
Sen. Jim Webb is no stranger to butting heads with presidents, but his recent direct challenges to President Obama's agenda have been raising eyebrows and his national profile.
Polls had been closed in Massachusetts for less than two hours when Webb (D-VA) issued a statement putting the brakes on health care reform. He'd voted for the Senate bill, but that was after weeks of pressuring Senate leaders to be more transparent about the process and wavering on whether he'd actually vote to break a Republican filibuster.
Webb's latest critique is of the Obama administration's decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York City, and he hasn't been shy about calling for something different.
Webb told reporters yesterday that "The people who really want to solve the problems in this country are going to start working across the aisle to get things done."
He cited his fight to pass a GI Bill of Rights and said he's proudest of "what I like to call my own management model, a leadership model" of working with others.
"I think we can set the example up here, and take up these contentious issues and actually bring people together, we can do good things for the country," he said.
Webb hit that point in a pre-response to Obama's State of the Union address:
The overriding objective of the President and the Congress over the next year must be to offer the kind of leadership that regains the confidence of the American people in our system, in our deliberative process, and above all in our leaders. With that in mind, my colleagues on both sides of the aisle should work ever harder to approach the issues that face us with less partisan maneuvering and a more genuine commitment to resolving the truly daunting challenges that now face working Americans.
Webb complimented the Obama address in his conference call.
His election in 2006 is the entire reason Democrats won back the United States Senate, and he demanded prestigious committee posts from Democratic leadership in part because of his surprise win.
Democrats tapped Webb to deliver their rebuttal to then-President George W. Bush's State of the Union address, which focused on national security. He also sparred with Bush over his son Jimmy Webb, who served in Iraq.
The Republican-turned-Democrat already is raising money for his reelection fight, and recently redesigned his campaign Web site. (George Allen, the Republican he unseated, polls well in a potential rematch.)
He told reporters yesterday he believes it is not "proper" to try suspected 9/11 terrorists in American courts or house them in American prisons.
As I reported two years ago, Webb's friends told me privately on the campaign trail in fall 2006 that he had expressed interest in the presidency.
He was eyed briefly for the vice presidential ticket, but said early in the process he wasn't interested.
Webb has long decried "gotcha" politics, and rarely gives interviews, though TPMDC tried to score one for this piece.
"To the American voters, I would offer this small piece of advice: Be just as shrewd and ruthless in your demands on our leaders as the political wizards who are running these campaigns are in their strategies designed to get your vote," Webb wrote in his 2008 book, "A Time to Fight: Reclaiming a Fair and Just America."
"You won't regret it. You will benefit from it," he wrote.
At the time he called the book "a series of think pieces" that helped him delve deeper into the problems facing the nation.
"I was trying to get beyond just the sound bites in which we pretty much have to live up here," he said.
Late Update: Webb spokeswoman Jessica Smith stressed to TPMDC that her boss has a good working relationship with Obama. She also provided this statement:
Sen. Webb is very deliberative about the positions he takes and votes he casts. It's true that these positions don't always align with the party agenda; but to know Senator Webb is to know that he's independent-minded and votes his conscience. And, I think most Americans would argue that that's what good governing is about.He is solely focused on the job he was elected to do in the Senate.
Additional reporting by Eric Kleefeld.
converse
January 29, 2010 2:13 PM
M'eh.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
January 29, 2010 2:22 PM
Never understood why so many "progressives" thought this guy was just the greatest thing evah.
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Rockridge
January 29, 2010 3:21 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
A Republican who switched sides and beat a stone conservative. What's not to like? Maybe that was before progressives realized that they have sole possession of truth and have become keepers of the Scrolls.
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OhioGuy
January 29, 2010 3:26 PM in reply to Rockridge
That was then, when we had President W and we were happy for a big tent strategy to keep the country from completely going over the edge of madness.
Now that the revolution is well underway and 99% of The People are to the left of Obama we don't need these red state Democrats.
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ChrisB
January 29, 2010 4:02 PM in reply to OhioGuy
how are 99% of "the people" to the left of Obama? either you have no understanding of math or you don't count conservatives as people. either way, grow up.
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GermanyOrFlorida
February 1, 2010 9:54 AM in reply to ChrisB
99% of the people aren't to the left of Obama in reality - that was the OP's point. Progressives seem to think 99% of the people are left of Obama though.
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Kevin Sutton
January 29, 2010 3:57 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
You're right. In the future progressive should not temporarily put aside differences and back conservative Democrats to beat Republicans. Because that's what you want to happen right? Or are you just taking cheap shots at progressives for doing things you want them to do?
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TheRealFish
January 30, 2010 2:07 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Roger that. At this moment, Reid needs to start trimming his count (paring it back to 50) to find actual party loyalists that will vote through reconciliation changes to the existing senate HCR bill, so the house can feel better assured and pass that thing like this month maybe? Even with the herd of DINOs (like Webb), they should be able to come up with 50.
About the whole thing of declaring the American justice system a dangerously incapable, pitiable thing — as these quaking conservative cowards do — they should be publicly shamed and shunned for expressing such opinions against this third branch of our government. Or, as responsible legislators, these disloyalists should be recommending how to fix the system they imply is so broken rather than finding ways to avoid using it.
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Docb
January 31, 2010 2:38 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
We do not need more straight party ticket dems--I often do not agree with Webb but his thoughts bring a point to many Corporate Dem shills..Therefore positioning the Congress more to what the people want/need and less to what their lobbyists have sold to them. Webb plays devils advocate well!
If we do not have a balance in the Congress at least we have thoughtful Dems...The rest are just sheep!
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rhallnj
January 29, 2010 2:23 PM
The James Webb of the 60's was not afraid of the North Vietnamese Army, but the Webb of today is intimidated by Teabaggers.
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SleepinJeezus
January 30, 2010 11:24 AM in reply to rhallnj
Bingo!
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SleepinJeezus
January 30, 2010 11:27 AM in reply to SleepinJeezus
Difference being in Vietnam, if he would have forever been standing with his finger in the air to judge which way the wind was blowing instead of actually leading the troops, he would have got it shot off!
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Trader
January 30, 2010 1:52 PM in reply to rhallnj
I smile in amusement whenever I see Leftists refer to the Tea Party folks as "teabaggers". I mean, you do know what the term means...correct?
So, if the left views the Tea Party folks as "teabaggers", what does that make the Left? The teabagged, that's what! How does that sack taste there teabaggee?
Leftism is on its way out in this country, the pendulum has already begun its trip back down and it ain't going to stop at the bottom either. We'll be cleaning your clocks in November and 2012.
BTW, the Tea Party political movement is made up of Republicans, Democrats & Independents that are all thoroughly sick of the Lefty Marxist twits in this country.
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SleepinJeezus
January 30, 2010 2:27 PM in reply to Trader
Pretty profound political analysis there, sport! I can almost see the Cheeto's dust on the keyboard from here! I warn you, however, strain any harder and you'll raise a hemorrhoid, thus ruining your self-prized status as a perfect asshole.
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Trader
January 30, 2010 2:51 PM in reply to SleepinJeezus
Your reply is everything I would expect from a Leftist, I must have really hit the target. What's the matter? Did you get drunk in college, pass out and get teabagged? It traumatized you didn't it? Cheeto's dust...strain...hemorrhoid...asshole, my, you reveal so much about yourself. Tell me, do you cry yourself to sleep at night?
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to Trader
How childish! In other words: "I know you are, but what am I?" I haven't heard that retort since my children were 4 years old!
The only people being "tea-bagged" are the suckers that paid $500 to go to their lame convention.
I call them tea-baggers because they have them hanging off their stupid hats! The ignorance is beyond belief. I'll stop calling them tea-baggers when right-wing people stop referring to the "Democrat Party."
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Trader
January 30, 2010 3:19 PM in reply to CVille Dem
How childish! In other words: "I know you are, but what am I?" I haven't heard that retort since my children were 4 years old!
Childish, is referring to people that disagree with your viewpoint by using a slang expression that refers to a deviant sexual activity typically practiced by homosexuals. You are the one saying: "I know you are, but what am I?". I didn't say that...project much?
The only people being "tea-bagged" are the suckers that paid $500 to go to their lame convention.
On this point we can agree, well, at least as far as the convention being lame. However, it is their money so why would you care what they spend it on? Why do you feel so threatened by the Tea Party and what they do?
I call them tea-baggers because they have them hanging off their stupid hats! The ignorance is beyond belief. I'll stop calling them tea-baggers when right-wing people stop referring to the "Democrat Party."
You must have a lot of residual teenage angst that you have never dealt with. That is rather childish to fixate on a hat that was very stylish back in the Colonial Period. Why are they ignorant? Is it because they disagree with you, and all you can do about is rant with impotent rage? Yeah, that must be it. Maybe the right-wing will stop referring to your Party as the "Democrat Party" if it actually acted Democratic versus Marxist.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 3:47 PM in reply to Trader
Impotent? I'm afraid it is you who is projecting!
Too bad. But your insurance probably covers the medications that will help that problem. How do I know you have insurance? Because the tea-baggers only want to keep what they already have and couldn't care less about the millions of Americans who don't have it.
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Trader
January 30, 2010 4:47 PM in reply to CVille Dem
Ah, the sweet sweet irony. Now you are the one engaging in: "I know you are, but what am I?" behavior. You know my Leftist friend, life is hard, it's even harder when you're as dumb as most Leftists.
And here you engage in even more classical Leftist behavior, you assume that I am part of the Tea Party. I'm not. You assume that I have Health Insurance. I don't. You assume that those of us opposed to the Obama/Democrat attempt to unconstitutionally nationalize 1/6th of the U.S. economy are heartless fiends only wanting to deny health care to millions and bajillions of people. We do not.
You do realize that anyone, from indigent citizens to illegal aliens can walk into any Emergency Room at any hospital and receive care, regardless of how much that care ultimately costs? That is Federal Law, and has been for as long as I can remember. That fact renders the Lefts Strawman about millions uninsured rather empty...wouldn't you agree.
No, the Left, parasites that you are, would rather see health care in this country Nationalized/Socialized even though it has been an abysmal failure everywhere it has ever been implemented. Just look at Massachusetts for the closest example.
You would rather have your Marxist wet dream of Universal health care even though it would cause costs to sky-rocket, lower quality and availability for everyone except Big Labor, Political Elites and other exempted parties. I guess that is okay with you as long as we are all suffering equally. Well, except for the aforementioned groups.
No thanks! We'll run the clock out and this Marxist pile will die its deserved death, then, in November and 2012 we will flush the Marxist toilet that Congress has become.
And we will savor the Lefts tears like fine wine. Oh, a parting shot, if you have insurance I would look into whether it covers grief counseling, after the mid-terms and 2012 you're going to need it. Thanks for playing.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 5:27 PM in reply to Trader
You are so funny! You should do stand-up!
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wbgonne
January 30, 2010 5:38 PM in reply to Trader
LET CORPORATE FACISM RING! (It's the new freedom.) I have an idea: why don't we stop pretending the corporate elite actually have anything to sell to us. We regular Americans should just send every super-rich person half of our income and savings. Then we can cut out the government middleman. More efficient, you know.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 5:56 PM in reply to Trader
Actually, it is our current health system that is an abysmal failure. Check out the facts. I won't do your googling for you. But keep it up -- you are really good for comic relief!
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patmcgrowen
January 31, 2010 2:21 PM in reply to Trader
You are just hear wasting everyone's time and energy.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 6:03 PM in reply to Trader
"Deviant sexual behavior?" Why are you right-wingers so pathetic about sex? (At least on paper, anyway) Who have 90% of the sex scandals been about? republicans -- the republican men like prostitutes that put diapers on them; young boys; and anything else they think they can get away with.
I have news for you;
1. Homosexuality is not a crime
2. Heterosexuals also do this "depraved act" which is, after all, personal. I thought you didn't like "Big Government."
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Trader
January 30, 2010 7:56 PM in reply to CVille Dem
Why does calling a deviant sexual behavior, a deviant sexual behavior lead to such pitiful wails by the Left suggesting that Conservatives are pathetic about sex? Democrat politicians have been involved in just as many sex scandals as Republicans. Your statement that 90% of them are on the Right is rubbish, if the Left Biased Media actually reported honestly, you would know that. Have another glass of Kool-Aid.
Why is it that you feel homosexuality is a crime? You know, I never said or implied it was. Yet, you take a few hours of tortured thought and then throw out this strawman argument. Very typical of the Left, never address anything substantive; just resort to ad-hominem attacks, name calling and strawman arguments. Now that is pathetic. You see when you engage in these types of tactics it actually reveals your true inner beliefs.
I'm a heterosexual, and I can tell you that most heterosexuals do not engage in this activity. I don't care for "Big Government" (BG), what people do in privacy is their business. Why would you insinuate that I was in favor of BG? Oh, I see, another strawman argument. Your side is SO pathetic, now that the Left no longer has a lock on the dissemination of information, your political ideology is going to wither and die. Good riddance.
BTW, our Health Care System is the best in the world, 85% of the U.S. population is insured and happy with their coverage. People come here from all over the world for treatment. The only things that are wrong with it is:
1. Over regulated due to excessive and intrusive Leftist policies.
2. Uncontrolled abuse of the Legal System (Tort) by unscrupulous Lawyers looking for a payday.
3. Antiquated regulations that prevent free market competition by restricting the sale of insurance policies across State lines.
Hey, I'm logging this exchange, your nym, & the date. I'll look you up after the November elections so I can taunt you. It will be sweet. Take care, Pinhead. I am done slumming for the day. Thank You for the entertainment.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 8:17 PM in reply to Trader
Oh. So why are you writing paragraph after paragraph supposedly defending yourself? You are a joke, and we are; all laughing!
And what was it you said about homosexual behavior? As though you didn't condemn it?
Your very words""
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a slang expression that refers to a deviant sexual activity typically practiced by homosexuals. "
Go ahead, loser. Try to spin this Your teabagging pals are the only people who will swallow it, but I guess they are used to swallowing "stuff."
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Trader
January 30, 2010 8:52 PM in reply to CVille Dem
Defending myself? I'm not defending myself, I am yanking your string you pathetic knucklehead. And you just keep coming back. Oh, what is the "we" nonsense? You are the only one that keeps coming back for the abuse. If anyone is being laughed at, it is you.
You're not very good with the whole English and reading comprehension thing are you? Even after cutting and pasting my very words, you still can't comprehend that I didn't condemn the act, I just characterized as "deviant" and noted that it was primarily engaged in by homosexuals. Ah, I get it, you are a homosexual! I do apologize for hurting your feelings.
Yes! We are going to "teabag" the Left in November, you'll love it. You know, therapy might help you come to terms with your latent homosexuality. Really, it is nothing to be ashamed of...you can come out of the closet now.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 8:58 PM in reply to Trader
Hey! Obviously I struck a nerve! You are a sad case, but also comical! A strange combination, but then, actually pretty typical. Have fun "tea-bagging" your pals
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Trader
January 30, 2010 9:09 PM in reply to CVille Dem
[Smile]
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 10:09 PM in reply to Trader
Oh, you just don't know how to respond. I see your "smile." It is the smile of the loser of an argument. Hahahahaha! You are a riot! Thanks for the laugh!
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Trader
January 30, 2010 10:32 PM in reply to CVille Dem
Yes! Of course, you are right. I am a loser! You are welcome, I am glad that I could entertain you, and give you some laughs. That is what we silly right-wing teabaggers are here for. Pay no mind to our pitiful bleating.
[Smile]
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 10:39 PM in reply to Trader
OK,
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Trader
January 30, 2010 8:05 PM in reply to CVille Dem
Oh, one last thing. I never called teabagging a "depraved act" as you have me quoted. You called it that. And that is text book example of projection. In your pathetic attempt to rebut my post, you quote me as saying something the record clearly shows I did not. And that is why your side is going to get its backside torn off and handed to you.
Real, Americans, are on to the Lefts game, we're going to borrow your playbook and Alinsky tactics and thrash you with them.
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wbgonne
January 31, 2010 10:29 AM in reply to Trader
Why don't you work out your sexual issues elsewhere?
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tres
January 31, 2010 11:19 PM in reply to Trader
In English, there's these things called verbs. They connote the performance of some action. Teabagging is to perform an action, and my friend, I'm sorry, but you got the giving and receiving backwards.
So, we do very much hope you keep on teabagging; it's somewhat amusing, but even more, it's impossible for the Republican party to cover up just how warped conservative 'values' are while you all keep spewing your crap.
And we smile... the recipient of the teabagger's action.
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nova voter
January 29, 2010 2:25 PM
i voted for webb -- he barely beat george allen. i'm not so sure it's a vote i'll cast again.
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Cal Gal
January 29, 2010 3:06 PM in reply to nova voter
Oh come on. He may be "independent." He may be headstrong. He may want to work "across the aisle."
But to be sorry he beat George "Macaca" Allen?
That's going too far.
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Rockridge
January 29, 2010 3:23 PM in reply to nova voter
Why not? Seriously.
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Dorn76
January 29, 2010 2:26 PM
Oh, I understand now..... "working across the aisle" is the key to getting things done! Wow, thanks Senator.
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CityGuy
January 29, 2010 3:09 PM in reply to Dorn76
Yeah especially since the Repukes have made it no secret that they oppose ANY measure that Obama puts forward. They view the "Party of No" as the party that retakes control of Congress and America. So yes, let's go for bi-partisanship! Just see if any GOPers take you up on that idea.
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Indie Pro
January 29, 2010 2:28 PM
One Conservative Democrat Cites His Own Leadership Model For Bipartisanship Against Another Conservative Democrat.
Instead of arguing, both decide to take in a Ronald Reagan Movie and a Beer. The Opposition, the Conservative Republicans bristle at that decision, "Reagan is Our's dammit!"
Bipartisanship between different brands of Conservatives still in doubt.
Bah! Didn't the "Macaca Moment" gain Webb around 10 points in the polls? Wasn't that a factor in this guys election?
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KeithL
January 29, 2010 2:49 PM
It's obvious the only concern of Jim Webb is the future Presidential aspirations of (who could have predicted it?) Jim Webb. I understand the argument that Dems from conservative (reactionary?) areas may need to, or even believe in, a more "conservative" approach this governance thingy.
However, Jim's egos is clearly greater than his mastiff-sized head. These pronouncements reek of ambition. Ever since he was elected, his party loyalty remains undemonstrated. He seems to be yet another "Reagan Democrat" who some eager supporters worshiped because of his previous, military career.
I contributed to his original campaign, against Macaca Allen. I very possibly would contribute to a progressive, primary challenger in 2011. I'm happy he's not MY Senator.
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brewmn61
January 29, 2010 4:20 PM in reply to KeithL
"However, Jim's egos is clearly greater than his mastiff-sized head."
LOL. Snort.
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oisin
January 30, 2010 5:31 PM in reply to KeithL
Indeed. Democracy in this country is on the ropes, with neither party able to do anything constructive about the central political problem of the times, the erosion of the middle-class. Keep an eye on Webb. With his military background, his massive ego, and a veneer of populist "centrism", he is just the sort of figure who could emerge in the next six or ten years as a crypto-fascist "strong leader" promising to save us from the rotting corpse of our democracy.
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Rich in NJ
January 29, 2010 2:50 PM
I think we need to purge the DINOs.
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Measure for Measure
January 29, 2010 4:19 PM in reply to Rich in NJ
Well, I disagree. We should purge DINOs in blue states, but keep them in red and purple states.
Webb only has influence insofar as 60 votes are required to pass legislation in the Senate. Overuse of the filibuster is the problem: the Senate majority should streamline its rules and end the filibusters and holds altogether.
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Rich in NJ
January 29, 2010 7:06 PM in reply to Measure for Measure
If we can't pass HCR, what good is he?
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shekissesfrogs
January 30, 2010 8:54 AM in reply to Measure for Measure
There is no filibuster; There is a rule they've imposed to end debate.It is not in the constitution. If they got rid of the rule(not a big deal), and brought back the filibuster the senate would work again, but these lazy asses would have to stand and deliver. After all senators have given spoken twice then it goes up for a vote. It would only need 51 votes to pass.
The 60 vote rule has always been bullshit. Democrats are liars just like Republicans.
Read the links in the second comment. Free yourself with the truth.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/27105#comment-135228
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/26179
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wbgonne
January 30, 2010 10:02 AM in reply to Measure for Measure
I disagree. I think that is just what has got us into this predicament where the Dems control everything and still can't get things done. Focus on the war, not the battle. Run real Democrats not Republicrats. You may lose. In some races it won't even be a contest but so what. You keep promoting your ideas and sponsoring candidates who espouse them. If your ideas are better eventually you will won over enough people. To the contrary, running Republicans disguised as Democrats just undermines the overall message. See, for instance, Blanche Lincoln's website where she attacks "liberal" public interest groups. Worse, look what happened to health care. The Senate Republicrats betrayed their own party on procedural votes, That cannot be allowed in any political party but that's the price you pay when you make a deal with the devil.
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Brainpicnic
January 29, 2010 2:50 PM
Another pol positioning himself with the electorate, because getting re-elected is so much more important than doing what's right for the country.
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chuck DC
January 29, 2010 2:51 PM
someone should tell him that he is already working across the aisle just by being a D senator, given most of his political life he was R.....
He is an interesting guy and a very smart politician, and I bet this is all about his own reelection.
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felix
January 29, 2010 2:55 PM
What a nonsense story! I can't believe this was posted. Sure, just stitch together some quotes, old and new, throw in a brief excerpt from his book, sprinkle in a few random factoids and half-baked conclusions and you pass it off as a major political development. Jim Webb is "moving into oppositon" to Obama???
No, more like Jim Webb, a fairly independent and prickly Senator, is gearing up for reelection. That's all.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
January 29, 2010 3:00 PM in reply to felix
Agree with you on the thinness of the story, but he's not up for reelection until 2012.
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Measure for Measure
January 29, 2010 4:21 PM in reply to felix
I for one liked the compilation. I used to be a Webb supporter. No longer.
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Davis_X_Machina
January 29, 2010 2:56 PM
First there was Sam Nunn, and now Webb. You could put Gary Hart in there too, and maybe Bill Bradley. The ghost of Scoop Jackson is a dead weight on the soul of the Democratic party.
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howie
January 29, 2010 2:58 PM
I think the problem isn't as much that we have a big tent and there are these intraparty squabbles as it is that everytime we have one a dozen "Dems in disarray" articles show up in papers, blogs, and teevee.
Meanwhile, the Tea Parties and Club for Growth rip apart the GOP and there isn't anywhere near the attention given to that destruction.
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Harry Truman
January 29, 2010 3:12 PM in reply to howie
Amen to your first paragraph. I don't watch Fox so I can't comment on the second, but it sounds right.
Presidents like LBJ and FDR were able to keep their circus acts within the big tent because they were skilled politicians. Obama seems to have a disdain for politics, like it was latrine duty or something. Like someone was quoted last week, no one likes someone who acts like he's the smartest guy in the room, even if he is. Instead of lounging around with Republicans who will never support him even if he asked them to pass a bill banning flag burning, he should read Caro's "Master of the Senate" and Smith's "FDR" and call in the Webbs, Baucus' & the like and get the job done.
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pol
January 29, 2010 3:06 PM
I don't know... I'm a Democrat from Virginia. He's surprised me so far, but I always figured Webb was a true Republican in sheep's clothing -- a DINO -- and questioned why the Virginia Democratic Party was supporting him as our candidate. I figured he'd either jump ship or be a very conservative Dem. He probably doesn't want to change to the Whacko Party now, so he's decided he'll try to take Obama's job.
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Seeryer
January 29, 2010 3:07 PM
The overriding objective of the President and the Congress over the next year must be to offer the kind of leadership that regains the confidence of the American people in our system, in our deliberative process, and above all in our leaders. With that in mind, my colleagues on both sides of the aisle should work ever harder to approach the issues that face us with less partisan maneuvering and a more genuine commitment to resolving the truly daunting challenges that now face working Americans.
That statement was pretty much the sentiment of the presidents last 10 minutes of his SOTU in my opinion. Seems like some pot stirring Christina B.
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LAB
January 29, 2010 3:13 PM
I am in VA and wrote him about considering reconciliation--here's his canned response:
Dear Ms. Byers:
Thank you for contacting my office regarding health care reform. I appreciate your taking the time to share your views.
I believe the recent election in Massachusetts was, at least in part, a referendum on health care reform and the process by which it was considered. It is vital that we restore the confidence of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. Throughout the debate on health care, I have strongly urged Senate leadership and the Obama Administration to work as transparently as possible.
In keeping with this approach, I conveyed my belief that we should suspend further votes in the Senate on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.
Our country still needs health care reform. The status quo of our present system, which is damaging our ability to compete and threatens to bankrupt our nation, is unacceptable. Across this country, people are one job loss or one illness away from losing their health insurance. We need stable and secure basic health care coverage. In addition, the billions of dollars spent on medical care for the uninsured is a burden borne not only by government at all levels, but by everyone through higher taxes and insurance rates.
As the Senate continues to debate health care reform, please be assured that your views will be very helpful to me and my staff. I hope that you will continue to share your thoughts with us in the years ahead.
Thank you again for your interest in this important matter.
Sincerely,
Jim Webb
United States Senator
JW:kw
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CN
January 29, 2010 3:18 PM
Is Mark Penn advising Webb? That would explain a lot.
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VACommonsense
January 29, 2010 3:28 PM
Not a substantive comment, but "putting the breaks on" is incorrect and impossible. However, it is possible to "put the brakes on"
Regards,
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Joppoi
January 29, 2010 3:36 PM
Way to go, Christina Bellatoni! You found one example of Webb "challenging" Obama (on the terror trial), and your other main point (his focus on bipartisanship) was one of Obama's recurring themes in the SOTU!
You even used the MSM stock line "...raising eyebrows", and like the MSM, neglected to explain exactly whose eyebrows were being raised!
Thanks also for your updates on Tim Pawlenty and Michelle Bachmann's financial situation today!
(Thanks also to Josh for turning TPM into an even shittier version of the Huff Post in the last few months.)
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martis
January 29, 2010 4:39 PM in reply to Joppoi
yes i have also noticed this trend toward HuffPo'ish shittiness. TPM needs to keep it's standards up or I'll be tuning it out in exactly the same way I did with HuffPo a few years back.
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lousgirl84
January 30, 2010 10:04 AM in reply to Joppoi
I agree. I have been making the same comments for a long time. Christina cames from the Wall Street Journal. Does that tell you something? Josh wake up.
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timnlisa1
January 29, 2010 3:57 PM
OK, Here is what I would like Webb and Obama and all like mided centrists and pragmatist to ask the people on the other side. What have the GOP offered up in compromise. In a compromise, each side gives up something that they like or accepts things that they don't. So if it is so important to work together across the aisle, the Dems negotiation starts like this: Dear MR GOP lawmaker. We are willing to give up Single Payer, Medicare for all, public option. We are willing to accept Torte Reform. Now what are you compromising on. Wht will you give up on. What will you accept from our side.
Is it really that difficult to make this talked about. The GOP offering their solution does nothing. They need to talk about what they are willing to accept.
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martis
January 29, 2010 4:36 PM in reply to timnlisa1
Agreed. The issue is not the Jim Webb's of the Senate seeking "bipartisanship" ... the issue is exposing the FACT that the Republicans are absolutely unwilling to "cross the aisle" in any meaningful way. Once that fact becomes evident to the independent voters then the Repub's will be further exposed as incompetent and unable to govern. Only then will the Jim Webb's of the world feel politically comfortable with helping to get shit done.
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onceler
January 29, 2010 4:37 PM
hey Jim Webb, EFF you, buddy. Nobody elected you President. Work on his agenda, or get out of the way. Shut your pie hole the rest of the time.
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1armywife
January 29, 2010 4:50 PM
If you're a Virginia Democrat, write him and complain. If enough people tell him to shut up and get to work, maybe he will.
know hope
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ottis
January 29, 2010 6:11 PM
Jim Webb I don't think you want to be taking on Obama just now. I think he has gone on attack mode. You need to clear out of the way.
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Scott in PacNW
January 29, 2010 6:14 PM
I read the article to get at the content and context of the headline. 404 = content not found
Webb cried about HCR after the MA vote, but I see nothing new here since a week and a half ago.
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dinsdale
January 29, 2010 7:12 PM
Even though he deserves one, my thought is that a primary challenge from the left against Obama would have a very hard time- there is a substantial portion of the "progressive" block that will never vote against Obama. I never really thought about a challenge from the right- I guess it would be a tough haul, but maybe doable if Obama keeps the base demoralized and the corporations open up their wallets for the challenger while denying Obama funding. It would be ironic, at least- the sell out gets sold out.
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Old Marsalla
January 29, 2010 9:23 PM
Obama is more Gerald Ford than Jimmy Carter. He inherited the same divided electorate we have seen since the 90s. I think to call him a sell out is to misread his campaign, his character, and his philosophy. We are better off than we were one year, five years, and nine years ago. I thought he was back in the saddle again today for the first time in a while sparring with the House repubs.
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dolgre
January 29, 2010 9:33 PM
At least with Jim Webb, I know I am getting a principled position from him, even if it is in opposition to my own.
He's not in the same category as Nelson and LIEberman, folks. As long as he is exactly as this article characterizes him--the LOYAL opposition--his input is healthy.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 6:16 PM in reply to dolgre
I reluctantly agree. I do think he votes what he thinks, and that he is open to ideas. I just disagree with him on this.
This statement, however, goes against his previous statements about the need for universal health care.
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Owen
January 29, 2010 10:30 PM
Webb: "The people who really want to solve the problems in this country are going to start working across the aisle to get things done."
I'm really disappointed that this statement is seen as controversial. Are we all turning into liberal versions of Rush Limbaugh?
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Owen
January 29, 2010 10:47 PM
Ms. Bellantoni, you seem to be misrepresenting Sen. Webb's statement. You write that he "issued a statement putting the brakes on health care reform", but your link quotes him as saying "I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated." I believe that this reflects President Obama's opinion as well.
Moreover, your link quotes Sen. Webb as saying "It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders." This was, in a nutshell, the central theme of Obama's SOTU address.
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tgh86
January 30, 2010 12:29 AM
The guy calls himself a "redneck." Nuff said?
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destor23
January 30, 2010 4:31 AM
Obama does need a challenger. But not from the right.
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Buckley
January 30, 2010 7:00 AM
Bag 'o Wind.
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jim43
January 30, 2010 7:59 AM
It's lawmakers like Webb that prove Democratic control is hardly a benefit for the nation. He is so far outside of mainstream values that he really ought to think about switching parties.
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog
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Owen
January 30, 2010 9:31 AM
Webb should replace Harry Reid as Majority Leader. Reid's shameful deal with Ben Nelson is not some private secret that only DC wonks know about, and it's repugnant to virtually everyone. Obama and Webb are absolutely right that our Congress and Senate need to stop being such a cesspool.
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Owen
January 31, 2010 10:33 AM in reply to Owen
I'm still not sure why Webb is being singled out on health care. Here's Harry Reid earlier this week: “We’re not on health care now. We’ve talked a lot about it in the past.” and "There is no rush."
This morning NY Times' Frank Rich called Reid "the face of Democratic fecklessness in the Senate" (see http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/opinion/31rich.html?th&emc=th)
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Apphouse50
January 30, 2010 9:33 AM
I remember a lot of push to get this guy into the Senate, passionate defense of his every breath from birth, blah-blah. Lucky him to have been running against MacacaMan.
He's really starting to get me p'oed now, and I think he needs to STFU.
Yup, that gets my vote. Basta.
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ru4862
January 30, 2010 9:44 AM
Jim Webb was always full of himself. In 2008 i remember when then candidate Obama was looking for a running-mate, Webb issued a statement saying that he had no interest in seeking the vice presidential nomination. And what's funny is Obama had no interest in Webb as a running-mate. Lets be clear. Webb represents a highly competitive state, which Obama won handedly in 2008. If Pres. Obama wanted to kill Webb's career he could do just that.
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An Outhouse
January 30, 2010 10:55 AM
All senators have gigantic egos - its a self selecting process. I didn't realize that people weren't allowed to have differing opinions on some subjects. Webb is very big on prison and drug law reform. His positions are mostly common sensical although I don't agree with all of them.
"I think we can set the example up here, and take up these contentious issues and actually bring people together, we can do good things for the country," he said.
That sounds like Obama.
"it is not "proper" to try suspected 9/11 terrorists in American courts or house them in American prisons."
Then where? There really isn't any legitimate constitutional alternative.
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Trader
January 30, 2010 8:46 PM
Defending myself? I'm not defending myself, I am yanking your string you pathetic knucklehead. And you just keep coming back. Oh, what is the "we" nonsense? You are the only one that keeps coming back for the abuse. If anyone is being laughed at, it is you.
You're not very good with the whole English and reading comprehension thing are you? Even after cutting and pasting my very words, you still can't comprehend that I didn't condemn the act, I just characterized as "deviant" and noted that it was primarily engaged in by homosexuals. Ah, I get it, you are a homosexual! I do apologize for hurting your feelings.
Yes! We are going to "teabag" the Left in November, you'll love it. You know, therapy might help you come to terms with your latent homosexuality. Really, it is nothing to be ashamed of...you can come out of the closet now.
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CVille Dem
January 30, 2010 9:07 PM
See you in November, Sex-addict!
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Owen
January 31, 2010 10:29 AM
I'm still not sure why Webb is being singled out on health care. Here's Harry Reid earlier this week: “We’re not on health care now. We’ve talked a lot about it in the past.” and "There is no rush."
This morning NY Times' Frank Rich called Reid "the face of Democratic fecklessness in the Senate" (see http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/opinion/31rich.html?th&emc=th)
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AlphaLiberal
January 31, 2010 1:01 PM
I really like Jim Webb and hope he is not setting out to follow in the footsteps of Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman.
Say it ain't so, Jim! We need you to stand up against the Rs and show the Dems how to fight again!
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decisivemoment
January 31, 2010 5:23 PM
Nothing new here, folks. Webb has always been a security hawk and he's a reluctant supporter of health care reform. I don't see where there's a change here. In general I'll add that I think TPM is very prone to MSM-style sensationalizing of some fairly minor stuff.
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Spiffarino
February 1, 2010 3:25 PM
Webb has always been conservative on many issues. He's a Reagan Democrat and has never been a true progressive. Unlike Lieberman, however, he represents a fairly conservative state and his politics are in line with Virginia's far more than Holy Joe's are with Connecticut.
We need to keep Webb in the Senate because - so far anyway - he's been reliable on procedural issues, is one of the more honest people in American politics, and has a steel-trap mind. I'd rather have him on our side even if it's just mostly.
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