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Health Care Spat As GOP Tells Gibbs He's Dueling With Straw Man

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Will Republicans attend the health care summit at the White House next week?

They've voiced their loud complaints, and the White House has fired back, saying the GOP is hypocritical since the Republicans called for the televised meeting to begin with.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said today the Republicans haven't yet accepted the invitation that President Obama's staffers sent on Friday.

We can't get a straight answer out of Republicans, but not for lack of trying.

Minority Leader John Boehner's spokesman Michael Steel told TPMDC today that the GOP has posted their health care plan here and that it lowers premiums for families and small businesses by up to 10 percent.

Steel adds:




Republicans have been listening to the American people, who want health care reforms that lower costs, not Washington Democrats' job-killing government takeover. ... Mr. Gibbs is dueling with a straw man that his own boss, the President of the United States, demolished quite thoroughly when he visited the House GOP Retreat in Baltimore and acknowledged he has read what we think are our better ideas for reforming health care.

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February 16, 2010 6:09 PM   

Hey, Boner. If you've got such great ideas, what are you afraid of? Accept the invitation and wow us all with your wonderful plan.

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February 16, 2010 6:12 PM   

So to be clear, are they saying that the health care reform bill posted there is the proposal that the GOP will be coming to the summit with next week?

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February 16, 2010 6:31 PM   

* Number one: let families and businesses buy health insurance across state lines. * Number two: allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do. * Number three: give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs. * Number four: end junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.

In a nutshell, that's their plan. Can't tell how exactly they come up with that 10% savings figure. Fuzzy math perhaps.

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February 16, 2010 6:32 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

and it says nothing about insuring the tens of millions with zero coverage, or protecting those with insurance from getting dropped

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February 16, 2010 6:50 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

From my very quick reading --

They come up with 10% savings by simply saying "Yo, states -- you need to create these high risk pools and do it in a way that cuts costs by 10%."

It's a neat little trick.

Watch me double literacy rates:

Section 1. Short title and purpose
(a)AN ACT to provide universal literacy

Section 2.
Each state shall double it's literacy rate within 10 years.

See?

Easy.

Want me to end crime, too?


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February 16, 2010 6:57 PM    in reply to zonk

Wait a minute, that's just the text of No Child Left Behind!

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February 17, 2010 10:29 AM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

This reminds me of that cartoon with two mathmeticians staring at a blackboard - the left and right sides are both covered in complicated equations - in the middle, it just says '... then a miracle occurs...'. The one scientist is saying to the other "I think you need to be more explicit in step 2..."

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February 16, 2010 6:45 PM   

Sooo... I just very quickly scanned through the GOP's proposed bill text.

I would like someone from the GOP to explain to me why they were so opposed to the public option "state opt-in/opt-out" idea because that seems to be more or less what they're proposing... a bunch of state run "high risk pools".

Of course, they seem to pull 25 billion in funding out of thin air, and I haven't yet gotten to the details about how they plan to deal with eligibility... not to mention, they're in love with HSAs. I have no problem with HSAs per se - but anyone that thinks an HSA will ever be more than a trinket is fooling themselves. Most catastrophic/chronic diseases - cancers, heart disease, strokes, etc - have single treatment price tags in excess of 5 to 6 figures.

A few things strike me...

#1 - The GOP bill is actually an amendment to the existing bill... and it's about 1/10 the size... so, while I haven't gotten through what they're amending, it seems to me that somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% of the existing bill is OK with the GOP... so tell me again why GOP allies are calling it nazi-care? Could Mr. Boehner kindly talk to his nutty fringe and explain that the Democratic bill is apparently 90% OK?

#2 - While the GOP also calls for ends to rescission and 'reasonable premiums' -- it looks to me like they've outsourced it all to state-based testing and formulas. I'm not finding anything regarding individual means testing. A lot of this sure sounds like passing the buck to states, to me.

#3 - I'm not seeing any of the Medicare fixes... presumably, the GOP is accepting those Dem-authored provisions as is? How about the GOP give the Democrats a little credit for that?

Again... this just based off a very quick read of the TOC and a few of the more interested/eye-catching provisions --

But this looks awfully NCLB-esque to me... a Lot of state mandates, with plenty of punishment/rewards, but not much in the way of federal leadership (and I don't see where they get the money from, either).

There might be a few areas that could be cherrypicked -- maybe some of the HSA provisions, perhaps pieces from the tort reform section -- into an acceptable bill, but all in all, the GOP response seems to be decidedly milquetoast as an 'alternative'. It's a couple of shiny toys (HSAs, tort reform) that don't really do much good for consumers (but if done properly, wouldn't hurt, either), a whole lot of outsourcing of details to states, and a whole lot of sturm und drung for no real reason.

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February 16, 2010 6:48 PM   

The CBO says that it doesn't do that.

Glad to learn that the CBO will be at this event.

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February 16, 2010 6:49 PM   

Looking forward to February 25th when Obama counteracts the GOP's bullshit line that HCR is a "job killing government takeover".

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February 17, 2010 7:35 AM   

Sorry guys, but you can't blame HCR failure on Republicans. One party rule is just that, rule by one party. Your party.
Keep up the good work.

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