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Poll: Dem Coakley Leads GOPer Brown In MA-SEN Race, But Low Turnout Could Help Brown

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The new Rasmussen poll of the Massachusetts Senate special election, which will be held two weeks from today, gives Democratic candidate Martha Coakley an initial lead over Republican Scott Brown. But it might not be an automatic landslide in this Democratic-leaning state, with GOP voters disproportionately more enthusiastic in what could be a low-turnout election.

The numbers: Coakley 50%, Brown 41%, with a ±4.5% margin of error.

From the pollster's analysis: "Special elections are typically decided by who shows up to vote and it is clear from the data that Brown's supporters are more enthusiastic. In fact, among those who are absolutely certain they will vote, Brown pulls to within two points of Coakley. That suggests a very low turnout will help the Republican and a higher turnout is better for the Democrat."

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January 5, 2010 9:43 AM   

Rasmussen. I am supposed to be impressed with this. What is it with TPM and Rasmussen?

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January 5, 2010 9:56 AM   

Fooled me! Ramussen!

You got me! Good one!

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January 5, 2010 10:05 AM   

Coakley was in a 4-way primary and still got double the # of notes Brown got even though he was virtually unopposed.

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January 5, 2010 10:37 AM   

Remember that Massachusetts voters have voted for Republican moderates (Bill Weld) and those they thought were moderates (Mittens Romney) before.

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January 5, 2010 10:50 AM   

Every other poll has Coakley destroying Brown by double digits.

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January 5, 2010 11:43 AM   

There is a conservative trend in reaction to Obama and the Democratic congress. I regret this but it is happening. It was evident in the VA and NJ gubernatorial results last year. It is very clear in Senate polls this year in CO,CT,DE,and OH. It is why Peter King is reassessing his chances in NY. And it is why Scott Brown is within striking distance of Martha Coakley, a good Democratic candidate, in MA. Commenter who disparage Rasmussen or otherwise ignore what is clearly occurring will get rude awakening this year. Coakley will probably win, given the Democrats edge in MA, but it will be the closest Senate election there since 1994, and maybe since Paul Tsongas beat Ed Brooke in 1978. There is indeed something happening here and what it is is all too clear.

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January 5, 2010 11:53 AM    in reply to liberalcentrist

There is no broad conservative trend in reaction to Obama and the Democratic congress. It's all about turnout. McDonnell's "landslide victory" in Virginia consisted of just over half the votes that Obama received in VA in 2008. Deeds lost because he didn't turn out the African-American and NoVa voters that carried the state for Obama. This is largely because the voters of the party in power tend to get complacent while the voters of the party out of power get very angry and motivated... which can have a big impact in an off-year or mid-term election in which turnout is low.

With that said, Rasmussen unquestionably leans conservative regardless and if he has Coakley leading by nine points, it's a safe bet that she's going to win by double digits.

Nice concern trolling though...

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January 5, 2010 11:56 AM    in reply to Stroszek

But seriously, what is it with the old concern troll trope of acting like the reactions of internet commenters are going to have a big impact on an election? It's not like internet commenter turnout is a problem for politicians. It's such a completely asinine claim that it immediately gives away their intentions.

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January 5, 2010 12:05 PM    in reply to Stroszek

Oh, and of course, when Republicans are down in the polls, it's never a matter of a sudden swing towards progressive ideology. Love the double standards of Republicans... oops, I mean "liberal centrists."

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January 5, 2010 3:54 PM    in reply to Stroszek

How about instead of finding reasons to blow off uncomfortable polls, we take seriously that the race is too close to call and special elections have a history of being unpredictable? Those who live in Massachusetts, please at least pretend you take the polls seriously and focus on GOTV. The worst that can happen is you win in a blowout and decide your volunteer time wasn't needed.

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January 5, 2010 2:03 PM    in reply to Stroszek

It wasn't just complacency -- Deeds ran against many of Obama's positions that had wide support in Northern Virginia, for example, saying he might opt out of health care reform if it was allowed, and running ads against climate change legislation. He ran to his downstate roots and assumed that NoVa voters would vote for him anyway because they'd have nowhere else to go. Only the most superficial and uninformed analysis could portray it as any kind of referendum on Obama.

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January 5, 2010 12:06 PM   

While I am working to not let this happen, Rassmussen doesn't impress me.

Here's them from the December primary:

Massachusetts State Survey of 567 Likely Democratic Primary Voters
Conducted November 23, 2009
By Rasmussen Reports

Coakley 36%

Capuano 21%

Khazei 14%

Pagliuca 14%

Some other candidate 5%

Not sure 10%

Final Results

Coakley 47
Capuano 28
Khazei 13
Pagliuca 12

They had everyone up in arms then, too. They were off, and off from other pollsters, in that poll. Makes me question their legitimacy as a disinterested public polling service.

Nate at FiveThirtyEight.com seriously questions their methodology, and claims they're 3-5 points low on that 9 point margin. They were on the primary.

But, looks like a busy January for us. Anybody for some door knocking?

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January 5, 2010 12:30 PM   

There was certainly a swing toward liberalism,or at least the Democratic Party, in 2006 and 2008. That swing is over. It has now been reversed. And where the shift is most evident is among suburban and exurban voters concerned with too large budget deficits,tax increases, and increased regulation. It was those voters who swung hard for McDonnell in VA and Christie in NJ,though certainly also the Democratic "base" vote was down too. Such voters are also not fans of the health care bill, though that is more complex. Pleasing the base and pleasing suburban voters is very hard because they are angry about different and sometimes opposite things. Obama and his people are perfectly aware of their problems in the suburbs,which is why you are soon going to hear a lot about deficit reduction.

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January 5, 2010 12:43 PM    in reply to liberalcentrist

No, there really are no significant ideological swings to speak of. Trying to perceive shifts in fundamental opinion in the annual shift in turnout demographics is sheer pap pushed by those whose ideological agenda is favored by the moment. If the GOP interpret their gains in 2010 as an ideological shift towards conservatism, you and your fellow "liberal centrist" Republicans are going to be really disappointed in 2012.

And yes, it is that obvious that you are a Republican since only fringe righties actually believe the blatantly false assertion that suburban and exurban voters have seen tax increases under Obama. My suggestion is that you sign up with a username that expresses your actual ideological leanings instead of employing dumb forum tactics from the 1990's.

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January 5, 2010 12:52 PM    in reply to Stroszek

It's also telling how you casually ignore races like NY-20. What does that say for your conservative resurgence?

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January 5, 2010 12:40 PM   

No, that swing is not over.

People remember all too clearly the end results of GOP rule: Disastrous Domestic and Foreign policies, erosion of safety nets and supports for working and middle class Americans, huge debt from borrowing to finance tax cut after tax cut for the rich, total financial chaos as a result of reckless deregulation of greed and profits, total stagnation of wages and prosperity and job losses for 90% of Americans.

The memories of the last decade should be enough to counter the effects of whatever FOX, Limbaugh, and Rasmussen are smoking.

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January 5, 2010 12:42 PM   

A Republican taking Kennedy's old seat? That would be a horrible shame.

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January 5, 2010 1:00 PM    in reply to Maritza

I think this is less about taking the seat and more about furthering Brown's ambitions and right-wing credentials.

But it should serve as a reminder to all, as TPM rightly ledes: A repeal of Progressive policies and a return to the horrors of the GOP in power is always just a few votes away.

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January 5, 2010 1:23 PM   

No trend is absolutely effective and there is still plenty of opposition to the GOP, especially when it is taken over by extremists. The victory of Bill Owen in the Upstate district referred to by Stroszek is an instance of that. But he or she and others delude themselves if they think there is no conservative trend this year. I guess the argument is that when voters vote as liberals wish,the universe is in proper alignment. Conservative victories just reflect turnout anomalies or deceit by Republicans or racism or what the Marxists used to call "false consciousness" about voters' "real" interests. I don't why liberals are so comforted by such assumptions when they lose one election after another. Republicans won the presidential elections of 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, and 2004. They dominated American politics for 40 years. Don't such results reflect something deep in American ideological preferences? Obama broke the string by a centrist campaign which sought to transcend ideology. He is now perceived as a liberal, which is why is having problems with centrist voters.
Again, he knows this,even if his liberal critics don't. I am actually a Democrat and have voted for every Democratic presidential candidate since 1972. I do try to see what is in front of me however, and separate the world as I wish it to be from the world as it is.

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January 5, 2010 2:29 PM    in reply to liberalcentrist

You might want to narrow your scope from criticizing Obama and try seeing a little more narrowly, i.e., locally. Here in MA, the conservatives are all fired up and making a lot of noise. However, they are vastly outnumbered. If 50% of registered Democrats and left leaning independents show up, it's "game over" even if every Republican/tea bagger votes. If Coakley loses, it won't be because Brown's brand of conservatism has suddenly caught fire throughout the commonwealth. It will be because Democrats are too lazy to yet again make another of the 3-to-6-times-a-year (no joke!) trips to the polls and vote. Complacency and a lackluster GOTV effort from the local Democratic leadership is the only way that Brown takes this. Your prognosis/prognostication about a conservative groundswell might play in AZ, but not here in MA.

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January 5, 2010 6:26 PM   

Former male nude model State Senator Scott Brown (R) knows he likely won't win this one, but it positions him here for his next run, maybe when this seat comes up again in a coupla years. He'll have name recognition, and a tap on national winger funding.

You'll notice his photo ops include a daughter but no longer his wife Gail. The cynical among us might conclude it's because his daughter Ayla (of American Idol fame) is now more famous than Gail, a local newscaster. The man sure can photo op. And promise to cut taxes, because after all that's the only thing that will cure the economy.

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June 6, 2010 10:47 PM   

How about instead of finding reasons to blow off uncomfortable polls, we take seriously that the race is too close to call and special elections have a history of being unpredictable? Those who live in Massachusetts, please at least pretend you take the polls seriously and focus on GOTV. The worst that can happen is you win in a blowout and decide your volunteer time wasn't needed.

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