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Rep. Vic Snyder (D-AR) has announced that he is retiring from the House.

This could very well be a tough one for Democrats to hold on to. Snyder was first elected in 1996, and has not had a tough re-election fight since his initial 52%-48% win, but his district has swung significantly to the Republicans underneath him. It voted 54%-44% for John McCain in 2008, and 51%-48% for George W. Bush before that -- part of the Southern belt of districts that went against the national trend, swinging further Republican in 2008.

A SurveyUSA/Firedoglake poll released yesterday showed Snyder losing re-election to Republican candidate Tim Griffin, who had a brief and controversial tenure as a U.S. Attorney in 2007 during the U.S. Attorney firing scandal.

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January 15, 2010 5:50 PM   

While I'm no fan of Snyder he certainly would be better than Griffin.

I wonder what the numbers would look like next fall if Obama starts a populist movement and continues it all summer.

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January 15, 2010 6:01 PM    in reply to kman23

Since he cannot lie to all people all the time, Obama cannot start any populist movement - unless you count the Wall Street bankers and the various corporations (pharma, health insurance, etc.) for which Obama schills...

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January 15, 2010 6:24 PM    in reply to tytester

Hahahahaha!

Does that zinger come with some Magnesium Citrate? 'cause you're full of shit!

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January 15, 2010 6:30 PM    in reply to ondioline

I don't know what the zinger comes with - you tell me! Because it's you in my avatar, buddy...

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January 15, 2010 6:28 PM    in reply to kman23

The numbers would look a whole lot better. I sure hope we find out.

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January 15, 2010 6:28 PM   

Tim Griffin is BFF's with Politico's Jonathan Martin
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/12/griffin/index.html

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January 15, 2010 7:43 PM   

So the good people of Arkansas would like to hand the power of government over to one of the most scummy dishonest pieces of shit Karl Rove ever shat out? Well more power to them! This country, and especially it's redneck backwater, is going down the toilet so fast it makes your head spin watching. Fucking stupid rednecks! It is time the wealthy large Blue states cut these morons off all the federal dollars they suck out of us. I propose a law that states do not receive one single dollar more in federal aid than they pay in. Starve the beast as it were.

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January 15, 2010 9:42 PM    in reply to hollywood

Well, thanks, hollywood, for sending us to the city dump before we even screw up--which we might not--and elect Tim Griffin.

And thanks for confusing the entire state--three out of four representatives and both senators at least nominally Democrats (granted, in some cases not much more) in a southern state--with the second district.

You need to follow that link to the Arkansas Times and look there for--oh, hell, I'll put it here myself--this story of Republican thuggery. That's what we're up against here. I don't expect you to empathize--though it'd be nice if you did--but you might consider S'ingTFU.

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January 16, 2010 4:14 AM    in reply to adamsj

I do deeply sympathize with progressive people living in backward areas of the country. I was well aware growing up in Wisconsin of the difference between liberal Madison and rednecks up in the woods. My personal safety depended on knowing how conservative the culture becomes around my state. I am still absolutely convinced that the only hope for the survival of any real Democracy in America is if the over representation of small redneck states in the US Senate is balanced out more in favor of the progressive population centers ...... MORE DEMOCRATIC! The new 60 vote supermajority rules make it just essential to function and move into the future. How can we cope with global warming giving Wyoming veto power over California? How the hell do we solve any problems at all with Oklahoma canceling out New York? It is just crazy and it has to end. I seriously propose that states take no more than they give to the federal government and end the flow of billions of dollars that pump them up and tear us all down. California wouldn't have a budget problem if we didn't have to support all the small redneck states like Alaska, Alabama, Idaho, etc...... Fuck them! I want to live in a civilized country!

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January 16, 2010 2:25 PM    in reply to hollywood

If you want a civilized country, start by not punishing the poor of Arkansas ('cause trust me, bond daddies, wal-martians, and the court of the chicken king won't feel a thing) because they live in a state whose politics they can't control.

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January 16, 2010 9:19 PM    in reply to adamsj

Well, is that a cop out if ever I saw one.

They can certainly control who represents them in the next Congress, they can decide not to vote for Tim Griffin.

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January 16, 2010 10:33 PM    in reply to dtOZONE

One-fourth of the state can vote against Griffin. The other three-quarters cannot. The worst of Arkansas' poverty is split between the first and fourth districts. Snyder, Griffin, and I are all in the second district. (The third district? Don't ask.)

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January 17, 2010 10:49 PM    in reply to hollywood

Your post is absolutely fucking hilarious. California has the problems it does because of its embrace of wacky leftwing policies, dumbass. It has the sixth highest taxes in the US, causing it to have the highest percentage of fleeing businesses and upper income taxpayers in the country, its unions are bankrupting the state, it has environmental regulations that make it, according to a survey of over 500 CEO's the worst state in the entire US to do business. Unenforced immigration laws cost the state over $5 Billion/year. And you blame its woes on Idaho and Alaska? You are a fucking moron.

As for your personal safety and the so-called rednecks in Wisconsin, tell me, which areas of the state have the highest crime rates, those populated by "rednecks" (again, the tolerance of the left is astounding) or those more urban areas that are run almost exclusively by the Democratic Party. The same can be asked of California. Which areas have more crime? Los Angeles, Oakland and San Francisco or more conservative, "redneck" areas? Again, you are an idiot, and a bigot as well.
And seriously, if you are afraid to travel to certain parts of Wisconsin because of the political philosophies of the inhabitants, there are only two words or phrases to describe you:
a)paranoid bigot
b)spineless pussy

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January 17, 2010 10:40 PM    in reply to hollywood

Ah, more evidence of the tolerant left.

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January 18, 2010 2:50 AM    in reply to masanf

Coming from someone whose party is motivated purely by racism, that's hilarious.

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January 15, 2010 7:59 PM   

Did Firedog Lake Take Out Vic Synder???
Dave Weigel

The question, raised by Nate Silver and others: Is Firedoglake trying to scare vulnerable Democrats into retirement in order to kill health care reform? All indications point to “yes.”
http://washingtonindependent.com/74105/did-firedoglake-take-out-vic-snyder

With friends like Jame Hamsher who needs Teabaggers?

I canceled her emails

You should too

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January 15, 2010 10:54 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

johnmccs,

If you follow the link in the main story to the Arkansas Times, you'll find this paragraph:

"Passengers on a flight to Little Rock Thursday with Snyder said he was shown a firedoglake.com poll that showed him trailing Griffin by 17 points. They said he showed no reaction. Friends believe his decision was made before the poll was released late last night."

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January 16, 2010 4:47 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

This healthcare "reform" bill deserves to die. It was a huge giveaway to the insurance and pharma guys from the very beginning. Jane Hamsher is my new hero!

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January 15, 2010 8:42 PM   

Hell, if I was in office and considered what a run would be like given the current uninhibited, un Godly, uncivilized and dispicable retoric from the GOP, I'd retire, too. Who in their right mind would want to go out day after day and face crazed people who ought to be institutionalized but are treated with full respect as thoughtful and well meaning citizens. Hell, these teabaggers are no more than what the nuthouse can't shelter due to cut-backs.

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January 15, 2010 11:07 PM   

How did Arkansas shift so much politically over the last 15 years? Bill Clinton, hardly a firebrand conservative, was elected Governor there six times and won the state twice by convincing margins as President. But GWB won it twice and McCain won it by 20 - one of only two states where Obama did not outperform John Kerry.

What happened here?

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January 15, 2010 11:13 PM    in reply to jdb316

Black man got elected Preznet!

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January 16, 2010 2:38 PM    in reply to jdb316

Part of the reason Obama did so much more poorly here than in more racist states is that there was still a lot of bad blood between his supporters and the Clintonistas. It wasn't so much opposition to him in the general as it was benign (ha!) neglect.

As for Clinton, he wasn't particularly liberal, either, even by Arkansas standards. Dale Bumpers and David Pryor, both of whom won multiple statewide elections, were liberals by anyone's standards, Bumpers in particular.

Clinton did quite a few "good government" things. That mostly pleases those a few steps up the ladder. He was quite remarkable as a retail politician. Lots of people didn't realize that warm feeling he gave them came from him pissing on their interests.

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January 18, 2010 2:56 AM    in reply to jdb316

The current president is black. It sounds horrible to us civilized people, I know, but I live in Arkansas. And I hear it *all the time.* Nigger jokes are the in thing, and you can only trust what you hear about Obama if it came from Faux.

It's really quite sickening. I'm planning on moving as soon as I'm financially able.

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January 16, 2010 12:26 AM   

Another one bites the dust,
Hay Hay Hay

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January 16, 2010 6:00 AM    in reply to inokeah

How articulate ! You must be from the south.

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January 16, 2010 2:41 PM    in reply to rbe1

Yeah, like Faulkner and Angelou.

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January 16, 2010 5:49 AM   

Abe Lincoln is not one of my favorite founding fathers because he didn't let the south go. Sigh.

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January 16, 2010 3:15 PM    in reply to rbe1

So you'd be happy if the South were a slaveholding nation, right on the border of the North? Perhaps you should think again. If you can't consider the interests of the millions of blacks freed by the Civil War, perhaps you can at least consider your own.

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January 16, 2010 9:31 AM   

A few things:

First of all, Arkansas has not made a wild swing to the right over the past 15 years. It has always been a culturally conservative state but Democrats continued to do very well here, thank you very much, until they decided to adopt corporate centrism as a model in the 1980s. Up until then, there weren't any Republicans going to Washington from this state. Since then, Republicans have held three of the four congressional seats at one time or another, and one of the Senate seats, along with the governorship. Populist Democrats would have no problem taking, and holding, three of the state's four congressional districts forever if they embraced populism not only on the campaign trail but after they got into office as well. What's happened to Arkansas is not that they left the Democrats but that the Democrats left them. If you're going to get the same corporate screwing from the Democrats as from the Republicans, you might as well go with the party that hates the same people you do.

About Snyder: he's a personal friend and a very nice guy who, for whatever reason, has done very little since being elected in 1996. My take on it is that he never really liked the job; I never saw him looking really happy after he went to DC and he seemed least happy of all when he was in DC. That, coupled with the fact that in 14 years he's never introduced any legislation and hasn't to my recollection even been an important co-sponsor on anything means that this is probably not only the best thing for him but also for the district.

He's garnered enough goodwill that he would probably beat Griffin, no matter what the polls are saying today. But he's never really performed up to potential. So let's hope that the Dems will field a good populist candidate who really wants the job - if they do, Tim Griffin doesn't have a chance in this district.

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January 16, 2010 1:13 PM    in reply to JennOfArk

That doesn't make any sense. If that were true, these three would never have been elected in the first place.

and doesn't populism in Arkansas also mean social conservatism?

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January 16, 2010 2:57 PM    in reply to dtOZONE

It meant social conservativism in the cases of Huckabee* and (tragically) Faubus (who could have been great). In the case of David Pryor, it meant broad-based liberalism. Have you heard about how he came to prominence? While serving in Congress, he quietly took a job as an orderly in a nursing home. He then took what he found to heart and used it to beat the nursing home industry into reform. David Pryor drastically changed the lives of elderly Americans for the better.

Isn't that magnificent? That, too, is Arkansas populism.

Populism is more a tactic than an ideology. It's up for use by whoever cares to take it. That we allowed the right wing to take up the populist cudgel rather than grabbing it ourselves in 2008 and raging against the banksters is a tragic mistake.

*I'm almost in sufficient despair over the state of the Democratic Party to start working for a Huckabee 2012 campaign in the primaries, not because he's the weakest candidate, but because he's the least frightening electable candidate for 2012.

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January 16, 2010 9:16 PM    in reply to adamsj

I am not a populist and the reason I'm not is that populism does not necessarily lead to good policy. Acting on public rage is never a good idea, what happens when they're raging at Muslims? Should we bomb Mecca because, hey, it's populist!

Huckabee? I guess you're anti-gay and anti-choice too...like your hero David Pryor! How could Huckabee be the least frightening candidate, he'd have homosexuals running back into the closet and women barefoot and pregnant.

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January 16, 2010 10:29 PM    in reply to dtOZONE

You've clearly confused David Pryor, who was very much a liberal as both governor and senator, with his son Mark Pryor. The best I can say for Mark Pryor is that he provided one bright moment in the 2002 election, giving Tim Hutchinson a fine beating.

As for Huckabee, you should read more carefully. I'm thinking about pushing him in the primaries, not the general election. The Democratic Party may have screwed the pooch for the next few election cycles, and Huckabee is the least scary Republican.

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January 17, 2010 12:28 PM    in reply to adamsj

David Pryor was no social liberal.

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January 16, 2010 10:42 PM    in reply to dtOZONE

I forgot to mention the part with which I agree with you, at least a little. Right now, populism is right-wing, and it's dangerous. I was pleasantly surprised not to see at least one act of mob (rather than individual) violence out of the tea party demonstrations last year. In the past, though, it's been both right-wing and left-wing. I'll say it again: Populism is more a tactic (or perhaps an attitude) than an ideology. Right now, it's directed against us. That's dangerous.

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January 16, 2010 2:15 PM    in reply to JennOfArk

One thing I'd add, Jenn: Snyder opposed the Iraq War. That's just one thing, but it was the big one of the decade.

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January 16, 2010 10:59 PM    in reply to JennOfArk

One other thing, Jenn: Arkansas has been sending Republicans to Congress from the third district for as long as I can remember. I don't think even the end of Reconstruction--nope, I take that back. Wikipedia says the D's got that seat in the middle of the forty-third congress through an election contest. I suspect that was part of the racist restoration--and held the seat until Hammerschmidt took it in 1965, two years before our last good Republican governor, Win Rockefeller, put Faubus out of office.

You know, looking back over the last thirty years, Hammerschmidt looks a lot better. Just consider this roll of infamy: Ed Bethune, Jay Dickey, Asa Hutchinson, Tim Hutchinson, John Boozeman, and the creme de la crud, Tommy Robinson.

(P.S. I'm not really an expert in Arkansas history. I just have an internet connection.)

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January 16, 2010 11:11 PM    in reply to adamsj

Sigh. I'm really not an expert. It was "Justice Jim" Johnson (what an inappropriate name) who Rockefeller beat in '67. Johnson had beaten Faubus in the primary, which I'm not sure is due to Faubus fatigue (six terms as governor) or Johnson's virulent racism.

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