
Four more Democratic Senators have signed on to yesterday's letter calling on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to use reconciliation to pass health care through the Senate with a public option included.
The new signatures come from four more progressive Senators: Al Franken (MN), Patrick Leahy (VT), John Kerry (MA), and Sheldon Whitehouse (RI).
Walter Mitty
February 17, 2010 11:37 AM
Could the Senate Dems be rolling out four new signers a day between now and the HCR summit? Sort of like how Obama rolled out Super-delegates a couple at a time? Could Plouffe be at work here?
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Tommy Douglas
February 17, 2010 1:47 PM in reply to Walter Mitty
FINALLY. Because here are the statistics:
Quinnipiac poll, 14 Jan 2010.
Nationwide sample, conducted 5-11 January 2010, 1,767 registered voters, MOE +/- 2.3%
Question #28. Do you support or oppose giving people the option of being covered by a government health insurance plan that would compete with private plans?
Results:
Support: 59%. Oppose: 35%. DK/NA: 6%.
Democrats: Support 82%. Oppose 12%
Republicans: Support 34%. Oppose 59%.
Independents: Support 61%. Oppose 34%.
Liberals (self-described): Support 85% Oppose 11%
Moderates (self-described): Support 69% Oppose 26%
Conservatives (self-described): Support 35% Oppose 59%
Support fairly evenly spread across all age groups 18-55+ (spread 53%-68%)
Support even more evenly spread across all income groups $100K (spread 57%-62%)
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Read those numbers again. 69% of MODERATES support a public option. 61% of INDEPENDENTS support it. Good God, over a third of conservatives, and over a third of Republicans, support it.
Can we tattoo these stats on RAHM EMANUEL'S FOREHEAD to remind him and the White House? remember, Independents aren't Centrists: http://dumprahm.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/rahm-and-centrism/
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gharlane
February 17, 2010 10:35 PM in reply to Tommy Douglas
Thanks for spreading the word, Tommy. I've been posting those poll numbers around TPM for a couple of weeks now. The Administration apologists who want PO supporters to STFU, suck it up, and go home have so far had not one word to say about this or the other polls that are consistent with it, going back the past eight months or so.
The Public Option is more popular than the Senate HCR bill, more popular than either house of Congress, and more popular than the POTUS. You'd think they'd learn something from those numbers.
And you know something else? If PCCC and the other folks behind this drive pull it off, together with these courageous Senators, you won't find the VivaAmericas, the NCSteves, the lousgirls84s, the FreepRuders, etc., of this board giving them a shred of credit. They'll probably say it was part of the seventeen-dimensional chess game the whole time.
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Tommy Douglas
February 18, 2010 11:00 AM in reply to gharlane
thanks for those numbers!
every Senator needs to read these polls. (as well as Rahm)
As you said: "The Public Option is more popular than the Senate HCR bill, more popular than either house of Congress, and more popular than the POTUS. You'd think they'd learn something from those numbers."
If they want HCR to become popular again, it needs to be actual HEALTH CARE reform, and not just INSURANCE reform.
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woundedduck
February 17, 2010 11:38 AM
The letter signers may have to physically take Reid's hands and help him feel the bumps in his back, "Yes, Harry, that is your back bone."
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Moose49
February 17, 2010 11:59 AM in reply to woundedduck
What bumps?
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EastWest
February 17, 2010 1:14 PM in reply to Moose49
Meh.
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Xantar
February 17, 2010 12:09 PM in reply to woundedduck
Remember that these guys are politicians. If they are making statements in public like this, then they have some reasonable belief that they are going to get what they want. If they weren't sure of that, they would just look weak and ineffectual.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a ploy to give Harry Reid and the Conservadems some political cover.
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AhTrini1
February 17, 2010 12:42 PM in reply to Xantar
DUH, they are what they look like. It's not a delusion.
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tduff
February 17, 2010 11:44 AM
8 down, 43 more to go.
http://randomthoughtstd.blogspot.com/
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
February 17, 2010 12:10 PM in reply to tduff
42. Biden breaks ties.
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mans_best_friend
February 17, 2010 1:05 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
I think it's very problematic whether they have that many. Take up the PO AFTER they've passed the current bill. Trying to do too many things at once just guarantees they get nothing done.
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EastWest
February 17, 2010 1:19 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
They're getting nothing done now.
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BlindBat
February 17, 2010 1:42 PM in reply to tduff
Maybe Lieberman will be one of the next co-signers. Apparently all he needs is to be asked.
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3star2nr
February 17, 2010 12:09 PM
hell yeah good job guys. wtf do u got to lose ram it through!!!!
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rlkinny
February 17, 2010 12:14 PM in reply to 3star2nr
You're giving yourself away when you use the word "ram". That's the new Republican lingo for anything that passes with a majority vote (as defined in the Constitution) but avoids a filibuster (which is not even mentioned in the Constitution).
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rlkinny
February 17, 2010 12:10 PM
Do it! Use the 39% health insurance rate hike from Anthem Blue Shield as proof why a Public Option is needed!
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shortstop
February 17, 2010 12:47 PM
Holy cow. Didn't think Kerry had that in him.
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wbgonne
February 17, 2010 1:37 PM in reply to shortstop
Ditto. I called with congrats.
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metalepsis
February 17, 2010 1:24 PM
My understanding is that rules will not permit a public option through reconciliation. If Dems want to use reconciliation, it will be much easier to extend the scope of Medicare/Medicaid, which was the gang-of ten recommendation. I think progessives should be advocating in this direction.
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gharlane
February 18, 2010 1:13 AM in reply to metalepsis
You do know that SCHIP was passed through reconciliation, right? (Not to mention the Bush tax cuts, which had severely negative budgetary consequences, because the Republicans wanted to pass them, so they used reconciliation.)
You do know that the public option has been scored by CBO as a significant budgetary cost-saver, right?
You do know that that's the purpose of reconciliation, right? (Well, OK, one quibble: reconciliation was intended to be used for unpopular cost-saving measures, and the public option is, has always been, and remains, as evidenced in poll after poll after poll, highly popular.)
So why would the rules not allow it? Please explain.
Beyond that, I don't have much of a problem with advocating Medicare expansion. As long as it's down to, say, age 1. One second, that is. Failing that, I'll take 45 years, for a start. (I admit it: I'm selfish. I'm self-employed, with pre-existings, have no health insurance, and I'm over 45.)
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Jackster
February 17, 2010 1:26 PM
Hell ya, if their gonna go down, go down swinging. Get it in b4 Nov. 2010 and then watch the R's try to take it away from all of those tbaggers after they've seen the benefit.
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Kevin Sutton
February 17, 2010 1:52 PM
It's a good sign both that a HCR fix isn't going away yet, and also the public can now see who stands for what. A real headcount may also provide an impetus for pressure to be directed against a specific holdout if it comes down to that. (A ways off of course)
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erica
February 17, 2010 1:59 PM
Could it be that the Dems have finally decided to dance with the ones who brung 'em?
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Max Thrax
February 17, 2010 2:29 PM in reply to erica
No but it does sound like they've decided to string you along for a while. It's no fun crushing someone's hopes if you don't raise them first.
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wbgonne
February 17, 2010 2:48 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Maybe. Probably, in fact. But I think Kerry signing is significant. He is a centrist Senate Dem and if he signs on that may mean many others will, too. Keep hope alive.
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wbgonne
February 17, 2010 2:51 PM in reply to wbgonne
P.S. Please call your senators.
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gharlane
February 18, 2010 1:15 AM in reply to wbgonne
Amen to that. DiFi's gonna be a tough nut to crack. Hoping Boxer will do the right thing, at least if enough of us call.
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wbgonne
February 18, 2010 8:01 AM in reply to gharlane
Believe it or not, Feinstein signed on. http://whipcongress.com/?source=bp
With her and Kerry on board, I really think the dam might burst on this is there is enough pressure. PLEASE call your Democratic senators!
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gharlane
February 18, 2010 8:04 PM in reply to wbgonne
Yes, she did! I was just about to call her to bug her, so now I'm on hold waiting to thank her :)
I agree that DiFi is important. She's practically a conservadem, and right-of-center (except inside the Beltway, where "center" means something from an alternate universe).
Boxer's on board as well.
And Schumer, Shaheen, Lautenberg, Mikulski. I don't think you can describe any of these folks as fringe lefties.
Per TPM about 3 hours ago, we're up to 18. It ain't 51 (or 50, counting Biden as tiebreaker), but if these Senators are willing to put pressure on Reid, I'm betting there's more senators willing to vote yes.
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gharlane
February 18, 2010 11:33 PM in reply to wbgonne
My letter to Senators Feinstein and Boxer:
Dear Senator [Feinstein/Boxer],
Thank you for being among the first Senators to stand up for Americans by urging Majority Leader Reid to put a public health insurance option to a vote under budget reconciliation rules. I had been planning to call your office today to urge you to do so, but I discovered that you had already taken this important step.
As the Bennet letter correctly observes, a public health insurance option reduces the deficit, increases market competition, and provides more consumer choice. Enacting a public option through reconciliation is in keeping with the history of passage of similar significant reforms (such as SCHIP, Medicare Advantage, and COBRA) under reconciliation rules. Finally, the public option, as shown in poll after poll after poll, over the last eight months, is highly popular with the American public, liberal and moderate, Democrat and Independent, and even commands a none-too-shabby support of over a third of Republicans and self-described conservatives (see Quinnipiac poll released 14 January 2010, question # 28, for one example, available at http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1413). The public is more popular among Americans than is either house of Congress (to be brutally honest), far more popular than the current Senate health care bill, and indeed is more popular than is the President of the United States. Passing this reform would be a huge political win for Democrats, because Americans understand that it is, in fact, the right thing to do.
Thank you for adding your voice to this important undertaking.
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Anyone making calls, or sending faxes, emails, or whatever, feel free to use and/or modify my language. Nothing special, just slapped together, but use it if you like. It would be pretty trivial to turn this into a "please do it" rather than a "thank you" letter. And remember to thank your Senator if she or he has already signed on.
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Nutter
February 17, 2010 2:40 PM
Now that a public option is gaining speed (or most likely a expansion of Medicare) time for DIEhard Left people like Wendy Davis and Ridgepole to hate him even more!
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