin Jordon
Can you get rich running for President? If yes, she'll do it. If no, she won't.
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bluesplashy
December 5, 2009 9:16 PM in reply to CVille Dem
You said it. She'll tell the GOP they have to pay her to run and I hope they do.
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Julia Grey
December 6, 2009 9:57 AM in reply to CVille Dem
Can you get rich running for President? If yes, she'll do it. If no, she won't.
BIN. GO.
It's all about the money for Sarah.
No, wait, it's all about the money and the admiration. She's hungry for both.
When she has to live within the means and rules of political donations and she starts getting criticized for real, she'll quit. Guar. An. Teed.
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FebM
December 5, 2009 4:10 PM
Meanwhile.....
The three-month review that led to the escalate-then-exit strategy is a case study in decision making in the Obama White House — intense, methodical, rigorous, earnest and at times deeply frustrating for nearly all involved.
Like congress, they are not used to a president who demands nothing short of very serious thought through proposals.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/asia/06reconstruct.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&src=twt&twt=nytimes
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ilovebacon
December 5, 2009 4:16 PM
Sarah + Levi = Trig
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CT Voter
December 6, 2009 1:03 PM in reply to ilovebacon
"she knows what I got on her"
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roxsteady
December 5, 2009 4:32 PM
Exactly what has she done for them? Proven that no only is she clueless when it comes to birth control but, so is her daughter. I suspect that the others will soon be in estace.
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roxsteady
December 5, 2009 4:37 PM
Here's what she and her party have done for them. According to an article on the dailykos by Jed Lewison, since 1959 job growth under Republicans is 5.4% while under Democrats it's 11.7% I also read an article yesterday that stated, at the end of Clinton's term there were 38 million uninsured and by the end of Bush last year it rose to 46 million. This should tell Virginians and everyone else all they need to know about the 2 partys.
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BeeClone
December 5, 2009 11:50 PM in reply to roxsteady
what's wrong with you cons don't care about America or Americans.
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asdf
December 6, 2009 8:00 AM in reply to roxsteady
We'll need a peace dividend to match the Clinton record. It doesn't look like that's in the cards.
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roxsteady
December 5, 2009 4:41 PM
Or is it called estress when animals are ready to mate? I think I've been watching too much Animal Planet.
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ilovebacon
December 5, 2009 4:46 PM
have you seen republican women?? it's no wonder they're all over her. most conservative women look like inebriated goats.
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virginiavoter4
December 5, 2009 4:52 PM
I was there at the protest. Lots of out of town license plates...Sarah is the Grateful Dead of the Teabag fringe. Many vans with "Warning unsocialized home schoolers on board" and other conservative pearls of wisdom.
Protesters were not allowed anywhere near Sarah...so free speech only applies to those who agree with her, you betcha!
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cwnidog
December 5, 2009 5:12 PM in reply to virginiavoter4
Much as I hate to point it out, BJ's is private property. As such, they don't have to allow any speech that they don't want to allow. And given the size of some of those places, the nearest public space could easily be 400 yards from the door.
Is it chickenshit? Of course it is, but they're well within their rights to be chickenshit.
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JNagarya
December 6, 2009 4:03 AM in reply to cwnidog
Are you suggesting that Palin had nothing to do with it as concerns the groundrules for her appearing?
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cwnidog
December 7, 2009 11:11 AM in reply to JNagarya
No, just saying that, in this case, she gets to make the rules. Please don't mistake that for approval of the rules she makes.
I agree that she and her staff are not particularly interested in hearing anyone's opinion that might run counter to hers. So, she'll get to see all the adoring throngs and then wonder why she goes nowhere in 2012.
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JNagarya
December 7, 2009 4:48 PM in reply to cwnidog
That's about three years from now. I suspect her adoring throngs of short attention spans will get bored and distracted by some other circus side show before then. So long as it emits the intoxicating odors of snakeoil.
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bluesplashy
December 5, 2009 9:38 PM in reply to virginiavoter4
"Lots of out of town license plates." Granted the weather is awful around here and has been since early in the morning but 500 is small for all the hollering in MSM about her rabid fans taking over the party and her running for president, and I mean small. Reminds me of the great PUMA farce of recent memory. Is she on the other side of the peak?
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jdb316
December 5, 2009 5:00 PM
Unless Sarah Palin learns how to be like Ronald Reagan and espouse conservative principles in a unifying, less in-your-face way, the Dems don't have to worry about her in 2012 or any other year. She'll win news cycles and get headlines, but she won't win nearly enough votes, which is all that matters in the end.
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asdf
December 6, 2009 8:02 AM in reply to jdb316
Unless there is a strong third party candidate. Remember Bush almost won twice, they only have to come close to claim office.
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auntialias
December 5, 2009 5:02 PM
I heard that the authors of the Sarah Palin parody Coloring and Activity book -- Going Rouge -- see http://www.goingrouge.net/ offered to do a book signing in northern Virginia nearby, but the bookstore representative they spoke with (from a major chain) after first liking the idea, checked w/ a supervisor, whose response was all corporate-safe and controversy avoidant. The bookstore turned down the offer of having a Sarah Palin book event of their own.... minus Sarah Palin. Hooray for capitalism. (You'd think that the 'alt.booksigning' would result in sales, right? right?)
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GayIthacan
December 5, 2009 5:02 PM
Sarah Palin.......
The woman who thinks 'misnomer' is a beauty pageant contestant from Alaska's northernmost 'city'.
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tiowally
December 5, 2009 5:10 PM in reply to GayIthacan
Uh ... Barrow is Alaska's northernmost city.
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cwnidog
December 5, 2009 5:14 PM in reply to tiowally
So she'd be wrong on both counts.
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totallynext
December 6, 2009 12:30 PM in reply to GayIthacan
Ha!
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jo3wang
December 5, 2009 5:15 PM
From Teabaggers to BJs, oh my.
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Michael A
December 5, 2009 5:40 PM
What have "conservatives" done at all? Anything? Other than f*ck the country up and get us into two intractible wars that will never end, I can't think of one positive f'n thing that these bozos have done, nothing.
People really are stupid. I guess we can thank the b-movie actor for dumbing down the population by trying to destroy education. There is no other explanation. Thanks, but no thanks.
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Jim Pharo
December 5, 2009 6:04 PM
If Palin is revealed as having an affair with Tiger Woods, i will double-don't care.
The danger has nothing to do with Palin herself; she will vanish under five seconds of scrutiny. the worrisome thing is the overt mobilization of a destructive, hateful mob. If people think it "can't happen here," there could be no more compelling rebuke than the battles fought near that BJ's.
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inokeah
December 5, 2009 6:29 PM
It is refreashing to see how much hate can fit in a simple mind.
Five hundred in line to spend money and meet the author and four to protest, what? the birth of a boy who will get more love than most of the bloggers on this page ever got, I would guess.
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commie atheist
December 5, 2009 10:54 PM in reply to inokeah
And who has as much awareness in his malformed brain as you do.
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JNagarya
December 6, 2009 4:10 AM in reply to inokeah
Genius is rare.
The four are the elitists. The 500 are the average dupes.
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Kuyleh
December 6, 2009 5:06 PM in reply to inokeah
You really shouldn't be attempting to insult people by calling them simple minded. You can't speak basic English, or spell basic words such as "refreshing." If you're going to insist on continuing harassing us, at least get a spell checker.
As to love...You probably don't even know the meaning of the word. So don't even try.
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Sailormarlowe
December 5, 2009 6:32 PM
Bold, brilliant, beautiful best-selling author Sarah Palin is probably the most provocative political power player on the planet.
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FebM
December 5, 2009 7:26 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Huh!?
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rynato
December 5, 2009 7:36 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Please tell me you are just being snarky.
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JNagarya
December 6, 2009 4:12 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
I hate alliteration.
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Jonathan Evans
December 5, 2009 8:33 PM
It is very cold in space... between Palin's ears.
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Leftflank
December 5, 2009 9:27 PM
Maverick, Rogue, Golddigger, Quitter, Twiterrer, Whatever.
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HuffPost Sucks
December 5, 2009 10:53 PM
We've known or heard about one of them people who are very ambitious but the only thing they're good at is leapfrogging their careers without paying their dues. Sarah Palin is the poster girl for that kind of person.
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ilovebacon
December 6, 2009 12:20 AM
Sarah + Levi = Trig
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ilovebacon
December 6, 2009 12:22 AM
With all these darn Sarah stories, TPM is getting too similar to Huffington Post. Agree?
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asdf
December 6, 2009 8:05 AM in reply to ilovebacon
There can't be too many stories about the next US president.
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ilovebacon
December 6, 2009 9:54 AM in reply to asdf
Next US president will be Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
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opghost
December 6, 2009 1:04 AM
Wow! Liberals are even stupider than they look! Your senseless remarks don't even warrant explanations. You're too stupid to understand the truth anyway.
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JNagarya
December 6, 2009 4:14 AM in reply to opghost
In view of the fact that Sarah and her fans reject truth, it isn't even a concern to them, let alone identifiable.
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OhioMan
December 6, 2009 5:03 AM in reply to opghost
A liberal, for example, would never be able to write a penetrating, insightful comment like yours. More conservative brilliance on display. You guys are great!
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asdf
December 6, 2009 7:58 AM in reply to opghost
Tell us the truth anyway, you can show off for your friends.
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Kuyleh
December 6, 2009 5:08 PM in reply to opghost
Says someone from the party that runs pissing themselves at the thought of such.
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mcjam
December 6, 2009 7:25 PM in reply to opghost
Project much?
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Sailormarlowe
December 6, 2009 6:03 AM
Sarah Palin is the pioneer princess, the golden girl of the great Northwest, the Alaskan Aphrodite, the American Athena, and the next Commander-in-Chief of U.S. military forces. All this, in addition to being a gorgeous megastar and best-selling author.
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Stroszek
December 6, 2009 7:27 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Creepy!
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ilovebacon
December 6, 2009 9:58 AM in reply to Stroszek
He's just trying to raise our blood pressure. Probably a 15 y/o checker player.
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CVille Dem
December 6, 2009 10:00 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Sarah Palin is a petty, pouty, piggish prima donna. She is a selfish, smiling, stupid, smug, snippet; incapable of shame.
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AJM
December 6, 2009 10:21 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
A little reality check: Alaska is civilized as Sarah herself would be the first to tell you so scratch pioneer; golden girl I'll grant you -- she's raking it in; Aphrodite -- are you sure? Aphrodite is believed to be a virgin birth but slept around like mad later, and in Greek mythology Athena was, in essence, the prototype of the contemporary "career woman" and wise and kind -- not someone mis-raising her kids and you are proposing as Commander in Chief someone who could not navigate her way through an interview with Katie Couric; megastar? yes, but Brittany Spears is probably brighter and the best selling author is Palin's ghostwriter, Lynn Vincent.
So: don't you think that the idea of having a Golden Girl as President is getting a bit old?
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Mike Licht
December 6, 2009 9:45 AM
Sarah Palin's bus tour is really taking off.
See:
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/palin-just-plane-folks/
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ilovebacon
December 6, 2009 10:00 AM
No doubt, Republicans are already starting to groom Trig for presidency.
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NobleCommentDecider
December 6, 2009 1:54 PM
ITS ALL ABOUT SARAH, HER ROGUENESS, HER LIFE, HER BANK ACCOUNT ....and leave the cameras and cell phones in your car, photo's available only through Sarah's down home real American website at $15.99 for a 5x7 print.
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Tim Fuller
December 6, 2009 3:28 PM
If Sarah would just show the birth certificate instead of lying about already having done so, this would go away. The fact that it hasn't says volumes.
Enjoy.
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fangorn1
December 6, 2009 4:54 PM
I don't think she could win an election in Alska.
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fangorn1
December 6, 2009 4:55 PM
Alaska
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L0ngT0m
December 7, 2009 8:28 AM
Wow. She has fans that are "James Madison University graduates?"
Let's all remember what Reagan and Bush taught us: Nobody's too stupid to become President. Palin is odds-on to be nominated. Can she win? It's impossible to underestimate the judgment of the American voter.
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Middle Road
December 7, 2009 8:48 AM
"the crowd for Palin's booksigning at a BJ's Wholesale in Fairfax didn't resemble that of earlier stops on Palin's book tour in either size or sheer enthusiasm."
No problem. I am sure Fox has footage of larger audiences.
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JNagarya
December 7, 2009 4:50 PM in reply to Middle Road
The "Wasington Post" headlined the appearance with "thousands" showing up to drool.
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sean
December 7, 2009 9:20 AM
The Palin look-a-like linked above was dressed better than Miz. Sarah...
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nova voter
December 7, 2009 9:53 AM
this is NOT the part of northern virginia to which pfotenhauer was referring, nor is it the "blue heart" of virginia, as you refer to it. here's the congressional district in which BJ's is located:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia%27s_10th_congressional_district
anyway, the joke's probably been made, but who would have guessed that a bunch of teabaggers would flock to a BJ's?
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nova voter
December 7, 2009 10:00 AM in reply to nova voter
fyi, here is joe mccain's "communist country," and the area to which pfotenhauer was referring:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia's_8th_congressional_district
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hologram5
December 7, 2009 11:32 AM
Virginia Palin Fans.
That is just amazing to me. There are actually people that are fans of hers? Are they stoned? Are they stupid? Inquiring minds want to know. She is the most ignorant person ever to run for VPOTUS. I am just at a loss of words for this. Stupidity at its finest.
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fangorn1
December 7, 2009 2:58 PM
Alaska
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fangorn1
December 7, 2009 2:58 PM
I don't think she could win an election in Alska.
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Tres
December 7, 2009 3:24 PM
I'm so torn. The cynical/calculating part of me wants her to keep on truckin' right thru the 2012 presidential nomination process (c'mon Sarah!) which I tend to think would ensure yet another wholesale defeat for the GOP especially if she herself gets the nomination (can you imagine an Obama/Palin debate? C'mon Sarah!) But there's the other part of me that thinks I'll have to poke both my eardrums out with a Bic disposable ball-point if I have to hear even another second of her incomprehensible blather.
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abrill
July 8, 2010 8:02 AM
I just want to thank her," one young woman with a group of recent James Madison University graduates said when asked what she would do when she met Palin face to face. "I just want to wish her well after all she's done for us [conservatives]. I'm not here to worship her."
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rex
August 17, 2010 7:46 AM
Yes i agree with thisBest Buy ISA
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