Conrad: Health Care 'Dead' Unless House Passes Senate Bill First

WTF??!! Who does this guy think he is? Who elected him king of the world? This guy is on a power trip and there has to be something that can shut him the fuck up.

Are these senate assholes deaf, dumb and blind? This is like one long nightmare that we cannot wake-up from.

Do the creeps want the GOP to take over again? It seems like they want to serve their corporate master instead of the people of this country.

It is true, the House should pass the Senate bill.

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Another "Health Care is Dead!" attention-whoring crap headline from TPMDC.

"Fine, then it's dead," Conrad said.

That says all you need to know about Conrad and for whom he actually works.

What? I guess we can put him down as a "no" for reconciliation. What an arrogant jerk!

"Fine, then it's dead"? He's way off-base on this one.

I would hope that this fatuous fool will received a call from Obama.

STFU Conrad. You are one of the main reasons they're having to do it through reconciliation, so just shut the fuck up, kay?

Thing is, he's technically kind of right. It makes a lot more sense to amend a law that's already been passed than to try to amend a bill that hasn't been enacted. Doing it the way the House is insisting on ensures a challenge to the bill's constitiutionality and with radical activists in charge of SCOTUS, that worries the hell out of me. And if the two houses could set aside their mutual lack of trust and endless petty posturing, we could to it that way.

But for this health care industry trojan horse to try to turn a technical matter into yet another house-senate dick measuring constest in a blatant effort to sabotage the remergence of action is just infuriating.

Conrad is now and always has been a corporate whore. He has changed reasons to oppose HCR every time it comes close to passage. He represents .002% of the population and 100% of corporate interests. I have sent him several emails asking him to think of the 45,000 people who die every year - he obviously doesn't care about them, only his own power and his bottom line.

Conrad should say the word "dead". He needs better language.

But Conrad is right that according to the parliamentarian the House has to pass the Senate bill before the Senate can pass a reconciliation side car.

However, the House can pass the reconciliation side car BEFORE the Senate bill and then the Senate can pass the reconciliation side car and any changes that happen then the House can take that final side car again and pass that.

screw him and those like him

"Fine, then it's dead." So are a lot of people who could have used health insurance since last summer. The father of the shooter in Denver who shot up some kids yesterday said his son was mentally ill but didn't get treatment because they couldn't afford it.

So, Sen. Conrad, let me sincerely say in response "Go fuck yourself, asshole."

What practical difference does this make? Conrad would not vote for reconciliation anyway. Does the reconciliation measure have to make a trip through the Finance Ctee? I don't think so, and that is the only place where Conrad has any weight to throw around.

Kent ConCRAP is an a**hole. Who the hell does he think he is? Who died and made him Majority Whip? f***king creep!!!

I really can't stand Conrad. Him and the rest of the blue dogs have got to go. They might as well be Republicans at this point. Maybe they are...

Everybody take a deep breath. What you have to remember is that every single one of these clowns has an ego the size of Texas. Why do you think they have so many rules allowing a single Senator to exert so much power to block bills or hold up nominations? The reality is, if they go the reconciliation route, they have enough votes without Conrad.

Might be impossible to go around him, since he is chairman of Budget committee.

I know, the Senate sucks.

I'm about to the point that I think the Democrats deserve whatever they get in the upcoming elections.

I'm pretty sure I'll moderate on that in time - since I really don't think the rest of us deserve whatever it is they're trying to bring down on our heads. But still, that's the way I feel right now..

What too many of you folks are missing is that Conrad calling this POS deal a dead duck is a GOOD thing!!! The Senate bill is useless.

No robust public option, all in who want in, starting ASAP?

No mandate!

No antitrust? No mandate!

KILL THE BILL.

This puts the pressure back full square on the Dem's in the Senate and all OVER the WH and the DNC/DCCC/DLCC!!! They don't produce something, they fail in November!

They produce a POS like the Senate bill? They fail in Nov!!!

Nope, killing this once again rachets up the pressure on the Senate and the WH, exponentially, every time a deal is NOT reached!!!

As long as the House sticks to its guns, no deal means more pressure on Senate/WH.

And that's a good thing for we the people.

Face it, folks: Neither Obama nor the Democrats in Congress were ever serious about health care reform at any time. The very most they'll get is a few provisions that do nothing other than shift the political burden for the failing health care system from industry and the Republicans to the Democrats who did nothing.

I was a contributor to Democratic candidates and the party between '04 and '08 to the tune of about $30,000. I am on all the lists, but I have told every caller that my checkbook is closed until health care reform is enacted. They're not going to do that, which leads me to believe that the Democratic Party has a death wish.

So be it, I guess, but let 'em die on someone else's nickel.

So much for healthcare being "nearly done". This piece of shit has about as much chance of passing as Osama bin Laden has becoming President of the United States.