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Seven-Field Republican Primary In VA-05 Could Yield Another NY-23-Style GOP War

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The cry of "RINO" in Virginia's fifth Congressional district is starting to sound a bit familiar as Republicans have opted for a primary election to choose their nominee to challenge freshman Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA).

Tea party activists in the district don't think the favored candidate Robert Hurt, a state senator from rural Chatham, is conservative enough.

The June primary is an interesting development in the VA-05 district, which is the top target for Congressional Republicans who held it until last year.

There are seven candidates and Democrats see a potential for a NY-23 repeat, with an independent candidate gaining steam if Hurt picks up the nomination.

Fifth District Republican Party Chairman Tucker Watkins tells TPMDC in an interview that it is "absolutely not" similar to what happened in upstate New York (where GOP infighting ultimately shifted the longtime Republican seat to a Democrat).

Watkins said there are more candidates vying for the seat than have announced, adding: "Nine candidates is certainly not a New York 23. and Virginia is not New York."

Watkins defended the primary decision as the "most wide open process you can have" and said the NY-23 Republicans would have never nominated moderate Dede Scozzafava if they'd had a primary.

But the grassroots might not be on board.

Hurt was one of 17 House Republicans who in 2004 joined Democrats to pass a $1.4 billion tax increase to balance the state's budget under then-Gov. Mark Warner.

That year, Grover Norquist put Hurt's mug shot on a Wild West-style "Most Wanted" poster and promised there would be consequences for the tax-raising Republicans.

But actually, Hurt went on to win the race to replace retiring state Sen. Charles Hawkins, another moderate Republican who voted for higher taxes.

The tax vote is the biggest issue conservatives are raising as they suggest national Republicans are pushing the local party to back Hurt.

"Robert Hurt is no Scozzafava," Watkins told TPMDC. "That's a popular thing for his opponents to say but Robert is not that person."

The Lynchburg News & Advance reported on conservative frustration following this weekend's vote to hold a primary:

Several activists in the conservative Tea Party movement, who had held up signs that read "Convention" during the meeting, walked out grumbling. Some of the activists vowed they wouldn't support a Republican primary winner.

"The secret ballot bothered me the most," said Bill Hay, a Tea Party organizer from Greene County. Republicans talk about the need to be fiscally conservative, Hay said. But holding a primary will cost local governments in the Charlottesville-to-Danville 5th District hundreds of thousands of dollars in election expenses, Hay said.

Mark Lloyd, the new leader of Lynchburg-area Tea Party activists, said the choice of a primary left him "incredibly disappointed that the Republican Party would not listen" to the group.

But Lloyd vowed to continue the Tea Party's efforts to organize three debates for all even candidates. The first debate is to be held in Albemarle County in January, and the group plans to hold other debates in Lynchburg and Danville, Lloyd said.

All seven candidates have told the Tea Party organizers they will participate in the debates, Lloyd said. Verga, Ferrin and Hurt all said Saturday they had generally agreed to be in those debates.

Brad Rees, who in October dropped his candidacy for the Republican nomination and switched to the Constitution Party, said Saturday he still plans to run, although he could potentially support four of the Republican contenders if one of them is nominated.

"They have just chosen the best way to elect a RINO to that seat," Rees said, using an acronym for "Republican In Name Only" that originated with the Republican Party's most conservative members.

Watkins said Perriello has voted against wishes of his district and the Republicans are eager to unseat him.

Late Update: NRCC Spokesman Andy Sere offers a comment:

"The NRCC has not made an endorsement in Virginia's 5th District. We welcome the opportunity to work with anyone and everyone focused on defeating Tom Perriello. Now that local Republican unit chairs have chosen a method of nomination, we look forward to supporting whomever local Republican primary voters choose as their nominee."

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December 14, 2009 3:33 PM   

Fifth District Republican Party Chairman Tucker Watkins tells TPMDC in an interview that it is "absolutely not" similar to what happened in upstate New York ... "Nine candidates is certainly not a New York 23. and Virginia is not New York."

Watkins defended the primary decision as the "most wide open process you can have" and said the NY-23 Republicans would have never nominated moderate Dede Scozzafava if they'd had a primary.

This guy seems clueless to what the Democrats meant when they said it was another NY-23 situation. He thinks the Dems were being critical of the candidate selection process the GOP County Chairman in NY (Watkins' peers, btw) followed in selecting Scozzafava. The Dems are hoping for a repeat of the GOP/Conservative infighting and division that led to the Dem in NY-23 getting the plurality of the vote and winning the seat.

Maybe Watkins thinks that if there is a wide-open primary, everyone will be happy with the results and Conservatives won't bolt if Hurt is the GOP nominee. If any lesson is to be learned, it that the TeaBaggers have no loyalty tot eh GOP and will support a Conservative third party candidate if the GOP candidate doesn't meet their purity standards.

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December 14, 2009 3:57 PM   

Did I read that right? That the teabaggers have publicly stated that they won't support the winner of the primary unless it's one of "their" candidates? Are they unclear on what "democracy" involves?

Meanwhile, on the linked "5th District" blog, you've got a delightful stew of right-wing crazy with a heavy dose of ultra-paranoid conspiracy theory. Apparently, the primary is actually part of a secret plan involving "backroom deals" to pick a candidate that the teabaggers don't like.

I'm unclear as to why the teabag crowd is so afraid of elections - if there are *actually* millions and millions of them, like they hear every day on Glenn Beck and co., what's to worry about?


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December 14, 2009 4:01 PM   

I’d say the Republicans must be having regrets now about their little creature.
When it was first midwifed by FOX (lol) News, the Republican hierarchy all had a chuckle as they played to their creatures simplistic sentimental ignorance.
Why?
Because it’s obvious that the average Teabagger has the same intellectual depth as Sarah Palin which, in the eyes of the Republican Party, made them all “useful idiots” for the Right.
Oh but now, now their creature has become self-aware, and it now wants, wants, wants with no clue as to what it actually wants, but by god it will have what it wants even if it doesn’t know what want is wanted.
And the amusing thing about it all is that the Republicans did this to themselves…no one else did this…it’s…so…how to describe it…entertaining I just am amazed that I get to watch this unfolding epic disaster…for free!

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December 14, 2009 4:30 PM    in reply to sheerahkahn

Funny. There were quite a few Dems at the TEA parties. The leftist rags never seem to mention that. The creature is morphing into something all right.

It's morphing into independence.

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December 14, 2009 5:07 PM    in reply to Silence

DINOs. (lol) The left wants to prosper in a realistic way, while the right wants to cannibalize for sacred (unreasonable) beliefs. Teabaggers are denialists, and would let the country implode for blind indulgence.

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December 14, 2009 5:30 PM    in reply to Silence

Funny, I have never seen a single Democrat at a teabgger party. Perhaps you made it up?

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December 14, 2009 6:07 PM    in reply to runfastandwin

How many have you attended?

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December 14, 2009 6:56 PM    in reply to Silence

I'm going to bet that Silence is including the LaRoucheite whackos who have been promoting the "Obama=Hitler" posters under "Democrats", because occasionally they try to run in Democratic primaries.

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December 14, 2009 7:03 PM    in reply to midnight rambler

You folks claim to be experts on TEA parties. Come on now, how many have you attended?

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December 15, 2009 8:42 AM    in reply to Silence

Three. And clearly, you think that makes me an adherent of the teabagger nonsense. It's sort of like how the Scientologists claim you're a member if you've ever bought one of their books or taken one of their "courses."

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December 15, 2009 8:41 AM    in reply to Silence

Sure there were. And we're supposed to buy that all on your say-so. (eyeroll)

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December 14, 2009 7:56 PM    in reply to sheerahkahn

Yes, if there is one good thing borne out of this epic mess we're in, is the continuing saga of Republican incompetence and stupidity. May they all fall off the proverbial political cliff.

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December 14, 2009 4:52 PM   

They've created a monster, now they are dealing with the consequences. Seems like the natives are too restless to talk sense. Yayyyyyyy!

The GOP is turning into a regional party that is old, white and poorly educated. Hoisted by their own petard.

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December 14, 2009 6:32 PM   

The Tea Party: More freedom, less... democracy?

"Mark Lloyd, the new leader of Lynchburg-area Tea Party activists, said the choice of a primary left him 'incredibly disappointed that the Republican Party would not listen' to the group."

Since when did constitutionalism mean that only one constituency counted? The Tea Party: upholding original American values, like voting rights for white men only.

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December 14, 2009 8:03 PM    in reply to Southern Man

What I can't figure out is how TeaBaggers are both eager and completely willing to sacrifice every last personal freedom for the sake of some phony "security" against unspecified terrorist threats, and they're also staunch defenders of freedom. How do you defend freedom when you're so quick to sacrifice it at the altar of fear?

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December 14, 2009 10:30 PM   

"We welcome the opportunity to work with anyone and everyone focused on defeating Tom Perriello."

Including "Birthers", 9-11 conspiracy theorists, and overly caffeinated tea drinkers.


"But holding a primary will cost local governments in the Charlottesville-to-Danville 5th District hundreds of thousands of dollars in election expenses, Hay said."

But these same hyperventilated lunatics are willing to spend millions on referendums to overturn gay marriage.

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