Gibbs: One Option For Health Care 'Is To Have The House Work On The Senate Bill'

@MCC -- I've been trying to get a response out of Woolsey's office all day to day. I live in her district and have called both the district office and the DC office twice to get an answer re: the House passing the Senate legislation.

The second time I called I was specifically asking if she was in the meeting with Pelosi when Grijalva said liberals would never vote for the Senate bill. Couldn't get them to give me an answer (they'll send me a response letter!).

The local staffer even tried to give me a civics lesson -- saying that my question was rhetorical because neither Congressman Grijalva or Congresswoman Woolsey can vote on Senate bills because they're in the House. That's really what she said.

This seems to be the fundamental difference between teabaggers and the diehard left.

The tea baggers want nothing and can only shout angrily at the sky and cite myths without even needing to go into religion. They are ignorant and stupid fools that go against their best interests. When they discovered that they had been cheated by the most obvious frauds in the world, they are honestly shocked. Who knew promoting frauds like Palin and The Fake Plumber was a bad idea?

The diehard left want something that can be scientifically proven and can make a perfectly logical argument for it in a lecture way. They clearly know what is good for them and yet when things are FINALLY going their way, they knowingly, deliberately, and viciously try to destroy it by voting for the person that promises and has the means to destroy it. Hey, who knew not even bothering to show up to vote or voting against your best interests would not make their rep. care about what your best interests are!(And I will just like to add that after that tantrum, you are now completely stuck with the Senate bill you hate. Want to whine some more?)

When progress finally happens, their responses are no less amusing.

The tea baggers would not admit they are everything they fear. Burned any medicare cards lately? Any of you "true patriots" refused the "socialists" money that you guys now want to claim?

The die hard liberals would pretend that they fought proudly by their leader's side every step of the way. The fact of the matter is, MLK never managed to destroy racism. All Lincoln did was take the blacks from actual slavery to de-facto slavery. Yet we still honor their names for doing something they only halfway did.

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And please enough shit about the public option. His poll numbers and the comments on these blog posts about dems were they same when there was a medicare buy in as it is now: more and more and more hate.

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And enough shit about Medicare for All would had saved everyone. You know as well as I do that if Obama signed these three things into law into day one:

1) All government health insurances are to merge together into Medicare

2) Only electronic billings

3) "Value based" medicare payment

4) Medicare for all

Which is any liberal's wet dream, you guys will still be whining right now. Why? Because you know as well as I do that it is impossible to fully implement in less than a year. Even after that, you would still call him a traitor.

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, ECONOMY, ECONOMY, ECONOMY.

Those are the only things that matter right now to the American people. They sure are not interested in being forced to pay money to insurance carriers that they do not have. The only thing that is coming from this healthcare debate is more negative piled on top of the disasterous economy. The perception is that the dems do not give a sh*t about the economic problems and are only pushing their pet issue while the economy burns.

If dems do not realize this, they will get slaughtered in 2010.

More and more I see a reconciliation package the only way to go other than total collapse. The only good thing about this election from the progressive point of view is that it blows up the deal with Lieberman and Nelson that progressives hate so much. At least 55 Senators agree to the idea of a Medicare buy-in. Probably as many would like to soften the excise tax and provide more Medicaid funding to states. This costs a little money, but Reid could afford to lose a few deficit hawks. He would just need 50 senators. It's like a whole new universe.

It's very lucky that most (but not all) of the sticking points between the House and Senate could be addressed through reconciliation, although not immigrant status or abortion. There are also some liberal members like Byrd and Feingold who oppose the use of reconcilation on procedural grounds. I am only guessing that on the very brink of disaster they will adapt their tactics for survival and pass a bill.
The Dems could also pull into their bunker, let the bill die, and await their return to the peace of powerlessness.

House and Senate work together on a reconciliation package. Senate passes reconiliation package. House then passes both the Senate bill and the reconciliation package and then you have a deal.

In terms of immigration, that should be addressed in immigration reform. In term of abortion, do a separate amendment that can be voted on by both House and Senate.