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After casting her ballot this morning, Martha Coakley (D) told reporters she's going to win the Massachusetts special election today. The AP report:

Coakley said she wasn't paying attention to media or polls suggesting she might lose to Brown, who's ridden a wave of support across the solidly Democratic state. She planned to greet voters at a commuter rail station in Boston before heading to cities in the southern and western part of the state and also scheduled a return to Boston Tuesday night to await the results.

Click here for video of Coakley's brief press conference this morning from WBZ-TV in Boston.

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January 19, 2010 9:45 AM   

Christ, I am sooo going to watch DVD's and generally avoid all news tonight and try to delay finding out about the outcome until tomorrow morning.

I spent all of Sunday night dreaming I was one of Ted Kennedy's pallbearers and woke up at 4:50 outraged at the notion that the voters of Massachusetts will use the election to fill his seat to kill the one thing he dedicated the last quarter of his life to trying to achieve. I really need to get some sleep tonight. Plenty of time to cry or be pleasantly surprised tomorrow.

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January 19, 2010 10:08 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

How did a guy who posed nude in Cosmo, snubbed 911 workers, and is against everything Kennedy stood for, even get this far? What the hell is going on in Massachusetts?

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January 19, 2010 10:25 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

What happened is Coakley ran a truly horrible campaign and the Republicans have been far more assertive with selling their message than the Democrats have been selling theirs. Once again, Democrats either have no guts or they have the arrogant attitude of "if you can't figure out on your own why you should side with us, we're not going to bother with you."

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January 19, 2010 11:41 AM    in reply to jdb316

Geez. I also heard she was making terrible gaffs about health care. Unbelievale.

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January 19, 2010 12:49 PM    in reply to jdb316

Don't forget talk radio's impact. There's plenty of 24/7 right-wing radio in the Metro-Boston market. Sound and fury, values and patriotism, etc.
The Commonwealth is not politically monolithic.
And employment in construction was on its way down the tubes when the Big Dig wound down. There are a lot of dis-satisfied folks, who just don't understand they've been voting for the causes of that dissatisfaction.

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January 19, 2010 11:01 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

The klan party has no morals

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January 19, 2010 10:27 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

This proves we are wayyy to involved in these day to day politics. I had acid reflux during the entire year of 2008. I can't do that myself anymore. The Dems will survive even if Coakley loses.

I would just like to know what is going on in Massachussetts for this to happen. This guy is a fricking nightmare. According to all the local Mass papers, Obama is very very popular in Mass so why doesn't this translate into the senate seat especially in a state that has never elected a republican to the senate (or am I wrong on that one)??

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January 19, 2010 10:40 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

I'd say that the overweening arrogance of liberalism, in it's disregard for the voters, is whats wrong with Mass. Your whining about how misguided they are is a perfect example.

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January 19, 2010 11:52 AM    in reply to shooter242

That's really surprising, shooter. I never would have guessed that your reaction would have been standard Republican spin... especially after explaining how Obama's victory in 2008 was a result of Bush/McCain being too liberal. Some might see this pattern and say that your reaction to ANY election will be an assertion that the loser was too liberal, but not I. I have faith in your intellectual integrity.

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January 19, 2010 10:45 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

MA has elected a Repub senator, Edward Brooke. But that was long before the Republicans went insane.

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January 19, 2010 1:08 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Yes, and if the MA Republican party put more candidates like Ed Brooke up for election, they would have a lot more to say in the state legislature. In fact, if the national party had more candidates who behaved like Ed Brooke, they might attract some left of center votes. As it is, I won't vote for anyone Republican for any seat, and I used to. It's the attitude and behavior that has driven me away. Call it the Newt Gingrich syndrome because it started with him for me.

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January 19, 2010 5:46 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Yes indeed My bad. I should have remembered that especially since he was honored not too long ago.

Thanks

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January 19, 2010 10:48 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

I would explain it but you won't listen so I won't.

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January 19, 2010 5:43 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Why do you think I wouldn't listen??? I asked the question which meant I wanted an answer.

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January 19, 2010 11:21 AM    in reply to lousgirl84

Because the reality of electoral politics in this country remains unchanged. The balance of power still is controlled by a group of people who are sufficiently civic-minded to vote, but insufficiently civic-minded to actually pay attention to politics between elections. As a result, they're prone to vote on bases that are bizarre and inexplicable to those of us who do. Who'd they like to have a beer with. Whose spouse they like the most. Whether they know someone unemployed or who lost their house since the current bunch were elected, without much regard to how things got that way. Flawed analogies and metaphors, e.g., "when times are bad, I must reduce spending and pay down debt, ergo, that's what the government should do to." Superficial impressions gleaned from cursory surfing of what the MSM says and what the MSM says that the people in the wings of the parties say.

As a rule, they usually say they want "change," because the status quo is kicking their ass. But that's "change" in the abstract. When faced with the actual prospect of actual change, they recoil in horror because since the 1970s, their experience with change has been mostly negative and their anxieties about change overwhelm their anxieties about the status quo.

All of American politics for the last twenty-five years boils down to a fight for the hearts and minds of this group of voters. Their lack of connection to, or interest in, the actual issues of the day and policy discussions is totally unfathomable to us on the left. To the power brokers on the right, it's viewed with a degree of exploitive cynicism we couldn't match if we wanted to.

Among those on the left side of the Democratic party, there are those who say the best way to win those hearts and minds is to ram through purely progressive policies by whatever means necessary. Once they see the benefits, they'll come around, or at least respect the conviction and seriousness of purpose. And that they'll react negatively to anything less than drastic change because it will look weak and coopted.

It's a theory, and one that at least has the benefit of attempting to conform theory to practice, but there's not a hell of a lot of data that unequivocally support it.

And then, of course, there are those among the progressives who know only their anger and their ideology and their emotive response to seeing their ideology thwarted. They simply wave away the hard political reality these people present and respond to attempts to talk about the problem with magical thinking and invective.

At the other end, my end, I suppose, there are those who say these people have been emired in the Reagan paradigm for so long, so deeply indoctrinated into it's ideological tenents and so battered by the effects of its policies, that they're going to have to be patient with them and try to pull them leftward by littles until they gradually adjust to the new normal. That if you confront them with too much change at once, their anxiety will overcome their reason and they'll run to the perceived safety of what they know the way my cats run back into their usually hated travel crates once they get to the vet's office.

It's a theory, and one that at least has the benefit of attempting to conform theory to practice, but there's not a hell of a lot of data that unequivocally support it.

And then there are the people to my right who use the electoral reality that these people present as an excuse for continuing business as usual, for doing nothing to change their minds, for continuing to just collect that sweet campaign cash and never stick their necks out or try to make things better. Who probably don't even really have a conception of "better" anymore.

And thus we on the left fight and fight and tear each other to pieces because, to the progressives, everyone to their right looks Evan Bayh or Ben Nelson and to people like me, all the progressives sound like Hamsher and Sirota.

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January 19, 2010 11:35 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

to the progressives, everyone to their right looks Evan Bayh or Ben Nelson and to people like me, all the progressives sound like Hamsher and Sirota.

I appreciate your thoughtful comments. As a progressive, however, I don't think everyone to my right is Bayh or Nelson. I realize there are many people with whom I could work with and find considerable common ground. But Bayh and Nelson are what they are -- Republicans who have chosen to run as Dems for their own reasons. I also agree re: the far left (of which I am not a member).The far lefters like Hamsher and Greenwald are shrill and ultimately counterproductive. However, they have been elevated in stature and notoriety due to the timidity of Obama and the Est-Dems. If Obama began governing as a progressive, the Lefty Bombthrowers would disappear. I watched Obama here in MA for Coakley: he mouthed some populist rhetoric but it sounded weak. We'll see how he reacts after today. I really hope he realizes that when he doesn't control the narrative lunatics like the Teabaggers get to run away with it. There is a lot of populist anger and energy in the country and Obama has to harness that or it will destroy his presidency. DLC maneuvering is the absolute worst thing to do under these circumstances, yet that is exactly how Obama and the Dems have been governing.

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January 19, 2010 3:12 PM    in reply to wbgonne

"If Obama began governing as a progressive, the Lefty Bombthrowers would disappear."

See, the lesson I have taken from recent political history is that if Obama had governed as an Out and Proud Progressive, the R-Lites in his own party would have openly and unapologetically blocked every remotely progressive initiative he put forth (meaning they would have still given him the votes for the AfPak escalation, BTW), and he would have been thrown on the ash heap of failed Dem presidents ala Jimmy Carter, who also took on a Dem Congress to his everlasting detriment.

And I'm pretty sure Greenwald and Hamsher would have still been blaming him for a failure of will. Or something.

In other words, Obama will fail, by the standards of FDR, the mushy independents Steve describes, the MSM, the FDL-left, and of course the Republicans. I just hope he gets a few bills that will benefit the average American passed in the process of failing.

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January 19, 2010 3:45 PM    in reply to wbgonne

To wbgonne and ncsteve: I waver back and forth between your two positions, though more often I side, emotionally at least, with wbgonne (by the way, wbgonne, what boston neighborhood are you from -- I'm from JP).

Like wbgonne, I feel Obama cut deals with the devils far too early on health reform and bank reform. The result was not only to alienate the left, but also, I believe, the middle, who, even though they don't recognize it, instinctively favor the leftwing approach -- that NYT/CBS poll early in the fall clearly showed that: it found a huge majority favoring a Medicare option available to all; even a plurality of self-identified Republicans in the poll favored it.

The Geithner, Summers installments and the failure to crack down on the banks also alienated both the left and the middle (and even some on the right).

Obama needed to start out with a strong progressive position and then negotiate toward the middle, much as Kennedy did during most of his Senate career. In all my years I almost never saw Kennedy cave in too early. He was a master. When he finally had a compromise, the progressives generally supported it because they knew where Kennedy was coming from and believed he had gotten the best deal possible.

Had Obama done that and still ended up where we are today, he would still have the support of the left, and, I think, much of the middle.

On the other hand, I still worry, much like NCSteve probably, about creating a backlash to the right, much as Kennedy did when he ran against Carter, with the result that I've spent all of my adult life with the nation under the sway, if not total control, of rightwing ideology.

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January 19, 2010 1:14 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Well-thought out and well-stated!

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January 19, 2010 5:49 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

That was a great post. Thank you Steve. and I agree. I have a family full of those folks who vote for people that talk like them, or they want to have a beer with or whose spouse they do or don't like. I can barely speak to my family other than hello, how are you, how's the weather.

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January 19, 2010 10:02 AM   

I think I'd be more than a little frightened if a candidate DIDN'T predict victory.

Word of high turnout can only help Coakley...and it will still be an uphill battle.

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January 19, 2010 11:13 AM    in reply to EnnuiDivine

High turnout will help Brown.

He's winning the independent by a high margin and just beating Coakley among younger voters. If we assume that these two cohorts are the groups that expand turnout beyond average - following the theory that hard partisans, union members, etc. always turnout - then this means more voters who have polled that they are supporting Brown are showing up.

Of course those polls need to be right, but that is what it is.

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January 19, 2010 10:07 AM   

Coakley said she wasn't paying attention to media or polls...

Martha, I want you to win, we need you to win. But whatever the result may be, I will never understand why you weren't paying attention to so many things for so too long since the primary.

Dang it, I'm scared. Really, really scared.

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January 19, 2010 10:09 AM    in reply to geofu54

She WAS paying attention to the polls and the media early on. That's why she thought she was a shoe-in and didn't have to campaign.

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January 19, 2010 10:50 AM    in reply to geofu54

come on, you believe that she wasn't paying attention to the media?

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January 19, 2010 11:04 AM    in reply to Viva!America!

Nope, I don't believe that seriously, Freerider and Viva. And perhaps hindsight is 50/50, I know. But her silence early on did leave the door open for Brown to frame the election (his campaign was so aggressive -- gotta give him credit no matter what fuckin idiot he is).

Oh well, what's done is done, what isn't done isn't done... I'll keep making calls.

Later.

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January 19, 2010 10:21 AM   

Turn out was brisk when I voted in suburban Newton this morning at 7:10--my wife voted at 7:30 and the polling place was busy then, too. The Democratic base is energized and understands that importance of turning out. We'll be there--its the independents I worry about because a Suffolk Univ poll showed Brown up by double digits in three bellwether workingclass cities--Peabody, Gardiner and Fitchburg. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but, frankly, I'm pessimistic about the outcome.

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January 19, 2010 10:27 AM   

And if Coakley loses, she may still have a lucrative career as body-double for Rachel Maddow.

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January 19, 2010 10:36 AM   

U GO GIRL!

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January 19, 2010 10:43 AM   

I am So enjoying this. Heh.

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January 19, 2010 10:46 AM    in reply to shooter242

Yeah, with any luck Dick Cheney will run for president and then we can destroy the country completely.

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January 19, 2010 11:00 AM    in reply to wbgonne

Teabagger backed publigan winning in MA we're on our way destroying ourselves. I'm now think we have retards or we will have enough retards by 2012 that Sarah Palin will become president

Nazi Socialism Fascism, that's the talking points these days.

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January 19, 2010 11:53 AM    in reply to shooter242

It's going to be pretty funny when the House passes HCR anyway next week.

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January 19, 2010 1:16 PM    in reply to shooter242

Fat, stupid and Jizzing on Palin photos is no way to go through life, son.

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January 19, 2010 10:57 AM   

When was the last time you heard a politician say "I'm not gonna win"?

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January 19, 2010 11:00 AM    in reply to kash79

Dumb arse Sarah Palin because remember "I can see Russia from my bathroom"

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January 19, 2010 11:09 AM   

Unfortunately she also predicted victory in December before promptly going on vacation, and suddenly developed an aversion to talking to people or shaking their hands.

TheWeekinRebuke.com

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January 19, 2010 11:27 AM   

Voting was brisk in Barnstable, which is not a good sign as the Cape is one of the most conservative regions of the state (all those retirees from all over New England that settled here). Let's just hope that Boston and the suburbs makle up for the old-timers and talk-radio townies out here in the sticks.

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January 19, 2010 11:37 AM    in reply to Chesire111

That is a BAD sign.

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January 19, 2010 12:09 PM   

What a f'ing depressing day. I'm with NC Steve here....I'm going to do my best to avoid media the rest of today. I just can't deal with it.

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January 19, 2010 3:01 PM   

"All of American politics for the last twenty-five years boils down to a fight for the hearts and minds of this group of voters. Their lack of connection to, or interest in, the actual issues of the day and policy discussions is totally unfathomable to us on the left. To the power brokers on the right, it's viewed with a degree of exploitive cynicism we couldn't match if we wanted to."

Great comment. How do you persuade masses of people who don't want to hear detailed, rational explanations for the problems that they face and the possible solutions to them, and probably wouldn't understand those explanations even if they were willing to listen?

It's easier to vote for the tall, good-looking guy. He acts like he knows what he's talking about. And he keeps it simple and direct. We like simple and direct.

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