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Dems Worry In MA-Sen: Martha Coakley, They Just Aren't That Into You

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In a winning campaign every move is brilliant, and in a losing campaign every move is a blunder. But Democrats caught off guard by the tight race in Massachusetts to replace liberal icon Sen. Ted Kennedy insist that the problem lies in large part with their candidate, Attorney General Martha Coakley.

Some of the Coakley criticism is specific: Scott Brown was up on the television airwaves with positive, defining ads earlier, and he held more campaign events in December after winning the nomination. But some of the complaints center on Coakley's personality and speaking style, which convey insufficient enthusiasm.

"She is not someone who is likely to go the pub and buy everyone a round, but neither is John Kerry," said Coakley supporter Lawrence DiCara, a former Boston city council member and veteran of Democratic politics in the Bay State.

"She's much more like John Kerry than she is like Ted Kennedy," he said.

Mary Anne Marsh, a Boston-based Democratic consultant not affiliated with the race, said Coakley made a "big strategic mistake" waiting to put ads on television.

Coakley allies describe her not as lacking enthusiasm but as a careful speaker, a result of years spent as a prosecutor. They say she's a hard worker, not a backslapper. By contrast Brown is called "polished," and has pulled in an online following that's earned him both cash and attention.

Similar critiques emerged in Democratic circles last fall when state Sen. Creigh Deeds was tanking in the polls in the Virginia governor's race, a problem that didn't emerge, or at least wasn't mentioned, when Deeds was polling better. Back biting goes with the territory when a campaign is struggling.

We checked in with a host of Massachusetts voters and TPMDC readers who offered their assessment of the Coakley campaign, with the most frequent description being "lackluster":

Reader BL told TPMDC that Coakley made a "huge mistake" to "basically let Brown run unimpeded from December 8 until around January 6," giving the Republican nearly a month to define himself.

Reader CF disagreed, saying the race is hinging on independents who are not happy with what's happening in Washington. "She may have run a lackluster campaign (and that is attributable to her), but any Dem would be having a hard time."

Reader BP of Boylston plans to vote for Coakley "without a shred of enthusiasm," saying her campaign feels "incredibly stale and conventional" compared with Brown's which seem "fresh and appealing by contrast."

Reader PM said Coakley was "invisible" until last week and that her fight now "looks like bitter nervousness."

Reader VS said, "There is simply no enthusiasm in the campaign" while GF claimed to be "terribly uninspired by Coakley."

Reader SD "will vote for her while holding my nose."

Additional reporting by Mark Bergen.

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January 15, 2010 12:31 PM   

that's why I voted for Capuano, she's NOT a politician, she's a prosecutor, wrong skill set

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January 15, 2010 2:42 PM    in reply to Jotham Stavely

Her own party screwed her. She could have had a shot if those in Congress had done something for average Americans, rather than just Wall Street.

Check out this exchange with Dylan Ratigan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8R8baHPr2E&feature=PlayList&p=E56F094C9CF8F974&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=77

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January 15, 2010 2:54 PM    in reply to Jotham Stavely

Call me when they poll the Southies...Those were the Kennedy strong hold ---not just Beacon hill or Suffolk County...The attempted split of Kerry /Kennedy is a republican gimmick...Doubt it will hold up! Never mind the BIG guns are showing up!!!!

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January 15, 2010 4:05 PM    in reply to Docb

My buddy's a "Southie" and he is disgusted with Dems right now. He thinks Vicki sold Teddy out on the health care bill, with her latest comments.

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January 15, 2010 6:00 PM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Why does he think that? Vicki knows and we know that Ted was the great compromiser to get things done, and having worked with his staff on certain IP related issues in the 2003 Medicare bill, I'm pretty sure he'd have thought that this bill, while not the big liberal bill some would like, is a damned good compromise.

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January 15, 2010 7:56 PM    in reply to jsdc007

Cause Ted wanted an expansion of Medicare, not more money and power for the insurance outfits that THIS bill condemns us to.

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January 16, 2010 10:00 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Kennedy was lead author and until the last stages the major negotiator on the HELP Bill. Which is reasonably similar to the Bill taking shape today. There is a reason why neither Kennedy or Dingell started writing legislation in 2009 that was NOT based on the 2007 Kennedy-Dingell Medicare for All bill. This time both of them knew they needed a deal done and not an aspiration.

Given the compromises Kennedy and Dodd made on HELP (and it was watered down plenty to cut costs) to say that he would opposed this bill is just silly nostalgia.

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January 16, 2010 10:50 AM    in reply to Bruce Webb

Are you kidding? The Kennedy-Dodd Bill is LEAGUES ahead of this piece of crap being considered!

It HAS A PUBLIC OPTION.

It provides subsidies for families at 500% of poverty, not the measly 150% proposed by this plan. That is the key to helping MIDDLE CLASS folks who actually put Obama and his Congressional cronies in office.

It also has a provision for even more subsidies for those who live in expensive urban areas of the country.

It also has no preexisting limits and doesn't even allow the insurance companies to charge more for it!

The Kennedy-Dodd bill is the compromise to expanded Medicare for all!

THIS bill being considered wasn't even written in Congress, it was written last summer in secret White House meetings with insurance and Pharma!

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January 17, 2010 1:00 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

So bring Obama down in order to punish him, then? Deny him his majority, so that in a weakened state he'll really work with the sniggering rejectionists to accomplish what you want him to?

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January 17, 2010 2:20 AM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

Man, you are taking this a little too personally! You work for the guy?

I don't give a good god damn about Obama. I am merely giving you a dose of reality. Look, I used to tend bar. I know a thing or two about "average" Joe and Jane. These people don't care about what-ifs. They are worried about where their next pay check is coming from and will it pay rent.

Obama has to get it right or they won't show up to the polls. Its simple!

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January 17, 2010 5:22 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

"You work for the guy?"

Very proudly, when I get the chance.

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January 16, 2010 12:49 PM    in reply to Docb

Uh Doc - Southie is in Suffolk Co.

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January 17, 2010 10:53 AM    in reply to Docb

Damn, I hope ur right, 60 will be tough enough in November. Obama's TARP recoup should provide ample Populist fodder to counter the Nutsuckers and there is plenty of time til November. Time to crank up OFA, pulling Coakley out of the dumpster will be bigger to the Dems than health care right now.

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January 15, 2010 3:01 PM    in reply to Jotham Stavely

Call me when they poll the Southies...Those were the Kennedy strong hold ---not just Beacon hill or Suffolk County...The attempted split of Kerry /Kennedy is a republican gimmick...Doubt it will hold up! Never mind the BIG guns are showing up!!!!

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January 15, 2010 5:27 PM    in reply to Docb

Alright, what's your number?

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January 16, 2010 11:56 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

BTW, met a lot of douche bag righties in Southie too.

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January 15, 2010 12:34 PM   

I don't get the lack of ads, at all.

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January 15, 2010 12:35 PM   

From the Boston Globe

BOSTON—A poll just days before the special Senate race in Massachusetts shows a shift in favor of the Republican Party -- a potential disaster for President Barack Obama and his Democratic political agenda.

The Suffolk University survey released late Thursday showed Scott Brown, a Republican state senator, with 50 percent of the vote in the race to succeed the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in this overwhelmingly Democratic state.

Democrat Martha Coakley had 46 percent. That was a statistical tie since it was within the poll's 4.4 percentage point margin of error, but far different from a 15-point lead Coakley, the Massachusetts attorney general, enjoyed in a Boston Globe survey released over the weekend.

The Suffolk poll also confirmed a fundamental shift in voter attitudes telegraphed in recent automated polls that Democrats had dismissed as unscientific and the product of GOP-leaning organizations.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2010/01/15/mass_senate_poll_shows_shift_toward_gop_candidate/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed1

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January 15, 2010 12:37 PM   

Coakely is in trouble in Massachusetts because the national Dems -- dominated by DLC centrists -- are in trouble. Why? They stand for nothing except not being Republicans (allegedly). Capuano would have been a far better candidate but he was deemed too progressive, especially since Obama was in the process of selling out the public option when the primary ran. So the DLC got its candidate: a lifelong prosecutor who would be just as happy -- and even more comfortable -- attacking progressive positions as advocating for them.

You shall reap just what you sow; when you stand for nothing you harvest wind.

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January 15, 2010 1:18 PM    in reply to wbgonne

There we go again. Left wing teabaggery, those progressives deluding themselves into thinking that they have something to deliver and blame everyone else but themselves for failing to do with

Self righteous pap

Dangerous delusion

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January 15, 2010 6:42 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

I'm sorry, wasn't it your party that showed up to a health care debate claiming that nooone was listening to their plan, claiming to be holding copies of that plan in their hands, and it was later discovered that those papers were BLANK?

You and your Rethugs are in no shape whatsoever to talk about delivering. All you've delivered is drama and hot air.

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January 15, 2010 1:19 PM    in reply to wbgonne

I ask the question again - if the problem is that democratic candidates aren't liberal enough, why hasn't Dennis Kucinich ascended any higher than a mediocre Congressman? Why did Howard Dean's presidential primary campaign not get past the Iowa caucuses?

Coakley's problem is that she's a bland personality who didn't bother to work hard campaigning. It's not that she's too moderate.

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January 15, 2010 1:23 PM    in reply to jdb316

Word!

All they need is a MORE liberal candidate than Coakley.


Formula for minority status and that's exactly where the whiner wing is going to take us

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January 15, 2010 1:25 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Somebody wake me when these weenies manage to actually elect one

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January 15, 2010 1:33 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

You seem to be advocating what? Moving to the right? Yeah, that'll work. It's disgusting watching the apologists constantly accusing the "progressives" (the new "L" word) of not getting it, when they clearly get it very well. Moving to the right gives us Joe Lieberman. How's that worked out for ya?

If the Dems spent less time trying to be Republicans they might actually have a chance to implement REAL change, not this chump change we've been handed. If (when) Coakley loses this race, you and your DLC buddies will finally have things going back where you want them.

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January 15, 2010 1:39 PM    in reply to EastWest

No I am advocating that the weenie wing of the Democratic party STFU and stop the self-righteous pitiable posturing.


A good place to begin - surrender the post of Grand Inquisitors of Progressive Orthodoxy

The next step - stop drawing stoopid lines in the sand

You can't be sold out if you don't have anything to sell


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January 15, 2010 1:42 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Well, we have votes. Which you are now learning.

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January 15, 2010 1:44 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

and if I never here our self appointed progressive leaders cackle "PRIMARY THE BASTARD" again it will be too soon

Ezra Klein: Political Science for Amateurs http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/political_science_for_amateurs.html

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January 15, 2010 1:48 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

You ain't seen nothin yet.

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January 16, 2010 12:00 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Classic. No answers, just more name calling. Where are you on NAFTA, WTO, job creation, health care, Iraq, Afghanistan, torture, FISA, etc...etc...?

I'm all ears. I can tell you exactly where I am and have on many occasions. I kind of liked what CANDIDATE Obama had to say on these issues.

How about you? Or are you just one of the hired DLC stormtroopers?

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January 16, 2010 1:31 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Another 9 to 5 patriot. STFU? My, my! Is that how they operate in Chicago politics?

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January 15, 2010 3:49 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

I think it's the nature of the beast. There have been several AGs that tried to run for higher office in the state, and they have all lost, thus far. It may be that they all came from the ranks of the prosecutor's office, and moved up to AG as the career path. Unfortunately, it may be that what makes them good prosecutors, and a good candidate for AG, as a result, means they don't have the personality type to be successful in any other races. I'd be interested if the same dynamic appears in any other states.

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January 16, 2010 11:31 AM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Yeah, so what do you got? I haven't seen one solid solution from you. You satisfied with the direction of the Democratic party?

Where do you stand on Gramm, Leach, Bliley and NAFTA? How about WTO? Do you favor a universal public health care plan for ALL Americans? Just give us something to go on.

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January 15, 2010 1:27 PM    in reply to jdb316

Well, those are interesting questions and they require more extended answers than I can give here and now. We must remember, though, that the country had been resolutely conservative for about 40 years, up until Bush demonstrated once and for all that an anti-government philosophy cannot succeed in governance. (Duh.) Coakely is an establishment Democrat and a lifelong prosecutor. She is a conservadem (at least within Massachusetts' bounds). Capuano would have fired people up but even he would have a problem b/c much of what Capuano and progressives stand for has been rejected by the Est Dems, including Obama. So here we are.

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January 15, 2010 2:10 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Capuano couldn't even win a Democratic primary but you claim he would have fired up people for the general. STFU!

Coakley and Capuano are ideologically two peas in a pod.

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January 15, 2010 2:19 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Capuano didn't win because Obama cut him off at the knees when he abandoned the public option. And cheerleading Obamatons like you enabled it.

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January 15, 2010 2:25 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Except for the fact that the public option was still in both bills when they had the primary and Capuano lost badly. LOL.

I don't know why you keep changing your excuses since all are equally stupid.

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January 15, 2010 2:27 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Please try to stay in reality. The public option was dead and Obama killed it and everybody knew it (except you, evidently).

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January 15, 2010 2:31 PM    in reply to wbgonne

I'll stay in reality if you promise to visit occasionally. Your posts make clear you haven't been there in decades.

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January 16, 2010 11:54 AM    in reply to wbgonne

These righties seem to be getting a little testy. STFU? Whatever does it mean?

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January 16, 2010 12:08 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Here's their guy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Geithner

This is the face of the Walmart wing of the Democratic party.

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January 15, 2010 1:36 PM    in reply to jdb316

Because he concerned himself more with quixotic runs for President than with climbing the ladder in Congress, where he could have had considerable clout by now. He certainly has the seniority.

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January 15, 2010 2:13 PM    in reply to Steaming Pile

Kucinich doesn't have any clout in Congress because he a joke! Nobody takes him seriously because he is so ineffective for the causes in which he believes. He's too busy taking bullshit grandstands to actually do anything.


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January 15, 2010 2:16 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Good work, Deranged Whale. You and your DLC ilk have put Teddy Kennedy's seat in jeopardy. Keep it up.

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January 15, 2010 2:18 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Anything you say. Of course, what you say changes every 2 minutes.

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January 16, 2010 12:03 PM    in reply to FreeRider

"NO WE CAN'T"!

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January 16, 2010 12:24 PM    in reply to jdb316

She is the "Party" candidate, that is why she is in trouble. BTW, I think she WILL win. This is more media manipulation and hype perpetuated by the Dems. Its a classic move to motivate the base. Its a time honored tradition that appeals to the media folk because it generates the "conflict" they need to drive ratings.

Question is, HOW MUCH will she win by? She has to post impressive numbers in such a blue state to be a credible win for Dems. She can't just squeak by for them to feel confident in their base for November's elections.

The base of the party is upset, This is a party power struggle between the Progressive wing and the DLC wing (Clintonista).

I believe it will result in a fractured party by next November if people don't see HUGE improvements in job creation and REAL public buy in to a health care system they feel is really working for them.

I'm just saying THIS health care plan ain't gonna do it. Nobody worth caring about, politically, will benefit from this bill. And by that, I mean the ever shrinking middle class.

The only moderate bill that could have saved the Dems would have been the Kennedy-Dodd bill.

The one being considered here is a mere shadow of that ALREADY compromised piece.

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January 16, 2010 2:34 PM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Unfortunately, there was no way anything more progressive was going to get enough votes to avert a filibuster. And reconciliation would have been very difficult with a bill this complex - it would have had to be broken into parts, and the reconciliation process would have taken even longer with all of the amendments the Republicans would have introduced out of sheer spite. Would even 51 democrats have had the stomach to stick together through all of that? And even if they had, the spending authorization would have had to be renewed after five years - by which point the Republicans may very well have re-taken control of the Senate.

Sadly, thanks to both mistakes of the White House's making in not selling its message aggresively enough from the beginning and the Senate's debate rules, this is the best we can do for now. Better to start with this and add to it later than to torpedo the whole thing and have to wait another 15-20 years to start from the very beginning.

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January 16, 2010 3:25 PM    in reply to jdb316

Sadly, I don't think the was any "mistake" by the White House. They were committed to preserving the existing insurance and pharma industries rather than reforming them. They actually allowed them to WRITE this bill last summer.

This is exactly why I don't see this bill ever getting any better. The Obama plan simply delivers more taxpayer money to PRIVATE corporations and this money will only serve to strengthen the industries stranglehold on our Legislative and Executive branches of government.

Believe me, I admire your optimism. I too once believed in Mr. Obama. I actually got out and canvassed for him and donated money I could have used to pay debts.

It was a real heartbreak when I saw how he began to shape his cabinet and policies. I hope I'm wrong, but my 30+ years watching politics, tells me I'm not.

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January 16, 2010 3:42 PM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

The concept of, "take it now, build it later" isn't going to do enough in the short term to save the Dems. People are hurting (physically and monetarily) and they won't be looking at this philosophically.

Philosophy is for the healthy and wealthy. Americans, vote their pocketbooks and when they see this bill sucking money from them, for no discernible gain, they will revolt at the polls.

I hope I am wrong and this economy does a 180. I hope we get to 6% unemployment by November, but I gotta tell ya, without significant government jobs programs like FDR got going, this ain't gonna happen.

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January 17, 2010 1:04 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

This reminds me strongly: A year ago some Dems on here were insisting that the stimulus was ruinous and that "I gotta tell ya" one year later the dollar would be entirely destroyed.

Unemployment does not need to be 6% to win in 2010. People like you need to rip apart their clothing less and work for success more.

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January 17, 2010 2:14 AM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

All theoretical. Trust me, average "Joe" ain't gonna see it like that.

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January 17, 2010 3:16 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Are you better off than you were two years ago? I hope you are correct. I hope most of the unemployed will still feel good about the direction of this country.

I doubt it. Just look at Obama's approval ratings now. Already below 50%. Not to mention Congressional ratings! Something has got to change for the better in a big way by November.

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January 17, 2010 3:45 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

The stimulus isn't working! Why do you think Obama is frantically coming up with this new bank tax crap?

He knows he choked!

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January 17, 2010 5:36 AM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

No. Because the first of those two years was the culmination of the very worst (or nearly very worst) Presidency in U.S. history. Obama had to, and did, save the economy from resultant catastrophe. I recognize that not everyone is grateful and far from it, but I very much am.

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January 17, 2010 1:59 PM    in reply to Overreach THIS!

You must work on Wall Street?

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January 16, 2010 4:01 PM    in reply to jdb316

I got two words for ya, "MACHINE POLITICS". It is antithetical to independents to operate in this fashion and that is their problem. Perot is the last third party guy to make a respectable run for it, but he was largely self funded.

The Dean and Obama campaigns have provided a new way forward regarding funding, previously unknown.

This is going to bring indys on both sides to the fore with more disciplined organizations and more money! Ironically, Obamas rise could lead to the Democrats demise.

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January 16, 2010 4:07 PM    in reply to jdb316

I got two words for ya, "MACHINE POLITICS". It is antithetical to independents to operate in this fashion and that is their problem. Perot is the last third party guy to make a respectable run for it, but he was largely self funded.

The Dean and Obama campaigns have provided a new way forward regarding funding, previously unknown.

This is going to bring indys on both sides to the fore with more disciplined organizations and more money! Ironically, Obamas rise could lead to the Democrats demise.

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January 15, 2010 1:22 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Capuano wasn't deemed too progressive, he was deemed a jerk after his performance in the debates. On policy he and Coakley are almost identical.

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January 15, 2010 1:29 PM    in reply to midnight rambler

No they aren't "nearly identical" on the issues. Capuana is a member of the progressive caucus. He is a proud Massachusetts liberal just like Ted Kennedy was. Coakley is a DLC conservadem.

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January 15, 2010 1:39 PM    in reply to wbgonne

I get the same impression. Capuano was more of a working class Democrat.

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January 15, 2010 1:45 PM    in reply to Tanjaoui

Capuano got screwed when Obama sold out the progressive cause and marginalized progressives like Capuano.

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January 15, 2010 2:17 PM    in reply to wbgonne

If, as you claim, the people of MA want a firebrand liberal and Capuano is a firebrand liberal (as opposed to Conservadem Coakley) why did Capuano get beat like a rented mule among Democratic primary voters who tend to be very liberal?

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January 15, 2010 2:29 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I already explained that to you.

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January 15, 2010 2:30 PM    in reply to wbgonne

No, you didn't. You posted a string of words that couldn't pass for a coherent thought.

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January 15, 2010 1:56 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Yes, let's idealize the guys who aren't running, and give up on the Coakley campaign for being insufficiently inspiring. That's helpful. A majority of voters in the primary voted for someone else - that's kind of unavoidable in a 4-way race in which every candidate has some strengths. So most of us voted (and volunteered) for someone else last month, myself included. Sucks to lose. Got it.

But Martha won, and it's her or Scott Brown. We don't get a do-over because the Coakley campaign isn't as good as it could be. Are you going to help turn out voters to stop the GOP? Or sit on the sidelines and bitch?

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January 15, 2010 1:59 PM    in reply to David Sloane

Are you going to help turn out voters to stop the GOP? Or sit on the sidelines and bitch?

I haven't decided. But I'll tell you this: I am sick of voting for Dems just to "stop the GOP."

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January 15, 2010 7:48 PM    in reply to wbgonne

So run for office. Or get involved early in a campaign.

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January 16, 2010 2:12 AM    in reply to David Sloane

Definitely! Get on board with ANY third party candidate you can get behind.

Look a the New York 23 race. The indy candidate came within 2% of the machine candidate, who ultimately won. He killed the Repub candidate by 40 points!

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January 15, 2010 8:21 PM    in reply to wbgonne

You are a fucking liar. You are no goddamned democrat. You know if you are going to lie you'd better have a good memory and you wbgonne are busted. Your cheerleading for the repuglican party gave you away long ago. Who the fuck do you think you are kidding. Free Rider is smarter and more knowledgeable than you when he's unconscious.

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January 15, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to wbgonne

What a stupid comparison since you can't be a member of the progressive caucus if you're not in Congress! Coakley is nothing even remotely close to a conservadem. You're just making shit up.

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January 15, 2010 2:18 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I say this with all confidence. You don't have a clue about MA politics. Normally, that's a good reason to keep quiet.

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January 15, 2010 2:21 PM    in reply to wbgonne

That's what you say when you've been pwned and outed as an idiot. Keep making a fool of yourself by spouting total crap.

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January 15, 2010 2:06 PM    in reply to wbgonne

yes this is precisely why independents are shifting to the Republicans in boatloads, because the Democrats aren't progressive enough.

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January 15, 2010 2:15 PM    in reply to dtOZONE

I assume that was intended as sarcasm. Funny because it is actually true. At least Republicans stand for SOMETHING.

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January 15, 2010 8:24 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Spoken like a real democrat? Republicans stand for something alright. They stand for racism, ignorance, tea parties and obstructionism to name just a few. You are such a liar it is pathetic.

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January 15, 2010 11:43 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Sorry, but you are a moron. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Coakley - for prosecutorial decisions, being a Beacon Hill insider, running a weak campaign - but being too conservative is not one of them.

- Please show me a "DLC conservadem" who says they would vote against the HCR bill if it contains the Stupak amendment, as Coakley did (granted even all but the left-most progressives would swallow hard and vote for it anyway). Most of them voted FOR the amendment to be added.

- Give ONE substantive policy (not style) difference between Coakley and Capuano.

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January 15, 2010 2:31 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Huh??? Are you serious? You think this is because Martha is not progressive enough? Did I read this wrong or are you delusional? This is a referendum on Progressivism. What you don't understand is that the American electorate are not very bright. Most truly could not tell you if Republicans want to open our shores to offshore drilling or if it's Democrats. Most don't know what a progressive is (Socialist), but because the media is loaded with progressives, the electorate knows that Conservatives are bad, even though they have no idea what a conservative is.

Progressives have done a terrific job at keeping the people ill informed about the Progressive agenda and making conservatism radioactive, something to stay away from. Progressives big mistake was not realizing that the electorate was actually looking for someone more way conservative than George Bush. Many ill informed voters bought into the media hype and thought they were getting someone that represented traditional American conservativism. They had no idea they were voting for Socialism.

You're 2nd biggest mistake was dismissing the tea parties publicly, although privately you realized there was an overwhelming mass of humanity that was rising up. I don't believe for a second that any progressive really believed that only 75K showed up in Washington DC. For the record, now that it's obvious that the same movement that is getting Scott Brown elected is the same movement that put a million and a half people in Washington DC on Sept 12th 2009. I understand why you openly dismissed it, you're hoping to keep as many people as you can ignorant by polarizing the movement and making it radioactive, but you had to realize it was going to backfire.

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January 15, 2010 12:40 PM   

It's the Obama effect - all Dem politicians are held up to his campaign. If folks don't get "a tingle up their leg" it means the candidate is a bad one.

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January 15, 2010 12:45 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

Coakely really is a lousy candidate a la John Kerry. But I think the real problem is with the party and its leadership. Coakely has nothing to tun on other than not being a Republican. People voted the Dems in across the board a year ago and what have we received in return? Republican-lite.

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January 15, 2010 1:05 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Word

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January 15, 2010 1:25 PM    in reply to wbgonne

And now that want full-strength Republican.

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January 15, 2010 1:43 PM    in reply to FreeRider

No, but the base's involvement wanes when they don't see enough progress or too much overlap with Republican policy.

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January 15, 2010 1:50 PM    in reply to Tanjaoui

Yes, and insulting the base is great motivation. Not.

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January 17, 2010 3:38 PM    in reply to Tanjaoui

If they screwed up, maybe you could help. Maybe that's in your interest. And in the national interest.

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January 15, 2010 12:41 PM   

Massachusetts will get the Senator they deserve.

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January 16, 2010 3:29 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

And America will pay the price.

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January 15, 2010 12:46 PM   

It's a pretty sad statement on the abuse of the filibuster when a reduction of the Democrats' caucus from 60 votes to 59 could have the same consequences as the Republicans taking over the Senate in 1994.

If not for the filibuster, having 59 Democrats in the Senate would be absolutely awesome.

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January 15, 2010 1:35 PM    in reply to tinmanic

If not for Harry Reid's lack of gonads, having 51 Dems would be a God-send.

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January 15, 2010 12:47 PM   

Please...let's get Big Scotty Brown in the Senate, and let him at least try to fumigate & disinfect Massachesetts.

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January 15, 2010 12:48 PM    in reply to Sailormarlowe

He'll be a one-termer is he wins. He is truly a neanderthal who should be running in Alabama. (No offense -- Roll Tide!)

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January 15, 2010 12:51 PM    in reply to Sailormarlowe

You keep talking about his "size"...preoccupied much?
Funny that you never mention substance. Same thing when you talk about Palin. But that's not surprising. There's nothing there.

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January 15, 2010 1:38 PM    in reply to mrCurmudgeon

Both posers, for sure --she in beauty pagents and he in the buff -- but never underestimate the tendency of American voters to be distracted by shiny objects. (And I'm including Obama.)

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January 15, 2010 12:56 PM   

One Massachusetts Poll That Democrats Shouldn't Panic About
by Nate Silver @ 11:24 AM

Worry about Suffolk. Worry about what PPP and Rasmussen are going to have to say over the weekend. But for the love of God, don't worry about the Pajamas Media poll which reports a 15 point lead for Scott Brown, which I'm not going to do the favor of posting a link to.

The poll was conducted by a firm connected with the Black Rock Group, which bills itself as a "strategic communications and public affairs firm" and whose chief spokesman/strategist, Carl Forti, just so happens to be the spokesman for this polling firm that nobody has ever heard of and just so happens (as David Dayen dutifully reports) to be the spokesman for a big pharma lobbying group that's pushed the death panels meme and just so happens to be the lead PR flak for Pajamas Media.

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January 15, 2010 12:58 PM   

Yeah, Kerry was such a lousy candidate. Won statewide in Massachusetts six times, nearly won the presidency against an extremely well-organized incumbent campaign. Why are Democrats always held to a higher standard?

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January 15, 2010 1:00 PM    in reply to TrivTriv

I'm sorry to bust your bubble but Kerry ran one of the worst presidential campaigns in history. That's why he lost.

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January 15, 2010 1:41 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Sorry to bust YOUR bubble, but EVEN THOUGH he ran a terrible campaign, Kerry lost because the Ohio ReThugs stole the election with "defective" voting machines and other vote-stealing techniques (like have two precincts in one gymnasium, not enough capacity in Democratic strongholds, etc.)

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January 15, 2010 1:43 PM    in reply to Cal Gal

Uh-huh.

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January 15, 2010 8:36 PM    in reply to wbgonne

For someone who is supposed to be a democrat., you sure hate them and defend the republicans. As I said, in order to lie, you need to have a good memory, and yours sucks because you keep sticking your foot in your lying mouth.,

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January 15, 2010 1:05 PM   

I live in Massachusetts and Scott Brown is a one trick pony/phoney. He is opposed to anything that would be good for the people of Massachusetts, yet, anything for big business is ok with. I think Martha will pull this off because the idea of this clown winning is repugnant to most. Say what you want about Coakley, but she has been a good AG and has gotten some terrific convictions as such.....especially where abuses have taken place against the citizenry of Mass.

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January 15, 2010 1:29 PM    in reply to sconset

you seem to be forgetting that Patick is the first Dem Governor we've had for the 20 years I've lived in MA. A himbo like Brown can easily win a statewide race in this 'progressive' state (Romney anyone?)when matched up against a personality-deficient candidate from the Dems

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January 15, 2010 1:36 PM    in reply to sconset

Convictions like in the Big Dig debacle? She sold us out to Bechtel and all of the other big money contractors. She broke the balls of the smallest pea in the pod and made it sound like the score of the century.

Like a lot of others, I'll vote for her if only because I can't stand Brown and not because she's got at least one ideal that I share with her.

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January 15, 2010 1:22 PM   

I've seen this happen a number of times here in SF where we have very late candidate filings

Angry electorate...big favorite sucks air and money out of race..big lead..last minute entry by for sorry ass politician....just enough time to pull in that anger before the luster wears off


The result...the guy skyrockets in the polls in the last 3-4 weeks and comes close or wins

That for all the world looks like what has happened here

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January 15, 2010 1:28 PM   

"She is not someone who is likely to go the pub and buy everyone a round ...."

Trying to compete with Teddy's image relative to anything associated with pubs is a losing battle from the get-go, isn't it?

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January 15, 2010 1:28 PM   

Kerry would be destroying Brown in this race though. Enough people like him. No one like Martha Coakley.

I gotta agree with the poster before - Capuano or Markey would be destroying Brown.

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January 15, 2010 1:47 PM    in reply to GermanyOrFlorida

Coakley won AG with 73% of the vote. Kinda hard to do if no one likes you.

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January 15, 2010 1:49 PM    in reply to FreeRider

You don;t know the first thing about Massachusetts, do you?

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January 15, 2010 1:53 PM    in reply to wbgonne

No, he doesn't.

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January 15, 2010 2:06 PM    in reply to wbgonne

You don't know the first thing about your own ass, do you? Here's a hint: It's the place you store your head.

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January 15, 2010 4:41 PM    in reply to FreeRider

So, how's second grade treating you this year?

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January 16, 2010 1:29 PM    in reply to FreeRider

You know what I find very telling? You can tell there are a lot of staffers and PR folks posting here by the way they fall silent on the weekends.

9 to 5 patriots.

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January 16, 2010 7:43 PM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Actually, it's because I try to actually stay off my computer on the weekends. I'm supposed to be having a life on the weekends.

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January 17, 2010 2:59 AM    in reply to again

Clearly you are not a party insider. But I do admire your work ethic!

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January 15, 2010 1:47 PM   

The first sentence of this article is spot-on. I won't pretend Coakley ran a perfect campaign, but it wasn't her job to promote Brown, so she was quiet. Everyone wants to seem smart and criticize her; It's irrational panic and it's feeding the idea that he an win this election. If you live in MA like I do, you need to encourage people to vote. There is no way a majority of MA voters would support this guy knowing his record. More voters=Coakley win.

I have a feeling that those of you who are feeding into this are the same people who mocked the "kill the bill" progressives.

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January 15, 2010 1:53 PM    in reply to whitesauce

Listen to Coakley's ads. She's running on nothing. She doesn't even mention HCR because MA Dems are so disgusted by what the EstDems did to the legislation.

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January 15, 2010 2:08 PM    in reply to wbgonne

What's your point? Candidates don't typically run issues-driven ads at the end of a campaign. She hasn't run from her record. Meanwhile, Brown is the pro-choice candidate that's supported by pro-life organizations; He doesn't want to discuss the Tea Party movement; and he can't remember writing an amendment to a rape bill that allowed medical staff to deny emergency contraception. This is not about a poorly-run campaign; This is about a candidate who's portrayed himself as a moderate, DESPITE his record.

Even Brown knows now that if the Democratic base gets energized, which an Obama appearance may very well do, this whole election could flip. The assessments made in this forum about unhappy voters, bad campaigning and Obama backlash is entirely exaggerated.

See you Tuesday!

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January 15, 2010 2:11 PM    in reply to whitesauce

The assessments made in this forum about unhappy voters, bad campaigning and Obama backlash is entirely exaggerated

Then why is Obama now coming?

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January 15, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to wbgonne

Energizing the base. A higher turnout favors Coakley.

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January 15, 2010 1:52 PM   

Then why did Dems overwhelmingly nominate her a couple months ago? They obvious DO like her.

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January 15, 2010 1:58 PM    in reply to ilovebacon

The other primary candidates were even more dull and lifeless in the debates and on the stump than she was. Capuano is more progressive, but he turned off a lot of people with his sharp tongue and offering no reason to vote for him other than having worked with Kennedy for eons. Coakley was in the enviable position of not having to screw up to win. She did that....and then tried to coast to the finish line. Not much of a plan and the results are what we have today.

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January 15, 2010 1:53 PM   

Martha Coakley is dull and boring, just what you would expect from a DA. Dems in Mass had a chance to support Rep. Capuano, a far more exciting and left of center figure, but they went for Coakley instead. Women were her strongest suit. Hopefully they will come out en masse for her.

Of course, Obama and his so-called health reform bill has been a disaster. Enough people are unhappy with it. He should have stayed with a jobs program. After all, if you had to choose one, what would you prefer--a job or health care?

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January 15, 2010 1:57 PM    in reply to drwu

I agree. Coakely is a lackluster candidate but in a normal environment she'd be a shoo-in anyway. In one year, Obama and the DLC Dems have turned MA Dems against the party. You fight for nothing and no one fights for you.

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January 15, 2010 2:00 PM    in reply to drwu

health care

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January 15, 2010 2:10 PM    in reply to drwu

Jobs.

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January 15, 2010 1:58 PM   

Just heard:

Obama IS going to Massachusetts.

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January 15, 2010 2:00 PM    in reply to RhodaA

Reeks of the smell of desperation.

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January 15, 2010 2:09 PM    in reply to RhodaA

That's great. Here's what he should say when he gets here:

I understand your disappointment with the heath care reform effort. We had to make many compromises I didn't want and the legislation is far less progressive than it should be. Most importantly, there should be a public option, just as I said all along. I know you are disappointed but I assure you that we Democrats in Washington have learned our lesson. I promise you that, from this moment until the end of my presidency, I will fight for the change I promised you during the campaign. I ask that you please vote for Martha Coakley and give us another chance.

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January 15, 2010 2:02 PM   

Coakley was late on the air for two reasons, both of which were/are very credible:

1. Here in MA, the general election is usually a mere formality. The real contest is for the Democratic nomination. The day after the primary local media was all about Coakley's victory and kinds of mentioned in passing that, oh yeah, there was a Republican primary too and that some guy names "Brown" had won it. Until recent polls suggested a tightening race, the elections was generally thought to be all over, except for the coronation.

2. Coakley is a statewide elective office holder who had just come off a brief, dynamic primary race in which millions of money were spent on media buys. She and her policies were already known to the public. Running ads between Thanksgiving and Christmas would have been a colossal waste of funds. Better to save her ad buys for after the holidays. Brown didn't have the same luxury, he had to introduce himself to the public before he could be framed by the Dems.

In the end, I still think this is all much ado about next to nothing. It’s my sense that the pollsters are struggling to model a very low turnout election, consequently, their results are all over the map as they struggle to find the right mix of likely voters. Scott Brown is a non-entity whose only strong support is from the small, but local tea-bagging idiots in the Commonwealth. Forget about independents - they don't vote in special elections - as long as the Dems don't stay home, this one is in the bag.

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January 15, 2010 2:10 PM    in reply to Chesire111

You said it much better than I've been able to. Thank you!

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January 15, 2010 2:05 PM   

Could we at least hold off on telling the world how terrible she is until after the election?

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January 15, 2010 2:09 PM   

In the end, I still think this is all much ado about next to nothing.

The White House begs to differ.

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January 15, 2010 2:12 PM    in reply to Schmed

If Obama thought it was too risky, he wouldn't go. He obviously thinks Coakley will benefit if they can get out the vote.

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January 15, 2010 2:23 PM    in reply to Schmed

That's because they don't want to take a chance of Dems staying home out of a sense of complacency while the highly motivated minority seizes a win here. It's all about turnout, in that sense, I think the Republicans are the ones making the strategic mistake.

By raising the profile of this race, they have given up the chance of a suprise victory. Dems have rallied, money and talent is pouring into the Commonwealth, voter interest and consequently turnout will be higher than would have been the case and there is no chance of Brown's insurgency successfully staging a coup.

They should have kept things quiet.

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January 15, 2010 2:19 PM   

An unfortunate habit of the Democratic Party - something the Republicans are better at avoiding - is that it eats its wounded. Let's not have a meltdown just yet. Turn the anxiety into intensity - show up at a phone bank - hold a sign - and show up on Tuesday to vote for Coakley.

In the same spirit, I'm perplexed by the gratuitous swipe at Kerry - a great senator. With few exceptions, Democrats seem to take enormous pleasure in tearing down their failed presidential candidates. Why? Does it advance liberal aims to make John Kerry the butt of a joke? I don't get it.

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January 15, 2010 2:26 PM    in reply to alexchilton

Don't forget that Nixon lost to Kennedy (hell, he even lost in a CA gubenatorial election), Reagan lost to Ford and Bush the Elder lost to Reagan before eventually winning teh White House. Had they been Democrats, all three would have been disowned after their first defeats.

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January 15, 2010 3:58 PM   

OK, I am going to show my ignorance and ask why is it considered she will loose when she is up by 6-8 points? What has ben going on with this race? From what i have read, she has ran a terribly campaign.

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January 15, 2010 4:18 PM   

The Democratic base thinks no Democratic candidate is liberal enough and that all defeats are the result of insufficient leftism. Cue the apocryphal quotation from Harry Truman about real and fake Democrats. Independent voters have a different and opposite set of concerns, among them fear that budget deficits will drag the country into bankruptcy, and that the health care bill has turned into a special interest monstrosity. The latest fillip, the excise tax on "Cadillac" plans--unless such plans are for union members in which case they get a magic exemption--symbolizes the latter concern.

Independents don't like this. They demonstrated this in NJ and VA last November. It is also being demonstrated in MA. Martha Coakley is also a bad campaigner with an atrocious record in some respects. Read Dorothy Rabinowitz in today's Wall Street Journal on the hideous Amirault case for example. But really, the Democrats' problem is not bad campaigners. It is that independent voters have turned right in reaction to the Obama program

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January 15, 2010 4:31 PM    in reply to liberalcentrist

Dude, I AM a Massachusetts independent and you are DEAD WRONG. We are disgusted because Obama hasn't been what he promised he would be: a transformative president who will right the ship after the Worst President in History and the political party that hates government (except wars and prisons). The right turn is only because there is nowhere else to go. Yes, the HCR process has been hideous but that was mostly because the Dems were selling out their base -- never a pretty sight.

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January 15, 2010 4:43 PM   

Dude
You may be an independent in terms of your voter registration but you are actually a left-liberal. Nothing wrong with that but don't confuse your beliefs with those of the independent voters in VA and NJ who voted for Obama in 2008 and then voted for McDonnell and Christie last month. If MA elects Scott Brown next Tuesday and thus kill health care reform(Barney Frank) it won't be because voters in Wellesley and Concord have moved to the left.

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January 15, 2010 8:30 PM    in reply to liberalcentrist

Are you kidding me - wbgonne a left liberal. He's a republican without a doubt. He thinks their great and the dems are shit. How does that make him a left liberal???

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January 15, 2010 9:14 PM    in reply to lousgirl84

wbgonne is a notorious rightwing troll

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January 15, 2010 4:53 PM   

There is something incredibly wrong when a party which swept the elections a year ago is now about to suffer a SPECTACULAR defeat to a Gooper male centerfold, who mouths the same old rightist platitudes.

I am furious at the Dems' ineptitude and their go-along, get-along sellouts and capitulations. I thought that this type of defeat would smarten them up but I doubt it. This is what happens when you fuck your base.

I wasn't going to bother voting, but I will hold my nose and do it. Also if Brown is elected, I take comfort that he won't hold the seat long. He has to run in 2012 for a full six year term and by then the good people of Massachusetts will shitcan him.

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January 15, 2010 5:39 PM   

Such are the lessons of not taking anything for granted.

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January 15, 2010 5:54 PM   

If Scott Brown wins this senate race, i assume that he will be only be there for one term because he would be up for re-election in 2012. If he gets elected he will be doing a flip flop on some issues because he would be representing ultra liberal Massachusetts whom has had Republican Governors, which it will still be a blue state, because in my opinion Martha Coakley is running a very negative campaign which backfired in the 2008 Presidental Election, for example; going to a Washington fundraiser with the health care industry lobbyists, who voters do not like because it is Washington as usual, and not staying in Massachusetts. I predict that if Scott Brown gets elected, be will disapoint his far right base and be a centrist, like other Republicans in New England, whom are willing to work with Democrats and I believe that he would vote more with Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins from Maine than the Tea Parties favorites like Jim DeMint and Marco Rubio, and would probably be more to the left on issues of Abortion, maybe Civil Rights Issues, Environmental issues, Environmental Protection, vote for Democrats judicial nominees unless if the nominee is too liberal,some social issues like a typical New England Repubican, and be a advocate for the poor. he would be definately be on the right on the Economy, Health Care, National Security, and Social Security. If he does what I have listed here think he could have a chance to win a full term by a large margin even in Liberal Massachusetts whom a Republican named William Weld had with 70% of the vote, great examples of Democratic Politicans has achieved this like Kent Conrad and Bryon Dorgan of North Dakota, Ben Nelson who is in a very conservative state of Nebraska, Tim Johnson of South Dakota and Mark Pryor of Arkansas,who had no opposition in 2008, and all I listed won by double digits in their very conservative states.

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January 16, 2010 12:40 AM   

will disapoint his far right base and be a centrist,

Not a chance. Didn't you read the Specter piece on the
pressures that come to bear on all GOP pols, to fall in line?
Brown would do exactly what he's told, but that isn't necessary because of his doctrinaire approach to issues.

Brown will be no different than Cornyn. He'll just have a Ma accent.

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January 16, 2010 2:01 AM   

One thing Dems are doing smart right now, is to generate and play up these polls putting Coakley behind. This is all they can do at the moment to rally the diehard Mass Dems.

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January 16, 2010 8:20 AM   

My all-time favorite metric from the past year is that 38% of voters want government to keep its hands off of Medicare. It made a lot of things easier to understand. What it means is that at least 38% of the electorate is both as dumb as rocks and mistrustful of government. The latter quality engenders a natural affinity for the Republican Party, and I think, confers an automatic advantage. Thus, Democrats are always in a struggle to win a supermajority of thinking people. It's the same in Massachuetts.

Massachusetts does have it's share of idiots, but I will be shocked if it turns out there are enough to elect the likes of Scott Brown.

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January 16, 2010 1:27 PM   

You know what I find very telling? You can tell there are a lot of staffers and PR folks posting here by the way they fall silent on the weekends.

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January 16, 2010 2:06 PM   

So, I know I'm a lurker, but I noticed quite a bit of hatred up-thread... it reminded me of an inquisition of sorts.

A bit of background on me, so you can know where I'm coming from:
* I'm an independent (I hate partisan politics 0although I think I understand why it is the way it is)
* I'm caucasian, have a BS degree, but I'm not yet 30.
* I've lived in MA for most of my life.
* My top 3 political turn-ons are education, universal healthcare and scientific research (which I'll through 'green'/'renewable' energy/climate stuff under)
* My biggest political turn-off are claims of lowering taxes (it's a claim with no substance) and demonizing people who are on welfare as being lazy parasites; sure, these people exist, but there are a lot of people, especially in this economy, who don't. It's a cheap shot and disgusting; also, trickle-down economics - or, feudalism, to call it by its original name.
* Having studied project management/implementation, the idea of either big or small government/spending is anathema. What's more important is creating success criteria, and judging a project by that criteria, not just opposing something because it 'costs too much.'

Okay, wow, that was a lot (and I even cut some!), so I'm sorry. Back on track: Going on some sort of angst-ridden partisan inquisition seems counterproductive. Whether someone is a democrat, republican or independent does not automatically make them a terrible person, unworthy of respect: Their actions determine that.

On this topic, as a longtime Massachusetts resident, I think Coakley will win. She won the primary handedly, and I think people are discounting what I'lll call the Hillary Clinton effect. A lot of women would really like to see a woman in the seat, especially the older women. Personally, I don't think this is a good reason to vote for someone, but it will be a factor. That said, I did tell people that the primary was the real election, so this 'closeness' has caught me by surprise... but, I agree with people that this media push will probably just confirm Coakley's win. "Liberals" who aren't as committed to voting as myself, despite disliking Coakley because her ideals seem to be motivated purely by political aspirations (see: Fells Acre), are probably going to make sure they vote, now.

By the same token, a majority of the 'tea partiers' who support Brown are just as likely to not show up to vote as 'Obama's disenfranchised youth.' I don't think they are more or less likely to vote as they have been in the past; especially if it seems like their candidate is in the lead. A lot of them just went to the tea parties because they could take the day off from work and get free beer, according to the few that I knew. :)

I preferred Capuano's stances and have friends who have met him, who corroborated his story. He possibly could've done a better job of motivating the youth to vote; he does have a strong connection to Somerville. That said, I think Coakley just had way more money, coupled with the Hillary Clinton effect in the primary. To be fair, superficially, all of the democratic candidates seemed to be exactly the same.

Meanwhile, as someone said above, many people don't really look into the issues; after all, they're already busy with their lives. So when this guy says, "Hey, I'm just like the dems in terms of social liberties, but I'm going to lower taxes, too! Oh, and that healthcare bill? Even the house democrats say it sucks - so why would I vote for it? I'm going to take us back to the drawing board," while, under the table, spreading the idea that Coakley wants to raise taxes on people to "give more money to the welfare parasites who can't be bothered to find a job"... it's going to pique interest. Especially if people don't take the time to dig deeper. He's done a good job of differentiating himself from the intransigence of the Republican party, even if he can't explain why he voted for a similar bill in MA, and how by not pushing this current bill through, MA will likely be screwed out state budget relief because our medical legislation will continue to require purely state funding or some such. (To be fair, I don't know the specifics here, but it seems fairly logical. That said, legislation is rarely logical.)

So, yeah. I think Coakley is going to win; probably by a slim margin. Poor woman is probably freaking out right now, though - I can't even imagine what she must be going through. Well, I guess I can, but only microcosm-ly. I'm going to do my part and volunteer some time at a local phone bank tomorrow.

But this idea that primaries and elections are fairly won, or that members of the DNC are paragons of morality and to suspect them of foul play is treason, and demonstrative of how worthless your opinion is... check out Plouffe's book.

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January 16, 2010 4:04 PM    in reply to Philibusted


Yeah, yeah Davis Square! Is the Sligo still there?

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January 17, 2010 2:18 PM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Not sure; I can't recall the Sligo. Most of my money was spent at JP Licks and Diesel. :(

But that new hamburger place was pretty good. Never did get around to trying that Mr. Crepes place.

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January 17, 2010 2:32 PM    in reply to Philibusted

Yeah, I'm an old-timer, I guess. It was just a crappy "Irish" bar on elm.

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January 17, 2010 2:54 PM    in reply to JorgeOrwell

Ahhh. Yeah, see, I shame my fellow Irish because I don't drink; and generally find bars a bit too noisy for me... although I always DID want to try out the Thirsty Scholar. Such a cool name, and the environment it inspires in my imagination makes me want to open a place if the Thirsty Scholar didn't live up to my expectations!

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January 17, 2010 3:14 PM    in reply to Philibusted

Yeah, I lived there in the 90's. Not familiar with that outfit. Sounds cool though. Do you recall the Someday Cafe?

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January 16, 2010 3:56 PM   

Well,well a Dem candidate for Senate in Mass fighting for a seat Teddy once held.


It shows the failure of the Dem leadership:The Prez and Dems have lost the mojo with their embrace of Corporations.And for Dems to stress that a healthcare bill that benefits Insurance companies over people won't bring support for Coakley.

Fact of the matter people don't trust either party to help ordinary Americans.

I heard that the Insurance lobby held a fundraiser for Coakley in Washington DC.Is this true ?
And if it is she is not worth voting for.She is another Corporate Dem.

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January 16, 2010 4:01 PM   

This is from the Washington Examiner:
In response, an army of lobbyists for drug companies, health insurance companies, and hospitals has teamed up to throw a high-dollar Capitol Hill fundraiser for Coakley next Tuesday night. The invitation is here.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Coakley-in-trouble-Pharma-and-HMO-lobbyists-to-the-rescue-81067542.html#ixzz0coLwzwXX


She ain't about ordinary people,She is a Corporate Dems and god knows we have enough of em already.

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January 16, 2010 5:49 PM   

So Coakley is more like Kerry than Kennedy? So does this mean that Coakley hasn't driven drunk off a bridge and left someone to die? Because that would be the only gaffe she hasn't made, yet.

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January 16, 2010 6:03 PM   

Perhaps, the people have grown tired of Camelot and prefer a constitutional republic.

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January 16, 2010 6:17 PM   

OK my 2 cents. Massachusetts is in a perpetual election cycle. immediately after the 08 election we started speculating about Palin in 2012 and the 2010 midterms. Teddy dies and we have Martha, the only one brave enough to say she'll seek the seat before seeing if any of the Kennedy clan think they have it buy right of birth. She then goes through a primary with 3 bland white guys (why we didn't have a black or latino is beyond me) and as I see it we'd like to provide another women to the Senate. Now Martha has campaigned her ass off, provided guidance for prosecutions (some I would disagree with) and stepped to the plate for the national Democrats.

I do not believe Mass. would send a Republican to DC. It would take the majority of Independent and un-enrolled voters along with Republican to do this and I may be naive enough to believe that MA voters aren't that stupid. We may put a Republican in as Gov. to put a check on our state house, but on a national level we're not called "The People Republic" for nothing. Also we are "The Commonwealth of Massachusetts" not the "State of Massachusetts"

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January 16, 2010 11:45 PM   

If the Red Sox were playing the Yankees in the World Series and they lost the first game, would they say, "I wanted to sweep the Series in four games; we didn't get the sweep, let's go home and give the Yankees the Series"? No, they would be out there fighting twice as hard in the second game. If their second best pitcher was on the mound, would they say, "Sorry, I only play hard when our best pitcher is out there."? No, they would play even harder knowing they may have to score more runs to win. What's with Democrats, one disappointment and they are ready to quit? Republicans suffered massive losses in 2008. Did they pout and go sit on the sidelines? No, they are out their fighting like their life depends on it. So does ours. A vote for Martha Coakley is a vote for progress. It's not about her, it's about us.

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January 17, 2010 12:04 PM   

9/11 was an inside job. Terrorists attacks maybe on American soil. Anthrax attack. World is a dangerous place but the Obama administration will take care of it. So proud of them, so proud. Axelrod making statements today. Martha Coakley, you're our girl.

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January 17, 2010 7:26 PM   

The CNN article below reports that White House advisors think Martha Coakley will lose. The advisors are not named, but it may be some combination of Rahm Emmauel, Patrick Gaspard, and Jim Messina, the top political staff in the White House. They are likely the ones who leaked to the Washington Post that Obama's advisors faulted Creigh Deeds for a bad campaign in the Virginia governor's race. That race did not matter so much to Obama, but this one does. The President is being very ill-served by leaks like this because this is a close race that Obama NEEDS Ms. Coakley to win, and stories like this one will only depress Democratic turnout. What's worse is there is a reasonable chance Ms. Coakley can win if the White House advisors will work to help her rather than whine to the press.

Sources: Obama advisers believe Coakley will lose
Posted: January 17th, 2010 04:22 PM ET

From CNN Senior White House Correspondent Ed Henry

Washington (CNN) - Multiple advisers to President Obama have privately told party officials that they believe Democrat Martha Coakley is going to lose Tuesday’s special election to fill the Massachusetts Senate seat held by the late Ted Kennedy for more than 40 years, several Democratic sources told CNN Sunday.

The sources added that the advisers are still hopeful that Obama's visit to Massachusetts on Sunday - coupled with a late push by Democratic activists - could help Coakley pull out a narrow victory in an increasingly tight race against Republican state Sen. Scott Brown.

However, the presidential advisers have grown increasingly pessimistic in the last three days about Coakley's chances after a series of missteps by the candidate, sources said.

But White House spokesman Bill Burton told CNN: "The President is in Massachusetts today because he believes Martha Coakley is the right person for the job

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January 17, 2010 10:20 PM    in reply to David Dunham

Ed Henry had to retract most of that... It's spin from the media who would love to see Brown win. The advisers are talking about health care plan B, most likely, which would presume a Coakley loss... and that's certainly a possibility at the moment...

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January 17, 2010 8:13 PM   

If it was Capuano-Brown, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Sal is the real deal. He should have won the primary. Instead we got cold toast Coakley.

I will definitely vote for her because the likes of Brown is more Southwestern polished package GOP robot. he scares the hell out of me. He's a Stepford candidate like Mitt Romney.

Whichever way it goes - and I think it will be Coakley winning barely - followup polls should be dissecting the vote to see how much was a message to the DC Dems that they're not working hard enough for the common people. Too much deal-making, not enough steamrolling the SOB Repugs when you have the numbers to do it.

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