
Republicans asked to negotiate health care with President Obama in front of C-Span cameras, but now slam the bipartisan health care summit at the White House slated for Thursday as nothing more than a "photo-op," "infomercial" and "a taxpayer-funded media event."
The GOP has telegraphed its strategy in recent days, saying Obama is making a mistake by attempting to forge ahead with his own compromise version of the Senate bill as Democrats say they see the finish line ahead. The Republicans also are approaching it like a debate, setting up a war room and rapid response center within the Republican National Committee.
The Democrats are eager to wrap up health care and are closely coordinating with the White House on the summit agenda. A Senate leadership aide told TPMDC the Democrats' strategy is to "leave much of the heavy lifting to the president" because he has proven to be "very skilled" in similar situations.
"[W]e're confident that we have a strong hand to play and we're going to strike a tone of compromise and willingness to sit down and listen and negotiate while pressing forward to get health care done as quickly as possible," the aide said.
TPMDC obtained the Democratic talking points for tomorrow's summit. The talking points praise health care reform, saying that it:
* Makes insurance more affordable
* Makes the health insurance market competitive
* Makes insurance companies accountable
* Reduces the deficit
* Will end insurance company abuses
That's closely in line with the draft agenda the White House is floating in advance of the summit.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today she wants to focus on the substance of the final health care compromise, rather than procedure about how the Democrats can pass a bill once they agree.
"Well why don't we just settle on the substance first and we take these one at a time," Pelosi told reporters today. "I'm not into procedure right now, I'm in to substance."
The Democrats are aiming for poise tomorrow - their selected attendees aren't flame-throwers and several have suggested they are there to listen.
Pelosi will be the Democrats' opening speaker in the seven-minute slot, Republicans haven't yet announced their representative.
Sen. Chris Dodd will have a seat at the table tomorrow and stressed in an interview he will be flexible. "[A]s a principal negotiator, for me coming out for locking in the hard block positions on things, probably not the right place for me to be," Dodd told TPMDC today.
The Senate leadership aide said that members of the White House health care team huddled with Senate Democratic staffers Monday, the Democrats attending met today and there have been a series of conference calls with White House officials to coordinate messaging.
We asked Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) what he thinks the best possible outcome of the summit is.
"I think the fact that the public will know that again Barack Obama reached out, again the Democrats tried, again the Republicans slammed the door and said no," Brown said, adding that he thinks that's something members need to be reminded of from time to time.
For his part, Obama aides say he genuinely wants to hear Republican ideas, but his team has been asking for the GOP to describe in detail their plan.
House and Senate Republicans are working together to coordinate their position and will detail for Obama why they think the GOP plan is the better solution.
"Our message is that we need to listen to the American people," Minority Leader John Boehner's spokesman Michael Steel told TPMDC. House Republican staffers are going to "truth squad" from Capitol Hill while leadership sits with Obama.
Steel said the Republicans will ask questions and "take the opportunity both to highlight the problems with the Democrats' trillion-dollar government takeover and talk about our solutions."
The Republicans have been mocking the event from the beginning, with the Republican Study Committee sending reporters an email with photos of various White House summits, including the summer beer summit. "Put on your listening caps and get your flashbulbs ready," the committee said.
"We will offer real-time fact-checking of the claims made by President Obama and Congressional Democrats regarding health care reform, and will promote ideas from both House and Senate Republican leaders to lower costs, improve quality and increase access," the RNC told supporters.
Boehner called it an "infomercial" today on Fox News, and said Democrats have been "scheming and plotting for weeks trying to find a way to shove this bill down the throats of the American people."
Minority Whip Eric Cantor issued a memo earlier today suggesting the summit is pointless because Pelosi doesn't have the votes to pass a compromise bill in her chamber.
"We are now told that the latest iteration of a government take-over of health care, presented by President Obama, will largely mirror the Senate bill and congressional Democrats will invoke reconciliation to ram it through Congress," said Cantor (R-VA).
"Yet Americans have overwhelming and repeatedly asked Democrats to shelve their take-over and start again. We believe that fact will continue to weigh heavy on House Democrats, and as a result, Speaker Pelosi will not be able to muster the votes needed to pass a Senate reconciliation bill in the House."
The Republicans last spring were given some health care strategy advice from pollster Frank Luntz that seems to have framed their approach to the summit. Luntz said they should acknowledge the health care system is broken and needs reform, offer a broad, non-specific plan that can't be picked apart and then portray the Democratic plan as a government takeover as frequently as possible.
For a reminder, the Luntz memo is here.
The GOP also is attempting to exploit Democratic divisions over abortion provisions and the public option - with Boehner asking Obama to invite a pro-choice Democrat to the summit and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell reminding everyone the only thing bipartisan about health care is opposition to the bill.
A House Democratic aide told TPMDC the strategy proves the GOP is "hyperpartisan," comparing it to a similar event when Obama spoke to the House Republican caucus last month.
Obama didn't have a truth squad to fact-check or any preconditions in taking Republican questions in an unfriendly room of 170 lawmakers, the aide said.
sbv
February 24, 2010 5:55 PM
poor nancy; the only one in the congress or senate who has actually attempted to do the people's business; the things this president was elected on; standing between boehner who is a complete lying fool and barack who she isn't sure where he's coming and hasn't given her any support. what the congress has accomplished, they have done on their own.
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toddincabo
February 25, 2010 1:14 AM in reply to sbv
I agree on all points
Nancy has done her job and has done it well, that's why she is hated so much by the Rethugs.
The Senate bought and paid for scum are the problem.
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mans_best_friend
February 24, 2010 6:00 PM
The Democratic strategy is simple. Poll after poll shows Americans are opposed to "the bill" while overwhelmingly approving of the individual parts. So hammer away at the specific parts of the bill and dare the Republicans to disagree with them. Highlight how the Republican "plan" does not address these issues.
Our bill bans denial for pre-existing conditions. Do you agree with that? Yes? Then why doesn't your "plan" include that?
Our bill extends coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans. Do you agree with that? Yes? Then why doesn't your "plan" do that?
And on and on. If the Dems had any idea how to frame issues this would be a turkey shoot. Alas, they don't. Obama does, but it's just not in his nature to pull the trigger.
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Tanjaoui
February 24, 2010 7:18 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
Right on Obama. He seems constitutionally unable to confront entrenched interests. Mr. 'on the one hand...on the other hand'. Not what you need in this situation, with health care consuming 16% of our GDP and growing and 10% unemployment for the foreseeable future.
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Cal Gal
February 24, 2010 10:08 PM in reply to Tanjaoui
We shall see tomorrow. He did pretty good at that Congressional Republican Eat-Their-Lunch Fest. Maybe tomorrow he'll drink their milkshakes just to complete the meal.
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loudprogressive
February 24, 2010 10:55 PM in reply to Cal Gal
WOW Obama bests the rethugs at PR. Tell the clouds. The only thing voters are interested in is results, and on healthcare he's more interested in delivering unimpeded profits for the phRMA lobby and the insurance monopolies.
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Tanjaoui
February 25, 2010 12:55 AM in reply to Cal Gal
'There was this devastating satirical piece on that on the Op-Ed page of the Times'
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benintn
February 24, 2010 8:48 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
take it step by step and break it down
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loudprogressive
February 24, 2010 11:38 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
Stop hawking this corporate bailout bill. Without a robust public option IT IS NOT REFORM. It is just another huge transfer of wealth to another industry thats invested heavily in buying influence, and Rahm and team has sold out everything but the drapes.
"Our bill bans denial for pre-existing conditions."
Who are you referring to when you say "our bill" because this bill was written by and for the insurance and pharma cartels. Thanks to the Dems newest "compromise" insurance companies can continue to deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, as long as they're over 19.
"Our bill extends coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans"
And what do those 30 million have to look forward to? Discriminatory sky-high insurance rates. This bill allows them to charge older Americans up to 3x's as much as younger people - effectively pricing them out of mandated insurance - but they get to pay thousands in fines. I wonder who those old folks will vote for next time around? It also allows the them to charge people over 50% more for "certain" pre-existing conditions (assuming they don't outright deny you).
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/17/the-unholy-trilogy-for-insurance-profits-individual-mandate-broad-age-rating-and-hardship-exemption/
Unless tomorrow's summit about the public option or something equally or more effective at controlling costs & increasing competition then there's no point. This bill effectively legislates indentured servitude - voting out the corporatists who are pushing it is least we could do.
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loudprogressive
February 24, 2010 11:42 PM in reply to loudprogressive
Here's the link on the Dems dropping the ban on pre-existing conditions denials:
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/democrats-dropping-ban-preexisting-conditions/
No true pre-existing conditions ban. No public option. No reform.
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philogratis
February 25, 2010 1:21 AM in reply to loudprogressive
A couple things wrong here. The Senate bill bans discrimination for pre-existing conditions for 19 year olds and younger effective immediately, while for everybody else the ban doesn't kick in until 2014, along with exchanges, the mandate, and subsidies.
Then there's a link to a New York Times article describing a stripped down bill discussed last month by small numbers of House Dems without the support of Pelosi, Reid, or the president. Bernie Sanders has a single payer bill in his desk drawer too, but it is not under consideration at this time.
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philogratis
February 25, 2010 1:30 AM in reply to philogratis
PS. The reason why this particular conspiracy makes no sense is that it would require another 60 vote supermajority to strip the pre-existing conditions ban out of the Senate bill. Congress would have to start from a blank piece of paper, and that is not what the president, the House and the Senate are doing right now.
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loudprogressive
February 25, 2010 2:23 AM in reply to philogratis
Not what MSNBC or New York Times said, according to them the ban only applies to 19 and under. But keep up the spin.
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toddincabo
February 25, 2010 1:18 AM in reply to mans_best_friend
I guess you missed him scolding the Rethugs on their own turf a few weeks back.
You have no idea what you are saying.
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Maritza
February 24, 2010 6:03 PM
The CBO will be there which will be the official truth squad.
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dswx
February 24, 2010 6:06 PM
I wonder how Eric Cantor can look at his family or himself in a mirror everyday with his constant, blatant lies (e.g. "government take-over of health care"). He apparently believes that lies are acceptable. Speaks volumes about his (and numerous other Republicans) lack of moral basis. Seriously.
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mcc
February 24, 2010 6:08 PM in reply to dswx
Is Eric Cantor visible in mirrors?
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mans_best_friend
February 24, 2010 6:20 PM in reply to mcc
LOL Thanks for the chuckle!
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Brownbagger
February 24, 2010 6:58 PM in reply to mcc
Yes, but he sees a turd with glasses.
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EastWest
February 24, 2010 9:02 PM in reply to mcc
LOL!
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barbara63
February 24, 2010 6:57 PM
Over 1,000,000 people called their Senators and Representatives in support of HCR today.
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lousgirl84
February 24, 2010 6:59 PM in reply to barbara63
Good and I was one of them
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barbara63
February 24, 2010 7:08 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Way to go, lousgirl84! I wish TPM would cover this effort. One million calls in support of HCR in one day is quite a success.
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EastWest
February 24, 2010 9:05 PM in reply to lousgirl84
I called Webb and Warner this evening. Waste of time, barring magic or balls or something.
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inniss326
February 24, 2010 7:32 PM
Since the GOP's pre meeting condition (clean slate) was not met, I predict they walk out and discuss nothing.
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jim43
February 24, 2010 8:34 PM
This summit is bound to fail because Republican will not cooperate with any bill that has Obama's name on it. They don't want to give the president and Democrats a victory in an election year on their signature issue.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
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Cal Gal
February 24, 2010 10:12 PM in reply to jim43
That doesn't necessarily make it a "fail."
The main thing the Dems need to do is REframe the debate to make it clear the ReThuglicans are obstructionists who really do NOT want to make health care -- insurance AND care -- affordable for the average American.
If the summit can go even a little way toward that, it WILL be a success.
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loudprogressive
February 24, 2010 11:45 PM in reply to Cal Gal
This bill allows insurance companies to charge older Americans 3xs as much as younger Americans, it no real cost controls. and does ziltch to introduce competition....how is that affordable healthcare for all? Read and weep:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/17/the-unholy-trilogy-for-insurance-profits-individual-mandate-broad-age-rating-and-hardship-exemption/
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philogratis
February 25, 2010 1:33 AM in reply to loudprogressive
How much do you think insurance companies charge old people now? It's about 10:1.
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loudprogressive
February 25, 2010 4:39 AM in reply to philogratis
More unreferenced hyperbole, and your elitist "so what" defense is a perfect description of the Dems (and Rahm in particular) overall apparent concern for those who will be seriously impacted by this insurance bailout bill..."so what" or as Rahm would put it, "f#ck 'em".
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fpie
February 25, 2010 5:13 AM in reply to Cal Gal
The main thing Democrats need to do is pass the damn bill. Any way they can. When it's done nobody will remember or care how it got done. Truth is if it gives the Democrats an image of being coniving cut throats that will be good. They could use a little street cred.
If this summit lets the Republicans get their fingers in the bill any deeper than they already are then it is a mistake. Hopefully Bonner is correct and it is just a well designed ploy to drag the truth out into the light. Oh that Democrats could be so sneaky and manipulative. Hope springs eternal.
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EastWest
February 24, 2010 9:20 PM
This from Josh:
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Cal Gal
February 24, 2010 10:14 PM in reply to EastWest
Ok. I give up. Finally. It's dead.
For now.
Let's say it's in a coma.
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philogratis
February 25, 2010 1:25 AM in reply to Cal Gal
If we can pass HR could hold the House and the Senate and the Presidency in 2012, they could pass the PO and we wouldn't be missing a thing (cause the PO doesn't go into effect for years). If we lose now, it's over.
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loudprogressive
February 25, 2010 2:30 AM in reply to philogratis
They aren't going pass the public option in the future if its not passed now to cut the B.S. Even with this bill - especially with this bill - there is no way the Dems will keep the House and the Senate. Obama's weakness on regulating the out-of-control financial industry, and essentially handing over the American public to the insurance cartel also doesn't make 2012 look too bright either. He'll definitely have the support of DLC hacks like you but progressives and active,, informed voters (the people who actually got him elected) aren't going to show up for someone that hasn't shown up for them. At this point it would be better if he didn't seek a second term.
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bill
February 24, 2010 11:27 PM
If Boehner's message is to listen to the American people, he's way ahead of the White House and the Senate Democrats.
Here's where we started and where most of us still are:
“A mere seven months ago (that would be around June 2009), The New York Times/CBS poll found that 72% of Americans ‘supported a government-administered insurance plan—something like Medicare for those under 65—that would compete for customers with private insurers.’”
From then until now, Obama has rejected single payer; stiff-armed the government option; mandated premium payments to private sector insurers; assured tax payers subsidies for private sector insurers; stipulated that private sector health insurers have to spend only 80 cents of every 100 cents on actual health care services, while spending 20 cents of every 100 cents on lobbying, 'sympathetic' candidates, CEO bonuses, 'administration' and fighting your claim for treatment.
Those 'reforms', which Obama and Senate Democrats have 'crafted', are pure and simple corporate subsidies in the Republican, not the Democratic, tradition.
Listen to the American people, please, and pass single payer.
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Rockridge
February 25, 2010 1:39 AM
Poll says 25 percent like Senate/House bills. Poll says people don't like a mandate. Suppose the mandate is dropped. Can any kind of effective HCR be done, aside from going single payer?
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Tanjaoui
February 25, 2010 4:42 AM in reply to Rockridge
Something called 'all payer' as in Germany. Insureds choose a company, but the money is paid to and distributed to companies by the gov't. based on risk adjustment factors. I believe there is a standard plan that every insurer must offer, and that they don't make a profit from the standard plan, only off higher-end products.
Medicare expansion.
VA Health Care expansion.
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Sailormarlowe
February 25, 2010 5:46 AM
Everyone should read Gov. Sarah Palin's Facebook post about the Obama "health-care" power grab. She offers a lucid, cogent, persuasive case against a sinister attempt by the Obama gang to impose a dictatorship of the proletariat, while enriching their fat-cat cronies in Big Insurance.
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Tanjaoui
February 25, 2010 7:50 AM
As a single payer or 'all payer' advocate, I deem the appearance of change much more insidious than the absence of change. This bill gives the appearance of change, opening up coverage to millions that don't have it, but with policies that will extract monthly premiums from them and leave them unable to actually use the insurance. The Democrats will be able to claim a victory, but will have done nothing to ensure effective health care delivery for many if not most of the newly insured. I live in MA; I know how this works. If they're going to use reconciliation and expend a lot of political capital on this, they should do it right by expanding Medicare gradually, to cover the whole population. But Obama and his crew seem unwilling to expend political capital. And unless they use it, they'll gradually, inevitably lose it with legislation that people will slowly discover doesn't work for them.
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