
The new Rasmussen poll of the Massachusetts Senate special election shows a dead heat between Democrat Martha Coakley and Republican Scott Brown.
The numbers: Coakley 49%, Brown 47%, plus 3% for independent libertarian Joe Kennedy, with a ±3% margin of error. In last week's Rasmussen poll, Coakley led by 50%-41%, with 2% for an unnamed "some other candidate." This new poll is roughly in line with this past weekend's survey from Public Policy Polling (D), which had Brown with a 48%-47%. A Boston Globe poll conducted last week put Coakley up by 15 points, and the Coakley campaign released an internal poll with themselves up by 14 points.
The pollster's analysis makes it clear how much Democrats need to rev up their base: "All polling indicates that a lower turnout is better for the Republican. The new Rasmussen Reports poll shows that Brown is ahead by two percentage points among those who are absolutely certain they will vote. A week ago, he trailed by two among those certain to vote."
Viva!America!
January 12, 2010 5:12 PM
Too Close to call? jeez, the front page made me think today was the election.
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Just me again
January 12, 2010 5:14 PM
Jesus if the GOP can take Teddy's seat is anything safe this November? So much for Hope and Change
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Viva!America!
January 12, 2010 5:16 PM in reply to Just me again
You know what I hope for? for people to stop saying that ridiculous line: so much for Hope and Change. Sorry, it's just corny, tired and never really had that sting people thought it had.
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Stroszek
January 12, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to Viva!America!
Agreed, but you can't really expect someone pathetic enough to troll comment sections to be all that creative or witty.
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btbradley86
January 12, 2010 5:58 PM in reply to Stroszek
I think "troll" has taken on a new meaning since Rachel Maddow became our very own "liberal troll".
Although, I will defend the guy because to lose Kennedy's seat would be a great blow to the party and really say something of the ineffectiveness in general of the party over the last few years.
Thats not Obama's fault as much as it is Coakley's for acting like she didnt have to work for this seat. If the candidate isnt engaged...neither are voters!
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expatjourno2
January 13, 2010 6:26 AM in reply to Viva!America!
You are going to keep hearing it for at least two-and-a-half more years because Obama ran on hope and change and has betrayed both. He opened his presidency with a speech by a homophobe, promptly decided that the people who killed 100 prisoners should literally get away with murder, continued the Bush bankster bailout unchanged, sold out to Big PhRMA and made sure that nothing would infringe on the profits of health insurance companies.
Change we can believe in, my ass.
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felix
January 12, 2010 5:22 PM in reply to Just me again
Well, a conservative Republican taking Kennedy's seat would certainly count as change.
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dswx
January 12, 2010 5:16 PM
Rasmussen is (R)
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felix
January 12, 2010 5:17 PM
Tim Kaine and/or the WH better know what they are doing by not sending Obama up there. Who cares if it signals panic? He should be able to rev up the base.
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Backcountry
January 12, 2010 5:18 PM
If the always-right-leaning Rasmussen Poll has her up by two -- she's probably really up by seven or eight. Still, she's going to have to work for this.
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Spiffarino
January 12, 2010 5:21 PM
Rasmussen. Meh.
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RhodaA
January 12, 2010 5:23 PM
MA-Sen, Recent polling
Pollster Date Coakley(D) Brown (R)
Melhman Jan 08-10 50% 36%
PPP Jan 07-09 47% 48%
UNH Jan 02-06 53% 36%
Rasmussen Jan 04 50% 41%
Mean Jan 02-10 50.00% 40.25%
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Stroszek
January 12, 2010 5:26 PM in reply to RhodaA
With the exception of PPP, the polls consistently show Coakley at 50% or above. Rasmussen predicts Brown will lock undecideds, but even then, Coakley just needs to boost Dem turnout a touch to get safely over the finish line.
Still, I sent some money her way this morning.
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RhodaA
January 12, 2010 5:28 PM in reply to Stroszek
You don't need to live in MA to help out in the election.
Organizing for America has a good MA phone campaign going on. I live in NY and started calling some of the people on the lists. All of them sounded enthusiastic.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaforamerica/gGG5lp
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glblank
January 12, 2010 5:46 PM in reply to RhodaA
All of the media are misunderestimating OFA. Brooks went on about how Obama failed to galvanize Dems and the only holdouts I see are the PUMAs who still can't accept that Hillary lost but are regular voters and are not about to Liebermanize Congress. Didn't we just have all this huffin and puffin in NY?
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RhodaA
January 12, 2010 5:55 PM in reply to glblank
Nothing whatsoever the media says has any value, except for Maddow and a few others.
If people in this country are to be educated, we need a law to reform the news media. They should not have a blank check to promote lies.
"A lie is not the other side of the story; it is just a lie." (Don't know who said it.)
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Backcountry
January 13, 2010 1:23 AM in reply to RhodaA
I think the First Amendment would preclude a law to reform the news media.
However, it's really wrong that so many people believe false things. There is really a large chunk of the population with absolutely false beliefs based on the right-wing lie machine.
The question is whether having so much disinformation is a service to the country -- or one that the founding fathers ever foresaw. The answer to both are no. So I'm really not sure what to do about False News.
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notthatstupid
January 13, 2010 8:10 AM in reply to RhodaA
Whoever said it was spot on. Thanks for sharing it.
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JadeZ
January 12, 2010 5:24 PM
Make what you will of polls but the democrats are seeing they will pay mightily for disregarding the average American in favor of the bankers and wall street.
There are no safe states if a dem can be this close in the Kennedy seat.
No one is coming out to support the democrats who showed that even with control of the government they wont pass a single bill that will help the working class during this depression.
The worse is yet to come because obama already a republican light, will need them to pass any bills after the midterms.
And while he wont mind that ,its not good news for people who actually want to make this country a better place for the average American and not just the war machine and the bankers.
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Stroszek
January 12, 2010 5:36 PM in reply to JadeZ
You're completely incoherent.
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jimbomoron
January 12, 2010 5:42 PM in reply to Stroszek
Hey, Stroszek
Not to change the subject, but I hope you'll come back to Kos real soon. We need more policy wonks like you on DK. We just really need your help.
Thanks.
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jenesq
January 12, 2010 9:17 PM in reply to jimbomoron
Not to speak for Stroszek, but DKos is way too full of irrational-leftist posters like the one Stroszek just responded to, and if I were a betting person, I would bet that this is what keeps "policy wonks" away from that site. DKos has become a hotbed of the liberal equivalent of teabaggers--intellectually dishonest, hysterical, irrational, you name it.
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wellstone
January 12, 2010 9:55 PM in reply to jenesq
No, it hasn't.
Besides. what makes you people think Stros can't post in 2 places??
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GayIthacan
January 12, 2010 5:35 PM
Rasmussen?
You scared me there.
I was thinking you were citing a real pollster. :D
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runfastandwin
January 12, 2010 5:36 PM
It might be just as well for the Democrats, then we can stop this silly notion that we MUST HAVE 60 votes to pass anything. We can jettison Leiberman and ignore the DINOs and actually get some good progressive legislation done.
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Stroszek
January 12, 2010 5:40 PM in reply to runfastandwin
That's just delusional. The Senate rules aren't going to magically change if we lost this seat.
But of course, even this poll shows Coakley with a lead, so your dreams of Republican victory haven't come to fruition yet. Far from it.
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willia451
January 12, 2010 5:56 PM in reply to Stroszek
I'm going to have to defend "runfastar" on this one. Maybe losing Ted Kennedy's old seat in bluer than blue Massachusetts would be just the wake-up call the Democrats need.
It would teach them, you cannot win elections by ignoring the core progressive principles of the base of the Party. Continually caving to the conserva-dems on literally everything. As far as I'm concerned, the DINOS are guests in OUR party. If they can't stand with our core progressive values, especially on things like healthcare, THEN GET THE FUCK OUT.
But they won't. Because not even the Republicans would have their sorry asses.
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RhodaA
January 12, 2010 6:08 PM in reply to willia451
Stretch a bow to the very full,
And you will wish you had stopped in time.
Temper a sword-edge to its very sharpest,
And you will find it soon grows dull.
-- Lao Tzu
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Stroszek
January 12, 2010 6:08 PM in reply to willia451
Again, that's delusional. As usual, many on the left have spent too much time in the echo chamber. Only 10% of Americans think Obama isn't liberal enough. 46% think he's too liberal. When Dems lose 20+ House seats later this year, they're not going to take it as a sign that they were too conservative, for better or worse. It's just not how politicians in this country and media environment work.
FDL and the rest of the circular firing squad are only setting us up for a resurgence of DLC'ism ala 1994. If you think the Dems are conservative now, just wait to see what happens when Olympia Snowe's support is necessary for every bill.
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RhodaA
January 12, 2010 6:11 PM in reply to Stroszek
Exactly.
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cawleybo
January 12, 2010 6:56 PM in reply to Stroszek
Ask them what they mean by "too liberal" next time. Nine times out of ten, people support liberal policies even thought they call themselves conservative or independent. They're just conditioned by the republicans and media to have a gag reflex when they hear the word liberal. Likewise, the republicans, as always, have done everything they could to create the pperception that Obama is liberal - a socialist or marxist, even. When Ben Nelson runs in his next election, guess what the republicans will say about him ...
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rwc
January 12, 2010 10:09 PM in reply to cawleybo
Both cawleybo and Stroszek are correct. Most people have no clue what liberal means or stands for except it has bad connotations, but,if for instance, congress suddenly got real liberal and passed a single-payer health plan, cracked down hard on banks and tripled taxes on CEOs, Dems would win elections for decades. But when they lose seats this fall the conventional wisdom will be they were too liberal and we'll have Clintonian trianglization all over again, which is just want the elite wants.
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RhodaA
January 12, 2010 5:41 PM in reply to runfastandwin
From Congress Matters: 6 Ways to End the Fillibuster
http://www.congressmatters.com/storyonly/2010/1/12/2025/-Review:-6-ways-to-end-filibuster-(crosspost-from-DKos)
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willia451
January 12, 2010 5:38 PM
In Massachusetts, for Ted Kennedy's seat.
She should be ahead by 30 points. Even on a Rasmussen Poll.
The fact that its even near the margin of error, speaks to just how seriously the conserva-dems, vis a vis heath care, have damaged the enthusiasm of the base of the Democratic Party.
Its going to be a rough mid-term for Democrats if Coakley can't defend this seat for the Dems.
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GayIthacan
January 12, 2010 6:08 PM
"She should be ahead by 30 points."
Um....no, she shouldn;t. In fact, VERY BERY FEW Democrats have been able to broach even 60% in elections since the 980s.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/01/massachusetts-chart-of-day.html#comments
"but the notion that the Democrat always wins by a 20- or 30- point blowout is just not true. The Democrat received more than 60 percent of the vote on only 4 of 19 occasions and averaged 56.2 points to the Republican's 39.9. And although I generally disdain comparing governor's races to races for the Congress, it is worth remembering that Republicans' controlled the governors' office for 16 consecutive years from 1991 through 2007."
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willia451
January 13, 2010 5:28 AM in reply to GayIthacan
Hyperbole.
The point is, think the Republicans are worried about THEIR Senate chances in states like Utah, Oklahoma, or Alabama?
Mass should be a slam dunk for a Democrat running for the Senate. Especially for Ted Kennedy's old seat. The fact that there is ANY concern, speaks volumes.
At least it does to me.
And it will to everyone else too. Even if Brown does not win; if he even comes close, wait to see what the headlines say come Wed morning.
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Peter Principle
January 12, 2010 6:13 PM
The real question is whether this is a poll that Rasmussen thinks he can rig to pleasure his conservative sponsors/clients, or whether it's high enough visibility -- and likely enough to be remembered after the election -- that he feels he has to play it straight.
I'm guessing the former. Polling in a special election is usually a total crap shoot anyway, which makes it more like that Rasmussen figures he can get away with putting one of his big fat thumbs on the scale.
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GayIthacan
January 12, 2010 6:14 PM in reply to Peter Principle
Absolutely right.
It is the perfect sales pitch and advertisement to right wing organizations and politicians - and carries no downside whatsoever, since it can be completely off-base and carry no consequences, he having the ready-made excuse, "Well, midterms are tough to call....."
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matt in so dak
January 12, 2010 6:31 PM
I wonder if the remaining Dems in the Senate would have the stones to take on the validity of the filibuster? If she loses, we may finally get to find out.
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USgreentech
January 12, 2010 7:24 PM
I doubt that. More media bias against the woman candidate. She would be well ahead without the prejudice.
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M.L.H.
January 12, 2010 7:58 PM
Again, another robo-poll. The percentage of hang-ups makes these things unreliable. I don't care if it's Rasmussen(R) or PPP(D), if the poll has an (A) for automated, the results are suspect.
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JohnMcCSF
January 12, 2010 8:00 PM
Dave Weigel...Rasmussen confirms the obvious
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Maritza
January 12, 2010 9:07 PM
AFL-CIO are getting involved. They are mobilizing the 400,000 union members in the state.
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georgekaplan
January 12, 2010 9:31 PM
Why is it that the Rasmussen poll is always the odd man out?
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USgreentech
January 12, 2010 9:59 PM
Martha Coakley is campaigning so strong. A sure winner.
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wellstone
January 12, 2010 10:06 PM
I am all for pollsters like Rasmussen. Dems need a wake-up call, and the stupid, blindingly ignorant frenzies that the Right is fomenting are just the ticket to piss Libs off just like we got pissed off in 2006 and 2008.
I also sent money today, and will remote-phone-bank to get people out.
The teabaggers want a fight? Let's go. They are going to regret it. I love how surprised wingnuts are when they get a hard smash to the mouth, and they realize Liberals can fight.
And win, like we have in NY-23, and every other special Election for years now.
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Cal Gal
January 12, 2010 10:54 PM
Turn out, turn out, turn out. Get the women out FOR SURE. Where are the PUMAs when you need them? As to the unions, are they so pissed off about the health insurance plans getting taxed that they won't get out for a Dem in Mass?
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willia451
January 13, 2010 5:36 AM in reply to Cal Gal
I'd be pissed off too. Especially given all the Union support given to the dems over the last few election cycles.
But I think a tipping point has been reached.
Now that the Dems are looking at alternative funding vehicles and a reduction in the tax on "cadillac" plans, I think you'll see the unions come out a little more forcefully.
But you ARE right. Its at least partially a power play.
Tax our plans? Are you SURE you want Coakley to win?
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fpie
January 13, 2010 9:10 AM
Does Mass use either Dibold or ES&S voting equipment and systems? And when will the Dems in congress ever investigate those GOP shills?
Any election showing polls even slightly close where those systems are used will absolutly fall to the GOPer.
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Tosh
June 6, 2010 5:28 AM
I'm going to have to defend "runfastar" on this one. Maybe losing Ted Kennedy's old seat in bluer than blue Massachusetts would be just the wake-up call the Democrats need.
It would teach them, you cannot win elections by ignoring the core progressive principles of the base of the Party. Continually caving to the conserva-dems on literally everything. As far as I'm concerned, the DINOS are guests in OUR party. If they can't stand with our core progressive values, especially on things like healthcare, THEN GET THE FUCK OUT.
But they won't. Because not even the Republicans would have their sorry asses.
m65 kamagra
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