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The White House had no contingency plan for health care reform if Democrat Martha Coakley lost the special election in Massachusetts, and officials did not discuss the possibility a Democratic loss would dramatically imperil their legislative efforts, a top adviser said today.

President Obama's senior advisor David Axelrod said there "wasn't much discussion" about an alternative path to passing health care with just 59 Democrats in the Senate because there was "widespread assumption was that that seat was safe."

"The truth is the flares went up about 10 days before that election," Axelrod said during a briefing today with reporters and opinion-makers.

"There wasn't much discussion about the implications if the thing went the other way," he said.

As we've reported, national Democrats blame Attorney General Martha Coakley and her staff for not running a more aggressive campaign. Axelrod said her camp only asked for Obama to campaign there for her the Thursday or Friday before the election.

"We were reliant on the campaign to tell us what their needs were and when they did, we responded," he said. "Unfortunately it came late in the game."

By then, Republican Scott Brown already had amassed the political momentum that helped him win the special election.

Axelrod said he was happy to take whatever blame people want to affix to the White House. He said the administration has been open about the need for "more robust intelligence gathering in the future" and that's one reason former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe is stepping up his role in the leadup to the 2010 midterm elections.

We'll have more soon from the Axelrod briefing, including the White House view of a path forward on health care now and a plan to be more aggressive highlighting Republican obstructionism.

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January 28, 2010 6:08 PM   

I can completely understand not having a contingency plan if the Kennedy seat flipped. However, Robert Byrd is pretty frail, and he is 92. Um, I don't want to be too blunt about this, but surely the possibility of losing a Democrat might have occurred to them? I realize that WV has a Democratic governor, but we've seen how filling a seat can be kinda time-consuming. . .

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January 28, 2010 6:20 PM    in reply to CT Voter

It no longer matters if Byrd is there or not. Whether we have 58 or 59 Senators, if the Republicans stick together, we can no longer get cloture on anything.

As Nelson demonstrated yesterday, sending the HCR bill back to the Senate after the conference version would have encountered more hurdles from our own side.

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January 28, 2010 6:35 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Besides, if Byrd passes away, the Governor of West Virginia is Democratic and would presumably appoint a Democratic replacement, who would serve until the next Congressional election.

One of the problems in MA was the Democratic-dominated legislature changed the Senate appointment law in 2004 because it feared Mitt Romney appointing a Republican if John Kerry won the Presidency. When they changed the law again last year, it was only to allow a temporary appointment until a special election could be held within a few months' time. They still had to have the off-season special election.

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January 29, 2010 12:09 AM    in reply to jdb316

Fair points to bring up re: Byrd - except that West Virginia law provides for the governor to appoint a vacant U.S. Senate seat:

Any vacancy occurring in the office of secretary of state, auditor, treasurer, attorney general, commissioner of agriculture, United States senator, judge of the supreme court of appeals or in any office created or made elective to be filled by the voters of the entire state, judge of a circuit court or judge of a family court is filled by the governor of the state by appointment.

http://www.sos.wv.gov/public-services/execrecords/appointments/Pages/WVCodeAppointments.aspx

The current governor of West Virginia is Joe Manchin III, a Democrat.

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January 29, 2010 8:30 AM    in reply to Jake

But is he a conservative dem? I heard he was

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January 28, 2010 6:42 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Of course it doesn't matter NOW--my point was that there was the possibility for losing a Democrat even before the Coakley clusterf#ck.

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January 28, 2010 6:35 PM    in reply to CT Voter

What's lost in the Byrd scenario is the tailspin and panic effect that the loss in MA created. The loss itself was minor compared to the complete tail-tucking freakout that occurred from our side. Actually, the better criticism more applicable to the WH team is not about Coakley's loss but rather why they didn't send a fire alarm out to Congress to shore up the ranks in advance of the election.

The panic fest has cost us weeks.

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January 28, 2010 7:42 PM    in reply to fbacon2

I agree that the WH should have prepared for losing a seat and (iexplicably) was caught by surprise.

But I disagree very strongly with people who think the WH should manage House and Senate campaigns. The administration has its hands full dealing with WH matters.

Voters in the primaries have a duty to pick the best possible candidates, and then those candidates have a duty to get their rear-ends out and win their own elections.

I have not known of any president--Democrat or Republican--who forced himself on a local campaign. The local campaign is in the best position to say when they need help and who would be the best person to render it. That person is not always the president, by the way.

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January 28, 2010 9:21 PM    in reply to mrut

Well, surely you're aware that the Senate Campaign Committee is involved with recruiting candidates and assisting with their campaigns? Same with the House Committee?

I don't think anyone is suggesting exerting control over the primary. But a federal election is important at the national level and I would expect the candidate to receive national assistance in the campaign--and early on, not weeks later.

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January 28, 2010 6:12 PM   

This was his job. Watching the polls and staying on top of the pulse of evert election in the country is the only damn reason he is in the administration. Can you imagine Rove making this mistake, particularly in a state that Alexrod had extensive recent experience in (he ran Gov. Duval's campaign there).

No. Alexrod dropped the ball, he should resign. He isn't there to make policy- he is the campaign guy. If he can't do his job and read the polls then find someone who can. In today's media world (where Fox dominates) we need to be on offense all the time.

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January 28, 2010 6:27 PM    in reply to Saladin

OK. Let's dismantle this bullshit post.

1. Patrick Gaspard, not David Axelrod is the White House political director. The Political Director's job is to direct politics for the White House, not every lameassed Democrat in the country!

2. It was inconceivable that Coakley would lose until two weeks before the election.

3. If the White House is supposed to run all of the Congressional races, why do we need a DCCC or DSCC?

4. Axelrod ran Patrick's campaign. Sooooooo? Coakley LIVES in MA and is the AG. If she and her pollster were clueless why is Axelrod supposed to be the clarion call?

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January 28, 2010 6:37 PM    in reply to FreeRider

"2. It was inconceivable that Coakley would lose until two weeks before the election."

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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January 28, 2010 11:54 PM    in reply to Acewrap

What word? Polls showed Coakley well outside the margin of error until 10-15 days before the election. As for the rest of FreeRide's points, she/he is correct. Axelrod isn't the end-all-be-all of all Democratic campaign strategy and isn't even in charge of it in the White House. The DSCC and the Coakley campaign ultimately dropped the ball. Unfortunately, the rest of the progressive movement has to suffer from this.

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January 29, 2010 12:12 AM    in reply to Jake

These folks are Democrats and they are in charge. They should be talking to one another and creating the grand strategic plan for getting RESULTS. Those results are legislative victories as well as election victories as well as messaging victories.

I don't really care who had what title and where their office was. The functions are there--and Obama was to assign "someone" to be on top of those functions. And, at times, only Obama could really set the strategy--like the timeline for the healthcare legislation.

None of this was apparently done since everyone was thinking it was someone else's job.....or it was no one's job....and here we all sit with healthcare not done.

Pathetic.

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January 29, 2010 1:05 AM    in reply to cube3u

I understand the point cube3u is trying to make. The writing was on the wall since summer. A rebellious unease amongst the progressive base of the party, and the taking control of defining the WH message by conservative/MSM media made it obvious this was not going to be an election kind to Democrats. Incompetence, by paid "professionals" is all I can say.

To ignore the fact that progressives have been shouting at the top of their lungs that certain things needed to get done, and were non-negotiable, and then claim there was no indication of a back lash towards Democrats, is to forfeit any sort of intelligence.

What's worse is the misunderstood behind the discountent of the American public. The party has gone "too liberal" is absolutely the wrong message to receive. The choice to vote for a real Republican or a Republican light assures certain defeat in November.

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January 29, 2010 1:39 AM    in reply to cube3u

There is no difference between the two parties. The people in charge are the corporations, legally certified as this nation's rulers last week by the corrupt supreme court. They allow nothing to pass that interfer with profits, to hell with the American citizen. Both parties serve the same masters, and they ain't the American people.
Shifting the positions of the puppet leaders is about as productive as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. We have lost our country, and political action happens behind closed doors, we get nothing but theatre and finger-pointing.

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January 29, 2010 8:35 AM    in reply to Jake

Actually Free Rider makes excellent points (as usual, IMO). I am sure again agrees also (Lol)

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January 29, 2010 9:26 AM    in reply to Jake

MA Dem party leaders should take all of the blame -- they were on the ground there. I've heard from a source inside the Dem party that this was a Berkshire County vs. the rest of the state issue. Still, there should have been an appeal for the Dems to stick together.

Coakley ran a bad campaign and Dems assumed she would win anyhow. A lot of Dems stayed home. I phone banked for Coakley and spent 10 minutes convincing a die-hard Democrat to vote for Coakley - he was that disgusted.

Dems will win the seat back in 2012, but it means time and energy putting MA back in the blue column when progressives could be working to flip other seats.

And the MA Democratic party BETTER be working right now on the 2012 campaign instead of a circular firing squad over who was wrong.

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January 29, 2010 6:23 AM    in reply to Acewrap

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January 28, 2010 6:53 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I'm not a highly paid political operative, but sitting here in Boston it was clear to me by mid-December that Coakley was in trouble. She ran one of the most inept campaigns I've ever seen. If this was such a Democratic state, she would have lost by 20 points.

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January 28, 2010 6:55 PM    in reply to rwc

oppa- meant: if this wasn't such as Democratic state

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January 28, 2010 7:59 PM    in reply to rwc

OK. You're in MA and you figured it out. Then surely Coakley should have figured it out and got her ass in gear. The White House has so much shit on its plate and it's supposed to run every Congressional race, too.

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January 28, 2010 11:13 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Are you being deliberately obtuse? We have a Party and that party elects folks who are supposed to enact our platform and any other needed legislation. To do that means we have to have the numbers--and it's best that we have the Prez.

There has to be a strategic plan and folks to execute that plan. The prez also becomes titular head of the party with the goals of enacting our platform. He can delegate these tasks and focus them somewhere other than the WH--but he doesn't get to squirm out of these tasks with these sorts of lame excuses.

If he's been doing that, then he needs to stop pronto and step up to the plate. We elected him because we thought when he swung at the ball he had a good chance of hitting it. Those hits include legislation and winning campaigns for all federal elected officials.

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January 28, 2010 11:44 PM    in reply to cube3u

Of course he is being deliberately obtuse. The shit in MA should have been on the WH's plate too along with what other shit already there simply because of the consequence of lose Ted Kennedy's seat. Ok i'll spell it out because of the obtuseness. Losing Kennedy's seat means losing the ability to beat the filibuster. Its colossal failure in MA is as much the WH's failure as it is Coakley's.

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January 29, 2010 1:34 AM    in reply to CharlesBrown

Not too mention "the buck stops here." Obama is in charge, it falls on his watch. I still support the guy, but barely.

Results! Results now! Not economically, diplomatically, bipartisanship, or a feel good all over love fest, but in legislation. Meaningful, social reform. Give us something to hang our hat on.

Eventually, good legislation, like the public option and ending corporate sponsorship of elected officials, will dramatically improve public confidence. This is the number one argument progressives have been trying to make but have fallen on death ears.

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January 28, 2010 8:12 PM    in reply to FreeRider

If the White House is supposed to run all of the Congressional races, why do we need a DCCC or DSCC?

Nobody thinks the WH should run the campaigns. But the WH should have enough competence to have contingency plans in place, in the event that the candidate in question either 1) wins, or 2) loses. Isn't that just basic management skills?

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January 28, 2010 8:17 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Sorry, I expect my political leaders to know what is happening everywhere that matters. I expect them to have other sources of information rather then just the campaign- particularly in states where they have extensive contacts. I don't expect omniscience, but I damn well expect competency and a some ruthlessness in pursuit of facts and current political opinion. That is how you win elections. Which is what you have to do to push your agenda.

Alexrod and company seemed perfectly content to win 2008 and then just quit. Everything since has been amateur hour. HCR, Cap and Trade, Card check. DADT We haven't been able to pass shit. Our message is less popular then the teabaggers for god's sake. Then for good measure they robed the country of our best offensive candidates to fill out the cabinet. Salazar, Sebelius, Vilsack, Napaltonio, they should all be in their home states running for senator so that we can pass progressive legislation in our house of lords.

But you are perfectly okay with their incompetency. I ain't. I want results and getting caught flat footed in MASS with no plan on your signature issue is Bull Shit. He should resign and get someone in there with the necessary ruthlessness to do the job. The president's agenda IS the Democrat's agenda. Our fates rise and fall on his success. This is something Bush and company always knew, which is why they could pass shit (ever wonder how TPM even got started- look it up sometime).

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January 28, 2010 9:07 PM    in reply to Saladin

You're talking out both sides of your mouth. In one instance, you're carping about all the legislative and governing things the White House has to do while simultaneously holding them accountable for running Congressional races.

You're not looking for competency; you're looking for God.

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January 28, 2010 11:17 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Obama didn't just run for the Presidency; he also ran to be titular head of our party. By God, we went along with Biden as VP because of Biden's legislative experience being helpful in passing legislation. You're being deliberately disingenuous, Free Rider. This is the reason so many of long-time Obama supporters and Democratic Party activists are so enraged. There is simply no valid excuse for willful ignorance at the WH.

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January 29, 2010 12:00 AM    in reply to cube3u

Thankfully, the White House doesn't dictate the governing of the entire federal government anymore. Perhaps we've gotten used to an Executive that calls all the shots and makes all the rules over the previous 8 years, but this is hardly the correct way for any republic to operate. The WH had no reason to coordinate with the Coakley campaign because apparently, no one asked them to. Ask yourself this - do you really think the WH purposely let this election slip through their fingers? On purpose? Just because they were cocky?

We don't have a dictator, and accordingly we don't have a dictator's handlers deciding how to run every state election. We didn't like it when Bush did it. Why should we ask for it now?

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January 29, 2010 12:22 AM    in reply to Jake

You're trying to tape over this mess, I think. Our elected leaders have to share and to develop strategy. And the strategy and the contingency plans are developed beforehand. The "what if's" should always be considered. The communications should be a two-way street--not the WH leaning back on their cushions and just waiting for the phone to ring.

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January 29, 2010 1:21 AM    in reply to Jake

Perhaps we've gotten used to an Executive that calls all the shots and makes all the rules over the previous 8 years, but this is hardly the correct way for any republic to operate.

--snip--

We don't have a dictator, and accordingly we don't have a dictator's handlers deciding how to run every state election. We didn't like it when Bush did it. Why should we ask for it now?

That is nothing more than an Obamabot talking point. It appears over and over again in these discussions, whether here or over at DailyKos.

No one is suggesting that Obama act like a dictator, although when it comes to trampling the Constitutional rights of citizens, the Obama Administration is vigorously defending ALL of the Bush Administration's power grabs. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Moreover, whether it is or is not the "correct" way for a republic to operate is irrelevant. It's how Repuke presidents operate to get their agendas passed. So sacrificing the Democratic agenda to the cause of some high-school civics class view of the correct way to operate just means that the agendas of Repuke presidents get enacted and the agendas of Democratic presidents don't.

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January 29, 2010 1:59 AM    in reply to expatjourno2

You really believe we have a republic left? The supreme court's decision last week should verify what has been obvious for many years, the corporations own this country. We have lost it, Americans slept too long and allowed government to run unsupervised. By the time people woke up, it was too late.
If you don't think Obama has the powers of a dictator, look again. What power Bush didn't grab, Obama is solidifying. That is why there will be no prosecution of any of the bush crimes, power once gained is never taken away without a fight.
You think the goons in the congress will stand up for us?
Wake up, we live in a corporate dictatorship swiftly moving to totalitarian corporate dictatorship. Between NSA spying (Obama's first act as president was to expand those powers) and our loss of any voice in the running of our government, the republic is as dead as ancient Rome.

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January 29, 2010 1:44 AM    in reply to FreeRider

I am talking about counting votes and knowing which way the wind is blowing. That is Alexrod's job. He failed. You are happy with that. Were I a republican I might slur you and suspect that you work in government or some other union protected shit. I want competency. If you are power hungary enough to make it to the top in our system then you are most certainly a somewhat cynical asshole who knows how to count the votes. We don't want naive idealists who are 'shocked' when by all rights they shouldn't be.

That is not asking for god, that is political competency.

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January 29, 2010 12:27 AM    in reply to Saladin

But it's the blue dogs and that weasel Lieberman that stopped health care as it was about to pass. That bill would have also passed the house and this conversation would not be taking place. Yes, the Repubs obstruction has led us to this, but the dems are responsible too.

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January 29, 2010 1:35 AM    in reply to bk

So? I am talking about a competent white house. Yes I know the blue dogs are shit- but that is largely becasue they have to position themselves in the middle of the media framed 'debate'. Regardless, I am talking about counting votes and knowing which way the wind is blowing. That's Alexrod's job and he failed.

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January 29, 2010 1:35 AM    in reply to Saladin

He is putting us on; the hell they didn't know it. They have never had the votes to pass health care, Kennedy's seat has nothing to do with it. The drive to pass it certainly has never been apparent by any moves from the White House.
They had no intention of passing it. This has been a big circlejerk from the gate. What we might get is a law mandating everyone buy insurance from the corporate thieves who now (thanks, supreme court) have a total stranglehold on our government. There will be no cost control, and people who cannot afford the skyrocketing rates will have to beg to the government.
Health care reform is a joke. Now, thanks to the supreme court's corrupt and evil ruling last week, so is any pretense of citizens having a voice in our election system. The politicians now officially serve the corporations, not the people.
Forget it. Our voices have been silenced, our votes a mockery.
The war is over, the bad guys won. The game is rigged, and we are the suckers.
If any of you think Obama's pretty speech will help anything, good luck. Nothing good will come from any of this, it is too late.

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January 29, 2010 1:52 AM    in reply to goldiera

Wow. Cynicism that tops mine. Thanks for that.

You might be right, and HCR sucks- totally sucks. But then what? Do we pick up our toys and go home? To where? What opium do you recommend?

Look, chill out. Shit sucks, the game is rigged, always has been. Somehow some progress has eeked through. yeah you are smarter then most but so what? What sorta world do you want? Why are you here commenting then?

Pick yourself up Man. We need some help.

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January 28, 2010 6:13 PM   

Maybe this is why they brought Plouffe back?

Even surrounded by a plethora of micromanagers, maybe they were just too overwhelmed by the difficulties they were dealing with, and simply missed some important cues.

Bringing Plouffe back seems like the smart thing to do, when all the rest of your people are overwhelmed already with the mess Bush left behind.

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January 28, 2010 6:14 PM   

I applaud his candor, but that's disappointing, and quite frankly, inexcusable.

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January 28, 2010 6:15 PM   

This is ridiculous.

Reliant on the CAMPAIGN?

Listen you moron Axelrod, the reason the Obama campaign was such a wonder was that it has been a decade or more since a national Democrat last conducted a good campaign before you. YOU CANNOT ASSUME DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. ASSUME THEY SIT AT THE FEET OF BOB SHRUM AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY.

The fucking BLOGS had a plan faster than you.

Although I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The blogs have been right every fucking time since 2002.

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January 28, 2010 6:30 PM    in reply to MNPundit

More bullshit. This wasn't a national Democratic campaign, genius. This was a Senate race. And, in case you've forgotten, a lot of Democrats have run successful campaigns recently. That's kinda how we took back the House and Senate.

The blogs haven't been right about a damn thing. If the blogs were so smart, we'd have President Edwards, Senator Lamont and Rep. Burner.

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January 28, 2010 11:26 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Sure they have run successful campaigns. Schumer recruited McCaskill to run here in Missouri. That Senate Committee organized the manpower for the GOTV effort in the urban areas. Don't be so dismissive of party strategy and how it should be working. This was done in tandem with the state and local campaign folks.

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January 29, 2010 1:53 AM    in reply to FreeRider

Hey "genius." He was referring to running the Obama campaign and why it could not be taken for granted a Democrat was going to win. If anything, these past couple of decades have shown Democrats can't take any election for granted, even in Massachusetts.

Geesh... why don't you just sign up to have Obama's clone already.

This was the only election of national consequence in January. Obama dropped the ball and have to take responsibility. Or do you prefer putting the blame on privates that are just following orders? Typical corporatist apologist.

I wonder, the recent Supreme Court ruling must have given you a rise, and you reached climax when your hero Alito had the gull to say "not true" during SOTU. Didn't it? Ad-hominem? I know, but I couldn't resist.

Good night freerider, and keep on f*c&ing that chicken.

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January 28, 2010 6:27 PM   

Unbelievable.

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January 28, 2010 6:28 PM   

They are self-imploding. For a group of supposed big league pols and strategists to take the Mass election for granted after what happened in VA and NJ is inexcusable. The whole way HCR has been handled by both Obama and the Dems in Congress has been sickening. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

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January 28, 2010 6:32 PM    in reply to klip

Comparing MA to VA & NJ is stupid. Corzine and Deeds were always behind in the polls. Coakley had a 20 point lead 3 weeks before the election.

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January 28, 2010 6:56 PM    in reply to FreeRider

that poll showing her so far ahead was BS, in my opinion

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January 28, 2010 8:01 PM    in reply to rwc

There were many such bullshit polls.

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January 28, 2010 9:05 PM    in reply to FreeRider

FreeRide's incessant obama groveling is useful in one regard. It's apparent that the type of mentality that so defiantly praised G W Bush, all the way to the end of his term, is not limited to the rethuglican party.

His posts, and unfortunately those of others, show that fanaticism is alive and well in both.

He's the democrat version of Fox News.

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January 28, 2010 9:08 PM    in reply to T Groan

You're a bore.

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January 28, 2010 9:27 PM    in reply to T Groan

It makes me laugh. He's a lunatic.

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January 29, 2010 1:47 AM    in reply to klip

The congress and white house and supreme court serve the corporations. They will pass nothing the corporations don't want. So much for health care. One of the major insurance companies is planning to issue a dividend for the first time, they have so much profit.
Caring for sick people would interfer, and so it won't happen.
The whole movement was a joke, a joke on us.
Nothing good will come out of this, health care died the day they scrapped the public option....not that they ever intended to pass anything but a mandate everyone buy policies from those same corporations. No cost containment, would not even pass Byron Dorgan's re-importing drug bill that would have saved Americans millions of dollars. John Kerry, the entire so-called liberal democrats voted it down.

You think these clowns work for us? The supreme court made it official...they work for the insurance companies & wall street. Not the american people, we have lost our country. Our voices are silenced, our votes irrelevant.
Wake up, we have lost. I have signed my last petition, cast my final vote. I don't believe in Santa Claus, either.

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January 28, 2010 6:31 PM   

I just ran across this which suggests that the powers that be only started to understand what was going on with the voters in MA about 4 days before the election:

DNC Chairman Kaine Blasts Scott Brown for Standing with Banks, National Republicans and Against People

PR Newswire

WASHINGTON, Jan. 15

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January 28, 2010 6:41 PM   

Gotta cut 'em some slack on this one. It was a classic "house of cards" moment. Incompetence all around. What bothers me (scares me) is they (WH) don't realize (the scary part) you can't stand out on the thin ice FOREVER. Better make something happen before opportunity simply disappears.

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January 28, 2010 6:58 PM   

Good grief! This is an incredibly bad report. We have campaign monitoring and fund-raising from the House, the Senate and the Party. We have legislative actions progressing in the House and in the Senate. We have a president giving speeches, interviews, and the like. And we have folks running local campaigns to elect national Democrats all out there apparently on their own for most of the time.

There's no one in charge. Axelroad says the campaign didn't ask for help. Obama in interviews with George S. says Congress is in charge of legislative "stuff" and last night wants us all to avoid being in political campaign mode all of the time in the belief that we can pass legislation if we are politically "pure".

We've now discovered the reason for the complete message meltdown after the Mass election. No one put themselves in charge of the overall Democratic Party strategy. A prez was advocating for healthcare in 2009--watch Josh's video for how devastating this was. The House and the Senate were given free rein without any apparent overall strategic control--allowing Grassley and then Snowe to delay the process. And no one has been in charge since the mess--and this apparently is the reason that no strategy has been rolled out to recover the momentum on healthcare.

It's a disgrace.

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January 28, 2010 6:59 PM   

Actually, the strategy for losing a critical vote on HCR was Rahm's job, not Axelrod's. Messaging might have been Axelrod's, but the clueless response to what to do when you suddenly only have 59 is attributable to Rahm.

And Dems could have gotten to 59 a hundred different ways, Coakley was just one of them...so to not plan for that was almost unforgivably stupid.

Among the hundred ways: Byrd's health, Nelson's whatever, Bayh, Lieberman, liberals who were getting pushed around, etc. I know you can't plan for 100 things, but you can plan for losing one Senator who tries to call your bluff. Doesn't seem like them did.

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January 28, 2010 7:12 PM    in reply to davidinnorcal

I know you can't plan for 100 things, but you can plan for losing one Senator who tries to call your bluff. Doesn't seem like them did.

No, it doesn't. And that's surprising--the stereotype about Obama is that he thinks long term.

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January 28, 2010 7:50 PM    in reply to CT Voter

Seems more like he just thinks and doesn't do much else. That was Hoover's problem, as well.

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January 28, 2010 7:23 PM   

they let the healthcare "debate" go on for a year and (I guess) figured that was proper procedure.

hard to believe they were unaware of a Senate election.

I take it they were also unaware the Supreme Court might rule in favor of corporate spending.

what were or are they aware of?

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January 28, 2010 7:31 PM    in reply to kJCUWzUl

LMAO

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January 28, 2010 7:52 PM    in reply to kJCUWzUl

They are aware of the need for off shore drilling.

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January 29, 2010 1:52 AM    in reply to kJCUWzUl

You got it. It was political theatre,nothing more. All real deals happen behind closed doors, what we hear is sound and fury signifying nothing.

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January 28, 2010 7:27 PM   

Arrogant, clueless Dimocraps just don't get it. American people don't want death panels, government enticements for abortion, and mandatory transfer of wages to fatcat insurance companies. The Annointed One is a one-termer.

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January 28, 2010 7:39 PM    in reply to Sailormarlowe

Aren't you bored with yourself by now?

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January 28, 2010 7:53 PM    in reply to Sailormarlowe

It would be an amazing argument if any of those things were real.

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January 28, 2010 7:27 PM   

This has been noted once or twice before but Ted Kennedy could have resigned rather than died in office and a replacement candidate could have been on the ballot in November 2008 when the Democrats won by a landslide. Millionaires can't take their fortune into the hereafter and politicians can't pass on the house seat to which they were elected. The only law that is certain in Politics (as in other other things) is Murphy's and we all know he was an optimist.

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January 28, 2010 8:14 PM    in reply to ejg3

Murphy's Law, corrected;

"Even if it CAN'T go wrong, it will."

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January 28, 2010 7:30 PM   

It's about freakin time!

"We'll have more soon from the Axelrod briefing, including the White House view of a path forward on health care now and a plan to be more aggressive highlighting Republican obstructionism."

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January 28, 2010 7:41 PM   

I appreciate the honesty from Axelrod. No obfuscation: "We had considered various scenarios, obviously, and one of the less positive ones from our point of view is playing out." I think I'm channeling Perino. No. We didn't have a plan.

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January 28, 2010 8:41 PM    in reply to Rockridge

Hey Rock, I'm channeling Perino too:
Health Care Reform? No, it didn't happen on our watch.

For some strange reason, when I watch her on the tele, I don't need to take my little blue pills. Something about spanking her, well ...

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January 28, 2010 7:57 PM   

Pretty obvious that Congressional Dems had no contingency plan either. The WH and Congressional Dems were caught flat-footed.

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January 28, 2010 7:58 PM   

As Democratic strategist David Plouffe noted in an op-ed piece for the Washington Post last Sunday, “Americans’ health and our nation’s long-term fiscal health depend on” passing, “a meaningful health care reform package without delay.” The status quo, in regard health care and many other issues, is unsustainable. Congressional Democrats must approve the reform bill and let the American People judge it on its own merits instead of Republican propaganda.

Read more @ http://armchairfirebrand.wordpress.com/

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January 28, 2010 8:48 PM    in reply to Armchair Firebrand

Where's the overall Democratic strategy that brings together the campaigns, the speeches, the two Houses, and fund-raising? If that piece is missing, then Pelosi is on her own, Reid is on his own, committee chairs are on their own, Obama stands alone, Kaine (DNC Chair) stands alone, and every Democrat campaigning in a general election to be elected to the House or Senate stands alone.

The end result is complete guess work on achieving results. if any occur, it's by accident and not by plan.

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January 28, 2010 9:02 PM    in reply to cube3u

Where's the overall Democratic strategy that brings together the campaigns, the speeches, the two Houses, and fund-raising?

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January 28, 2010 9:10 PM    in reply to pol

Arrgh. Somehow my answer got cut off.

That would be Tim Kaine... and I'd like to see him lose his job over this.

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January 28, 2010 11:21 PM    in reply to pol

Hmmm, in practice that's not really been true. What has been true in the past is that the Prez exerts control. The Prez usually appoints a trusted adviser over the party apparatus--but keeps the power (and responsibility) for the strategy in his own hands. The Democratic Party buck stops at Obama--just like the Presidency does.

Obama did not run as an Independent--he ran as a Democrat. He does not have the option (as far as I'm concerned) for being an independent after his election. That leads to chaos.

That attitude, though, would explain the mess we've all witnessed since the Mass election. No one is really in charge of things.

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January 28, 2010 8:07 PM   

Couple of points here:

1.) DC has a tendency to bring out DC mentality. A piece of this mentality: MA is Democratic because Ted Kennedy was reelected ninety times in a row. This ignores what Teddy accomplished over his lifetime, both legislatively and politically. It also ignores how popular he was with independents, the plurality in Massachusetts. That Obama didn't have a plan is not the point: the Senate, the House and the White House political shop didn't have a contingency plan. That is significant.

2.) There are many ways to accomplish reform, but the most successful path is the one where the House passes the Senate bill.

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January 28, 2010 8:30 PM   

Absolute political malpractice. Are you fucking kidding me? NO PLAN??? With the 60th vote at stake in the person of Martha 'What, I Should Be in Front of Fenway Pahhk?' Coakley???

This fills me with anger and despair, for what happened and for the future.

Weeferdog

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January 28, 2010 9:16 PM    in reply to Weeferdog

Well Kleefeld called it a coronation!

The fact that the Admin. only woke up to the Coakley debacle 10 days before the election is coincident and consistent with the start of OFA emails and phone banks on Jan 9th per my emails

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January 28, 2010 9:20 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

And to be fair to Kleefeld, totally consistent with the public polling

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January 28, 2010 10:36 PM    in reply to JohnMcCSF

Whether it is consistent with polling or not, it's ridiculous to assume the outcome in a state with several million residents. Coakley was a dog of a candidate, yet TPM and many other liberal-leaning blogs had crowned her senator immediately after winning the Democratic primary.

Massachusetts leans Democratic. It has for decades. But, Bill Weld came from Massachusetts. So did Mitt himself (not really, but you get the picture). It is a state where a Republican can win. It's surprising, yes, but no more surprising than Big Ben winning in Nebraska (btw: how badly did he look last night?!).

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January 28, 2010 9:28 PM   

WOW.

I mean, freakin WOW.

The burden is all BHO's.

Great leading. I guess because your thought of the new messiah doesn't mean you can think beyond your own hype.

Fix it pal, we don't need another round of GOPig legislation.
But then again that's what your doing now isn't it.

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January 28, 2010 9:45 PM   

I just cannot fathom how the White House would not have had more urgency about getting this done -- the longer it dragged on, the more likely some event like the MA election -- and I cannot understand why, given a ten day lead time or so, they did not come up with an approach to bolster confidence in a way forward in Congress. Really, history is not going to forgive this WH. Rahm E was supposed to know how to get stuff like this done, and they have been AWOL at virtually all stages, and not at all nimble when trouble emerged. In broad historical perspective, I am just so afraid that the last nine months will seem to have been the last, best, lost chance for progressives to turn the dynamic of US policy and politics in a more positive direction. When lost opportunities like this happen, they sometimes never come again.

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January 28, 2010 9:54 PM   

Sorry to read this; it seems to be yet another thing that makes this big Obama supporter surmise the President and his team are in over their heads. It's worth remembering that Clinton had the same rough go in his first year. He, too, started with a gang of new, unproven politicos. Let's hope Obama and Co can right the ship this year. (Although I'd prefer to say "left the ship," if you know what I mean).

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January 28, 2010 10:10 PM    in reply to jcfinsf

The difference here, remember, is that Obama supposedly stocked his WH with Clinton veterans like Rahm E and the economic team so he could avoid the bumbling over the first year. Cannot really use the excuse that they were amateurs. And he followed a Congress-first health care strategy meant to be the opposite of Clinton's mistakes -- only to end up imitating the worst Clinton error -- not having anything the public could understand and letting enemies define it instead.

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January 28, 2010 10:46 PM    in reply to Theda Skocpol

I think the enemies were going to define healthcare, no matter what. That's what FOX News, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, etc. are for.

Why do you think Rahm Emanuel did not do his job? Was he not up to the job - or did he not really WANT to get the job done?

I keep thinking Obama needs to get a new chief of staff.

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January 29, 2010 1:45 AM    in reply to pol

"I keep thinking Obama needs to get a new chief of staff."

I don't think that. I know that.

There is no excuse for having a former Goldman Sachs consultant as your Chief of Staff in light of what your Treasury Secretary already "messed" up with the AIG bailout while head of the NY Fed.

Mindblowing that either of them are still there.

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January 29, 2010 8:41 AM    in reply to jcfinsf

It gets a lot easier to drown when your "friends" are chucking anvils at you as fast as one can hurl them overboard.

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January 29, 2010 5:42 AM   

This is all bullshit. Coakley lost because she sucked as a candidate. Entitled. Lazy. Clueless. Out of touch.

No one could have saved her.

Not with her being who she was, and the economy being the way it is.

The only lesson of Mass is "Don't nominate candidates that suck. Or learn to love losing."

The WH did everything they were asked to do.

Move ON!!

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January 29, 2010 8:39 AM   

Good lord.

You people don't want a Presidential Administration, you want a frakkin' nanny. You want a whole team of damn nannies.

I've never felt an ounce for any politician, elected official or staff - but I'm as close as I've ever come to feeling it for this one... and my political cognizance goes back as far Carter getting unfairly blamed for not giving Americans happy talk pablum, Pat Schroeder crying, etc.

"The blogs knew"?

Frakkin' great... why didn't the almighty blogs get off their ass and do something about. More than likely, because it would have cut into Administration bashing time.

Jeebus... I can see it now. This must be how conservatives are made.

You're bringing all sorts of conservative strawmen to life, right before my eyes.

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January 29, 2010 10:49 AM   

Dear TPM:

The story coming out of the WH about the MA senate seat is completely implausible.

For one thing, politicians never admit to mistakes. Certainly Axelrod and Emmanuel don't.

For another thing, politicians never tell the truth. Of course there's no need to tell the truth when the press serves as the administration's stenographers.

Third, this story line runs counter to the relentless story line you pushed during the primaries and 2008 campaign about the superior strategy and data-gathering capabilities of Team Obama.

So, do you think we're either so loyal or so stupid that we will fall for this line of horse manure you're relaying to us from the administration?

Because the "reporting" on this story is insulting.

Please work with the WH to come up with a more plausible story line.

Or, in two simple words: lie better.

Thanks,
readytoblowagasket

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January 29, 2010 11:09 AM   

I just can't help commenting..... like a fly drawn to one of those bug zappers.
Why is it that no one looks beyond Coakley's campaign, or the WH and POTUS' input, and at the issues themselves? Can no one on this site imagine a reality where the people of Massachusetts chose to reject the Democratic agenda? That it wasn't just a matter of a poor campaign, the wrong spin, a lackluster candidate? That, just perhaps, the people of Massachusetts followed their beliefs, listened to their own concerns and doubts, and voted for the candidate who's campaign specifically focused on opposing the Democratic agenda?
I realize that most progressives feel that the majority of this country (myself included, of course) is filled with backwards, unwashed, gun-totin', bible-thumpin' rubes who can only spell F-O-X. Coakley made that clear, Obama has made that clear on multiple occasions, as have his slupers in the mainstream media. And, as this article and the comments make clear, progressives feel that they know best, and the only problem is selling it to the masses. Progressives simply cannot accept that many in this country (perhaps even the majority) reject the nanny state, reject ever-bigger government, and reject the gradual erosion of individual independence that progressives hold so dear. That's the take home message from this election. Continuing to ignore this fact will help re-define the political landscape come November, regardless of any slick sales pitch by Axelrod and Plouffe. As Obama himself (lowercase on the himself, by the way) once gloated, 'elections have consequences.'

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June 6, 2010 8:16 AM   

Obama didn't just run for the Presidency; he also ran to be titular head of our party. By God, we went along with Biden as VP because of Biden's legislative experience being helpful in passing legislation. You're being deliberately disingenuous, Free Rider. This is the reason so many of long-time Obama supporters and Democratic Party activists are so enraged. There is simply no valid excuse for willful ignorance at the WH.

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