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Eric Kleefeld | January 4, 2010, 1:10PM

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Allen Quist, a Republican candidate seeking the nomination to go up against Rep. Tim Walz (D-MN), has made a serious pronouncement: That the political battle against the Democrats is the defining fight of this generation, even greater than the fight against terrorism.

"Now why am I doing this? I don't need to be in lights, I don't need to speak, I don't need to be before a TV camera, I don't need to be in the paper. I have been there, I have done all that. I don't need to be there," said Quist, a former state Representative who ran for governor twice in the 1990's, and even won the state party convention's endorsement in the 1994 primary against the incumbent moderate GOP governor.

"It's because I, like you, have seen that our country is being destroyed. I mean, this is -- every generation has had to fight the fight for freedom. This is our fight. And this is our time. This is it. Terrorism, yes -- but that's not the big battle. The big battle is in D.C., with the radicals. They aren't liberals, they're radicals. Obama, Pelosi, Walz -- they're not liberals, they're radicals. They are destroying our country. And people all over are figuring that out."

Quist does not have a clear road to the nomination, as he faces a convention/primary battle with state Rep. Randy Demmer. It will be interesting to see whether this stark Tea Party-style rhetoric will be an aid or hindrance to Quist's chances.

Quist's remarks can be found at the 3:10 mark here:

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texscubarat

January 4, 2010 1:29 PM

Yeah, and we all know how their fight against terrorism went. But on a positive note, he knows all about radicals. So here is yet another rethug clone. This guy would rather put an end to all the good being done now (no thanks to the GNOP) rather than work on helping us fight terrorism. Another waste of space that can go to someone than can actually make a difference for the good of America.

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January 4, 2010 2:24 PM in reply to texscubarat

He's not exactly a clone. I think of him as the beta version of Bachmann. He held her position as poster child for religious conservatism in Minnesota before Bachmann first ran for public office. The article mentions that he beat the the moderate incumbent governor for the party endorsement, but it doesn't mention that the incumbent governor squished him in the primary by something like 67-33. I'd like to think the result would be the same now --- but I don't really think so.

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Sailormarlowe

January 4, 2010 1:30 PM

Absolutely true that Americans have more to fear from Washington politicians than from foreign "terse", as Condi Rice used to call them.

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January 4, 2010 1:40 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe

Right, because Osama bin Laden's health care plan is sooooo much better.

Seriously, WTF exactly has been done in the last 12 months that's "destroying the country"? The only thing I see that rises to that level is the RW noise machine elevating "disagreeing with Republicans" to being equal to terrorism.

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January 4, 2010 3:06 PM in reply to Matt Jones

"THE NEW SHERIFF IS A"

I would really like to believe that's not at the root of this movement, but I can't bring myself to. If anyone has evidence to the contrary(anecdote not= evidence), I would really like to hear it.

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January 4, 2010 4:48 PM in reply to kenga

I'm sad to say I agree with you Kenga. I've tried to be open minded about Obama's opposition, and I've tried to make sense of their points of view.

I just don't see any legitimate reason for their intense hatred of him. He has barely even DONE anything, and certainly nothing worthy of hatred. On the national level, things are same to better regarding the economy, national defense, the environment, etc. I'm sure locally some people are much worse off, and some are much better off, but on average things appear to be slowly improving - despite intense opposition from the GOP.

I guess you could point to the attempted bombing on Christmas to say things are worse, but we all know that terrorists will continue to target the US regardless of policies or which party is in the White House. Besides, they were screaming about their freedoms being taken away in February for crying out loud.

So, given a lack of tangible, factual evidence upon which to base their claims of lost freedoms, what other explanation is there?

A mostly black guy with a terrorist's name who spent part of his childhood in a Muslim country and comes from Hawaii (which, frankly, is barely a state anyway) was elected President. In THEIR America. They refuse to believe it...that so many Americans can think so differently than they do. We all must be blind to the clear fact that he's a Mujahid hell-bent on destroying our democracy. Just as soon as he gets off the golf course that is.

Maybe if he was a white guy named Obama, or a black guy named Bob Smith, it wouldn't be so bad. But you have racial and xenophobic fears wrapped into one guy, and they're scared.

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Barry Champlain

January 4, 2010 7:42 PM in reply to Forrest

Here's the tell on that:

It's not "their" country. It's "OURS".

And "we" want "our" country back.

From "THEM".

This has never really been a puzzle.

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Backcountry

January 4, 2010 8:53 PM in reply to Forrest

This is absolutely the correct analysis of this. You've hit the nail squarely on the head.

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January 5, 2010 12:21 AM in reply to Forrest

It must be the orange peeko or could it be black tea they see! Oh there I go pulling the race card! My bad!

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January 5, 2010 11:14 AM in reply to Forrest

I don't think it is just racial and xenophobic fears. Those are there, but they are just symbols that Obama represents those who oppose them. I think the key is that Obama replaced a man who claimed to be "born-again."

Once Obama replaced Bush the "born-agains" found themselves removed from the privileged positions they had occupied that allowed them to enforce irrational religious doctrine to replace rational and scientific legal doctrines. No more forcing NASA scientists to include Creationism in their public reports. No more using legal and military force to get people to agree with religious doctrines rather than persuasion. No more treating religious crazies and Creationists as though they were sane, sensible and respected human beings.

I think the apparently irrational hatred of Obama is rooted in this feeling that they and their core beliefs (religion and the Bible should dominate over law and government, for example) are being rejected.

Remember that Tom DeLay is a born-again Creationist who worked hard to place his religious views into control of the federal government, and he was House Majority leader and dominated Denny Hastert, his hand-picked Speaker of the House. Senators Ensign, Coburn, Inhofe, DeMint and others are all part of the same Dominionist religious movement and are in position to control parts of the U.S. government.

Obama, as President, takes away some of their power. He is a real roadblock to their effort, for example, to place nothing but anti-abortinosits into lifetime federal judiciary positions. He is a major roadblock to their effort to proselytize and convert the military to a branch of the evangelical religious movement. (Bush and Rumsfeld gave preference to born-agains for promotion to flag officer rank.) They hate that and they want that power back. It's that loss of power they truly hate. Obama is the symbol of that loss of power,so they hate him viscerally.

This group today is the core of the radical Republican Party. They also work with Randians and Libertarians, NeoCons, Wall Street free market bankers, the ultra-wealthy and big business executives. All of these are groups who feel rejected by the Democrats, by those being exploited by big banks and by labor organizations who Obama represents (however well), but the religious right-wing crazies are currently the tightly organized core of the rejection of Obama.

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murphthesurf

January 5, 2010 9:07 PM in reply to Richardxx

What an extraordinarily cogent analysis. I have tended to regard evangelical fundamentalism and its "born again" credo as a peripheral element in the lives of the neocons and their ilk. Your argument places this issue of faith at the core of their identity. I am impressed by your argument. Certainly their zealotry, exclusiveness and explicitly religious goals point support your point.

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January 4, 2010 1:38 PM

Seems like a pretty clear statement of how the GOP sees its own party interest as more important than the national interest. It also shows that the notion of the loyal opposition is foreign to modern Republicans.

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January 5, 2010 11:22 AM in reply to Edgar Ant

I don't think there is any doubt at all that Allen Quist considers his born-again evangelical religion more important than the American national interest. Since the born-again evangelicals have essentially taken control of the GOP during the Bush era they also consider GOP interest itself more important than the national interest, but that's because they now consider the GOP to be their political arm.

FOX is their equivalent media arm.

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January 4, 2010 1:41 PM

Minnesota has always had its share of outspoken far right loonies. This is one that had been dormant for so long that everyone had forgotten about him. I guess he was tired of seeing Bachmann get all the cuckoo creds.

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The Other Ed

January 4, 2010 4:48 PM in reply to chimpale

Seemed to me that Minnesota used to be filled with somewhat liberal, calm and reserved Lutherans from the 19th century up until the end of the Humphrey years in the 70's. What's got into the water there in the last 30 years to turn them into stark raving lunatics?

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January 5, 2010 11:34 AM in reply to The Other Ed

That can't be true. Nothing could ever threaten the reality of Lake Woebegone.

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Chris in Fargo

January 5, 2010 1:40 PM in reply to Richardxx

Minnesota remains progressive, and thankfully also rather experimental and daring. That explains the vote for Jesse "The Mind" Ventura - who went on to cash-in the budget surplus and reserves with 'Jesse Checks' and exasperating the current budget problems, but that is hind-sight. (Jesse would also have lost in a re-election bid, due to some pretty poor PR moves and hostility towards the media).
Minnesota has the proud heritage of Wellstone, Humphrey, Klobuchar, and now Franken, in amongst others. BUT, there is a reactionary swing upon occasion, giving us Rod Gramms, who served beside Wellstone.
From the Anti-Abortion/Pro-Union north to the Anti-Union/Pro-Life south, Minnesota politics is varied and unpredictable.
Quist doesn't have much of a chance, if you ask me.

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Chris in Fargo

January 5, 2010 1:42 PM in reply to Richardxx

Minnesota remains progressive, and thankfully also rather experimental and daring. That explains the vote for Jesse "The Mind" Ventura - who went on to cash-in the budget surplus and reserves with 'Jesse Checks' and exasperating the current budget problems, but that is hind-sight. (Jesse would also have lost in a re-election bid, due to some pretty poor PR moves and hostility towards the media).
Minnesota has the proud heritage of Wellstone, Humphrey, Klobuchar, and now Franken, in amongst others. BUT, there is a reactionary swing upon occasion, giving us Rod Gramms, who served beside Wellstone.
From the Anti-Abortion/Pro-Union north to the Anti-Union/Pro-Life south, Minnesota politics is varied and unpredictable.
Quist doesn't have much of a chance, if you ask me.

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Overreach THIS!

January 4, 2010 1:49 PM

So is the headline here *overblowing* what this whackaloon says? If you don't want to spend time digging into yet, after 3:10 he indeed says,

"Terrorism yes, but that's not the BIG battle!! The BIG battle in D.C. with the *radicals* [...] Obama, Pelosi, Walz! [...] They are destroying our country!!"

So there you have it from candidate Quist. Just like Eric said. So Yemenis take note, this candidate is NOT easy to impress!

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January 4, 2010 1:58 PM

Quist, like Coleman, is a joke and a bad one at that.

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January 4, 2010 2:53 PM

Why didn't they think Bush was destroying the country? I mean technically he destroyed this country but none of these yahoos ever said a word against him. Go figure.

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January 4, 2010 3:02 PM

...the political battle against the Democrats is the defining fight of this generation...
Pretty sure he’s not speaking for my generation.“Battle against the Democrats”??? Really? Is this another call for a civil war?

"It's because I, like you, have seen that our country is being destroyed. I mean, this is -- every generation has had to fight the fight for freedom...”
Yep. Our generation won our freedom with the last election and we’re pretty confident that our country isn’t being destroyed...anymore.

“This is our fight. And this is our time. This is it. Terrorism, yes -- but that's not the big battle. The big battle is in D.C., with the radicals. They aren't liberals, they're radicals. Obama, Pelosi, Walz -- they're not liberals, they're radicals. They are destroying our country. And people all over are figuring that out."
So, this means you’ll be printing your campaign slogan on tinfoil hats, right? What a dbag. I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone say they were more threatened by Democrats than terrorists. Does this mean we’re doing something right?

I ask again, what the hell is in that tea?

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January 4, 2010 4:32 PM in reply to WaitWut?

Uh, well, back when tea was first popular in the UK, the cheap stuff that was sold for 2P by street vendors, was cut with horse manure.

Rather appropriate, I'd say.

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January 4, 2010 4:50 PM in reply to Number6

LOL!!! Very appropriate! Probably not a good selling point for Lipton, though.

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January 4, 2010 5:21 PM in reply to WaitWut?

And I don't think the 'baggers are exactly into Earl Grey, Hot. There is a distinct air of green pastures around their chosen cup......

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January 4, 2010 3:56 PM

oh great, another nut from minnesota.

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January 4, 2010 4:12 PM

the roaches continue to crawl out of the woodwork...

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January 4, 2010 4:55 PM

Quite ironic that despite being of prime freedom fighting age, Quist ran and hid from Vietnam.

Seems to be a plague amongst the nut slappers.

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January 4, 2010 5:25 PM in reply to Chris

I call the baggers a bunch of keyboard-commando cowards. They love the idea of starting a war, but let the children of the poor and the not-white do the fighting and dying while they cheer, safely "embedded" in mom's spare room.

I've had several of these contard losers threaten to find me and "straighten me out." What a hoot!

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January 4, 2010 6:38 PM in reply to Number6

Straighten you out they will. Everything they do is a Revolution!

All you have to do to be Republican is chest thump war, talk about cutting spending, busting deficits and moral values. You don't have to do any of it, just talk it. It's a sickness really.

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Ducksworthy

January 4, 2010 5:40 PM

Allen Quist failed part time preacher and full time mealy mouthed Bachman worshipper against a retired command sergeant major. Should be fun to watch. I hope the baggers get him the nomination.

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January 4, 2010 5:45 PM

i say let them dig their own 'grave' demise with all the tantrum rhetoric.

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January 4, 2010 6:37 PM

Based on the Republican success pursuing the "War on Terror" the "War on Democrats" could have some profound results. Millions without jobs, lack of access to healthcare, families with hungry children, a crumbling infastructure, and a vastly more powerful 'enemy'. So basically like the US now, but with more Democrats.

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January 4, 2010 7:34 PM

Classic Freudian overcompensation.

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January 4, 2010 8:48 PM

Anger is now turning to silence, like the calm before a great storm.

The Dems are toast.

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January 4, 2010 9:29 PM in reply to Silence

Based on...What, exactly? What you and your minority of crazy want to believe?

No matter, watching you all cop excuses and eat your words will be beyond epic.

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January 9, 2010 4:52 AM in reply to Silence

Michael Steele says the Republicans can't take control of the House in 2010 and are not prepared to lead. At least for once he told the truth.

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Backcountry

January 4, 2010 8:58 PM

Quist -- wasn't that the little guy with the propeller on his head who sold sugar cereal in the 1960s? He had a rivalry with a guy named Quake, as I recall. But now he's taking aim at Democrats.

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midnight rambler

January 4, 2010 10:27 PM in reply to Backcountry

No, he was the guy that Hitler set up to run Norway.

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January 9, 2010 5:13 AM in reply to midnight rambler

I think the guy in Norway was Quisling.

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Barry Schwartz

January 4, 2010 9:23 PM

It seems worth noting that the Quist endorsement for governor was achieved by stealth, not by popular support even among Republicans. The primary was a laugher, of course, but I suppose Michele Bachmann may be a result of Quistine burrowing (but I was and am in a solidly Democratic bordering district and don’t follow the affairs in Bachmann’s silly district).

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January 4, 2010 10:43 PM

What disturbs me the most is that this rhetoric has traction. There are actually people in MN for which his words resonate with some importance. That he speaks this way is one thing, that some folks find it acceptable is really something altogether terrifying.

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bluestatedon

January 5, 2010 1:16 AM

Like all chest-thumping GOP chickenhawks, Quist very conveniently did not serve in the military during the Vietnam War. However, his horribly radical, U.S.-hating Democrat opponent Tim Walz, served 24 years in the National Guard. According to his wiki bio, "Walz enlisted in the National Guard in 1981, and over the course of his 24-year career rose to the rank of command sergeant major. In 1989, he earned the title of Nebraska Citizen-Soldier of the Year. After a deployment to Italy with his Guard unit as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, Walz retired from the National Guard and resumed teaching as a geography teacher and football coach at Mankato West Senior High School."

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January 5, 2010 7:36 AM

REPUBLICAN RIGHT TRYING TO MAKE OBAMA A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT
Short of completely sabotaging him, there are many on the right who would like to make Obama in their own image—even against the clear voter verdict of November, 2008. Dick Cheney and bedfellows, by calling Obama too “radical” and “leftist,” are projecting a wish that he abandons his base, cower and turn right. Peggy Noonan of Wall Street Journal, on Fareed Zakaria’s GPS (CNN,1/3/10) was not impressed by Obama’s transformational initiatives like health care and saving the economy but focused only on cost. Yet, during the Bush years, she said little about the deficit even as Cheney intoned then that “the deficit doesn’t matter.” Republican media stalwarts accusatorily call Obama a “socialist” even when his key financial advisers are avid capitalists whose interests lie more in Wall Street than in Main Street. I am one of those who believe that the election of Obama as President is an Act of God in a deeply racially-divided America. In this epoch-making event, God used young people to get their parents to make a significant paradigm shift. Obama fails only if he loses these young people (his critical base) and the positive energy they bring to the political process. Noonan made the wrong analysis that Democrats lost New Jersey’s Governor’s race because Obama had gone “left.” Did she know how many rebelled in New Jersey because he had gone right and lost sight of his agenda and promise?

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AntiStrauss

January 5, 2010 9:33 AM

Quist and his mob of Quistians tried to wreck the State when he was in office last time and running for governor. Minnesota rejected him! I ordered him off of my property when he came to solicit my vote.
Bachmann is a pale neo-Quistian without experience or depth. Here's hoping that Minnesota again rejects this repulsive brand of divisive politics.

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January 5, 2010 9:38 AM

THE KKK Party cares nothing about terrorism other than big donations towards it.

making money off of 300 near death on christmas.

what a bunch of dirty filty pigs at best

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January 5, 2010 9:39 AM

THE KKK Party cares nothing about terrorism other than big donations towards it.

making money off of 300 near death on christmas.

what a bunch of dirty filty pigs at best

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January 5, 2010 1:01 PM in reply to monet768

"the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy. Between 1869 and 1871 its goal was to destroy Congressional Reconstruction by murdering blacks -- and some whites -- who were either active in Republican politics or educating black children."

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_kkk.html

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Chris in Fargo

January 5, 2010 1:52 PM in reply to Silence

...and the Republican party is the same today as the party of Lincoln? Thank you for the history lesson, but perhaps it should act more as a mirror than a message.

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murphthesurf

January 5, 2010 8:47 PM in reply to Silence

Lacking context your conclusions are false. The Democratic Party split into three parts just prior to the Civil War and put forth three candidates to oppose Abraham Lincoln. That divide continued after the war. Setting themselves up as the party that opposed the Republican sponsored scalawags and carpetbaggers. In the same way, they sponsored and were supported by the KKK which was anti-black, anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish and anti-immigrant.

Southern Democrats would later term themselves Dixiecrats as Civil Rights Legislation moved through the Congress in the 1950's and 60's. When Civil Rights Legislation became the law of the land, Democrats began the journey from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. The Solid South was at one time the Democratic South. Now it is the Republican South.

Northern, Midwestern and Western Democrats became the party of progressive reform in the first days of the 20th Century. It became the party of Woodrow Wilson and FDR, of Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter and Clinton. Thorough progressive and liberal. Those who the KKK tormented in the South became its mainstays in the rest of the country.

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January 6, 2010 2:25 PM in reply to murphthesurf

Perhaps, Senator Byrd could shed some light on the KKK issue.

In the meantime, I'll listen to those who walk the walk.

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January 5, 2010 9:44 AM

WONDER WHY THEY DIDN'T FIGHT TO FIND OSAMA BIN LIDEN.

MAYBE WE CAN ASK WAR HERO DICK CHENEY....

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January 5, 2010 10:58 AM

Allen Quist, Say it to my Fu%king Face!!

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Texas Aggie

January 5, 2010 4:06 PM

"...have seen that our country is being destroyed."

For eight years we watched out country being destroyed, everything that made America special being destroyed. We watched as the gilded rich got even richer thanks to GOP initiated tax reduction for the rich so that the middle and working classes had to shoulder more of the burden for the country. We watched as our country was successfully attacked by terrorists because of the lack of concern by the GOP. We watched as the GOP used that attack to destroy our freedoms, and not just with the Patriot act. We watched as the GOP used that attack as an excuse to enrich their friends in the military/industrial complex and the oil business at the expense of the US military and the US taxpayer (no longer the rich pulling their share) by invading a country that had no relation with 9/11. We watched as the GOP destroyed the social safety net even to the extent of trying to privatize social security for the benefit of Wall St. We watched as the elderly were screwed over for the benefit of Big Pharm, again with the middle and working class picking up the tab at tax time. We watched as deregulation again enriched the wealthy on Wall St. and threw the rest of us out of work, but our taxes once again were used to compensate the GOP supporters.

Tell me, Quist. If you are so upset about our country being destroyed, why are you supporting the people who did it?

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murphthesurf

January 5, 2010 8:32 PM

======Sent to Allen Quist's Campaign Office====

Just saw your address to a crowd in which you said that the great struggle of our time was not with terrorism but rather with liberalism. WOW!

Does the GOP know that you believe the Democratic Party is more dangerous than Islamic Extremism.

I am going to write to the RNC to ask them if they do.

You are not the future of the Republican Party. You are the past (think Joe McCarthy).
=============================

I tried to send this to the Republican National Committee but could find no published public e-mail site. So I sent the following message to the Democratic National Committee along with the original message.

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I tried to send this to the Republican National Committee but oddly there appears to be no public e-mail address. What are these guys hiding from? Maybe folks like me.

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January 5, 2010 11:28 PM

Against the Health care plan? express your opinion at http://www.obamahealthcareplan.org

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January 6, 2010 8:53 AM

We've seen a lot of this type of rhetoric in southern Minnesota this year from the GOP. They've been going after Congressman Walz for his support of the energy bill and health care reform so I've created this Act Blue page to support him - http://www.actblue.com/page/walz. Check it out if you can help make sure Minnesota doesn't elect another Bachmann!

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Tosh

June 6, 2010 7:38 AM

I don't think there is any doubt at all that Allen Quist considers his born-again evangelical religion more important than the American national interest. Since the born-again evangelicals have essentially taken control of the GOP during the Bush era they also consider GOP interest itself more important than the national interest, but that's because they now consider the GOP to be their political arm.

FOX is their equivalent media arm.

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