
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), a participant in yesterday's health care summit, and a long-time advocate of reform, believes the Republicans' stubborn performance was enough to unite feuding House Democrats and Senate Democrats. The two camps are suffering from a crisis of trust after a contentious year--a schism that will have to be bridged if health care is to pass.
Last night, after a late vote, I caught Rockefeller in the hallway just off the Senate floor and asked him how Democrats plan to come together in the wake of the summit. "Well, to be honest with you, I think today as we all sat and watched what unfolded, I think that there was a feeling that there was more of a bonding between House and Senate Democrats and that the Republicans acted so irresponsibly, it was stunning actually," Rockefeller said.
House Democrats say they can't pass the Senate health care bill unless it's first amended by a separate bill, which would likely be passed using the majority-vote budget reconciliation process. Some Senate Democrats, though, say that may be procedurally impossible, and are hoping the House will find it in itself to make the first move.
"It was amazing," Rockefeller said. "And therefore the chances of them passing the Senate bill maybe got better today."
That may be wishful thinking, though. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT)--who also attended the summit--told reporters it's hard to gauge what effect the summit will have on House/Senate relations. "I don't know enough to make a judgment like that," he told reporters last night. And the only people who do know for sure are House Democrats.
Former Federal Employee
February 26, 2010 9:27 AM
Yet in the same breath, you can say that you don't know whether reconciliation is right at this time?
Pick a team, Jay.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
February 26, 2010 9:30 AM in reply to Former Federal Employee
He's for passing the package of fixes they negotiated with the House before Brown's election through reconciliation. He doesn't want to attach the public option, which was already off the table in those negotiations, to that package.
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Rick Jones
February 26, 2010 9:55 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
And might Rockefeller still be open to trying to pass the public option later in a stand-alone bill or attached to other legislation?
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
February 26, 2010 2:19 PM in reply to Rick Jones
That's what I gather
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AJM
February 26, 2010 3:26 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Why?
Dropping the public option might have been necessary to reach 60. It is not clear that dropping it is necessary to get 50 for the reconciliation bill.
Also, why did he find the Republican behavior stunning? Sitting here at home pay half a mind to it, I merely found it typical of Republican behavior all year?
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acf_ma
February 26, 2010 9:32 AM
Where did he get the idea that things might be better after this summit? From what I saw, things are as nasty, contentious, and partisan, as ever. If anything, positions have hardened since yesterday, and reconciliation is the only route.
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mophan
February 26, 2010 9:44 AM in reply to acf_ma
He was referring to the rift between House Democrats and Senate Democrats. Not the animosity between Democrats and Republicans.
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fpie
February 26, 2010 9:59 AM in reply to acf_ma
I have the impression he was talking about relations between House and Senate Dems. It was that, "the Republicans acted so irresponsibly..." he felt created a stronger bond between Democrats in the two houses. That is how it reads to me.
If that is the case I think it is the best that could have come out of this meeting. Finally the Democratic majority are figuring out that they can't deal with the minority party in expectation of good faith and hopefully they won't even bother trying to keep up that apearance for the public. Anyone of honest spirit that is paying attention sees the truth here.
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AJM
February 26, 2010 3:23 PM in reply to acf_ma
Nobody who has paid much attention to any of the antics of the Republicans this year was in any way surprised.
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mans_best_friend
February 26, 2010 9:51 AM
Why can't Democrats ever stop dickering among themselves? I'm soooo sick of this. It's fine to have lots of competing ideas, but you never get everything you want and it's better to have 75% of what you want than nothing, which is what they'll have if they don't get their shit together.
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calbearinillinois
February 26, 2010 10:00 AM in reply to mans_best_friend
It is very hard to get people with the ego to be elected to Congress to admit they need to concede anything. Plus, deadlines of any but the most clear and dire nature just don't seem to work with elected officials who are always concerned with the next election cycle.
It is the same reason why Illinois, with huge budget deficits, an eroding credit rating, unfunded pension and education obligations, and Dem majorities at all levels of government, hasn't passed a budget on time in years and can't pass a tax hike that everyone with a brain admits has to be done to correct long-term solvency problems. It, and Prop 13 requiring a 2/3 majority, is why California's state government is royally screwed.
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KeithL
February 26, 2010 10:06 AM in reply to mans_best_friend
Those "competing ideas" affect millions of people's lives profoundly, Goofy. The House Democrats simply cannot be accused of wanting everything because they've already compromised away far more than half of what could only be described, objectively, as good governance AND the will of the people, for corrupt, petulant dickery on the part of a few Senate Democrats.
Their suspicion is hard earned and entirely justified. This IS politics, you know. Take two aspirin and drink plenty of fluids (preferably alcoholic). You'll feel better AFTER a vote.
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mans_best_friend
February 26, 2010 10:30 AM in reply to KeithL
Most of what they "compromised away" they never had a snowball's chance in Hell of getting. I compromised getting my magic pony. Politics is the art of the possible.
This is just brinkmanship. Enough is enough. It's long past time for them to stop acting like petulant children and get behind a consensus that actually has a chance to pass.
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KeithL
February 26, 2010 11:17 AM in reply to mans_best_friend
I guess we'll just have to disagree on who are being the petulant children. For that matter, we disagree on the nature of snowballs, too. Your confident concept of what is "possible" is rather dependent on the same question of children and whether there is any sign of parental guidance.
I am sorry about your pony!
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Kevin Sutton
February 26, 2010 2:43 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
That's a bizarre definition of concession. The only thing that made it 'impossible' was that the other side wouldn't budge, so it was dropped.
If the GOP was demanding privatizing medicare as a price for their support, (for example) the Democrats said no, and the GOP dropped that demand in favor of something lesser --it would be a concession.
It's a also a silly logical twist to insist that the Senate can't be responsible because there aren't the votes or will for reconcilation first, (To fix the problems in their own bill) but the House leadership does have the power to get the votes for the Senate bill with no fix guarantees, more vulnerable incumbants, in a much larger and more unpredicatble caucus.
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LarsThorwald
February 26, 2010 9:57 AM
Leave it to Democrats to jellydick everything.
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VictorLH
February 26, 2010 10:08 AM
What? Did he sleep through the Summit yesterday? Was he in the Seante last night when Bunning (R-KY) put a hold on unemplyment benefits and Corbra for the un-employed? Christ, what is it with Democrats, don't they realize the GOP is out to destroy them? They will lie, distort and kill people for power.
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FreeRider
February 26, 2010 11:00 AM in reply to VictorLH
He's not talking about between relations Republicans & Democrats. You'd realize that if you were in such a hurry to piss and moan.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 26, 2010 2:17 PM in reply to FreeRider
Apart from all this sindy bullshit in here...have you ever done crab gyozas/dumplings? Look into it. Very good.
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Indie Pro
February 26, 2010 10:10 AM
Why can't the Democrats pass their republican plan?
THE DEMOCRATS' REPUBLICAN PLAN
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_02/022571.php
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tropicgirl
February 26, 2010 10:16 AM
This man is a real piece of work. When it was reported this morning that some Democrats approved of the public option, until it became close to becoming reality, they were talking about him.
He faked everyone out and worked against the public option all along, while professing to support it to make himself look like a hero to his obviously confused constituency.
He is one of the biggest fakers, next to Obama.
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rawresolve
February 26, 2010 11:14 AM
Clearly the summit was NOT about "Renewed Trust Between" progressive liberals and the democratic majority in the house and senate. This based on the fact that Single Payer and the Public Option can not be considered in the solutions discussions.
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theone718
February 26, 2010 1:52 PM
By April, this is finished. It's only waiting now...
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