
After a weather related delay Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is just about ready to go with his jobs package. But with another storm threatening to shut down Congress yet again tomorrow, a week-long recess set to kick off this weekend, and no promise from the GOP not to filibuster the bill, Reid is threatening to keep the Senate in session through the weekend to get the bill finished.
"The issue before the Senate and the decision I have to make after speaking to the Republican leader is what we do when we come back here on Thursday," Reid said on the floor this afternoon.
We'll have an intervening day. I would rather not be in session tomorrow if, in fact, we have to file cloture on that package that I just talked about. I have told everyone that what I think would be the appropriate way to do is to get on that bill and to have some amendments on both sides, and I hope we can do that. We really need to finish the bill this week. I would hope that we can do that in a reasonable time. It appears from what I have been able to determine is that the storm will end sometime early tomorrow evening. The problem is the streets in the D.C. area are pretty difficult so we would have to make sure that everyone has time Thursday to get here. There are some people who live in the suburbs when they are in Washington, and so we have to make sure that they have time to get here. Anyway, we're working on these issues. And then we have the President's Day recess. I hope we don't have to work into the weekend to complete that. It's really difficult to put all this stuff over.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says he can't commit until his caucus has been briefed on what's in the bill.
"The dilemma we currently have on the proposal that the Majority Leader is referring to is that I believe it is the case that not all members of the finance committee are yet fully aware of what the package may look like, and we also don't have an entire conference that understands it yet, and if were talking about a roughly $80 billion package, no matter how it may be labeled, whether it's another stimulus, whether it's the jobs bill, whether it's a combination of both, I would say to my friend that we need to be able to feel -- my members need to be able to feel like they understand what they are being called upon to support," McConnell said.
Reid says he expects all members will see the bill soon, and will have a chance to offer amendments. But if the Republicans create procedural deadlock, they might be here through the weekend. "I was told an hour ago that the document is completed," Reid said. "I hope that's the case. I do say to everyone in the Senate at this time that we want to work through this in an orderly way, and I want to make sure that both the Republican conference and the Democratic conference have a chance to see the bill."
Progressive Party
February 9, 2010 4:04 PM
How can any member of Congress have regret to work or vote on a jobs bill or HCR legislation when the middle class is so hurting...why not take the stand to be FIGHTING for progressive legislation that will impact on the ones who are hurting the most! Don't these fuckers ever get it?
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DP1
February 9, 2010 4:18 PM in reply to Progressive Party
Nope! And have you noticed how mcconnell looks like a toothless old shark?
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hunter
February 9, 2010 4:55 PM in reply to Progressive Party
Wow. Anybody else see the AP writeup of this? Unbelievable. Here's the lede:
Senate Democrats circulated a jobs bill Tuesday that's light on new initiatives on boosting hiring and heavy with provisions sought by lobbyists for doctors and the satellite broadcasting industry.
The policy "sought by lobbyists for doctors" is the same old extension of Medicare that passes every year or sometimes twice a year. The disaster that would happen if it didn't pass gets bigger every time too...this time failure to pass this measure would suddenly decrease Medicare payments by 21%.
The article doesn't even mention the satellite broadcaster thing outside of this paragraph, so I can only guess what it might be.
But as for the job-creating part, the article mentions:
$10B for the employer payroll-tax exemption for new hires
$25B for state relief (at a time when states are laying off like crazy)
$33B in tax breaks, mostly for business and including an R&D writeoff
So, that's $68B out of a total $80B package going to things that are pretty obvious job-drivers. Oh, and apparently there's some prospect of adding $20B for highway/bridge projects. And just to reiterate, I got all this information from this same AP article.
Just a shockingly irresponsible lede. Where's that liberal media when we really need it?
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cawleybo
February 9, 2010 8:07 PM in reply to hunter
$80 Billion?
Are you kidding me?
Why bother? Did they learn nothing from passing a way too small stimulus the first time? If they passed an $80 MILLION bill the republicans and media would still scream about the deficit. So do what needs to be done! There will be a lot less disatisfaction if people are working.
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AhTrini1
February 9, 2010 6:14 PM in reply to Progressive Party
Nope
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Overreach THIS!
February 10, 2010 7:32 AM in reply to Progressive Party
It depends what fuckers you mean. If you mean that Republicans and Dems are equally at fault (and I don't know your meaning), then you're not helping.
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chimpale
February 9, 2010 4:08 PM
It won't happen. Sorry, Harry, but even if you really do end up making them work this weekend, they're going to call your bluff every time. Nobody--especially not a single member of the Republican party--thinks that you'll go through with it. You back down so often that they know the odds against you doing anything to inconvenience them in the slightest are excellent.
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willia451
February 9, 2010 4:15 PM
The Senate is dysfunctional. It is like a parasite, sucking all the oxygen and energy out of our republic.
Do we HAVE to have their input? If the President and House agree, isn't that two against one?
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agio
February 9, 2010 4:29 PM in reply to willia451
The only majorities that count nowadays are the 41-59 majority the Republicans have in the Senate, and the 5-4 majority they have on the Supreme Court. The rest is just noise.
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concerned parent
February 9, 2010 4:16 PM
Just wait until the gop start whining and then reid will relent. Reid should just own up to the mess he has made of the senate and quit now. But he does not have that kind of courage, and so I will celebrate his lose in november.
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agio
February 9, 2010 4:25 PM
This is a joke of a jobs bill, anyhow.
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goldiera
February 10, 2010 2:21 AM in reply to agio
How do we know? Reid is keeping the bill under wraps. It won't be good, I am sure of that, and all it will do is give tax breaks to corporations.....things have stayed the same, nothing has changed.
Maybe it is a joke, but I fear it is one on us.
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Maritza
February 9, 2010 4:35 PM
I say let them filibuster. Watching Republicans actually filibuster a jobs bill is just what the Democrats need.
It will show the Republicans as ultimate obstructionists when the unemployment rate is 9.7%.
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mans_best_friend
February 9, 2010 4:49 PM
File the cloture motion immediately. They'll have 24 hrs. It's not as if they're actually going to read the bill anyway.
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Max Thrax
February 9, 2010 5:26 PM
Wow, I can't believe there's not going to be a jobs bill. Harry Reid drawing a line in the sand is like a General Manager expressing his total confidence in his losing coach. As far as the AP article...what did you expect? Are you still surprised that Rassmussen's polls lean Republican?
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AlphaLiberal
February 9, 2010 5:36 PM
Just a thought but why doesn't the left organize protests against Republicans filibustering these bills? And I mean go to their town hall meetings and stand up and shout at them to stop being obstructionists, stop playing politics with the jobs bill, etc, etc.
Granted, Fox wouldn't give it wall to wall coverage, but it may be helpful to start.
I don't have any Republican Senators, myself...
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Capers
February 9, 2010 5:37 PM
Get it Dumb: Reid Threatens Filibuster is Republicans Filibuster Jobs Bill
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ottis
February 9, 2010 5:44 PM
McConnell said his members need to understand what they are being called on to support. I am pretty sure they don't have what it takes to understand anything. I haven't seen them support anything since the last presidents election. Just write them off and proceed.
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benintn
February 9, 2010 5:52 PM
Harry Reid with his all-in "Dirty Harry" moment. Go ahead. Make my day. Filibuster the jobs bill, you sorry mofos...
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lousgirl84
February 9, 2010 6:10 PM
From Nate Silver's five-thrity-eight.com
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/02/republicans-not-obama-more-often-on.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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AhTrini1
February 9, 2010 6:13 PM
Is Reid growing a spine?!?!?!?!?!?
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Max Thrax
February 9, 2010 6:53 PM in reply to AhTrini1
Is JaMarcus Russell getting the hang of that quarterback thing?
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cawleybo
February 9, 2010 8:10 PM in reply to Max Thrax
ROFL!
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goldiera
February 10, 2010 2:19 AM in reply to AhTrini1
No, he is a complete old maid in men's pants...he is a total whore who does what he is told by corporate powers. Spine? These bastards could care less about the fate of the American people....thanks to the supreme court ruling in Jan, they only have to worry about their corporate masters now. Our voices have been completely eliminated.
What gets done? Nothing. Anything to reverse the supreme court ruling? No, just more BS.
Impotent, gutless, spineless old whores.
Reid is the worst of the bunch, he makes me sicker than the republicans.
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mcc
February 9, 2010 8:24 PM
Thank goodness.
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jim43
February 9, 2010 8:44 PM
I find it highly doubtful that Republicans would make the effort to filibuster and give themselves a weekend of "work" when they don't have to. They just can't wait to skip town and go back to their Tea Party zombies.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
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CranialRectalLoopback
February 9, 2010 9:13 PM
Oh, Harriet, you're so cute when you're "angry".
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KevinCT
February 9, 2010 11:15 PM
This is a very minor spending measure. Regardless of GOP grandstanding if the Dems cannot covince 10 or more Repubs to promptly support the measure without much horsetrading then they obviously are ineffectual and should be voted out anyway. It is nice to have a majority but if it is not going to get anything done then the Dems as a party may be better off by being in the minority in the legislative branch and allow Obama do the heavy lifting since despite his uneven first 14 or so months he is still much more preferred by average Americans than Reid or Pelosi.
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Overreach THIS!
February 10, 2010 7:26 AM in reply to KevinCT
That's pretty incoherent, to my way of thinking. Republicans are completely immune from Dem. pressure because there strategy is to cooperate with nothing ever, then blame failure on Obama, then take back both Houses. That has been there strategy for over 1 year now. You are saying you wish to let them win at their strategy, have them make the Dems into patsies while back both Houses, and then **what exactly?!**
This is the kind of thing that got fucking Scott Brown elected.
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willia451
February 10, 2010 8:43 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
If that is what is happening (and I agree), then it is incumbent upon the majority to lead and bypass the obstruction; regardless.
The only leverage a majority has over a miniority in the Senate is the assurance that endless obstruction will be met by majority passage of legislation through point of order with a simple majority up or down vote (the nuclear option).
If the Dems do not have the strength of vision to do that, or the support for it within their own caucus, then it is inevitable that they will be thrown out of office. Just like the Republicans were.
It won't be because Americans support the Republican agenda per se. It will be because Democrats have proven their inability to lead and govern from a position of strength; as they were elected to do.
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Overreach THIS!
February 10, 2010 10:52 AM in reply to willia451
Fine, and I agree, so the take away (to me) is to encourage Democrats to be strong and win, as you describe. And not, for example, to accept bad government and say, "Yessireesir, we sure had it coming!"
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KevinCT
February 10, 2010 10:51 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
All I am trying to say is that if the Democrats who were given a majority cannot use that majority and whatever powers of persuasion they (hopefully) have to get some of the "moderate" GOP members to vote for their bills then what is the point of the majority? To simply block the GOP? You can do that by being in the minority and not having to take heat for "failing to do anything" which is exactly what the GOP is doing. Ramming the legislation down the throats of the GOP or getting rid of the procedural 60 vote requirement to bypass filibuster is not exactly working in case the HCR fiasco went unnoticed. I'd just like to see some leadership in getting the bills we elected these folks to bring about get passedf into law. If, as we suspect, the real problem is the GOP leadership then the Democrats and those that spport them need to target those leaders to be defeated at the polls in order to remove the obstacle. That is the truest form of political expression in my view. So come up with strategies to replace Boehner, Cantor, McConnell and the rest and MOVE AHEAD!
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goldiera
February 10, 2010 2:26 AM
It is all political theatre. Nothing real is done in public, just posturing and BS. All the real politics are done behind locked doors with special interest representatives present writing the legislation for the whore congress people who work for them.
It is all sound and fury signifying nothing. Health care, jobs, the supreme court's removal of our voting rights in the name of free speech....nothing is done for the American people, only the evil corporations.
Abe Lincoln rightfully hated and feared corporations, he saw them as an evil that could destroy everything. They have become part and parcel of one of his predictions: He did not fear invasions and destruction of our nation from foreign powers so much as from the "vandals within."
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Overreach THIS!
February 10, 2010 7:28 AM
It depends what fuckers you mean. If you mean that Republicans and Dems are equally at fault (and I don't know your meaning), then you're not helping.
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Rich in NJ
February 10, 2010 10:38 AM
They should have done the same with HCR rather than cave to the DINOs.
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