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House Braces For Coakley Loss: Are They Ready For Health Care Concession?

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Are rank-and-file members of the House ready to swallow a bitter pill and pass the Senate version of health care reform if Democrat Martha Coakley loses tonight?

As we've been reporting all week, leadership is faced with two basic options: Plan A of keeping up negotiations to merge the House and Senate bill and somehow rush a final bill through regardless of the even tougher political environment they'd be facing come sunrise or Plan B of passing the Senate's bill unchanged and dealing with the differences in another bill down the line.

Leadership sources have insisted to us for days that no such Plan B talks are happening, and the White House won't publicly entertain questions about health care concession plans should Republican Scott Brown win tonight. Some sources tell us that if such a contingency plan is being developed, it's happening between President Obama and Speaker Nancy Pelosi to avoid leaks to the press before the election result is known.

But the sentiment among senators who just barely got to 60 votes last month and privately within the Obama White House - which has weathered blows for months on the delay - is that it may be now or never.

Administration officials think there is an argument to be made for Plan B since Congress has gotten this far and the bills are 90 percent the same.

In a telling detail, the White House tonight emailed reporters several blog entries (including this one by TPM's Josh Marshall) that favorably suggested the House pass the Senate bill.

House aides told us the White House seems to be pushing Plan B but that members aren't readying for such a vote. The aides also say members won't go for it, and if it's true they aren't prepared for the possibility, Wednesday could be a cold-water wake-up call.

House sources also told us Plan B would seem to scrap the weeks of intense negotiations leaders, staff and even the president have engaged in to make the bills better.

In public statements, leaders suggested they will find a way to get their compromise bill passed.

"Whatever happens in Massachusetts, we have to do that. And whatever happens in Massachusetts we will have quality affordable health care for all Americans, and it will be soon," Pelosi said tonight before huddling with Democratic members for a planned caucus meeting.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters today the Senate bill is "clearly better than nothing."

"I want us to do everything we can to make it better, just as we did before this happened. I don't know what's going to happen in Massachusetts," said Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY), chairman of the Rules Committee.

But it won't be easy to keep rank-and-file members, especially conservative Democrats, in line with what would be a tough loss in a blue state.

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-SD) said "chances would diminish significantly for achieving health care reform this year" if Coakley loses, according to the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza.

Additional reporting by Brian Beutler.

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January 19, 2010 7:04 PM   

why did I ever become interested in politics?

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January 19, 2010 7:16 PM    in reply to plan69

I know, sometimes I envy people who have never heard of Joe Lieberman.

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January 19, 2010 7:22 PM    in reply to plan69

Because you are a Patriot in the true sense. You care enough what happens to your country that you're willing to suffer through endless political BS in the hope that things can get better.

Or, you're a masochist. Maybe both. :-)

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January 19, 2010 7:24 PM    in reply to Boidster

As this day has progressed, my tummy is in knots and this brief I have to prepare is not getting done.

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January 19, 2010 7:36 PM    in reply to lousgirl84

I know. I've already started feeling like vomiting. Dang it.

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January 19, 2010 7:40 PM    in reply to geofu54

I'm sick. I can't figure out the voters in this country. I can't understand how a 20 vote majority turning into a 18 vote majority is the demise of the Dems. What the hell is wrong with us?

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January 19, 2010 7:55 PM    in reply to loria

What's to figure out? Voters are mad as hell. They don't think the politicians aren't listening. Scratch that. They KNOW the politicians aren't listening.

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January 19, 2010 8:07 PM    in reply to bluebell

I don't buy that for a minute. If they are, they don't get just how long it took to get us where we are and they are looking for a magic wand or some fairy dust to make things right. You tell me how, despite a year of doing nothing, the GOP somehow resonates with people. It makes no sense. Sure the left might be angry because they saw something in Obama that just wasn't there. But whose fault is that? He is doing what he campaigned on. The right is angry because they don't get everything they want.

I was actually listening when Obama campaigned. I expected what we have. I didn't believe he would govern from the far left. If that had been possible Kucinich would have done much better than he did.

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January 19, 2010 8:24 PM    in reply to loria

You aren't getting it. This isn't a win for the GOP except of course for the sad fact that they get a Senate seat. This is a throw the bums out vote. Obama chose, and it was very much a choice, to become the establishment's President and embrace the bums most especially the banksters. Granted, he doesn't have the right personality for populism. Bill Clinton could have faked it. But he chose to fill the White House with political hacks and corporate friendly elitists. Unfortunately for Coakley her tone deaf bungling fit right into that out of touch, I'm smarter than you are and I don't care if you are in pain-I'm here to serve the elites not you, narrative. The "let them eat cake" narrative is killing the Democrats. People don't listen to every word but they hear about taxes on union benefits and mandates on the little guy and bailouts for the fat cats and bonuses for the banksters and the don't bother me about jobs, I'm going to Hawaii on vacation ...

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January 19, 2010 7:53 PM    in reply to lousgirl84

So now that you are sick to your stomach, does it mean that you are not going to cheerlead for Obama anymore? Don't you believe that Obama will do something to get the HC bill passed? If not, why not - you kept telling us for months on end that Obama is the best thing next to sliced bread...

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January 19, 2010 8:11 PM    in reply to tytester

I still believe in Obama and what he will accomplish. I never thought he was the Messiah. I didn't think that everything could be fixed in a minute. I'll give him some time, and I will be cheerleading because I'm not with the people who like to see him fail. I want to see things get better in this country and returning the power to the GOP isn't going to make that happen. It's not like they've learned from the many mistakes they've made. Instead, they'd just like to rewrite history and pretend they had nothing to do with what we have today.

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January 19, 2010 8:38 PM    in reply to loria

I see your point, and I am sorry you feel this way. But from where I view things, there is not much of a difference between the D's and the GOP.

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January 19, 2010 7:32 PM    in reply to plan69

I just asked myself that very question about ten minutes ago. I long for the days when I was politically unaware. I am worn out and tired of trying to make any sense of what is happening these days.

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January 19, 2010 7:08 PM   

I think the House knows that they are just going to have to pass the Senate bill and then later through reconciliation they can make the changes that have been negotiated.

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January 19, 2010 7:11 PM   

The stuff that has been negotiated for weeks CAN be passed later via reconciliation.

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January 19, 2010 7:14 PM    in reply to Maritza

No need for reconciliation. Pass the Senate bill, include changes in the President's budget. A budget, unlike normal bills, requires only 51 votes. There you go. Remember, the budget is due in Feb.

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January 19, 2010 7:33 PM    in reply to calchala

Yes, there are many good ways of revising this that only require 51 votes.

And no more Lieberman having "second thoughts" and the like.

Time to wrap this up, get the bill done, and move on.

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January 19, 2010 8:29 PM    in reply to Maritza

Why not go nuclear?

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January 19, 2010 8:41 PM    in reply to waterhead

That's nu-cu-ler, where were you during the reign of The Decider?

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January 19, 2010 8:44 PM    in reply to sunnysteve

Praying that he didn't start WW3

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January 19, 2010 7:20 PM   

Breaking: Anthony Weiner just stated that he will support the House passing the Senate bill, so long as it is renamed the Thanks For Nothing You Terrible Candidate Martha Coakley Health Reform Act.

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January 19, 2010 7:33 PM   

First, the Democrats Loving Corporations move into the White House and immediately begin dimantling their Progressive support structures THEN they run hands off camapaign on everything except pimping for Corporate causes THEN they blame the outcome of their stupidity on a woman?!?!?!?

File thins under WTF!!!!

I want to also point out that battered-spouse-minded DEMs began telling everyone that this was going to be the outcome a WEEK AGO. Holy crap Batman! This is not the way to run a government.

ALSO just where in Sam Hill was the DSCC all this time? "Roll-over-for-any-fight" Reid has gotta answer for this. The one thing a winner NEEDS to do is win. NOT WINce.

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January 19, 2010 7:33 PM   

Martha, meet Bill.

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January 19, 2010 7:35 PM    in reply to agio

Good call.

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January 19, 2010 9:23 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Bingo-

Martha fumbled it (or whatever sports cliche you want to use). BUT, maybe Mass will have some buyers remorse re: Brown (Tea-Mass).

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January 19, 2010 11:18 PM    in reply to LBJs Brain

OK, but it's not all on her. This was a national referendum. People didn't feel such a strong affinity for Brown. They just don't want any more business as usual...and that's what we've been getting from establishment Dems all year. In a crude, baby-with-the-bathwater moment, MA voters said: we don't want more of THAT.

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January 19, 2010 7:34 PM   

First, the Democrats Loving Corporations move into the White House and immediately begin dimantling their Progressive support structures THEN they run hands off camapaign on everything except pimping for Corporate causes THEN they blame the outcome of their stupidity on a woman?!?!?!?

File thins under WTF!!!!

I want to also point out that battered-spouse-minded DEMs began telling everyone that this was going to be the outcome a WEEK AGO. Holy crap Batman! This is not the way to run a government.

ALSO just where in Sam Hill was the DSCC all this time? "Roll-over-for-any-fight" Reid has gotta answer for this. The one thing a winner NEEDS to do is win. NOT WINce.

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January 19, 2010 7:38 PM   

This is the wrong way to look at this issue. If Brown wins, that means Democrats can finally end the charade of the Senate bill, enforce reconciliation and pass a single-payer/public option bill.

http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/

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January 19, 2010 7:59 PM    in reply to jim43

Huh? I see the kids can still get the LSD.

If Brown wins the House swallows the Senate bill whole and the DFH's are told to go sit at the little table again. A "reconciliation fix" might or might not happen, it depends on if they can sit there with their hands folded in front of them and keep their filthy mouths shut.

If Coakley wins then we get a slightly less crappy bill as outlined by TPM over the last few days. Find the links yourself.

This is the way it will go down. Get used to it.

If you live in NY I might suggest the Working Families Party...

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January 19, 2010 8:21 PM    in reply to McMia

Don't forget this additional wrinkle - the health insurance industry poured $500 mil into lobbying and got a sweetheart deal that not only will boost their profits but also mandates their existence. So they are not going to let this HC bill fail - in the end, if the House amends the bill and sends it back to the Senate, there will be one GOP senator to support cloture (otherwise, $500 mil will go down the drain).

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January 19, 2010 8:30 PM   

A majority of the public disapproves of the current healthcare reform package but approves of a public option. If the House passes the Senate bill, and the public option is revived via reconciliation, requiring only 51 votes, Congressional Democrats stand to gain a healthcare reform law and an increase in approval for it -

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/f/r/fredmoolten/2010/01/the-silver-lining-if-martha-co.php?ref=reccafe

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January 19, 2010 11:27 PM    in reply to Fred Moolten

Good idea. But I hope it's what was often referred to as a ROBUST public option: prepopulated with tens of millions of default subscribers, tied by law to any provider or network that accepts Medicare patients, national in scope, managed by government offices (not subcontracted out to private insurers), allowed to negotiate provider reimbursement rates along with Medicare and Medicaid, and, importantly, open to anyone who wants in. They should start with the most progressive/populist option imaginable (as articulated by Jacob Hacker) and not give in. Once it's working, noone will be able to repeal it, politically. It will become a third rail, like Social Security and Medicare. They should DESIGN it to be a third rail (in other words, something that works for people - good policy).

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January 19, 2010 8:34 PM   

Go back to making them Filibuster the old way, make them speak on the floor for 3 months straight if that's what it takes. That or go nuclear, enough with this obstruction.

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January 19, 2010 8:36 PM   

For God's sake just pass the frickin Senate bill and move on to solving some of the other problems this country is facing.

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January 19, 2010 11:31 PM    in reply to OhioGuy

I don't understand this attitude, especially with 10% unemployment. Where are those unemployed people going to get health care now that their employers aren't providing insurance? I agree, it's part of the puzzle. But it's vital. Fred Moolton (above) has the right idea.

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January 19, 2010 9:24 PM   

AP just called for Brown, finally we can go the reconciliation route

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January 19, 2010 9:28 PM   

Game changer baby, can't underestimate it, Game Changer! Hard to see HCR succeed when you read too much into these results. If they push it through, it's not in line with "the American people" Polls are not in favor of "this" reform. The Congress took a good idea and turned the "American People" against it. This form of checks and balances is anathema to real change in this country, even when it's good for them.

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January 19, 2010 9:50 PM   

So I guess Obama is a lame duck now that the 60 vote exception has become the rule in the Senate. Awesome -- our political system is broken...

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