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President Obama's senior adviser David Axelrod said that despite saying jobs is his No. 1 priority and offering no deadline for getting health care passed, the president remains intent on getting a plan passed so Democrats can get on with campaigning on its merits.

Axelrod said today during a briefing with reporters and opinion-makers he would not entertain "what happens if it doesn't work," because it would be "a great political mistake to walk away from this issue."

"There were plenty of people who said before the speech last night, just stand up there and say 'It's over.' Say 'We tried,' and move on because it's too politically difficult," Axelrod said. "And that's not what he did and we are working closely with folks on the Hill to develop the way forward and get this done and that's all we're focused on, on health care, is getting it done."

Axelrod, who has worked with Obama for years, said the president wants to allow Democrats time to process the new political reality of 59 Senate seats but he wants them to "go back at it soon."

Presented with Democratic complaints that Obama was not more specific in his health care remarks during his State of the Union, Axelrod said he would not discuss tactics.

"When heads cool a little we will decide the best way to move forward," he said. "We haven't transitioned away from it ... we are going to take the steps we think hold out the most promise to getting this done."

Axelrod refused to tip his hand about where those talks would be headed beyond detailing the difficulty of working with such a diverse caucus and that the White House-Capitol Hill negotiations remain very active.

Asked about reconciliation, Axelrod said it could only be used for portions of the bill but did note wryly, "reconciliation is a tool that is there to be used."

He also declined to give any sort of timeline for getting it done, saying that Obama used deadlines last year to "drive the legislative process." He does believe Democrats will be able to successfully campaign on its passage once it does.

"I don't know anybody who has put more chips in the middle of the table on this than he has," Axelrod said.

While attempting to work with Republicans (Obama is addressing their retreat in Baltimore tomorrow), the president has no illusions that it would be easy to get the GOP to cooperate with the midterm elections looming large, Axelrod said.

But he said supporters who gave $25 during the campaign "want us to make the maximum effort to see if we can put together coalitions to get things done."

"We may have to work with what we have here ... the country needs to know that we tried to do it, that we reached out that we tried that opportunity," Axelrod said. "We're going to make a good faith effort, it has to be on them, it's not going to be on us."

Axelrod said the party plans to highlight obstruction tactics, including the record number of filibuster attempts for legislation that ultimately passed with wide support.

In 2009, Republicans "didn't pay enough of a price for what was a determined strategy not to work with us," he said.
More from the Axelrod briefing here and here.

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January 28, 2010 6:54 PM   

CNN was bloviating in the SOTU post-mortem last night with all the guests about how the health care bill was totally dead. Amazing stuff.

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January 28, 2010 7:06 PM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

The only thing totally dead is CNN's political coverage. I hope they pay Begala enough to appear on endless panels of brain-dead hacks. Campbell Brown sounds like she's auditioning for talk radio.

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January 29, 2010 8:32 AM    in reply to fbacon2

In my opinion, CNN is worse than FOX. At least with FOX everyone knows just where they're coming from: they are they GOP propaganda TV network. CNN -- besides being monumentally stupid -- pretends to be even-handed while it is so sunk in the DC mindset -- think David Gergen, Paul Begala, James Carville, Mary Matalin, Bill Bennett, etc. -- that they think the world ends before you get to Baltimore or Richmond. U Although Fareed Zakaria is pretty good, their anchors are FLAT OUT STUPID. Campbell Brown. Don Whatever. Anderson Cooper (who is nonetheless great in disaster areas where he can BE the story). Unwatchable. Now the bigger question is why MSNBC isn't a real news network. There is no hard news programming. And there is nothing at all on weekends (watching tattooed convicts protest their innocence while prison guards smirk doesn't count). Please please please give us some intelligent television news. I truly think that, right now, the greatest impediment to progress is that our culture is saturated by FOX and CNN propaganda and nonsense.

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January 29, 2010 8:39 AM    in reply to wbgonne

P.S., It's no accident that support for Obama's policies rises and falls in direct correlation to education level. Stupid is as stupid does.

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January 29, 2010 9:50 AM    in reply to wbgonne

Pass. The. Damn. Bill.

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January 29, 2010 2:02 PM    in reply to CityGuy

Yeah.

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January 29, 2010 7:58 PM    in reply to wbgonne

your right its no mistake. those with "multiple degrees" (says the survey) who represent the banking, pharma, insurance and lobbyist rackets are doing astonishingly well under the democrats. the rest, no so good - but its not hard to figure out why the geitners of the country are happy.

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January 29, 2010 2:10 PM    in reply to fbacon2

I don't know who the anchor-ette was, but she exclaimed (expecting the answer "No!"), "Is there any reason any Dem. would now support a health care bill?!" I'm closely paraphrasing; she apparently thought his was especially clever.

Candy Crowley had to shut her down and supply one answer that, "Because they want to get re-elected!"

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January 29, 2010 10:06 AM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

TPM's readers are by and large afraid of the truth. Open up your eyes and read a real newspaper for some fact.
This President asks for bi-partisan consensus on whether or not he should unzip his fly before he goes to the bathroom. How's he going to pass health care? Today he is going to see the Republicans in Baltimore. Does anyone but him think that this is going to change a single mind? Republicans would chop off their own limbs before they would support him. If Obama's for Mother's Day, Republicans are against it. (Can't you see the talking point: "A helicoptering government seeks to perpetuate the Mommy State.")
He has no political sense. He had no plan for what would happen if Croakly lost, something that everyone was predicting since New Year's. Did he carry a spare tire in the trunk of his car when he drove? Does he even have a contingency plan?
Memo to voters: don't get sick!

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January 31, 2010 5:02 PM    in reply to Harry Truman

In short, there is *no doubt* that they screwed up Massachusetts beyond ready imagination. I shouted the alarm, two days before the event, on my blog here and I was blackly cursed by Obama's critics on the left who take no responsibility for winning together and have no loyalty, really ugly words at me (and now they'll likely deny their oafishness). And I was also impatiently scolded by others that Coakley would win easily, so no effort was needed and I should *SHUT UP!!* So there is blame to go around. (Some on here raced into print with bizarre "explanations" as to why their own do-nothing approach left them utterly blameless somehow.)

If Dems don't pass health care, it's a monster fail, you're right, and I'll pledge to write in *your* name in 2012. But I think they'll pass it. Sure hope so, even if it does cost you my one write-in vote.

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February 2, 2010 8:46 PM    in reply to Harry Truman

Post debate post: he did better than I thought he would, although the concession the "we" sometimes back ourselves into rhetorical corners was unnecessary. The kid'll learn, I hope.

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January 31, 2010 2:05 PM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

Not only is it a political mistake but a moral mistake...45,000 die per year...They will do no better with republican ideas--if there are such things- because they are protecting the corporations profits!

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January 31, 2010 2:06 PM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

Not only is it a political mistake but a moral mistake...45,000 die per year...They will do no better with republican ideas--if there are such things- because they are protecting the corporations profits!

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January 28, 2010 7:03 PM   

This really isn't good enough from a strategic point. All of these players have to be brought to strategic agreement on things like when to dump Grassley or Snowe. If this is the Obama team--then they really do not play hardball with anyone. Good Grief! Treat it like the military providing you a strategic overview--this is not difficult.

All Democrats and Obama voters are paying a price here. Put yourself in charge, Obama, and develop a strategy for fundraising, moving legislation forward, and then go forth and sell it in your speeches. And manage campaigns for the federal folks with at least a bit of skin in the effort.

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January 28, 2010 7:06 PM   

"There were plenty of people who said before the speech last night, just stand up there and say 'It's over.'

Cough - Rahm - cough.

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January 28, 2010 7:09 PM   

There were plenty of people who said before the speech last night, just stand up there and say 'It's over.' Say 'We tried,' and move on because it's too politically difficult,"

Oh, please. I like you David, and you seem mostly competent, but name one damn person who publicly said this.

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January 28, 2010 10:29 PM    in reply to CT Voter

Yeah. Not just people, but PLENTY of people? WTF?

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January 29, 2010 11:07 AM    in reply to CT Voter

To be fair, there were plenty of people around here saying that. And I don't just mean Lalo and the rest of the trolls...

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January 29, 2010 12:30 PM    in reply to ondioline

Well, then, if Axelrod reads TPM then he is correct.

But there wasn't anyone publicly saying what he claims.

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January 29, 2010 12:37 PM    in reply to CT Voter

I don't know how public they were in their statements, but judging from the mass panic in Congress, I'm sure you could think of a few people wanting to run away from health care. I also consider proud pronouncements about the demise of health care to be public statements urging the president to walk away. Defying these pronouncements to keep the process alive is what Axelrod is talking about.

If Plouffe and others feel the need to wage a PR campaign to tell members of their own party to pass a bill, then you can be sure there was pressure to run.

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January 28, 2010 7:10 PM   

So what I'm hearing is that you didn't have a plan for if Coakley lost. But now, more than a week after Coakley lost... YOU STILL DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

I feel so much better.

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January 29, 2010 1:38 PM    in reply to CN

He never had a plan.

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January 29, 2010 8:00 PM    in reply to CN

i have probably 50 or 60 minutes of tivo, of axlerod saying over, and over, and over that they "will use reconcilliation" if they have to.. what was that? was that not a plan B? Sounds like the lie it always was, to me.

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January 28, 2010 7:37 PM   

Almost as big of political mistake as assuming the Massachusettes senate seat was safe. Howard Dean has a plan. Expand Medicare, extend Medcaid to a larger group, put all the good stuff (non Insurance company givaways) in the current House and Senate bills into one smaller bill and vote on it. The Republicans will kill it and thus give the Dems a campaign issue.

Expanding Medicare was the plan from its inception. Why Dems haven't kept at it is a mistery.

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January 28, 2010 7:50 PM    in reply to henk

No mystery. There is too much money flowing to the hill.

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January 28, 2010 7:56 PM    in reply to henk

Fuck Dean! The people don't need a campaign issue. The people need HCR!

They can pass HCR AND get a campaign issue.

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January 28, 2010 9:47 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I love the condescending arrogant bullshit about what people need. The fact they don't want the bill the Dems are trying to ram through? Who cares because the left knows what is best for them.

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January 29, 2010 9:47 AM    in reply to masanf

Actually, polls show that the American public want MORE than what the Dems are giving them. The public supports a Public Option, in numerous polls, by a wide margin.

"The left" wants a Public Option. So, in this case, "the left" really does know best.

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January 29, 2010 9:52 AM    in reply to mrCurmudgeon

I think the Left-Right dichotomy is inimical to reform. These issues -- like the public option -- should be addressed on individual merit. That's where the general public is. I don't think 60% of Americans want the public option b/c it is "left" or "progressive"; they want it b/c it makes sense.

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January 29, 2010 8:06 PM    in reply to masanf

better know who and what your are talking about before you make blanket statements like that. if not for the lefty wing of the democratic party that bill would already be "rammed down your throat" and seeking an exit hole. and if you dont believe me there are plenty of DLC type dems on here who will be happy to start cussing me out to prove it.

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January 29, 2010 11:06 AM    in reply to henk

Please. Howard Dean has a plan: turn the country into the Socialist Republic of America.

Seriously, people, we are not going to get single-payer. We are not going to get Medicare expansion as long as we need Joe Lieberman's vote.

The House should pass the senate's version and the senate should run some decent candidates designed to get over the 60-vote threshold. But the House insists on ruining this just like it did in 2002 with the prescription drug benefit (which wasn't quite good enough by relying on the private sector pricing, so instead, the GOP took over the senate by promising prescription drug benefit and it expanded its majority in the House. Great strategy).

It's there. We're at the finish line. After 50 years, we are at the finish line. And, yet we have people in the House -- whether they are progressive or conservative -- insisting on screwing this up. And, this is why people don't vote for Democrats. They refuse to govern. Despite a massive majority in both houses, the Democrats cannot enact a health care bill.

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January 29, 2010 8:02 PM    in reply to Mateo123

thank god your side is losing health care. if you represent the DLC harold ford wing of the dem party, they can lose a few more seats.

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January 28, 2010 8:10 PM   

I really don't understand why it's so complicated at this point. It seemed as though House and Senate negotiators had reached agreement on all or most items before Coakley lost. Why not take that framework -- or finish the job if it's not done -- and then look at the items that can be passed using reconciliation. Then the House passes the Senate bill, both houses pass a reconciliation measure based on this agreement and you're done. As far as the areas of agreement that differ from the Senate bill and can't be done by reconciliation, you can always try one or more stand-alone bills at that point. But even if none pass, you've got a new law that's way better than the status quo and that's better in some key areas from the Senate bill too.

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January 28, 2010 9:46 PM    in reply to Moose49

Why is is so complicated? Because the fucking bill is unpopular as hell that's why. There are people who will be voted out of office in November if they vote for the piece of shit bill. It is amazing that people cannot seem to grasp that simple fact. If the public was crying out to have this thing passed, it would have been done already. People don't want it. There is a reason you have not seen one moderate or one Congressman that doesn't live in a safe district come out and say "hey, let's pass this thing". The only people who are talking about ramming it through are those not up for reelection in 2010 or those who live in safe districts.

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January 28, 2010 10:10 PM    in reply to masanf

If they don't pass the bill, the people who already voted for it will suffer whatever negative consequences there may be come November. The political damage has already been done. And it will be made worse by 1) The Republicans having the final say in the narrative, trumpeting their success in keeping the bill from becoming law, and 2) The Democrats proving to voters that they're incompetent to govern even when they have some of the largest majorities in history.

If the bill does become law, the American people will see that they no longer have to worry about being denied coverage due to preexisting conditions, that they no longer have to worry about medical bankruptcy, that they no longer have to worry about losing coverage if they're laid off, and that they'll be able to receive federal subsidies to help them afford health insurance if they earn $88,000 a year or less. They'll also see that all the fearmongering by the Republicans about the awful impact of the bill won't come to pass.

The sooner the Dems can make this happen, the more time they'll have to make sure the voters understand how they benefit, to rebut the lies, and to spend more time addressing the economy.

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January 29, 2010 8:58 AM   

There is no reform of health care. Every institution is kept in place and their profits enhanced. The whipping boys are becoming the providers - my lord, the insurers get billions in taxpayers' money , either thru mandate or tax subsidy, then, the providers are squeezed to 'cut costs'.

This is a fact:

The Senate bill specifies that insurers only have to spend 80% of your health premium on actual medical or health care. The other 20% of your premium can be spent on lobbying, campaign donations, CEO bonuses, fighting your claim for treatment, and supporting 'sympathetic' politicians.

Yes. it is a fact that 20% of the private sectors 'take' under 'reform' can be keep for such 'overhead'. Medicaids' 'overhead' is less than 4%. If reform was to 'cut the cost of health', then cut the private sector to 4%, and there will be 16% more money for actual medical care.

Again, the Democrats and Obama have put people last.

Kill this bill. Whether it is a tragedy or a farce depends on your perspective. But, regardless of your feelings, that it is a ripoff is a fact.

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January 29, 2010 9:02 AM   

Everyone knows it's political suicide for the Dems to produce nothing on health care. But it's equally dangerous for them to ram through the current Senate version. The best bet is a watered down compromise that can get one or two Republicans on board once Brown is seated.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

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January 29, 2010 9:53 AM    in reply to jim43

"Ram through"? The Senate version was passed by 60 senators. The House has an opportunity to pass that bill and then both chambers can pass corrections. Where's the ramming? "Ramming" is a word Republicans use when they're trying to discredit what is in fact a democratic process. Republicans get 50 votes plus Cheney and it's a victory for democracy and the people; Democrats get 60 votes and it's ramming.

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January 29, 2010 9:56 AM   

Just pass the damn Senate bill already and put the Senate on the dime for the changes. Stop holding people hostage in some inter-Congress ego feud.

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January 29, 2010 10:21 AM   

WH already said they're waiting for Brown to be seated on February 11th - which is the right way to go politically. After that, we'll know what the senate is up to.

Only possible thing to do until then is for the House to pass senate bill. If WH and Senate could give House a "secret" agreement fix the bill, maybe the house would pass it. But, the House probably doesn't want to appear conciliatory.

So, February 11th is the date to watch.

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January 29, 2010 11:20 AM   

Asked about reconciliation, Axelrod said it could only be used for portions of the bill but did note wryly, "reconciliation is a tool that is there to be used."

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January 29, 2010 12:11 PM   

He's right if the Democrats don't pass the bill they will loose big simply because they have no incentive to get out to vote

The health insurance bill was and is about saving lives 44,000 Americans who are dying isn't that a Human Rights Issue all you so called Christians who are fighting this bill?

You have to wonder if America is such a Christian Nation why are the Republicans fighting saving 44,000 lives of thos dying every year

Why do they pretend that they have the lock on Christianity

Why do they call themselve evangelicals and pretend to be such Christians

When they go to the congress to their JOBS that YOu and I pay their Salary their pay checks every Month, Pay THeir HEalth CARE for their families, Pay all their BILLS

YET THEY LEAVE THE VERY PEOPLE PAYING THEIR FAMILY BILLS OUT OF WORK OUT OF HEALTH INSURANCE OUT OF HOPE

THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM TAKING OUR MONEY AND PLAYING GAMES JUST SAYING NO, NO , NO , NO, NO, NO

THEY ARE SITTING ON THEIR BUTS IN CONGRESS DOING NOTHING NOT WORKING, NOT WORKING NOT WORKING AND LAUGHING AT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY THINK WE ARE STUPID AND WON'T DO ANYTHING TO VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE OR CAUSE AN ALARM WITH THE MEDIA AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS OUTLETS

DORIS KERNS GOODWIN SAID LAST NIGHT LET THEM FILIBUSTER AND LET THE PUBLIC WATCH

MS. GOODWIN SAID THE REPUBLICANS FILIBUSTERED 57 DAYS TRYING TO STOP THE CIVIL RIGHTS BILL FROM PASSING AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REVOLTED ONLY THEN DID THEY SOME VOTE TO PASS THE BILL

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED THAT'S WHAT GOVERNOR RENDELL SAID DAYS AGO LET THEM FILLIBUSTER STOP BEING BULLIED DEMS

LET THEM TELL THE AMERICANS PEOPLE WHY THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH 44,000 DYING

AMERICANS WHO HAVE NOT HAD TO USE THE HEALTH SYSTEM FOR ANY SERIOUS ILLNESS HAVE NO IDEA AND THEY HAD BETTER PRAY THAT THEY DON'T BECAUSE EVEN THOSE WITH HEALTH INSURANCE 70% HAVE FILED BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES LEFT THEM HOLDING THE BAG REFUSED TO PAY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR CLAIMS, THOUSANDS OF DOLLAS.

SO DEMS BEWARE IF YOU WALK AWAY FROM HEALTH CARE YOU WILL BE REPLACED ESPECIALLY THE "BLUE DOG DEMS" WHO SHOULD BE SITTING ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE ISLE.

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January 29, 2010 1:40 PM    in reply to jana47

Caps Lock key! Caps Lock key! Hit the damn Caps Lock key!!!

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January 29, 2010 8:10 PM    in reply to farnsworth

did you read it? this issue is life and death to some people. o wait i forgot! to half the genius opinionaters on TPM its just an entertaining political football game.

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January 29, 2010 5:36 PM   

The Democrats have cobbled together a disastrous approach that puts more and more health care dollars into the hands of insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry and less and less into actual medical care and health services.

The Democrats 'reform' are not reforms at all. The 'reforms' are simply methods of creating hundreds of thousands of new premium payers for the insurance companies.

The premiums will either be paid directly by individuals directly to the insurance company or, if the individual's income is below a certain level, then the government will pay the premium to the insurance company.

What will the insurance company do with the premium?

The Senate bill specifies that insurers only have to spend 80% of the premium on actual medical care. The other 20% can be spent on lobbying, campaign donations, CEO bonuses, fighting your claim for treatment, and supporting 'sympathetic' politicians.

It is a fact that 20% of the private sectors 'take' under 'reform' can be keep for such 'overhead'. Medicaid 'overhead' is less than 4%. If the Democrat's reform was intended to actually 'cut the cost of health care', then the reform should either (1) cut the private sector overhead to 4%, so there will be 16% more money for actual medical care, or (2) use the Medicaid system.

As with the financial bailout, the Democrats have pretended an 'emergency' in order to move the middle class's money to the wealthy and the corporations.Corporate welfare is robbing Americans of opportunities, savings, and now health care.

Kill this bill now and do it right. Then and only then will the Democrats find 'support' for real reform. As it is now, the Democrats are losing their own constituency, right along with the independents. This bill is a rip off for Americans.

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January 29, 2010 7:55 PM   

The F-ING walrus obviously wants that pharma and insurance racket money in 2010 so bad he'd probably...well im not going to visualize what he'd probably do for it.

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